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#30 : October 29, 2006, 06:03:24 PM

we should chill out. we all know deep down inside that grads sux

That is why ESPN singled him out has best rookie under the radar this week. 


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#31 : October 29, 2006, 06:04:12 PM

Caradoc, thank you for providing hope!!!!!!!!!!!

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#32 : October 29, 2006, 06:04:54 PM

Chill out?? Till when? You're dead? The whole entire freaking thing sucks!! I'm tired of all the excuses for the rookie QB, the young line, the old dfense, etc. The defense stepped it up today. Everything & everybody else sucked! Including the play calling! Who says the WCO is THE system? Why can't we try another one? This version of the Bucs stinks!
do us a favor then, get a refund from PI (which makes you a better fan than all of us) get all your Bucs gear, throw it away. Then go and buy yourself a nice Bears jersey okay?
As a long time fan, season ticket holder,  unabashed Buc lover, etc. I most certainly have the right to criticize what I think is hurting my team & making them suck. The definition  of a fan doesn't mean you have to love everything they do & question nothing. I want them to be good & I think some things are being done wrongly & causing them to perform badly. This does not mean I'm not a fan & would change teams. For you to say that is insulting.



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#33 : October 29, 2006, 06:05:29 PM

And for the Simms haters--he didn't have Joseph or Trueblood. If he had he might still have a spleen.

 ???  Joseph and Trueblood are run specialist not pass blockers.
and on top of that Yatta wasn't playing horrible..

we should chill out. we all know deep down inside that grads sux

That is why ESPN singled him out has best rookie under the radar this week.
actually ESPN knew his career was in a downward spiral but Grad's mother works with Berman hence they threw him a bone...



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#34 : October 29, 2006, 06:06:44 PM

Chill out?? Till when? You're dead? The whole entire freaking thing sucks!! I'm tired of all the excuses for the rookie QB, the young line, the old dfense, etc. The defense stepped it up today. Everything & everybody else sucked! Including the play calling! Who says the WCO is THE system? Why can't we try another one? This version of the Bucs stinks!
do us a favor then, get a refund from PI (which makes you a better fan than all of us) get all your Bucs gear, throw it away. Then go and buy yourself a nice Bears jersey okay?
As a long time fan, season ticket holder,  unabashed Buc lover, etc. I most certainly have the right to criticize what I think is hurting my team & making them suck. The definition  of a fan doesn't mean you have to love everything they do & question nothing. I want them to be good & I think some things are being done wrongly & causing them to perform badly. This does not mean I'm not a fan & would change teams. For you to say that is insulting.
that all you do is run and say stuff defending Chris? Look I met him he's a good dude and I like Chris but Grads has easily outperformed him, and to be honest he's probably the least of our worries right now.

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#35 : October 29, 2006, 06:06:53 PM

That is why ESPN singled him out has best rookie under the radar this week.
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since when did espn's opinion matter much

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#36 : October 29, 2006, 06:10:04 PM

Amen, Mr. DRay!

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#37 : October 29, 2006, 06:10:32 PM

Chill out?? Till when? You're dead? The whole entire freaking thing sucks!! I'm tired of all the excuses for the rookie QB, the young line, the old dfense, etc. The defense stepped it up today. Everything & everybody else sucked! Including the play calling! Who says the WCO is THE system? Why can't we try another one? This version of the Bucs stinks!
do us a favor then, get a refund from PI (which makes you a better fan than all of us) get all your Bucs gear, throw it away. Then go and buy yourself a nice Bears jersey okay?
Don't worry, once we cut/trade simms she'll go away. Doesn't ever post on anything other than him so it's a safe bet...
 WRONG!! I was a fan when Doug Williams was QB.  I post on many other things--you just don't read them.

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#38 : October 29, 2006, 06:15:39 PM

Chill out?? Till when? You're dead? The whole entire freaking thing sucks!! I'm tired of all the excuses for the rookie QB, the young line, the old dfense, etc. The defense stepped it up today. Everything & everybody else sucked! Including the play calling! Who says the WCO is THE system? Why can't we try another one? This version of the Bucs stinks!
do us a favor then, get a refund from PI (which makes you a better fan than all of us) get all your Bucs gear, throw it away. Then go and buy yourself a nice Bears jersey okay?
Don't worry, once we cut/trade simms she'll go away. Doesn't ever post on anything other than him so it's a safe bet...
  WRONG!! I was a fan when Doug Williams was QB.  I post on many other things--you just don't read them.
Like Chris' Passing, Chris' teeth, Chris' hair....
C'mon you post almost NOTHING football related if it isn't about him...
Maybe you post on the cove a lot, but not here...

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#39 : October 29, 2006, 06:46:59 PM

As I said in the other thread,

Was today's all Grad's fault? No. It was part him, part our coach being a jackass, and part our WR.

The problem I have with Bruce is that he appears to be regressing rahter then progressing. All I asked from his was to keep progressing, he hasn't been doing that. He has 9 more games to go the right direction.


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#40 : October 29, 2006, 06:55:04 PM

The problem I have with Bruce is that he appears to be regressing rahter then progressing. All I asked from his was to keep progressing, he hasn't been doing that. He has 9 more games to go the right direction.

Well I was sat with a few Bucs fans and they were reasonably pleased with Grads today.  It was a road game against a very aggressive pass rush in bad weather, and his RB and WRs killed him.


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#41 : October 29, 2006, 06:58:16 PM

Jeeze...

A rookie QB, a young o-line, an aging defense that looked bad in the 2nd half against Philly last week going on the road against one of the hottest teams in the NFC and playing in 30-35 MPH winds.

What did everyone expect would happen?

Gradkowski looks like a rookie. Don't believe me? Go watch tape of the Arizona game. Rookie QBs look like Rookie QBs. When Rookie QBs are asked to throw 50 times in a game, not a lot of good things are going to happen. Period.

Everyone needs to chill -- this isn't a very good football team and there are going to be more games like this in the future. But to sit and yell and dog about Gradkowski sucks, etc....well, it's a level of ignorance that drags the quality of discussion on here down.

all this is very true,just have to strap'em up next year lets just grown

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#42 : October 29, 2006, 07:04:17 PM

Rookie QBs will regress at times. Deal with it folks.

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#43 : October 29, 2006, 07:07:28 PM

THis game wasn't on Bruce.  He blew some shots but with what was in his face all day, and what was (not) done when he made good passes, it ain't on him.  We used to make QBs look ugly.  Premier QBs would come to tampa and look like rooks.  Today NYG made Grads look like a rook.  And he IS a rook, wow!  Those drops happen, but cmon, that was just a sad performance by our WR corps.  The only thing worse was the OL going up against a D that lost 2 starters last week and had a questionable secondary when healthy...

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#44 : October 29, 2006, 07:57:55 PM

Chill out?? Till when? You're dead? The whole entire freaking thing sucks!! I'm tired of all the excuses for the rookie QB, the young line, the old dfense, etc. The defense stepped it up today. Everything & everybody else sucked! Including the play calling! Who says the WCO is THE system? Why can't we try another one? This version of the Bucs stinks!
do us a favor then, get a refund from PI (which makes you a better fan than all of us) get all your Bucs gear, throw it away. Then go and buy yourself a nice Bears jersey okay?
Don't worry, once we cut/trade simms she'll go away. Doesn't ever post on anything other than him so it's a safe bet...
 WRONG!! I was a fan when Doug Williams was QB.  I post on many other things--you just don't read them.

We were winning when Doug Williams was QB. I note that you don't say you were a fan "since" Doug Williams was a fan. Were you a fan when Yarno was kicking extra points? When Hedberg was QB?

It really sounds like you're not really a fan of the Bucs but a fan of winning football. Nothing wrong with that but it's not the same thing. Fan is short for fanatic.

By definition "fa·nat·ic - A person marked or motivated by an extreme, unreasoning enthusiasm, as for a cause."

Enthusiasm. Not criticism. Not anger. Not negativity. Enthusiasm. That's what a fan is.

If you like a team and don't like them when they're losing you're not a fan of the team but a fan of winning football and like I said, there's no crime in that. When we start winning again you'll be a fan of the team again. Now, you're not. No biggie but the truth.
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