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#15 : March 01, 2009, 01:40:46 AM

ROFLMAO@cville.
It's about to snow here in Jersey. Pull em up quick!

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#16 : March 01, 2009, 01:41:00 AM

You want to pay $10.4 million at the very least just to see if it was Gruden? That's insanity! Use your eyeballs. Gruden didn't force the guy to wear concrete in his cleats or Vaseline on his hands.

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#17 : March 01, 2009, 01:41:46 AM

No, Michael, he has people fooled.
Just cos they're suckers, doesn't mean we had to be BIGGER suckers.

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#18 : March 01, 2009, 01:43:20 AM

5 years  25mil  is not exactly top dollar..................TJ Whoseyourmomma is looking for 10 per.

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#19 : March 01, 2009, 01:43:54 AM

What's scary is, he supposedly took less money to stay then he got from the Seahawks. Seattle was actually willing to pay Clayton more than this????

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#20 : March 01, 2009, 01:44:44 AM

You guys saw the list of teams after him...........guy has value.  

Yeah on toss plays to his side. Tremendous, tenacious blocker on the perimeter- big upside- great in a phone both as Mike Mayock loves to say.



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#21 : March 01, 2009, 01:45:54 AM

What's scary is, he supposedly took less money to stay then he got from the Seahawks. Seattle was actually willing to pay Clayton more than this????





Exactly my point

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#22 : March 01, 2009, 01:46:39 AM

You're gonna say Clayton is worth anywhere NEAR what Ward is asking?
Housh at 10 is a bargain compared to Clayton at 5. Housh is good, a legit WR. Clayton was one good year followed by FOUR lousy ones.
Not ONE, not TWO, not THREE. FOUR. That's proof that a guy lost it. He blew it. It's not the coach, it's not the QBs, it's HIM.
He drops it or he's got no breakaway speed, no YAC.
Big deal, he can block. That's laughable.

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#23 : March 01, 2009, 01:48:52 AM

Mass Suicide in 12 hours

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#24 : March 01, 2009, 01:49:05 AM

I think even a few of us could go out there and drop 2 or 3 passes a game and take plays off for 5 million a year.  :-


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#25 : March 01, 2009, 01:49:17 AM

Michael Clayton stinks and we've seen it for 16 weeks a year for the past 4. What more proof could we possibly need.

The really scary thing is Stovall cannot beat him out. Tells you something about talent at WR.



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#26 : March 01, 2009, 01:50:13 AM

Breakout year for Clayton..............back to rookie form and beyond.

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#27 : March 01, 2009, 01:50:21 AM

That's not good enough, Michael. There was no justification to bring him back and under these terms our inexperienced FO got taken to the cleaners.
Some of you say don't pay Ward (a 1,000-yard RB who ran for 5.6 YPC) this type of money and yet we paid it to a guy who's a below-average No. 3 WR?
That's mismanagement of the highest degree.

Agreed.

I almost feel sick looking at that.

I am almost positive Clayton will do next to NOTHING this upcoming season.

And I can hear all the excuses already:

He is in a new system.  He has a new QB.  He is wide open and McCown is missing him.  He had a busted pinky finger.  His confidence is shaken from last year.



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#28 : March 01, 2009, 01:50:31 AM

$5 million isn't that bad.
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Bernard Berrian signed a six-year, $42 million contract with the Minnesota Vikings that included $16 million in guaranteed money. He only had 48 catches for 964 yards. Last year. His best year was the year before and he only had 71 catches for 950 yards. Oh and Berrian was a #1 WR.

Clayton has been the #2 or lower since his 2nd year and has been in Gruden's dog house for most of that. He has some really good tools and I'd like to see what he can do in a new offense. Clayton only has $10 guaranteed so that's basically a 2 year rental and if he sucks...they can cut him.

Now is it a little too much? Probably. I'd rather see Clayton in the $3.5-4 million range. So...he got an extra $1 million. With our cap room...and having pretty much only Bryant...we needed to land 2 WRs. Clayton, Henderson and Washington were probably the top 3 WRs out there. So, it's not that bad of a deal. I mean...we have to spend our money somewhere right? At least we now have something and if we can land either Washinton or Henderson...we are going to have a lot of weapons to throw to.

Whoa...shiver me ****in timbers!


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#29 : March 01, 2009, 01:51:38 AM

If this is going to be considered THEE big free agent signing at WR this year by Mark Dominik, I wanna see him fired already!  >:(

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