Bucs QB Situation In Flux |
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Bucs quarterback Brian Griese injured his shoulder vs. the Broncos on Sunday (Getty) |
Tampa Bay Buccaneers head coach Jon Gruden updated the status of QB Brian Griese and the quarterback situation going ahead to the game against the Carolina Panthers. Bucs LB Barrett Ruud (knee) believes that he will play, and Gruden explained why the Bucs offense struggled against Denver.
"Brian Griese hurt his right arm. His elbow, and his shoulder, will be evaluated further today," said Gruden. "His status right now I would say is questionable.
"We're going to address the quarterback situation once we get all the facts. Obviously, health is going to be an issue. I thought Jeff did do some good things yesterday. His health has been an issue, and his return to health is something that we're excited about. We'll evaluate it today, and we'll let you know on Wednesday."
The Bucs offense struggled against the Broncos, who entered the game ranked 30th overall on defense. Griese and Garcia combined to 26-of-36 passes for 181 yards with one touchdown and one interception.
"Brian played pretty well. Jeff did pretty well," Gruden said. "Denver used some strange tactics yesterday. They've been a man-to-man team throughout the first month of the season. Yesterday, they rushed three [defensive linemen] 23 times. I thought under the circumstances, both quarterbacks did some good things. Obviously, field position - and we talked about the penalties yesterday and the sacks that we had - hurt us. Both guys did some decent things."
Tampa Bay averaged only seven yards per pass attempt against the Broncos. Gruden highlighted that Denver was dropping eight defenders into coverage routinely on Sunday. He was asked if that affected their passing production.
"Yeah, it does affect the yards per pass," Gruden said. "There are not a lot of places to throw the ball when there is eight [defenders] in coverage. But I thought we did do some good things throwing the ball. Unfortunately, we had a couple of big plays called back and we had some sacks and things of that nature with the penalties hurt us. It hurt us big time.
"If there are eight guys in coverage, it's a zone. It's two deep [with the safeties]. The middle linebacker, as you know in the Tampa 2, is deeper than the two safeties and there are five [defenders] underneath. There are not a lot of throwing lanes. We only have five eligibles. There were some times that we had some looks. Maybe we didn't see them down the field. They have a pretty good pass rush. [Denver defensive end Elvis Dumervil] was a problem yesterday. Anytime you throw the ball against a three-man rush, every route you have will be contested. It's a loaded coverage. It's something you don't see in a normal football game more than four or five times - let alone 23."
With Griese throwing six interceptions in his previous two games before Sunday's game in Denver, Garcia was elevated to the backup quarterback and the Buccaneers had to turn to him when Griese went down. It was the first appearance for Garcia since the season opener at New Orleans. In the three games between his game action Garcia was the third string emergency quarterback. Garcia battled injuries throughout training camp and the preseason.
"He's gotten better," Gruden said. "It's been difficult. Obviously, he was a key part of our team last year and he missed the entire training camp. Not some of it - all of it, really. He's had the calf injury, the ankle injury and the pinky injury and it's hurt him. With our observations of him on the practice field, we've seen more and more of Jeff Garcia lately. I thought he went in there late in the game yesterday and moved around and made some creative plays that we are accustomed to seeing. That's good. I think he does feel better. I think he is ready to play and we'll address that on Wednesday. I don't have a crystal ball here, but I think the signs are positive and I'm excited about that."
RUUD THINKS HE WILL PLAY
In addition to Griese, middle linebacker Barrett Ruud left the game with an injured knee. Gruden labeled Ruud's status as questionable, but Ruud sounded more optimistic.
"I think I'll be fine, it is a day-by day thing," said Ruud. "Hopefully it feels better day-by-day, but I think I'll be fine.
Ruud indicated that he did have an MRI that revealed nothing wrong with this knee. He said he fell on the play and that it was a freak play. Ruud said he characterized the knee injury as a sprain. Ruud was asked if thinks he will play this week against Carolina.
"I think so yeah," said Ruud. "Like I said it is a day-by-day thing. I feel like I should be (ready)."
Last season, Ruud had some nagging injuries that caused Tampa Bay to rest him late in the season after the Bucs had clinched the division title. Bucs linebacker Derrick Brooks has been playing with a pulled hamstring since the first week of the season. Brooks was held out of a number of practices in order to be ready for game action, although he is now back to practicing his customary one day per week. Ruud was asked if he would be eligible to be in a similar status even though he does not have the years of experience that Brooks does.
"Well, I did some of that last year," said Ruud. "I had a little bit of a knee thing last year. I had a few weeks where I didn't do a whole lot of practicing either. If that is the case you just got to get your mental reps and spend some more time in the film room. Sometimes that is what you got to do. Some of the older veterans are guys that practice only on Friday. You do what you have to do to get out there."
Replacing Ruud in the game was linebacker Adam Hayward. In training camp and the preseason Hayward showed the ability to play middle and outside linebacker. Gruden was pleased of the job that Hayward did in Ruud's place.
"Obviously, Matt [McCoy] has been in and out of activity in terms of the game day activations because of our injuries," Gruden said. "Adam Hayward is taking the bulk of the middle linebacker reps because of that. Given the fact that he's repped it, he's the guy that went in.
"He did some good things. That's a tough spot, but he did do some good things. We're encouraged by him. He's got some versatility to play inside and out and in the mixed downs. It was positive."
QUOTE OF THE DAY
Gruden was asked why the Bucs did not take a shot at the end zone at the end of the first half when they had the ball at the Denver 17-yard line with one timeout. Tampa Bay audibled to a run due to Denver showing an all-out blitz according to Gruden. Running back Warrick Dunn ran for four yards on the play and the Bucs settled for a field goal.
"We felt good about what we got done on that drive, and the fact that were seeing a lot of loaded coverages, we wanted to get the field goal for sure," Gruden said. "We knew we had the ball to start the second half. That's the way we played that situation."
QUOTE OF THE DAY II
Gruden was asked about the team missing veteran wide receiver Joey Galloway, who is out with an ankle injury, and what is the prognosis for Galloway.
"When you see a defense like that in third-and-2, third-and-8 and third-and-10 passing situations when you are getting a three-man rush. You could have Houston McTere come in here and you'd still have a hard time getting downfield. We miss Galloway. I'm not going to sugar coat it. He's had three straight 1,000-yard seasons and led the NFL in yards per catch last year. That's a key guy that we're missing.
"I don't know when he's going to be ready. To speculate is unfair to our fans. I know he ran yesterday with our assistant training staff. He's feeling better. He's closing in on a return. Whether it's Carolina, Seattle, Dallas or after the bye, I don't know. We miss him."
Comments
burke757
A couple points...
1. If denver was dropping 8 men into coverage so much... why on earth are they trying to pass the ball? why not run it? the running game was averaging more yards per play then the passing game. this does not make any sense!
2. The fact that gruden feels good about the audible to a run right before half - when only a pass into the end zone makes sense - shows his trust in his qb, or lack thereof. When are we going to get a decent qb in here? that is playing not to lose instead of playing to win. the offense did just enough to to lose yesterday. how can you expect to win when you put up 13 points? pathetic!
4:20pm, October 6, 2008
kysteve9
I would say disappointed is an understatement on the way I feel. Holding Denver to 16 points should have generated a victory.
AS to who is QB, doesn't really seem to matter. Dink and dunk should be completed by Barrett Ruud. Sorry, frustrated.
Whatever we will HAVE to pick it up and move forward or next week will be a disaster. Delhomme is on fire and we need something to slow him down. We slowed down Denver we can slow down Carolina. But we HAVE to score TD's in the RED zone.
Sunday is done and gone. Let's move on and win the next 3.
We never seem to travel well outside of our division. No idea why, but it's a fact. Forget Sunday and go forward. We played a good QB who made no mistakes and took what we gave him. Defense didn't do a terrible job, but offense well we have 3 GOOD RB's. Enough said.
We have lost 2 games by a total of 7 points. Could easily be 5-0, nothing to hang our heads about, just figure out how to score one more TD per game and away we go.
GO BUCS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! get over it and move on.
4:36pm, October 6, 2008
Horse
kysteve9, I am right with you. What we didn't do in the draft and off season can be addressed after the season. Right now is where we need to at. All the complaining doesn't help.
We have to find a way to show the other Teams Defense that we can throw down field so they will not put 8 men up front. I really think our problem RIGHT NOW is QB, not Gruden. The QB's can't get it down field. Some of these guys are open, but the QB's won't throw to them because they just don't have the arm strength nor the confidence to do so.
We are still in this season and can make it to the playoffs. Lighten up, it's to early to be doom and gloom.
Go Bucs! Play Harder!
4:49pm, October 6, 2008
surferdudes
What game was gruden watching when he say's both Q.B.'s did some good things today? Talk about rose colored glasses Garcia finally got them in the end zone against prevent. griese was horrible, he didn't throw a pick instead upting for the sacks, nice job. Playing for the tie before half was gutless.Gruden seemed confused by the cover two defense he hadn't seen them do a film before. Don't you see that coverage in practice every day? Maybe Gru needs to call the plays from the booth so he can see the field beter, or how about an offensive cordinater calling the plays for you. Jon you're losing your edge.
5:26pm, October 6, 2008
sanders9759
Garshea did great. He throws a pick . At least Gilmore got it back. I guess Garshea wanted to show Gruden he could throw them too and maybe he would be left as the starter. START McCown. At least give him a chance. And remember all we have to do is score 20 points and the win is in the bag. At least I have seen it written in comments all season so far.
6:04pm, October 6, 2008
intrepid88
I'm all for giving Cool Hand Luke his shot, can't get any worse. If I remember correctly, he "did some good things" last year....he's probably got the strongest arm on the team...get going.
7:12pm, October 6, 2008
paramount91
Shocker!!!! Dink and dunk? That is what are offense is by design. Let's not forget about a couple plays. Jerramy Stevens was wide open and just overthrown by Griese, a couple holds by #65 on big gains , and without Askew ( blocking tight end) our running game was flat. We also are missing Galloway so we have no real deep threat other than Bryant? However, that return game has to be better with a second round pick???? That said we did shut down one of the best O's in their barn .....something to think about ??? Should have picked DeSean Jackson I guess??
8:31pm, October 6, 2008
TD_Johnny
I think Mike Shula hijacked the offense yesterday. That could be why Garcia had to change helmets.
8:32pm, October 6, 2008
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11:40pm, October 6, 2008
cremdonado
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11:42pm, October 6, 2008
djthumper123
holding #1 offense to under 20 points...cutler only throwing for 227 when hes been averaging over 300, takin brandon marshall out of the game,and only losing by 3 isnt to bad in my eyes...plentys once again played a big part in this lose...we just need to step it up...the saints losing makes the carolina game oh so more important...so lets keep our heads up ....this year is far from being over yall....GO BUCS!!!!!!
1:52am, October 7, 2008
kysteve9
Well gentlemen we caught a freat break last night. NO self distructed. All we have to do know is figure a way to stop Delhomme and win and we are back in the thick of it.
You know looking at the South division it is rather improved and tough. I don't think all those high paid sportscasters are giving the South any credit. They keep hyping the East but we'll see.
AS to QB, well maybe, just maybe it is time to give LUKE a game. Problem is if he blows it we will be 2 back. Since we can't see practice etc. hard to make a call on that one. All I do know is he is capable.
At least we aren't looking at Gradowski or Simms (cut by TITANS and homeless), Be thankful for small favors.
GO BUCS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
8:14am, October 7, 2008
tjones
horse your right on the money.
go bucs
10:07am, October 7, 2008
kennys
did anybody really think before the season started they beat the Broncos? I had them 2-3 after the 5 games and losing to the Panthers, so not really a surprise that the Bucs lost and will lose Sunday against the Panthers
12:36pm, October 7, 2008
aaronmay
I don't know how good the D played Sunday. Denver shut their offense down.
Don't you get the feeling that other teams know that we need our D to create turnovers to have a chance to win.
I think ur going to see other teams shut their offenses down and make our offense beat them. If we can't run against an 8 man front we're in trouble.
11:11am, October 8, 2008
aaronmay
I meant 3 man front
11:12am, October 8, 2008
intrepid88
Yeah, that boggles the mind, why Gruden won't run, run, run....play-action and roll-outs kill'em...look at what Denver did almost every play. Maybe with Garica back in we can start to rollout again! Hit Bryant or DJack deep for once.
1:45pm, October 8, 2008
intrepid88
...and again, GET BENNET in there at returns and WR...reggie bush-style!
1:46pm, October 8, 2008
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