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: September 12, 2013, 01:42:46 PM

http://potg2.blogspot.com/

Nice breakdown by Steve White on the line play on defense.  In particular, we've all talked about stunts.  He has photos of a stunt that I swear to god I've never seen before - GMC crossing 3 gaps to become an outside rusher. He is not doing a simple DE/DT or DT/DT stunt but instead 93 is stunting over BOTH the NT and RDE before being able to turn upfield.  I mean there is just no way that can work even if no one blocks him that is too far to run.

He also quantifies how much we stunt -- go figure it is a lot.

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#1 : September 12, 2013, 01:45:24 PM

Yep, he has pointed out silliness like that before. I have seen people on here make sarcastic comments about the complaints about the stunts, saying all teams stunt, but not all stunts are created equal.

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#2 : September 12, 2013, 01:48:33 PM

Yep, he has pointed out silliness like that before. I have seen people on here make sarcastic comments about the complaints about the stunts, saying all teams stunt, but not all stunts are created equal.

The Tex stunt ( named because it is your basic tackle end stunt) yeah everyone runs that, same with the tackle stunts.  The jaw dropping stupid of the first stunt he outlines is hard to describe though.

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#3 : September 12, 2013, 01:49:25 PM

AND this goes right back into the face of GMC saying something to the effect of just letting them pin their ears back...   without all the unnecessary stunting.


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#4 : September 12, 2013, 01:52:03 PM

Some picture perfect pass protection. The Jets must have a great offensive line or something.


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#5 : September 12, 2013, 01:57:57 PM

Yep, he has pointed out silliness like that before. I have seen people on here make sarcastic comments about the complaints about the stunts, saying all teams stunt, but not all stunts are created equal.

To be fair, I've really only seen one simpleton trot that out here repeatedly.

I hate overuse of the stunts, but I will at least give the defensive gameplan credit for the blitzes they ran.  They were able to bring pressure from the LB's and Secondary.


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#6 : September 12, 2013, 01:58:39 PM

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So to recap. The coaches did a bad job on both sides of the ball. Players also didn't hold up their end, moreso on offense than defense but still. And basically now everything is a total **** show because two grown men can't seem to act like grown men to coexist and try to win some games.
Yup.  I think that just about sums things up.

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#7 : September 12, 2013, 03:11:42 PM

http://potg2.blogspot.com/

Nice breakdown by Steve White on the line play on defense.  In particular, we've all talked about stunts.  He has photos of a stunt that I swear to god I've never seen before - GMC crossing 3 gaps to become an outside rusher. He is not doing a simple DE/DT or DT/DT stunt but instead 93 is stunting over BOTH the NT and RDE before being able to turn upfield.  I mean there is just no way that can work even if no one blocks him that is too far to run.

He also quantifies how much we stunt -- go figure it is a lot.

Guys, this has been covered.

We stunt a lot, yes. It's because stunts screw up blocking assignments on run plays for certain schemes. This has been acknowledged by our d-coordinator. I don't like 3rd down stunts unless a screen or draw is suspected.

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#8 : September 12, 2013, 04:00:52 PM

http://potg2.blogspot.com/

Nice breakdown by Steve White on the line play on defense.  In particular, we've all talked about stunts.  He has photos of a stunt that I swear to god I've never seen before - GMC crossing 3 gaps to become an outside rusher. He is not doing a simple DE/DT or DT/DT stunt but instead 93 is stunting over BOTH the NT and RDE before being able to turn upfield.  I mean there is just no way that can work even if no one blocks him that is too far to run.

He also quantifies how much we stunt -- go figure it is a lot.

Guys, this has been covered.

We stunt a lot, yes. It's because stunts screw up blocking assignments on run plays for certain schemes. This has been acknowledged by our d-coordinator. I don't like 3rd down stunts unless a screen or draw is suspected.

So what! Does that make it the right gameplan? Why is our probowl DT covering so much distance before actually rushing the pocket? I don't care how much they stunt the other D-linemen, but Gerald needs to just be allowed to get upfield every snap, because his rush will disrupt both run and pass plays.

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#9 : September 12, 2013, 04:13:29 PM

So when White says it is stupid now it gains attention, good.  Hell, more than a few folks have addressed the GMC going around the formation - and that no one has seen it work - ever. 

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#10 : September 12, 2013, 04:15:53 PM

Which is why they'll never expect it.

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#11 : September 12, 2013, 04:16:19 PM

it hasn't gained more attention Dbuc, it's just a situation where the the fans concern is backed up by  former player using gametape.

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#12 : September 12, 2013, 04:16:46 PM

Why dont they understand this is my question. Are they that stubborn??

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#13 : September 12, 2013, 04:29:13 PM

This defense hasn't worked for numerous reasons, i've seen D-lineman in coverage on passing downs, i've seen LB's covering WR's, and for the life of me I can't figure out why the hell we let running backs come out of the backfield into the flats with not a defensive player in sight! While I think this years D will be better than last years (which isn't saying much) I still see us being exposed and it's not due to lack of talent anymore.

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#14 : September 12, 2013, 04:35:39 PM

 "i've seen D-lineman in coverage on passing downs"

Did you see the same thing when Kiffin did it? The idea is to bring pressure and unexpectedly drop a guy in front of the hot read. Implementation may be lacking, but it is a sound theory.
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