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: January 03, 2007, 10:49:40 AM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/don_banks/news/2003/04/28/draft_notes/

"Consider this trend: Take the top 50 picks in the past four drafts and combine them into one 200-man pool. Tampa Bay has had the privilege of selecting just one of those players: University of Florida offensive tackle Kenyatta Walker, who was picked 14th overall in 2001.

The Bucs this year again had no first-round pick because of the Jon Gruden trade with Oakland. Because they won that Super Bowl thing in January, Tampa Bay's first selection in this draft came with the 64th pick, the end of the second round.

Last year, the Bucs had no first or second-round selection, thanks to Gruden. Their first pick in 2002 was 86th overall, in the third round.

In 2001, the Bucs traded a second-rounder to Buffalo to get into the first round and select Walker. Tampa Bay had given up its first-rounder as part of the Keyshawn Johnson trade with the Jets in 2000. Thus, the Bucs in 2001 didn't pick again until 84th, after taking Walker.

In 2000, the Bucs gave up their first-round slot to the Jets for Johnson, and didn't pick until No. 51, when they tabbed Tennessee guard Cosey Coleman.

Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but some day, and maybe soon, that kind of inactivity at the top of the draft could prove costly to Tampa Bay's efforts to stay among the league's elite teams."


And of course the article, having been written almost four years ago, doesn't even take into consideration how unspectacular the pick of Coleman and downright sad the use of a 1st and a 2nd on Walker turned out to be. If those two guys could have become anchors for this team, things might have looked a little better for the current state of affairs.

When you have only one pick out of the top 200 guys over four seasons, that top pick can't be as bad a miss as Kenyatta Walker has been.

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#1 : January 03, 2007, 10:51:44 AM

Nice find Dan. 

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#2 : January 03, 2007, 10:54:30 AM

Foward it to John Romano

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#3 : January 03, 2007, 10:54:45 AM

Wow, well I guess that explains alot!!!



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#4 : January 03, 2007, 10:54:53 AM

Thank you, Rich McKay.  You knew how to stick it to your former organization.

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#5 : January 03, 2007, 11:03:51 AM

Good read.


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#6 : January 03, 2007, 11:04:54 AM

excellent, excellent find DarkTurd. Don Banks was right on the money.

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#7 : January 03, 2007, 11:06:56 AM

Wow! Didn't know it was that drastic until reading that, but talk about perspective. Nice article. Hopefully the dark cloud has passed and we're now on the way up.


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#8 : January 03, 2007, 11:16:19 AM

What this explains is that Gruden should be fired for taking away 2 more 1st rounders and 2 2nd rounders for the trade to get him.  This ruined our team after we got our Superbowl.

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#9 : January 03, 2007, 11:24:18 AM

DTG,
Thanks for finding this.  I guess this is part of that "dark cloud thru the windshield" that JG was talking about at his last press conference.  But I keep forgetting, he was just making excuses because if JG answers questions with factors that were part of the problems then he is making excuses.  If he does not answer the question then he "does not know what happened."   Either way the local press and the "haters" are going to bash him.

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#10 : January 03, 2007, 11:26:26 AM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/don_banks/news/2003/04/28/draft_notes/

"Consider this trend: Take the top 50 picks in the past four drafts and combine them into one 200-man pool. Tampa Bay has had the privilege of selecting just one of those players: University of Florida offensive tackle Kenyatta Walker, who was picked 14th overall in 2001.

The Bucs this year again had no first-round pick because of the Jon Gruden trade with Oakland. Because they won that Super Bowl thing in January, Tampa Bay's first selection in this draft came with the 64th pick, the end of the second round.

Last year, the Bucs had no first or second-round selection, thanks to Gruden. Their first pick in 2002 was 86th overall, in the third round.

In 2001, the Bucs traded a second-rounder to Buffalo to get into the first round and select Walker. Tampa Bay had given up its first-rounder as part of the Keyshawn Johnson trade with the Jets in 2000. Thus, the Bucs in 2001 didn't pick again until 84th, after taking Walker.

In 2000, the Bucs gave up their first-round slot to the Jets for Johnson, and didn't pick until No. 51, when they tabbed Tennessee guard Cosey Coleman.

Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but some day, and maybe soon, that kind of inactivity at the top of the draft could prove costly to Tampa Bay's efforts to stay among the league's elite teams."


And of course the article, having been written almost four years ago, doesn't even take into consideration how unspectacular the pick of Coleman and downright sad the use of a 1st and a 2nd on Walker turned out to be. If those two guys could have become anchors for this team, things might have looked a little better for the current state of affairs.

When you have only one pick out of the top 200 guys over four seasons, that top pick can't be as bad a miss as Kenyatta Walker has been.

Good job finding that. It has caught up with the Bucs.

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#11 : January 03, 2007, 11:39:35 AM

good to hear it from an objective source....

you can add to that woe that the top 2 picks (3rd & 4th round) of '02 were true rich mckay stinkers, meaning the '02 draft almost didn't happen.

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#12 : January 03, 2007, 11:53:02 AM

you can add to that woe that the top 2 picks (3rd & 4th round) of '02 were true rich mckay stinkers, meaning the '02 draft almost didn't happen.

Very true.

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#13 : January 03, 2007, 11:54:35 AM

good to hear it from an objective source....

you can add to that woe that the top 2 picks (3rd & 4th round) of '02 were true rich mckay stinkers, meaning the '02 draft almost didn't happen.

When Jermaine Phillips is your prize from a draft, you know you're in trouble.  ;)

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#14 : January 03, 2007, 01:34:06 PM

When Jermaine Phillips is your prize from a draft, you know you're in trouble.  ;)

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