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« : September 26, 2013, 03:02:18 AM »


Greg Schiano May Have Benched His NFL Coaching Career By Sitting Josh Freeman

By Leo Howell - Sep 25th, 2013 at 10:11 am



Aug 29, 2013; Tampa, FL, USA; Tampa Bay Buccaneers head coach Greg Schiano talks with quarterback Mike Glennon (8 against the Washington Redskins during the first half at Raymond James Stadium.
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Greg Schiano said during his Monday press conference that “Josh Freeman is our starter.”
 
Things changed quickly, didn’t they Coach?
 
There is absolutely nothing positive that comes from proclaiming a player a starter, and within 48 hours sending him to the bench. Unless Josh Freeman was arrested or literally quit on his team, there is absolutely no reason to say one thing and do another on such short notice.
 
Greg Schiano always talks about his proven program, and “Trust, Belief, and Accountability.” Yet he betrays his own comments within two days of saying them, and benches Josh Freeman in favor of Mike Glennon despite saying the opposite was true.
 
That’s a bold move for a head coach who won’t survive a losing season. As I wrote last week, former players think that Schaino doesn’t have the respect of the players to continue to run his hard-nosed system while losing eight of his last nine games. There is no way he can keep the locker room while losing most of the games remaining in 2013 while grooming a new quarterback.
 
Not to mention, Schiano is putting his general manager at risk by benching the starting quarterback he drafted to be the face of the franchise, as Mark Dominik also likely finds himself looking for a job if the Buccaneers don’t have a much improved season than the 0-3 start indicates. And if Greg Schiano thinks a new GM is going to keep him in town with a high draft pick and a need for a franchise quarterback, he’s delusional.
 
This is an incredibly bold move for Greg Schiano, and one that I just cannot see paying off in the long run. But he obviously believes that the quarterback he’s coveted since he was in high school is the answer to his offense’s problems.
 

Will Brinson        ✔ @WillBrinson

Said it a million times but remember: at Rutgers Greg Schiano recruited Mike Glennon heavily out of high school.
6:09 AM - 25 Sep 2013


He must hope that the star he saw in high school is the change his team needs to save his job. Otherwise, he’ll find himself back in college, where he can recruit whatever quarterback he wants.




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« #1 : September 26, 2013, 04:05:34 AM »

Too early to tell.  If Glennon fails miserably, and Freeman goes somewhere and balls big time, its not going to reflect well on either one of then.  Sullivan also.


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« #2 : September 26, 2013, 05:42:36 AM »

Listening to ESPN, Schiano is getting raked across the coals about his declaring Freeman the started over and over then going with Glennon.  Trying to make him look lke some sort of liar. it's a game of gotcha by the bloggers. **CENSORED** happens and the coach/GM changed their minds - big deal.   It's not like they're benching a HoF - Freeman got more than his chance to establish himself as an NFL QB and it didn't happen.  Time to move on.

Good luck to Glennon.

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« #3 : September 26, 2013, 05:54:30 AM »

How does one have such strong conviction about a topic on Monday and then do a 180 within twenty-four hours? It's a shame that S simply couldn't delete that "post"...

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« #4 : September 26, 2013, 06:20:26 AM »

Schiano can't lead a bunch of men. He uses thug tactics so he could only lead a thug.

He lost all credibility with the bush league tactics. Players won't follow that. Nobody is buying into him as a leader AND his schemes suck.

Then I look at his college career and see that it was all smoke and mirrors. Great record vs. Some of the worst programs in football and dire record in his own mediocre conference. His non conference games were a joke. Kyle Flood took over and gave the QB a vote of confidence and they won a share of the title something that Schiano could not do in a decade. He could not stand behind his QB and he could not win the conference. Those two things go together. Sound familiar? Where is this proven system that he is talking about? ???

He recruited Florida and had a lot of talent. But they could never contend for anything. Never got a major bowl invite. Had one good year out of 10. Why would anyone say that he was some great college coach?  He wasn't. He is an underachiever and that doesn't cut it for two seconds in the NFL.

Take your dinosaur thug bum back to whatever cave you came from Schiano.

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6\' 4\" 190 6\' 3\" 180 6\' 2\" 170 6\' 1\" 160  6\' 0\" 150 How does he compare to your favorite QB?

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« #5 : September 26, 2013, 06:22:04 AM »

How does one have such strong conviction about a topic on Monday and then do a 180 within twenty-four hours? It's a shame that S simply couldn't delete that "post"...

anyone that listened to Coach Schiano, he's never had a strong conviction about Freeman. He's always been "meh" about him. It was very obvious is his lack of support for Freeman - and one of the complaints from Freeman's "camp". Coaches/GM's perogative to select the players that start. Pretty simple.  Did you expect him to bad mouth #5 over the last several weeks? No. He was obviously unhappy with Freeman but didn't throw him under the bus. Good leader, if you ask me.

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« #6 : September 26, 2013, 06:55:34 AM »

I don't see the big deal. Freeman was the starter on Monday, he didn't lie. Schiano had to go through certain channels to make the move. It's like the media is piling on because they feel like he lied to them for some reason. They all saw how garbage Freeman played and probably laughed when he said Freeman is his starter anyway.

They can go to hell.

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« #7 : September 26, 2013, 07:16:37 AM »

exactly.....NFL = not for long. Coach Schiano is no dummy and knows that if things don't turn in the right direction, he's gone as HC....."Schiano May Have Benched His NFL Coaching Career By Sitting Josh Freeman"? I think he may have guaranteed no future in the NFL if he stayed with Freeman. Time to move on. If Glennon fails, we move on to the draft.     

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« #8 : September 26, 2013, 07:28:55 AM »

Schiano addressed the flip flop within 60 seconds of his pressed starting. On Monday Josh was the starter, then he had a meeting with Dom and the Glazers and things changed.


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« #9 : September 26, 2013, 07:29:31 AM »

exactly.....NFL = not for long. Coach Schiano is no dummy and knows that if things don't turn in the right direction, he's gone as HC....."Schiano May Have Benched His NFL Coaching Career By Sitting Josh Freeman"? I think he may have guaranteed no future in the NFL if he stayed with Freeman. Time to move on. If Glennon fails, we move on to the draft.   

No we move onto vet's because Tampa has no experience or proven winning history whatsoever to develop a QB. The draft is a bust even if we get the #1 overall pick and get the best QB available. *cough Steve Young cough*

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« #10 : September 26, 2013, 07:32:00 AM »

what vet will be available in free agency?
Vick? Cutler will likely be re-signed. Flynn may be cut by the Raiders. Moore? Henne? Sanchez? A cut backup? Barkley?
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« #11 : September 26, 2013, 07:33:26 AM »

    I think this will more likely SAVE Schiano's tenure with the Bucs, not "bench" it.
    Folks, just read exactly what Schiano said regarding Freeman. Evaluation of personnel is a 24/7 activity, and that's a GOOD thing.
He said in a PC the Bucs brass hashed this over in an intense meeting AFTER Schiano's last PC where he said "Josh is our starter".
He has NEVER said that I'm aware of "Josh is a great QB", or "Josh is a great decision-maker" etc etc. I have never heard an unequivocal endorsemnt of Josh from Schiano.
He HAS said "Josh is a hard worker" and "Josh understands our system" etc. Nice complements, but IMO leaves the door open.
    Yes, he said "Josh is our starter" several times, which WAS TRUE AT THE TIME SCHIANO WAS ASKED THE QUESTION. After FULLY evaluating Josh's performance vs the Patriots and weighing it with the 8-9 games prior and then the consultation mentioned earlier, the decision was made to bring the Josh Freeman era in Tampa to a close.
    Schiano at least tried to make something of Josh, which Chip Kelly apparently was unwilling to do...

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« #12 : September 26, 2013, 07:35:58 AM »

what vet will be available in free agency?

Glennon is as good as Teddy on the Buc's but feel free to wait another year to learn what fan's who have been watching for over 30 years already know. If you don't learn history you're doomed to repeat it.

Even an average vet QB like Brad Johnson can win a SB so there's plenty of options.
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« #13 : September 26, 2013, 07:39:00 AM »

NDY: again well stated ---can't believe that talking heads like Deumig can't think things out like you have--and you're right about Kelly.....he had to look at our QB as well as our GM when declining the job.

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« #14 : September 26, 2013, 07:42:27 AM »

what vet will be available in free agency?

Glennon is as good as Teddy on the Buc's but feel free to wait another year to learn what fan's who have been watching for over 30 years already know. If you don't learn history you're doomed to repeat it.

Even an average vet QB like Brad Johnson can win a SB so there's plenty of options.

Bucs appear to be looking for more than an avg vet that brings one good season to the team - Bucs appear to be looking for their version of Brees, Rogers, Manning - someone who will bring years of success to the organization. That's what really sells tickets for season after season. The Glazers have learned that one-hit wonders (2002) doesn't sell tickets and doesn't earn fan loyalty like long term success does.
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