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: June 04, 2009, 06:12:37 PM

Also Brooks:

Outside Linebacker
James Harrison, Pittsburgh, 2008
101 tackles, 16 sacks, 1 INT, 1 safety, 7 forced fumbles

Simply put, Harrison in 2008 was the best player on one of the best NFL defenses in years. It was a defense that could go, statistically, toe-to-toe with the legendary Steel Curtain of the 1970s, and it was a defense that carried the Steelers to their record sixth Super Bowl title.

Harrison's production says it all: 101 tackles, coupled with 16 sacks, making him a deserving recipient of NFL Defensive Player of the Year honors.

He led a defense that surrendered just 4.71 yards per pass attempt last year, one of the stingiest marks in modern NFL history and easily the best of 2008. The Steelers were also the toughest team to run on in '08. They allowed 3.29 yards per attempt on the ground. To put that mark into historic perspective that every Pittsburgher can understand: in the Steel Curtain Era, only the dominating 1976 squad surrendered fewer yards per attempt on the ground (3.22) than the 2008 team.

Honorable mention: Derrick Brooks, Tampa Bay, 2002; Mike Vrabel, New England, 2004



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#1 : June 04, 2009, 05:41:12 PM

Big shout out to Barber and a honorable mention to Ruud.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/06/02/decade/1.html

"Middle Linebacker
Ray Lewis, Baltimore, 2000
107 tackles, 30 assists, 3 sacks, 3 fumble recoveries, 2 INT

Lewis kicked off the decade with a head-smashing bang that still echoes around the league.

In fact, he did it all in 2000: He was named Defensive Player of the Year, Super Bowl MVP and he led the single toughest defense of the Live Ball Era (1978-present), a unit that surrendered just 10.3 PPG. The 2000 Ravens were virtually impossible to run on, too; they allowed opposing ball carriers just 2.69 YPA, the lowest mark any defense has allowed in the Super Bowl Era.

Lewis' 2000 Ravens were to modern defensive football what Tom Brady's 2007 Patriots were to modern offensive football -- except that Lewis actually walked away with all the postseason hardware.

Nearly a decade later, he remains one of the league's preeminent forces on the field and one of its preeminent personalities off the field. But he, and 21st-century defensive football, was never as good as it was in 2000.

Honorable mention: Barrett Ruud, Tampa Bay, 2007; Brian Urlacher, 2001

Cornerback
Ronde Barber, Tampa Bay, 2002
79 tackles, 3 sacks, 2 INTs

Barber had a better individual season in 2001, when he hauled in 10 INTs to tie the record for most by any defender since 1982. But in 2002, he was the leading force on the best pass defense of the past two decades -- a unit that would carry the Buccaneers to the first and only Super Bowl championship in franchise history.

That year, the Bucs led the league in total defense and scoring defense, allowing just 196 points. For a little perspective, that's two fewer than the number of points allowed by the legendary 1985 Bears.

Barber's Bucs posted a tremendous 48.4 defensive passer rating that season, the lowest mark any defense has allowed in the past 20 years and the lowest mark any Super Bowl champion has surrendered since NFL rule changes opened up the passing game in 1978, spawning the Live Ball Era of pro football.

The stifling nature of the Tampa pass defense was on full display for the nation in Super Bowl XXXVII, when Barber and the Bucs embarrassed Oakland quarterback and 2002 NFL MVP Rich Gannon. Tampa picked him off five times, returning three for touchdowns in a dominating 48-21 victory.

Barber is a sure-fire Hall of Famer, the active leader in defensive touchdowns (11) and the only cornerback in history with 20 or more sacks and 20 or more INTs on his resume. The 2002 season was his finest hour."

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#2 : June 04, 2009, 06:50:28 PM

didnt brooks have like 5 TDs in 2002?  I know Harrisons sacks were great...


maybe im just actually being a homer for once...

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#3 : June 04, 2009, 07:00:49 PM

didnt brooks have like 5 TDs in 2002?  I know Harrisons sacks were great...


maybe im just actually being a homer for once...

No, it is the bad notion that OLB's are rated on sacks. Brooks in 2002 was the best 4-3 LB effort I've ever seen.

All posts are opinions in case you are too stupid to figure that out on your own without me saying it over and over.

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#4 : June 04, 2009, 07:08:57 PM

didnt brooks have like 5 TDs in 2002?  I know Harrisons sacks were great...


maybe im just actually being a homer for once...

No, it is the bad notion that OLB's are rated on sacks. Brooks in 2002 was the best 4-3 LB effort I've ever seen.

Agreed.


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#5 : June 04, 2009, 07:09:59 PM

Warren Sapp's 2000 season was more dominating then Haynesworth 2008 season, when you look at Sapps stats from 2000 he had 52 tackles, 16.5 sacks, 1 FF, 1 FR

Bucs 2000 Stats
Passing Yards Average Game 192
Total Passing Yards 3,152
Touchdowns 15
Int 25
Rushing Yards Average Game 103
Rushing Yards 1,648
Touchdowns 12
Total yards Combined 4,800
Per Game 300
Total Points 269
Per Game 16.81

Titans 2008 Stats
Passing Yards Average Game 200
Total Passing Yards 3,196
Touchdowns 12
Int 20
Rushing Yards Average Game 94
Rushing Yards 1,502
Touchdowns 12
Total yards Combined 4,698
Per Game 294
Total Points 234
Per Game 14.63

Statically both defense were on par with each other, But Sapp's overall numbers when it comes to impact plays or in this case sacks, that change the momentum of a game were double that of Haynesworth's, just don't see how Haynesworth or for that Matter Kevin Williams leap frogged a player that changed they way teams view defensive tackles. Just don't see how Sapp did not get the nod to be number one in the 2000's for top honor.


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#6 : June 04, 2009, 10:39:27 PM

One thing is for sure... the bucs defense over the last decade or so has influenced the game greatly, and left behind some amazing performances for players of today and the future to follow.

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#7 : June 05, 2009, 07:38:10 PM

didnt brooks have like 5 TDs in 2002? I know Harrisons sacks were great...


maybe im just actually being a homer for once...

No, it is the bad notion that OLB's are rated on sacks. Brooks in 2002 was the best 4-3 LB effort I've ever seen.

Agreed.
They may as well have been comparing two different positions.  Stats for a 3-4 OLB are going to be different than a 4-3 OLB (same goes for DE's.)  There is no way a 4-3 OLB should have as many sacks as a 3-4 OLB.  Harrison had an excellent year but you've got to put in perspective.

The other thing with any "best of" list is that folks tend to suffer from memory loss with these things; whatever happened most recently tends to be the 'greatest ever' while something that happened a while ago falls victim to 'out of sight, out of mind.'

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#8 : June 05, 2009, 08:33:03 PM

Derrick Brooks should be number 1 for his 2002 season, same as Sapp for 2000.


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#9 : June 07, 2009, 07:27:18 PM

Who would make you're all 2000 team for our Bucs?

HC: Jon Gruden(I know Morris didn't coach yet and Dungy only had 2 years, but Gruden takes the cake here)


QB: Brad Johnson(01-04)
RB: Michael Pittman(02-07)
FB: Mike Alstott(00-06)
WR: Joey Galloway(04-08)
WR: Keyshawn Johnson(01-03)
WR: Keenan McCardell(02-04)
TE: Kellen Winslow(09)-didn't even play for us yet, but boy we didn't have many studs at this position
T: Roman Oben
G: Cosey Coleman
C: Jeff Faine
G: Davin Joseph
T: Kenyatta Walker

DE: Simeon Rice(01-06)
DT: Warren Sapp(00-03)
DT: Chris Hovan(05-09)
DE: Greg Spires(02-07)
LB: Derrick Brooks(00-08)
LB: Barrett Ruud(05-09)
LB: Shelton Quarles(00-06)
CB: Ronde Barber(00-09)
CB: Brian Kelly(00-07)
CB: Dwight Smith
S: John Lynch(00-03)
S: Jermaine Phillips(00-09)
K: Matt Bryant(04-08)
P: Josh Bidwell

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#10 : June 07, 2009, 07:33:11 PM


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/06/02/decade/1.html

Barber is a sure-fire Hall of Famer...
No way is he a sure-fire HOFer.  I doubt he ever gets in.


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#11 : June 07, 2009, 07:39:42 PM

"Defensive End
Michael Strahan, New York Giants, 2001
22.5 sacks, 73 tackles, 1 fumble recovery, 1 TD


Honorable mention: Jason Taylor, Miami, 2006"


Honorable mention should go to Simion Rice 2002 IMO.

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