Contract Situation Not Sitting Well With Garcia

Bucs QB Jeff Garcia sounded off about his contract situation on Tuesday (Reinhold Matay)

Bucs QB Jeff Garcia sounded off about his contract situation on Tuesday (Reinhold Matay)

Buccaneers quarterback Jeff Garcia participated in Tuesday's organized team activity at One Buc Place, but he's still frustrated by the progress, or lack thereof, made on a contract extension. Find out what Garcia said in this article.



 

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers took the field Tuesday for their second set of organized team activities of the offseason.

Quarterback Jeff Garcia participated in the voluntary workout, but he still is frustrated by his current contract situation.

Garcia, 38, is entering the final year of his deal with the Buccaneers. It is scheduled to pay him $2 million in base salary and also includes $2.5 million in not-likely-to-be-earned incentives. 

Tampa Bay's front office and Garcia's agent, Steve Baker, have had dialogue regarding a contract extension for the Pro Bowl signal caller.

But according to Garcia, little progress has been made on that front.

"[The Bucs] have indicated to my agent that they'd be working something out or trying to work something out, but it's at a snail's pace it seems right now," said Garcia. "I have one year left on my contract. At the rate it's going who knows if it will actually happen before the season starts."

Garcia signed a two-year contract with the Bucs in March of 2007. He earned a $2 million base salary and received a $3 million signing bonus when he inked his contract.

However, Garcia missed out on at least $1 million in not-likely-to-be-earned incentives due to Tampa Bay's decision to rest him down the stretch once the Bucs had won the NFC South division title.

It is unclear what level of compensation Garcia is looking for. However, Garcia, who completed 209-of-327 (63.9 percent) of his passes for 2,440 yards and tossed 13 touchdowns and four interceptions in 13 games last season, is reportedly looking to be paid in the $7 million per year range.

Baker and Bucs general manager Bruce Allen were scheduled to discuss Garcia's contract situation on Friday, but Garcia said the Bucs canceled that scheduled conversation and a new one has not been scheduled.

"They were supposed to talk on Friday but for some reason that got pushed off until a later date," said Garcia. "I don't know when that time is going to be. That was the Bucs' decision to put it off longer. I try not to get caught up too much in it. I want to let my agent handle the business and do what is right for me and protect me. I'm trying to come out here, bust my tail and go through the OTAs with my team. I just want things to work out on the other end."

The lack of progress made on contract negotiations hasn't kept Garcia from participating in the team's voluntary OTAs, but he made it clear that an unresolved contract situation could have a negative impact on he and the Buccaneers.

"It is important for me to be out here with my teammates," said Garcia. "I think it's good for me because it allows me to stay sharp and continue to improve within the system. There might come a time where I might have to stand up. I would hate to do that and jeopardize my teammates because they're out here and I don't want to let them down in any sort of way. At some point you want to see the respect from up top given.

"I'm under center [when training camp begins]. But after a while it does start to play with you mentally. This is a physical game and you want players to go out and give everything they have and lay their bodies on the line and lay their hearts on the line. ‘Well, we want you to lay something on the line, too.' That's what it really comes down to."

The Buccaneers currently have $29 million in salary cap room. They are interested signing several players, including Garcia, to contract extensions, but must also allocate a portion of that cap room to signing their 2008 draft picks.

"I think we all know there is money to be worked with," said Garcia. "Hopefully all of that will work itself out. Right now I just want to focus on being here and improving myself.

"But there comes a time when [the team] wants us to bend over backwards and give everything we have. ‘Well, we want the same out of you.'"

In addition to talking about his own contract situation, the 6-foot-1, 220-pound Garcia said several Bucs players were worthy of new contracts, including running back Earnest Graham, who has chosen to not participate in voluntary organized team activities so far this offseason.

"There are a few players on this team that I believe should be rewarded," said Garcia. "One of those guys isn't here with us right now and I don't know if [his contract] is the reason. Earnest Graham had a spectacular year last year. In no way do I or anyone else on this team feel that was a fluke, but yet he's stuck on the bottom and he's a guy that we all believe as teammates and players in this business that should be rewarded. I don't think anybody here is trying to break the bank. It's about what your peers around the league are making and being respected and appreciated in that sort of way.

"I understand that [Bruce Allen] has us in a tough situation because we're under contract. We're obligated to play out that year. We understand that, but we also understand what contributions we made on the field last year and where people at our positions are being paid and where we're at. In that sort of way it just makes it real difficult to overcome when you think about the mental and emotional approach every single day. That's where you can become very negative and almost counterproductive as to what this focus of the team is because you're caught up in some of the negative situations above you."

Tampa Bay currently has seven quarterbacks - Garcia, Brian Griese, Luke McCown, Chris Simms, Bruce Gradkowski, Josh Johnson and Jake Plummer - on their roster. However, the Bucs only intend on bringing five quarterbacks to training camp.

Does Garcia plan to attend training camp if he does not receive the new contract he's looking for? When asked that question by the media on Tuesday, Garcia suggested he would honor the deal he signed with the Bucs last year.

"I never have [held out] and I've never felt like I've been in a position or a situation to hold out, and I've never really agreed with that sort of approach to things," said Garcia. "As a player I don't feel like that's right to my teammates. There are two sides to this game. It's a game, yes, but there's a business side, and that's something at some point that needs to be handled.

"I have a lot of faith, but from the way things have seemed to go in the past it doesn't seem to create a real positive picture for the future."

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Comments

kysteve9

Okay guys time to pony up. The guy only has a few years left in the game and has done Great things for us. Time to give some back. I run my own business and have always come to realize you need to take care of the folks who take care of yoyr business.
I realize we have a long list of QB's but in reality we need the senior leader to be a happy camper and help the younger guys along.
Some may say Griese can step in and take care of business and honestly I have a good feeling for what he can do to help us. But that doesn't mean we can ignore what got us back from the dead.
Been a BUCS fan since day one, I've seen us do some "questionable" things over the years. Let's set a president and do the RIGHT thing with Garcia. If he flops this year you can all say we shouldn't have done it, but you know we all gamble everyday. I am sure there can be some clauses in the contract to protect us as well, but if the guy does his job pay him.
I think this year is going to be tough to repeat a winning season anyway. We have a tougher schedule and everyone in our division is going to be gunning for us. Let's get the best out there and kick some butt...and score TOUCHDOWNS and not feild goals.

GO BUCS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

5:40pm, May 13, 2008

Horse

Well some of you are going to rake me over the coals for these comments:
Pay Garcia the money he would have earned if the Bucs had not sat him out. I thought he was injured and wasn't at 90%. I thought that was the problem. If it wasn't, then he deserves the money.
Give him an additional 1 million for reporting to camp. That's it. He's 38!!!!! Next year he will be 39 and I doubt playing anywhere but as a back up for the Bucs. (if his salary is not to high).
I' m sorry , but 5 mil signing bonus, 2 mil salary in 2007, and 3 mil this year is not bad. He's 38! Garcia shut up and be happy you can still play football at 38!
Maybe it was wise after all to sign Griese. Maybe Allen saw this coming. If Garcia doesn't report, it's also his loss, not just ours.
Go Bucs

5:45pm, May 13, 2008

Bucsitaly

$7 million per year range ?! For a 38 old quarterback? i agree with the bucs.

6:13pm, May 13, 2008

Waaahhh!!

Do you hear that sound Jeff???

It's the sound of the world's smallest violin playing just for you...

I hope the Bucs pay up for Graham, White & Haye before this 37 year old cry baby sees another dime

6:35pm, May 13, 2008

hamilton

the guy is 38

6:35pm, May 13, 2008

bucfan47

Well that's the problem guys. Everyone wants to sign him, and so do the Bucs. But the problem is Garcia wants $7 million dollars next season. That's reported by PR (See Above). I've actually heard it's $7-$8 million with guaranteed money and a signing bonus as well.

Bruce Allen has a very tough decision to in Garcia. How much to pay him? And for how long? If he pays Garcia based on his performance last season, he's right, he'd fall somewhere in the $7 million dollar range for next season.

I have no idea what the guy is looking for in terms of compensation or for how much he's desiring in terms of money. I'll take PR's word and say it's around $7 million per year.

One question I've often wondered about is why the Bucs didn't reach an agreement with Garcia before the draft? To me, the Bucs held the cards before the draft. Now that the draft is behind us, it appears that Garcia holds the cards somewhat. Now, some of that may be intentional. Bruce Allen may have full intention of paying Garcia that kind of money, but it's beginning to seem as the Bucs are questioning how much he's worth. Now I'm not saying that's the truth, but there's no question the guy deserves to be paid.

I personally feel he needs to be inked to a 2 year deal worth around 15 million with a signing bonus. I think that would be enough to get this guy through the end of his career and make him happy financially.

Some of you may feel that's too much, but the guy's a warrior and we need him for 2 more seasons. The deal may even be structured for as many as 3 years, with clauses built in based on retirement and other variables pertaining to performance. I would look for something to get done pretty soon.

It looks as if he's prepared to hold out if it doesn't get done.

As far as Graham, I appreciate what Graham did last season but he needs to get another agent. He's ran well for one season, but he still didn't earn 1,000 yards on the ground. I have no doubt he's being pressured to ask for more money than he's worth, and it's ridiculous. I'm all for guys getting paid, but c'mon Graham, get your ass in and start practicing.

There were alot of factors that played into Graham's success, not just his ability to run the ball. He needs to sign or find himself another team. It's getting old already hearing about one-year wonderboy. I don't mean to bash on him, but I can't stand his agent. For someone like Graham to have him as his representative, it's insane to me. The Bucs have probably offered you 2-3 million dollars for next season based on performance, and you need to take it. Prove to everyone it's not a fluke and pound that rock again next season.

You're gonna be the workhorse, it's gonna be your ground game to prove you're deserving of being paid big-time money. Let's start by rushing 1,000 yards next season.

6:39pm, May 13, 2008

mostlarge

Why do these guys sign a contract and then complain that their not paid similar to others in the same position? Why did you sign the deal in the first place. He is a stopgap. He played solid football but he didn't exactly light the place up every game. If he is our starter this year and next then you obviously need to sign him but he isn't our starter for the '10 season, then why would you give away money. I think the Bucs need to play this out a little bit more. See where Brian and Luke are with things. Plus with the way Garcia plays, who's to say he'll even be playing in the league in 2 years. Bruce Allen has never caved to any player taking his demands public. What makes Garcia think he's got a chance of working this thing out in the media?

6:53pm, May 13, 2008

Horse

Whew! I'm on the page as everybody else is about Garcia and Graham!
There will be plenty of players available almost as good as Gracia or Graham in late August.
As soon as Graham hired that greedy sob of an agent Iwould have traded him immediately for anything. The Bucs are dealing with a well known bottom feeder who has messed of more than the norm of up and coming players. Graham what were you thinking?
I'm on your side Allen
Go Bucs

7:02pm, May 13, 2008

bucfan4ever

Somebody at PR wrote in a recent article (sorry I don't remember exactly which one) that Garcia has always been about the money.
And so it turns out. That's too bad. These guys (professional athletes) are creating an alternative universe. Chris Simms gets 2 mill for doing squat and then disses the generous employer by not showing up. Chad Johnson - well - you know what that's all about. etc etc etc.

7:27pm, May 13, 2008

clairvoyantent1

No chance Garcia gets 7 miilion dollar a year. Guys who average 1 td pass a game don't make that kind of money. Yes, he had a Pro-Bowl season by playing very efficiently and not turning the ball over. Yes, that merits a contract extension and a raise. But he is not in the class of the great playmaking QB's who make money in that range. Throw his age in - and you get the point.
If the Bucs are smart, they'll get him for 3 years at 12 million dollars with about 8 of it guaranteed. Throw in bonus incentives for Pro Bowls, Super Bowls, division championships, etc... that way he'll get his 7 miilion a year if he leads this team to constant success.
But I don't think the Bucs will do that. I truly think they're banking on only needing him for 1 more year before handing the reigns to McCown or finding a younger, better alternative in free agency. There's a reason they haven't given him the money. They don't want to.

7:37pm, May 13, 2008

cremdonado

Give Garsizzle the money.....HELL NO ! 7 million a season ?What is he smoking ?!Thats foolish. Hey Jeff- 7 million a year QBs don't make stupid opening drive plays that get them knocked out of the line up for weeks!!! Especially when your team is pushing for the playoffs. You are a vet,you are supposed to know better. Pay him the mil from his contract from last year and give him another 1.5 on top his current salary and call it a day.Thats 4.5 mil for one season with an option to extend. Hes a band aid,journeyman-a gun for hire. You signed a contract,honor it.Bucs could up the incentives to 3 mill-get us to the playoffs,reach your contract goals and get 7.5 for a year of your trouble. Sounds good to me.Sizzler-just be happy you are throwing for a good team behind a good line.Chase the cash,and you will get paid back in spades...Go Bucs-with or without garsizzler.....

9:24pm, May 13, 2008

Buc Wylde

Garcia and 7 mil a year don't even belong in the same sentence. As much wood that may get tossed around for statements like that, so be it. IF he chooses to sit, start the #2. We're building our team right now, not competing for the bowl. We've got two years ahead of us to continue to build and make a solid team. Are we all forgetting that 09 brings a lot of contracts due? We need WR's, RB's and help on defense. We could take some lumps and find out if we have our future QB on the roster if he opts to hold out or sit. Not a bad position to be in as far as I am concerned.

9:25pm, May 13, 2008

cremdonado

Its obvious our offensive system doesnt call for cream of the crop QBs(Bad Johnson,Griesman,garsizzler,Dimms,and Grads all stink!)If the REST of the guys out there do their respective jobs,this offense runs itself. Problem is that our WR DONT catch,our RBs DONT run !!! Those are the positions we need the cream of the crop!!! Decent talent at those positions brought us a Superbowl ring-AND that was with Bad Johnson!!!!Let Garsizzler go if hes unhappy-Greisman can step on in if our WRs & RBs are doin their jobs.Its the system,not the QB-its the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,not the Tampa Bay Garsizzlers! Know your role!

9:38pm, May 13, 2008

buc4life76

i think gracia deserves a raise but if he sit out of training camp let him go remeber greise he left 4 $ look his back in tampa knows the system!! right know we need a leader 2 emergewho ever it may b!!! EG did run d ball good last but it was a reason why he was 3rd rb on the chart. he is getting older +i am a gator fan but it looks like he got a PIRANA AS AN AGENT there is nothing secure so why sit out i do not understand we gave him a chance when no one would (if so he wood have hit free agency a lonnnnnng time ago) what i am saying is u want $ go to work if not opt out of your contract,i like eg style of runner but do not forget were u come from! LETS GO TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

10:58pm, May 13, 2008

BuccanAy

Garcia is taking us NOWHERE!! He won't last thru the first 3 games before he's injured. Give McCown the reps NOW, he will take us much farther than Garcia ever will. Garcia talks like he's been here for years. Retire already or play, but don't start demanding jack$#!%!

11:58pm, May 13, 2008

Buc-Up

Give Garcia the money he was allegedly promised, but that's it. Odds are that he'll miss 1/4 to 1/2 of the games due to injuries, so paying him $3-5 million/yr is about right. On the field he gives it his heart and soul to the team, but he sure sounds like a MESHAWN off of it!

3:21am, May 14, 2008

sumosam

He came in and proved himself to be a good player here. He is a starting QB in the NFL, one of only 32 in the world. Pay the man according to value among his peers. If the man is underpayed, it will resonate in his head and he will under perform.

6:15am, May 14, 2008

Aidan

While I appreciate what he did for the team last year, I do not think he's worth 7 million a year. He's probably the oldest starting NFL QB right now and his sometimes reckless play combined with his age will eventually lead to injuries. His age is taking a toll, no matter if he agrees with it or not. He should be happy to still have a starting job with decent (albeit not great) pay.
Does he deserve the 1 million he missed out on last year? Definitely, give him the million! But just say no to a big-money long-term contract.

7:58am, May 14, 2008

BucsRunSht

Ernest Graham needs to STFU about his contract. Nobody put a gun to his head and made him sign for what he did. He's a backup that went in when the starters went down. That's what a backup is supposed to do. You want a new contact? Get an agent that's willing to WORK WITH THE TEAM.

I love Jeff Garcia, but none of these guys would be crying about their contracts if we didn't have $47 million in cap room laying around to start the offseason.

9:17am, May 14, 2008

bucfan47

Alright fellas. I understand your outlook on this whole Garcia debate. How much should he be paid? Well, if you look at numbers, he deserves to get paid alot. He finished with the 6th highest QB rating in the NFL last year.

The problem is for how long. I think the Bucs want to pay him what he's worth, but it's trying to gauge how many more years Garcia wants to play.

Say what you want about his age, but the fact is he's outperforming every QB on the roster and he's solid. That says something about him. I've never worried about age, that's crazy. Most guys that get on here are relatively young I would guess and a 38-year old QB isn't very appealing to anyone. I understand that. But c'mon, the man made some tremendous plays last season and he's one hell of a QB. That's the bottom line about him.

Once this deal gets worked out (and I do believe it will), I firmly believe he'll come out of this deal happy and get the money he deserves in the end. Which will probably be centered around performance incentives with about 4-5 million in guarenteed money. I would guess 2-3 years on the length. That's fair. Those deals just take time to work out the details.

I still can't get over why the Bucs chose to sign Garcia after the draft. Was it intentional? Did they actually plan from Day 1 to sign Garcia after the draft? I firmly believe they held the cards on signing him and could have signed him for much less if they inked the deal prior to the draft.

Unless of course, they had intentions all along of paying him big money. I strongly feel the Bucs are in a position now where they will indeed, over-pay him somewhat.

11:24am, May 14, 2008

stone1

f--k garcia and graham they are both average, i mean we were only 9-7 last year. yeah garcia plays well in the system but his arm isn't the strongest and we have six more qbs and none of them are really above average if you truly and truthfully look at it. as for graham rbs who gain 800 yds with longest runs under thirty yards are a dime a dozen bennet, dunn, and darby can handle the load till caddy is back.bottom line is garcia is 38 maybe 2 more years maybe also slightly built one good lick and hes done(bledsoe and aikman hits and hes not coming back, I think my kids ten year old qb would have gotten up and played in the redskin game not even a clean hit sat garcia for five games.graham good season good backup not really a 1500 yard rusher.final point aren't these guys under contract for this year, if so quit crying and play.if team chemistry is so important to jeff why don't he just play i think seven mil over two years quite the paycheck guit whining

12:52pm, May 14, 2008

drt1066

The Bucs screwed Garcia out of a bonus by sitting him on the bench. Give him that money. Figure out what the average salary is for the Probowl quarterbacks and alternates. Give that to Garcia this year with an option next year.
He is good for at least two years unless injured.

1:04pm, May 14, 2008

buc77

i think Garcia should be awarded a new contract with a signing bonus equivalent to what he would have earned last year had he not been held out . however his new contract should be for no more base salary then his old contract but should have significant insentive bonuses. let him be rewarded for his play but just dont give him money because he supposedly out perfomed his old contract.

I believe the same should go for Graham.

1:17pm, May 14, 2008

dbcalpal

I agree, give Garcia the money due him for the games Gruden sat him down at the end of the season...
don

1:42pm, May 14, 2008

kysteve9

Seems to be a hot topic. I hadn't heard the 7-8 million number when I made the first comment in this string. That seems a bit high. However if he is owed money from being sat out last year we should pony up. I honestly was very dissapointed he didn't play and we went into the playoffs with a losing string. It would have been better if we had won and then had to use McKown and gotten beat.
However, he should get "decent" money for what he does. Give him a contract that rewards performance and if he fullfils it pay him. If not, well then we move on as we always seem to do.
I'm dissapointed in the whole hold out thing. These guys should be happy to have jobs. The way things are looking in the general economy there most likely will not be as much to go around very soon. Why can't people be happy with what they have and stop worrying about other's contract. Be fair, do the job, get paid, be happy.
I deal with the same issues in my business, truth is one man is not a team. No one is irreplaceable. Honor the contract, modify a new one, shut up and win some games.

GRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!! Just when I thought things were getting better and I could fly my flag with pride the crap starts again.

1:58pm, May 14, 2008

bucfan47

Stone - Don't agree man. He may be 38, but he's better than the other "6" QB's you point out are currently on the roster. I'll assume you're counting Plummer, who we know is not coming back. And two more guys will be traded or let go in Simms and Gradkowski.

That leaves three others to step-in for Garcia in Griese/McCown/Johnson.

I personally feel ok with Griese as a starting caliber QB for our team, but most Bucs fans do not. I do not feel confident in our ability to have success for 16 games if Garcia is not on the roster. Thus, my argument - Why didn't we sign him before the draft? If Garcia is willing to hold out until he gets a new deal, I think we Allen will end up paying him the money based on the fact our team would be entering next season with Griese as the starting QB (possibly McCown). That's scary.

He may be 38, but he's a damn good QB and he's consistent. They can ill-afford to not extend his deal.

2:11pm, May 14, 2008

Horse

The issue is not whether Garcia can still play, the issue is what is his value to play for us. Most of us think he should be paid a little more for the coming year, but after that "it''s a craps shoot".
Go Bucs

4:11pm, May 14, 2008

bucsince76

Great chatter everyone.Many opinions and valid points.To me a contract is a two way street.If he would have reached his bonus goals if he had played at the end of the season, then he should be paid by the Bucs.On the other side he knew how much his salary and signing bonus was before he signed the contract.I like the way Allen handles the contracts.Let's see how this plays out.Graham is making a big mistake in my opinon.Backs like him grow on trees.

9:40pm, May 14, 2008

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