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#15 : December 15, 2006, 02:52:45 AM

Those of you with a PI next to your name go & read--SR said Gruden & Allen are a package deal. And there is no freaking way Gruden goes to college!! Wow, keep the camera off him at a college game. I don't think the screaming, yelling, & Chuckie faces would play well in college.  OK, Bruce is just Jon's sock puppet.Ask SR if he thinks Gruden doesn't have something to say about everything!  Next year we'll see who's sharper. Jon was only here a year before he got Bruce here--accidental?

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#16 : December 15, 2006, 09:09:58 AM

Jon was only here a year before he got Bruce here--accidental?

2 years. If you're going to make silly arguments and try and support them with facts, at least TRY to get the facts straight.

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#17 : December 16, 2006, 01:47:06 AM

Those of you with a PI next to your name go & read--SR said Gruden & Allen are a package deal. And there is no freaking way Gruden goes to college!! Wow, keep the camera off him at a college game. I don't think the screaming, yelling, & Chuckie faces would play well in college.  OK, Bruce is just Jon's sock puppet.Ask SR if he thinks Gruden doesn't have something to say about everything!  Next year we'll see who's sharper. Jon was only here a year before he got Bruce here--accidental?
PI should be PI, but yes, that was noted by SR.  In his opinion they are a package. 
But that doesn't mean he goes down the day Jon does, there would be some lag time.  And with the way he's managed the cap, it may be more him wanting to leave with Jon than the Glazers booting him, that was never made clear.  I would think the Glazers would want him around, he's done an excellent job with caps in the past, he's also an excellent negotiator. 
It was also mentioned that he is Not Jon's Lap-Dog, that's just Karen's opinion.
Him coming here also had a good amount to do with the issues between McKay and Gruden.  Gruden wanted more input into player decisions (and we'd have westbrook instead of walker if he had had that input), and the the Glazers agreed he should have that, while McKay wouldn't let go.  So that he has that input now is something the glazers felt appropriate, perhaps after watching years of McKay draft disasters....

All coaches have something to say about everything.  How much they're listened to, how much weight is given, differs.  That they work well together as a team should be a bonus, not an indictment.

As for Jon not getting a HC job, LMFAO, he'd be the first one hired.  Fans are emotionally reacting to this year, but he still has a great rep around the league.  There are going to be at least 2 clear openings.  And there are coaches who are barely hanging onto their job next season and Jon's availability would push them into unemployment.

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#18 : December 16, 2006, 04:17:43 AM

gruden and allen are tight friends they go to dinner with their wives frequently in the off season...there a match made in heaven...wait till after this off season and draft this team is going to take off....from worst to first.



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#19 : December 16, 2006, 07:30:46 AM

SR said Gruden & Allen are a package deal
And I'm sure SR would be proud that you're revealing inside info here.

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#20 : December 16, 2006, 01:21:11 PM

I could easily see Gruden going back to work for Al Davis. Perfect situation for he and Allen, the Raiders can't get any worse.  Imagine Davis getting the best coach he's had since Shanahan back for nothing when he was paid a king's ransom for him just 5 years ago.

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#21 : December 17, 2006, 12:37:03 AM

Gruden would never work for an owner that is so "hands on" again.

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#22 : December 17, 2006, 08:12:55 AM

Gruden would never work for an owner that is so "hands on" again.

Gruden would go back to Oakland in a minute.  There may only be one other opening, assuming Shell is fired.  That would be Arizona which also would make a run at Gruden too if he is fired.  I don't see Pete Carrol leaving USC for AZ.  Leinart would be a great fit for Gruden and the guy had one of the highest wonderlic's so he's got it upstairs too.
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