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#15 : November 05, 2006, 05:35:03 PM

oh i didn't know a coach just had to win the min, amount of game for the season. so far we got 2 wins.. yea, thanks gruden for our wins. we so appreciate it!

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#16 : November 05, 2006, 05:35:48 PM

Gradkowski does look lost out there but so did Peyton Manning his first year starting when he finished 3-13.  I give him a pass this year as he learns life in the NFL.  My issue is that he seems afraid to try to make plays downfield.  The checkdowns are killing the offense

Peyton was also a HIGHLY touted QB coming from a major College Program and a #1 Overall pick.  Bruce was a 6th round pick from a very small school.  There is probably a reason now why all the Major College Program passed on him and the NFL teams passed on him 6 times.

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#17 : November 05, 2006, 05:36:43 PM

The players stink.  IT is not the coaches.

Clayton is garbage, parts of the O-line (mahan, wade) are garbage.

The secondary is garbage (except Ronde).

The linebackers are horrible.

The front four is crap.

And this is Coach Grudens fault how?




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#18 : November 05, 2006, 05:38:34 PM

The players stink.  IT is not the coaches.

Clayton is garbage, parts of the O-line (mahan, wade) are garbage.

The secondary is garbage (except Ronde).

The linebackers are horrible.

The front four is crap.

And this is Coach Grudens fault how?
I didnt know carolina Fans were allowed on the thread



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#19 : November 05, 2006, 05:39:32 PM

oh i didn't know a coach just had to win the min, amount of game for the season. so far we got 2 wins.. yea, thanks gruden for our wins. we so appreciate it!
you should it could be worse

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#20 : November 05, 2006, 05:40:24 PM

The players stink.  IT is not the coaches.

Clayton is garbage, parts of the O-line (mahan, wade) are garbage.

The secondary is garbage (except Ronde).

The linebackers are horrible.

The front four is crap.

And this is Coach Grudens fault how?

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#21 : November 05, 2006, 05:41:46 PM

The players stink.  IT is not the coaches.

Clayton is garbage, parts of the O-line (mahan, wade) are garbage.

The secondary is garbage (except Ronde).

The linebackers are horrible.

The front four is crap.

And this is Coach Grudens fault how?
The coaches decide who is on the team.  If we have sub-par players, they are only here because the GM & HC put them here.  For that reason, the big guys take a lot of the blame, IMO.

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#22 : November 05, 2006, 05:42:04 PM

The players stink. IT is not the coaches.

Clayton is garbage, parts of the O-line (mahan, wade) are garbage.

The secondary is garbage (except Ronde).

The linebackers are horrible.

The front four is crap.

And this is Coach Grudens fault how?
I didnt know carolina Fans were allowed on the thread

I didn't know Boobs were allowed either.

It isn't about not supporting the team.  It is about KNOWING that what they are working with is worthless.

Now go get your shine box. :-*


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#23 : November 05, 2006, 05:42:27 PM

He didn't look to hot out there, despite Galloway.

Take away Galloway, and he might have had a 2 rating.


LMAO....and what did Simms ever do without Galloway?

I know you have a hard on for Grads, but I think it is about time to admit he is not the future....not saying SImms is either, but maybe we REALLY need to look at getting a highly talented QB in here...

careful, MJS will throw things at you if you criticize Bruce Almighty. The bottom line is we have no other alternatives.  Luke isn't the savior and is no better then Bruce. in fact, Bruce now has more pro starts then Luke.  Nope, we have to let Bruce go down with the ship and finish this debacle of a season.  At least then, after 13 starts, we'll more or less know what we have in him.  as of now, he certainly hasn't done anything to make me think that the QB position isn't a major need this offseason.



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#24 : November 05, 2006, 05:42:37 PM

The players stink. IT is not the coaches.

Clayton is garbage, parts of the O-line (mahan, wade) are garbage.

The secondary is garbage (except Ronde).

The linebackers are horrible.

The front four is crap.

And this is Coach Grudens fault how?

I support this post.
So we have 2 hidden Carolina Fans on this Thread then



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#25 : November 05, 2006, 05:42:44 PM

i mean come on you guys actually think this is our franchise QB? lol.. this guy is horrible. o-line or not the guy just makes bad decisions and is to small.


If you wanna say the guy makes bad decisions, then say that but to say he's too small means you weren't watching the qb of the other team.

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#26 : November 05, 2006, 05:44:11 PM

At least he isn't Grossman, a first round, injury prone QB in his fourth year who absolutely sucks out loud.



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#27 : November 05, 2006, 05:44:29 PM

The players stink. IT is not the coaches.

Clayton is garbage, parts of the O-line (mahan, wade) are garbage.

The secondary is garbage (except Ronde).

The linebackers are horrible.

The front four is crap.

And this is Coach Grudens fault how?
I didnt know carolina Fans were allowed on the thread

I didn't know Boobs were allowed either.

It isn't about not supporting the team.  It is about KNOWING that what they are working with is worthless.

Now go get your shine box. :-*
Clayton worked as a rookie the line worked last year the secondary worked last year

the stuff we are working with isnt bad its just the situations we are outting our self in and a rookie QB struggling at times with a Banged up defense

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#28 : November 05, 2006, 05:45:11 PM

The players stink. IT is not the coaches.

Clayton is garbage, parts of the O-line (mahan, wade) are garbage.

The secondary is garbage (except Ronde).

The linebackers are horrible.

The front four is crap.

And this is Coach Grudens fault how?

I support this post.
So we have 2 hidden Carolina Fans on this Thread then

You are a retard kid.

You are also a homer.

I am too, but I can admit garbage is garbage.

Obviously, being 2 and 6 is a badge of honor for you, so wear it well loser.


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#29 : November 05, 2006, 05:46:12 PM

Did anyone get a good luck at the Clayton inside run?  I thought he made it but never saw a reverse angle for the spot.  I thought Gruden might challenge it.
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