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#15 : May 12, 2007, 02:23:23 PM

People like bad news.

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#16 : May 12, 2007, 02:26:58 PM

It may not be comforting but it's not any worse than years gone by. In fact, it's
safer. Stats tell the story. Advice for you? Don't watch the beginning of the
local news. It's always murders and such...

We'll have to wait for the stats for the rest of 2006 and  2007...

http://www.sptimes.com/2006/07/11/State/Local__Florida_crime_.shtml    
   
Local, Florida crime rates dip

Gov. Jeb Bush credits his gun legislation and tougher penalties for the state’s lowest crime rate in 30 years.

By ABHI RAGHUNATHAN and JENNIFER LIBERTO
Published July 11, 2006

TALLAHASSEE — The state’s serious crime rate fell to the lowest level in three decades last year, a development Gov. Jeb Bush hailed Tuesday as validation for his policies on gun control and criminal justice.

Bush credited tougher penalties as one reason for the lower crime rate. He also said the figures show that controlling human behavior, not guns, is the way to reduce crime.

“I think law-abiding citizens who have guns for protection are actually part of the reason we have a lower crime rate,” Bush said at a press conference in the Capitol. “I don’t think that there’s a lot of data that suggests that gun control reduces crime.”

But Ronald Akers, a professor of criminology and sociology at the University of Florida, said scholars were uncertain why the crime rate has steadily decreased nationwide since the 1980s. He said tougher sentences for criminals may have kept repeat offenders off the streets, but that demographic factors like an aging population may have played a role.

“I would say there are some reasonable hypotheses, but no one has been able to come up with some hard data for why the crime rate has been steadily declining,” Akers said.

The rate — which includes crimes such as murder, rape, assault and major theft — dropped 3.7 percent in 2005 to 4,677.2 per 100,000 residents, according to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. The total number of reported serious crimes also dropped 1.5 percent from the previous year.

Bush cited the “10-20-LIFE” crime bill as an example of an effective law. It requires a minimum 10-year sentence for crimes committed with a gun, a 20-year sentence for firing a gun during the commission of a crime and 25 years to life if the bullet fired causes death or injury.

Local law enforcement officials cheered the state news. St. Petersburg police Chief Chuck Harmon said he was glad the city’s rate of serious crimes also saw a reduction last year. He said the trend was expected to continue this year.

“I’m pleased that we’re paralleling the state of Florida in crime reduction,” Harmon said. “That’s good news for all Floridians.”

Tampa police Chief Steve Hogue said he credited his officers and improved technology that gives a real time accounting of crime patterns for the decrease.

“They’re working smarter, and they’re working harder,” Hogue said.

St. Petersburg saw its serious crime rate drop from 8,428 per 100,000 residents to 7,979 in 2005. Tampa’s rate fell from 9,272.9 per 100,000 to 7,649.

The crime rate fell statewide in nearly every category. The number of murders fell 6.9 percent to 881. Forcible sex offenses dipped 1.6 percent to 12,230. And burglaries edged down 0.9 percent to 164,777.

Those figures show that Floridians are less likely to be burglarized or killed today than in decades.

Times reporter Abbie VanSickle contributed to this report. Abhi Raghunathan can be reached at (727) 893-8472.

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#17 : May 12, 2007, 03:07:28 PM

Crime across the states is down and has been. Youth crime is way down since the mid 90's (so much for the video game theory BTW).

All posts are opinions in case you are too stupid to figure that out on your own without me saying it over and over.



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#18 : May 13, 2007, 12:08:03 PM

The whole point of the thread was missed in that it was originally about people acting ignorant and crazy, and the fact that it seems to be getting worse everyday. So before this is taken even further off track than it already has - time to grab the keys and do a lockdown.  ::)

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#19 : May 12, 2007, 06:49:37 PM

I always thought the crime in TB area was from the transient white trailer trash folks that moved to the state for jobs (hope I didn't offend any trailer trash posters).  But even back in the 1980s I remembered murders in Brandon, Ybor City, Eastlake areas - and Clearwater/St Pete. 



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#20 : May 13, 2007, 12:39:23 AM

So according to Joe and his lil stat sheet, it's perfectly SAFE to just stroll the streets of Tampa Bay at any time of night or day without any worries of a crime being committed.  ::)

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#21 : May 13, 2007, 12:44:28 AM

Did I say that? If I did, copy and paste my words...

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#22 : May 13, 2007, 12:45:07 AM

I can do that with my dog!   :)



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#23 : May 13, 2007, 12:45:20 AM

No, I don't think he's saying that at all. He's just saying the perception that crime is up is a perception derived from the media, and general public's seemingly obsessive attitude towards murder and crime.



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#24 : May 13, 2007, 12:53:23 AM

Having lived here all of my life the news is either now reporting all the murders and shootings going on the past few years, or they were just not mentioning them very much before back in the 80's and 90's. Because I caught a minute of the 11:00 news tonight and sure enough....................some dude murdered a pregnant woman right here in the Bay area tonight!!



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#25 : May 13, 2007, 01:00:23 AM

I think you just answered yourself.



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#26 : May 13, 2007, 01:03:56 AM

I went to school with this guy grades 9-12, and have no idea what happened to him after high school to make him so freakin crazy and violent(because he was never like that in school).

Tampa 'Officer Down'
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By VALERIE KALFRIN The Tampa Tribune

Published: May 12, 2007


TAMPA - Three Tampa police officers and a bail bondsman found Kevin Dexter Hunter on Friday morning in the home of a woman he was accused of running off the road months ago. They had a warrant for his arrest.

"Show your hands! Show your hands!" they said.

Hunter, 38, responded by firing at the officers with a large-caliber revolver, striking Master Patrol Officer John Armao in the shoulder and grazing his cheek, police said.

The wounded Armao ran from the house, at 711 N. Castle Court, and collapsed in the street.

"Officer down," came the call at 6:31 a.m. Other officers and paramedics rushed to the area to help. Guns drawn, they set up a perimeter around the house.

At 6:53 a.m., the officers heard another shot from Hunter's gun. This time, he had turned it on himself. It was the final violent act in a life filled with violence and incarceration.

Armao, 40, underwent surgery at Tampa General Hospital for extensive injury to his shoulder, police said. Mayor Pam Iorio and Police Chief Stephen Hogue spoke with him at the hospital.


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#27 : May 13, 2007, 01:05:32 AM

So according to Joe and his lil stat sheet, it's perfectly SAFE to just stroll the streets of Tampa Bay at any time of night or day without any worries of a crime being committed. ::)

Not sure if that's sarcasm, but Joe's article discounts what you posted that crime is worsening - you posted also that crime/murder wasn't a problem in the TB area decades ago.  He's just proving you wrong.



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#28 : May 13, 2007, 01:09:10 AM

^
See the above post and couple that with about 3-4 other shootings that have occured recently, and then toss those statistic sheets out the window because the streets are getting more and more dangerous.  ::)



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#29 : May 13, 2007, 01:10:37 AM

Umm...the perception sure, but if crime rates are lowering as the population rises, then simply put it's safer.

Also I hate to tell you Chris, but stats > perception.

Men lie.
Women lie.
Numbers don't.
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