We waited too long...
If they really wanted him, they would have signed him.
Sign Phillips...

GUYS - any thoughts on Roy Williams? I remember when he first came into the league he was one of the best, now he's thought of as soft. Might just be the cowboys system since then?

Ivy and Fletcher.. I don't too much care for them as our only options.. hope they aren't..

WOWWWW, just great.

better sign Phillips now or we're really going to be screwed.

Two years 8.5 million?? What are the BUCS thinking??? That is chump change for a starting CB. Why would they let P-Buc get away for that amount of money? It is not like the BUCS did not have the cap space. Bad move letting P-Buc get away. Can I get a refund on my club seats? Next year is going to be ugly!!!

sign Pacman for the minimum! WTH?

Morris is high on Mack. P-Buc is better suited for zone coverage and doesn't fit in to the press coverage we'll be playing next year. Not a total shocker.

I'm not a PBuc fan. I'm glad we didn't sign him back, but now we are thin at CB and will need to draft a CB....hopefully one that is taller than 5'11".

I do hope we sign Phillips back. I don't care if he starts or Piscatelli starts, we need him for depth. He might not want to come back if he feels Piscatelli will be the starter and he will be the back up.

This is one move Where i dont know what happened. P-buc loves coach Morris why couldnt he wait it out and re-sign? we need to find a corner who can play good man to man defense. Whats goin on with us man we lost out on D. Henderson too. I just hope we have a plan in place because now im getting confused but i will stay patient.

1bucfanjeff,

I agree PBuc did not fit the more physical defensive scheme, niether does Mack. He is like 5'10" and 175 lbs. I was really hoping we signed Bryant McFadden....hopefully we can get a CB in the 3rd that is 6 ft or taller. These little guys are good for Nickle packages and blizting, but with WRs and TEs averaging 6'1" - 6'6".....5'10" just doesn't cut it anymore.

Wow - this actually shocked me. I really thought there was noc chance they would let PBuc slip away. Very bad move because this leaves the Bucs completely unsettled on all three phases of the defense. To think they could have had him at 2 years and 9 mill is unheard of. What exactly were they offering him during all of those contract renegotiations.

Now rather than focus on the dline in the draft - CB is a serious need. Barber has one good year left at best. Rather than having a starting duo of Talib and Pbuc, with Barber at the Nickel and Mack at the dime the Bucs have zero depth at the position. Same situation with LB. Same situation with Dline. There are not enough draft picks to supplement that.

This definitely points to a free agent signing at CB in the next week.

Dline - Gaines, White, Peterson, Moore, Hovan, Wilkerson, and Sims.

LBs - Ruud, Hayes, Black, Hayward, McCoy, and now Koutouvides.

CB - Talib, Barber, Mack, and Cox.


We are definitely short at CB clairvoyantent1, but we have plenty of depth at LB and on the Dline. We need to upgrade our starters sure, but depth is not a problem.

Elbert Mack is listed as 5'10" 168 lbs.......can that really be right? This guy is my size, how can he hope to defend NFL top recievers that are well over 6 ft? Seriously....if that info is right, this dude is not only short, but very scrawny.

I bet we get a CB in the 3rd. I like Morgan Trent out of Michigan.

I 'm really not too upset by this...

I know the D line got little or no pressure last season and you can't cover WR & TE for 8,9+ seconds, but that freaking TD to go into the half against the cowboys really pissed me off.

if he is not in zone forget about it, I know Roy is a big guy, but everyone wacthing that game new where the ball was going.
Pbuc should've knocked his but into the locker room.

They don' score that TD they don't win that game.

Against the chargers didn't he play horribly too? By that point in the season I couldn't tell if it was him or Barber, they both played badly...

Jdub

I just can't trust these Big 10 guys. They play antiquated football.

I really like these speedy hard hitting guys from SEC, or ACC even some of the Big 12 guys like Talib...

Buchannan was toasted repeatedly last season. The last four games they picked on him so much and with such great success that they could have been charge with grand theft.

Sign one. Draft one or trade for one.

God Damn it. I knew this was going to happen. Like LJS4th said, we can easily afford to pay him 8.5 over 2 years. To not make that signing is unacceptable. Elbert Mack my ass. I'm fully expecting to see a similar article in the next few days regarding Phillips. Good thing Dominik has been spending his days making top flight signings like Niko Koutivides and Mike Nugent, and negotiating with Jerramy Stevens, a 4th TE for our roster. No need to do things like resigning quality defensive starters from last year (Buchanon, Phillips).

And, why have we completely forsaken our defense? Not 1 defensive signing so far in free agency, other than a LB who is nothing more than a special teams contributor? And resigning Will Allen, who is also primarily a ST player. What about a starting linebacker (Bart Scott, Angelo Crowell), or D-Line (Well Haynesworth obviously, but aside from that, we had plenty of time to sign Rocky Bernard and Chris Canty).

It's clear that we are making a shift from a defensive team, to an offensive one. We're clearly in a rebuilding mode, and to rebuild, means to BRING IN NEW PLAYERS, both through the draft and free agency. So what do we do? We release many of our top defensive players (under the guise of getting younger and more athletic), then we don't bring anyone in to replace them. Then we don't resign our top defensive FA's (Buchanon and Phillips). Then we trade away our second round pick this year for a TE who is an "upgrade" (on paper, but can't stay healthy or out of trouble or out of the headlines).

I am not impressed so far with the "new direction" of the Bucs. So very disappointing. I think the PR article a few days ago regarding why the Bucs FA process has been moving so slowly (IE: the fact that we have basically no front office left. Dominik and his secretary are doing the same job themselves, that previously belonged to Gruden/Allen/Demitroff/Dominik/D.Williams/and other assistants combined. And the fact that they are farming out the contract work to a local law firm, because there are no in house people who are familiar with the process), is very telling. It says that the Glazers are cheap, and sneaky #ucks. Rather than coming out and saying that they don't want the coach/GM to spend money aquiring players (which would make them look like bad owners), they just fire the whole front office so that no work CAN be done, there just isn't enough manpower. This way, they can say "we did all we could under the circumstances, blah blah blah...". After they waited suspiciously long after the season ended to fire Gruden/Allen, they said the reason it took so long was that they "didn't want to make an emotional decision", and they "wanted to talk to players and fans and see what the feeling was". It's now clear to me that they did it so that there would not be time to assemble a staff that could properly tackle free agency, so therefore we would not wind up spending very much of our league high cap availablilty on player salaries, so that they can continue to pay off their MAN U debt.

Having owners that own another franchise (even if it is in another sport, and in another country), is the worst. They must view the 2 teams as 1 combined entity, let's call it "their overall business bottom line". If 1 team is doing poorly financially, they can phone it in and not really attempt to be competitive with the other team, to attempt to recoop the money they are losing from financially weak team, thus improving "their overall business bottom line". Well, Bucs fans don't give a $hit about MAN U. We shouldn't have to suffer as a result of some god damned soccer team doing poorly. This should be viewed by the league as a conflict of interest. You should not be able to own an NFL team, if you own another professional sports team, we could call it the "Glazer Rule". Let's get Eddie DeBartolo on the horn, he's said that he would purchase the team if it were for sale. He doesn't have some POS soccer team weighing him down, and he will definitely pay to put a winner on the field (see the 1990's 49ers).

If you read this whole post, thanks for taking the time. I get a bit carried away at times.

I don't put to much stock in where a player played his college ball or even what he did in college, and that goes for any position. I think you go after guys that are athleticly and mentally gifted, and also have that drive and love for the game. I think teams like New England and the Steelers are very good at scouting this way and that is why they have great teams.

Athletic + Intelligent + High Motor = High Potential no matter where you are from. Good players can be coached into great players if they have these traits......and great coaches. :)

I'm not so sure the Bucs wanted P-buc back - I'm not going to 2nd guess these professionals until after the season.

There is a lot of football experience on this coaching staff that made the decision to not bring him back - like everyone else on this site I hope its the right decision.

I think no matter what you think of the new coach or GM, you gotta give them 2 off seasons, and two regular seasons before you can fairly determine if they are doing a good job. These guys that post on here ranting and raving just crack me up. Like we are gonna rebuild into a younger more physical team in less than 2 months? Give these guys a freakin chance.

I'm not a believer in Rheem yet. I hope he can make me a believer this seaon. I am a Dom fan though. I think he has done a great job so far. I have faith that he will make the right moves to fufill thier vision of this team.

We gotta sign Phillips and bring in Sean Jones...if we do this we're set.....Jabari Greer is gone!

Clearly the FO feels that the Tim Wansley experiment just wasn't given enough time...

How can you say Dom has done a good job? I have more faith in Raheem at this point than Dominick. He has been schooled in FA. He lost out on Haynesworth, Scott. Embarrassed himself when he tried to make a trade for Cutler when Casel was already moved. And he cut all of our starters. He lets guys with good character go and signs players with questionable character. This guy is a joke and should have been better prepared. All I've heard is these guys bleed pewter and red.. Really I don't think anyone bled it better than brooks. Say what you want about the old regime but they knew how to run a football team.

We wanted Vilma and Haynesworth, but it just didn't work out. Other than that, who should we have signed? We the fans all have our opinions, but we aren't running the show. We aren't rebuilding a team with a specific idea in mind. I think we didn't sign guys like Boley or Scott, cause they didn't fit what this regime wants to do. You either have faith or you don't. Some of you have already decided Dom is an idiot after two whole months. Myself, I'll give the new regime time and see what they can do.

I look at it as we are one QB away from having a potentially stellar offense....that is good. We are taking this year to let our young guys play and compete to see what we have in house. It might end up all our young 2nd string guys are nothing more than back ups, or it might turn out that the next Brooks will get his chance next year. I like the approach and I hope we find some gems on our own roster. Next off season we will have a much better idea of our true weaknesses on defense. Noone has seen Quincy Black or Geno Hayes start for a 16 game season, so noone can fairly say that we are hurting at LB. Same goes for Greg Peterson and Elbert Mack. Dre Moore might explode on the scene this year when forced into a more consistant role. I'm excited to see if anyone steps up to challenge and I give the new regime kudos for having the balls to go this route.

I can tell you for sure there is no Brooks in the group of linebackers we currently have on the roster. Hoping for something just doesn't excite me too much. IMO I do not like the moves the new gm has made so far. I was really hoping their plan was going to create some excitement and after major changes in coaches, gm and veteran players being cut we really needed a big splash to get the excitement back and I just don't think Dominick knew what he was doing and that really cost us. But who knows. If i'm wrong and I hope I am I'll be the first to admit it.. Scott Reynolds had some telling info that really opened up my eyes.

"I can tell you for sure there is no Brooks in the group of linebackers we currently have on the roster"

Really? I call bullshit. You can't tell me that cause you just don't know.

You've made up your mind and there is no changing it. Sounds like the only way you'd be happy is if we would have signed $100 Haynesworth. One man does not make a great team. Your choosing to not be excited. Do great teams like the Patriots, Steelers, or Giants make big splash signings in FA every year? No. They build great teams over time thru the draft and only use FA to fill holes. All I can say is have a little patience and stop thinking you know everything.

Fact: Our Offense is solid. We need a franchise Qb to step up and lead us, but all other peices are in place. Resigning Jeremy Stevens and another WR would be nice, but not a must.

Fact: We have a good young core on defense with Ruud, G. Adams, Talib, T. Jackson, and Piscatelli.

I just really don't get all the doom and gloom.

Met Man U soccer player on a trip last week. Googled him. He has a huge deal. He agreed. Glazers are sending the money to England. Lets see if they max the cap. They probably will be 20 million under. What up? Makes me want to skip out on the season tickets permanantly. One more year of an average team, low salary cap and a bad economy will not be good for our city. And it is about our community! I hope the Glazers dont underpay, make profits and sell the team. Just smells like that to me.

I'm guessing you weren't around during the Culverhouse days. It's not doom and gloom it's just how I see it. I don't know why all of sudden after adding two players and still no QB (a big piece to the puzzle) that our offense is all of sudden going to be great. I can tell you the new offensive coach is no Gruden so I'm just not as optimistic as you are. Like I said I hope I'm wrong but I know there are a lot that feel the same way.

we're screwed..

And JDouble: No way I give them two seasons to win. Heck no. No way. Keep Gruden if that's the case. Keep a close eye on who the Bucs sign the next few weeks. Max the cap and give us a chance or save the twenty million and ad a decent mid fielder to Man U. All true my friend.

Your right. Jags is no Gruden.....Thank God!

The new downhill zone blocking scheme might give us a real running game for the first time since the good ol' days of thunder & lightning. Especially with Graham and Ward, not to mention Clifton Smith. That isn't exciting?

Then you have a vertical attack instaed of the 5 yard dink and dunk system. With big elite targets like Bryant and Winslow....that isn't exciting?

Like I said before, if your not excited, it's by choice.

I'm sorry to be rude, but you guys demanding we max the cap are idiots. Why max the cap and sign players that don't fit what we want just to sign them? You guys would put us right back in the hole we were in before Allen got here. Did you ever stop to think we might need to sign some FAs next year? or more importantly sign our own guys to long contracts? All are defensive starters with exception to Gaines Adams and A. Talib, are making less than a million per year. Once we sign Ruud, and Jackson and Piscatelli to long term deals we will need that cap room. Spending it just cause it's there is just ignorant.

I will tell you this. Our offense last year was one of the best offenses we've had (yardage wise). If Garcia was half way decent in the red zone it would have been the best scoring offense ever in Tampa. I want the Bucs to do good as much as anybody but just saying your going the throw the ball down the field doesn't just automatically happen. If it was that easy everyone would do it. I agree dink and dunking was boring at times but you better hope our offensive line is as good as advertised cause they will be tested. This is a whole new scheme and there is no guarantee they will pick it up not to mention with going vertical our sacks are going way up if we are not up to par.

who's talking about the cap? I don't think we should just sign anyone or throw our money away. If your worried about the cap then complain about overpaying for Clayton. He can block and plays with aggression but is not worth the money. Signing who's your momma would have been a splash move.

If you read the other posts in this thread there are people demading we spend all of our cap money....I wasn't refering to you Fin.

Reality is I don't see the talent coming in that's going to make the competitive difference. I guess the brass must think its already there or maybe threesixsuited has a point. With the way things are going I think were gonna need a lot of finds like Hicks to make a run next year. This could be ugly: (

Watch. 20 million under again and Man U will thrive again. It is just a good business decision. More cash over seas. Man U is the cash cow of organized sports. The Bucs are second tear. It's a fact JDouble.

The Bucs resurrected Buchanon's career after Oakland and Houston had given up on him. This is how he repays them. The cover 2 defense hid his weaknesses. I think he was afraid to go back into bump and run coverage where he was toasted on a regular basis. Bucs fans' don't cry over spilt milk. I Hope Detroit stays in cover 2 or Phillip will be looking for work again.

Buchanon is alright but he had a most of a week and ended up with basically a minimum deal these days (for someone under 30 who gets on the field). The good corners all cashed in $7mil/per and he got 4. That says it all.

We can't get to the cap because noone is left that's worth it and we have our best players to re-up in the next few years. What if McCown is good...$7-10 mil, Trueblood $6, Joseph $7, T Jax $5, Penn or replacement $5+, 1st rounder $4?. It will add up fast by next year's free agency. (Disclaimer: I made these numbers up and don't know when these guys deals are up, but I bet i'm pretty close on their eventual values).

PS- Does anybody really know anything about MAN U? Last time I checked they are winning everything! That means they are literally raking in $$$. It's not like NFL where every team shares the same pot. The more they win the more money they make. It will be time to worry if they ever have a down year! Maybe we should stop complaining about them and go buy a jersey (J/K) !!! But the thought of the Glazer's saving $20 mil to send to MAN U is hilarious. In euro soccer, players are bought and sold, not traded, and that would barely even buy a single starter for them. In fact they were offered 100 million POUNDS for Christiano Renaldo 6 months ago and turned it down because... they don't need the money! Selling him would cover the entire salary cap of the Bucs for almost 2 years!

When you snooze you lose. I hope they take some wake up pills and at least try to hold onto Jermaine Phillips. I know we are pretty good at safety but we still need Flip's intensity and leadership. He can still play. Cornerback is starting to look like a real big concern and I hope we can address that need. I think that Mack given the chance can be a good corner. I know he is intense and will knock your head off. Also I think cutting loose those five veterans really did a lot of damage to the Bucs image. Now they are going to have to employ damage control and re-establish a positive image so that other players want to come to Tampa . We still have a lot of voids to fill especially on defense. At this point it looks like we are officially in a rebuilding mode.

Can anybody tell me why some people just don't understand that the Glazers cannot use the money from the Buccaneers franchise for Manchester United. I would like to reach through this computer and just smack some people and wake them up. The NFL said NO! They told the Glazers that they could not co-mingle funds. I guess some people just don't understand, or they would just rather have something to complain about then to be optomistic about the team. It's the NFL man, you never know, any given Sunday! So many doubt McCown, when they probably screamed for him last year during the Atlanta game. Give the kid a chance, K2 is excited to play with him and if we resign Stevens who is one of his favorite targets he is going to be in good shape. We will see, but I have a feeling this year could be fun to watch.

I agree on Buchanon not really being a good fit here anymore. Two players that I think would be a better fit are Leigh Bodden and Bryant McFadden. BOTH players are bigger than PBuc and I believe have much better man coverage and bump and run skills. I really like Bodden. He is 6'1'' and 193lbs and I think he is a very PHYSICAL cornerback who would fit into our new style of play.

GO BUCS ! ! !

With all respect, it is a little naive to think that the Glazers could not easily get around some commingling prohibition set by the NFL. In case you have not noticed, there has been an endless stream of questionable practices committed by executives everywhere, including huge companies that are household names. The recession we are now in is, in large measure, due to that corruption. Hello??

I am not accusing the Glazers of any wrongdoing, because I have no financial information. All I see are bad decisions and crappy results.

I would like to see some of the Glazers' financials regarding the Bucs and Manchester United. Are they publicly available? If the Bucs were a publicly traded entity, they would have to make their financials available. I have no idea what the NFL and English soccer league rules are on public disclosure of owners' money.

I think that is a good homework assignment for a good investigative reporter somewhere.

I second Tomsan's notion. Here's the thing - this recession is going to end at some point, be it in a few months or when the damage is undone by the next Congress that was done by this one. The people that have put themselves in a good position during this time will be carried along with the recovery. If the Glazers can stay solvent right now, they have the ideal feather in their cap for if/when Kraft, Jerry Jones and Snyder decide to kill the salary cap in 2010 - the most lucrative sports franchise in Europe. There's no way the Bucs could compete otherwise. I understand what they are doing long-term - I'm just afraid that the short-term ramifications are too much of a gamble.

I agree with LordJim - the whole "Reagan Revolution" philosophy has bankrupted this nation.

Geez! I can't believe all of this over losing a guy that is an average cornerback. The Bucs have been very successful in finding cornerbacks in the third round of the draft in Donnie Abraham and Rhonde Barber and even safety John Lynch in the fourth. It appears that this draft will be leaning toward defense.

Don't you think that if his position coach thinks PBuc was expendable, he is. The same thing happened when BK went to Detroit. How'd that end up? I'm not saying Elbert Mack is the answer but he seems to be a more physical player in spite of his slight build.

Apparently our goal is to find the cheapest veteran cornerback in free agency. Almost there!! Gotta save some more money

Tomsan - "the whole 'Reagan Revolution' philosophy has bankrupted this nation." I hope you know more about NFL football than you do about economics and politics!
How about sticking to the Bucs. Let's rant, rave, and second guess about the Bucs. If I want political commentary, I'll go to a different web site.

It's funny you guys think 4.2 million a year is nothing. If we woulda signed PBuc to that deal, he would be our highest paid CB. It would also make him the 4th highest paid guy on our team. You think he is worth that?

Look folks, Ruud (1 mil), T. Jackson (350k), Talib (1.4 mil), Piscatelli (335k), Penn (780k), Joseph (1.7 mil) ALL of these guys contract is coming up and we will have to pay them in the $4-$9 million per year range. That takes up ALOT of cap space. Then there is Bryant. If he has another great year we will have to sign him to a real deal and pay big bucks. Then there are all the guys on defense that are going to get a shot at starting this year. If any of them pan out and earn their starter status, they have to get paid. Then there is our 1st rounder this year, and next year, and next years FAs......we DON'T need to spend every dime we have available right now.

tomsuc maybe you like the Obama communist revolution better but give me Reagan anytime. I wish Detroit would have gotten Clayton also. Anyone that thinks this D will be good has some rose colored glasses on, probably goes with their pink Tutu. This D needs a lot of help.

JDouble,
I agree with you on Mack, or any other corner. We need bigger (at least taller) DB to defend bigger WR's. Morris really likes him and we need depth.
IF we get some bigger DB's, I wouldn't be surprised if Barber gets cut. That said though, I'm not feelin' bigger DB's coming our way.

Hacksaw, IF the offense is good, it makes the defense better.

A lot of unknowns - let's see what happens in the draft and camp before we're too harsh.

JDouble - The offense under Gruden was not by design, a 5-yard dink-and-dunk offense. Garcia just bailed on it too often which resulted in many short passes. If you watched the tape, the playcalls were superb and guys (like Bryant) were open consistently downfield for big plays.

There was nothing wrong with Gruden's offense. The bottomline is our team was searching for QB and that hasn't changed through today.

The running game suffered last season due in-large part to Grahams injury, and will suffer again greatly if either he, or Ward goes down this season.

Finerdetailz - I'm with you. These guys don't really know what they're doing overall. There is no doubts in my mind they will be horrible this upcoming season.

It's not about wanting them to fail. It's about excepting whether or not we should totally rebuild, which I am 100% against, coming off a 9-7 season. If anything deserved to be revamped, it was the defense, and that's been totally neglected.

The Glazers have put Dominik in a hole, one that he may not be able to recover from, and given the FACT he didn't have time management on his hands during the start of free agency, we probabaly lost out on a handful of players that could have dramatically helped this team overall. Whether we did or not, the FACT Dominik must now enter the draft with this many holes to fill could put him too far behind to recover and MAY cost him his job in three years. After all, that could be the Glazers overall plan anyway. They honestly may not want them to succeed.

Remember, they are making more money by our team not spending money.

The dismantling of the Bucs defense continues.

I'll reserve judgement on this move until I see who Dominik finds to replace him. It does seem more and more like these guys actually have a decent plan in place. They just whiffed on Hayensworth.

Listen to yourselves..... How do you know what the Bucs offered. Myabe PBuc didnt want to come back. Pbuc is not that good or physical... we all know he was a nickel back forced to start... How many teams were trying to sign him?? That he settled for an 0-16 team for $4 million/yr. Come on think about it.

someone needs to shut Jdouble up. why dont you get a fucking life... you act like you know everything but you dont know shit

Wow. Did I hit a nerve Nick? Settle down buddy, it's just a forum about a game.

I love how many fans are so pessimistic about this team! If we kept all the starters we had where do you think we'd be next year???? Definitely not even close to 9-7! No matter what people say about Luke McKown, he is an instant upgrade over Garterbelt & Greaseslick hands down! Stronger arm, more accurate, more athletic & gutsier !People down him why? Because of his starting record? Please, most of his starts were with the suck ass Browns as a rook! Did you all see the Saints game in '07??? The int was Galloways fault but he is the one who threw the game winning td!!! The man completed his fist 15 passes & not dink & dunks, had like almost 200 yds passing by the half! Damn near out threw Galloway 60 yds out!!!Did you see his 32 yard naked bootleg in '06? Longest run for the team the entire year! Because of his propensity to hold on to the ball too long? With more starts & game experience that can be worked out but that is him not giving up on a play not knowing what to do! Against Dallas, Denver , Atlanta & Oakland I'd bet a $1000 that we would have won atleast 3 of those games because he has the balls to push the ball down the field not play scared & all those wide open receivers would have been tds!!! Now he has Bryant who now knows HE IS THE MAIN MAN!!!! Don't you think Cool Hand will be throwing the rock more to the man who can get open down field?Now he has Winslow who once he got past his imature off field antics showed what everybody thought he was......A PRO BOWL TIGHT END! When was the last time TB had a TE even mentioned in the same sentence as the PB??? We resign Stephens & who needs another receiver? Clayton I'm not sure of but if he can get back to his rookie form then I'll be a happy fan ! He's fearless baller & now that he's not stuck behind Hilliard he has that chance to! So give Luke a chance because Gruden sure as hell wouldn't!!!

Now with the running game how can you not be excited with Graham, Ward & Smith??? Graham proved he can score tds(10) in his 1st chance to start & that wasn't even a full season! Last year he already had 4 before going down. He ripped off the longest runs before that like 70 & 50 yarders ! What about Ward ? he was behind Jacobs and still ran for over a 1000 yds & he' supposed to be quicker & faster than Graham so those two in the backfield ??? Then Smith has proven what he can do on kick offs & punts . OMG I can only imagine what our ground game is going to be like with the zone blocking that we're going to use!!! All I know is defenses better watch out for us once this offense starts to click & this isn't wearing rosed colored glasses either its called optimsm because we will have an aggressive offense who will play to win not play not to lose! I won't care as much if the defense gives up 21 pts a game as long as this offens can score 35 points a game I

Haynesworth is over paid for a player with only one good season out of 5 & can't stay healthy. With $42 mil guaranteed what the hell does he have to prove or play for? No matter what he does he's paid ! Thats not a mercenary I want on this team! Atleast with his big pay days Sineon Rice still played hard till injuries did him in! The Redskins are desperate MORONS & deserve him !! Buchannon please!!! He got burned more than a college boy in a Tijajuana whore house! He's soft & and has hands of stone! I say put T Jack as the nickel corner & if we sign him Phillups next to Piscitelli. I do know this mgmt better go defense this entire draft. Our defense is going to struggle & probably outright suck at times but we should be able to rely on this offense after not too long then the youngins will have time to mature then start making their mark!!! Go Bucs !!!!

Amen!

AMEN!