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Bucs Release WR Jackson |
 Dexter Jackson joined Tampa Bay as a 2008 second-round draft pick (Cliff Welch) |
Tampa Bay released wide receiver Dexter Jackson Monday in order to trim its roster down to the NFL-mandated number of 75. A 2008 second-round pick, Jackson played in seven games for the Bucs and was sidelined in preseason with an ankle injury.
The Dexter Jackson experiment is officially over in Tampa Bay.
The Buccaneers released Jackson Monday in order to trim their roster down to the NFL-mandated number of 75 players.
Unfortunately for the Bucs, the experiment required a significant investment in the form of a 2008 second-round pick.
Jackson was the 58th overall player taken in the 2008 NFL Draft. He played collegiately at Appalachian State.
The 5-foot-9, 182-pound Jackson was drafted by former Bucs head coach Jon Gruden and general manager Bruce Allen to become a return specialist, a role he played at Appalachian State, but didn't necessarily excel in, evidenced by his 17.8-yard kickoff return average.
Jackson, who ran an impressive 4.27 40-yard dash time at the combine, struggled as a rookie, sustaining a serious hamstring injury in rookie mini-camp. He did, however, have an 83-yard punt return for a touchdown in a preseason game vs. Houston.
Through seven regular season games, Jackson was not used on offense and averaged 23.4 yards per kickoff return and 4.9 yards per punt return.
Midway through the 2008 regular season, the Bucs benched Jackson and replaced him with fellow rookie Clifton Smith, an undrafted free agent running back. Smith averaged 27.6 yards per kickoff return and 14.1 yards per punt return while scoring two touchdowns on special teams en route to the Pro Bowl.
Jackson missed a significant amount of practice time due to an ankle injury he sustained in Tampa Bay's preseason opener vs. Tennessee.
In addition to losing a 2008 second-round pick, Jackson will still hit Tampa Bay's books in 2009. A clause in his four-year rookie contract calls for Jackson to receive $450,000 in guaranteed base salary this year.
The Buccaneers released Jackson Monday in order to trim their roster down to the NFL-mandated number of 75 players.
Unfortunately for the Bucs, the experiment required a significant investment in the form of a 2008 second-round pick.
Jackson was the 58th overall player taken in the 2008 NFL Draft. He played collegiately at Appalachian State.
The 5-foot-9, 182-pound Jackson was drafted by former Bucs head coach Jon Gruden and general manager Bruce Allen to become a return specialist, a role he played at Appalachian State, but didn't necessarily excel in, evidenced by his 17.8-yard kickoff return average.
Jackson, who ran an impressive 4.27 40-yard dash time at the combine, struggled as a rookie, sustaining a serious hamstring injury in rookie mini-camp. He did, however, have an 83-yard punt return for a touchdown in a preseason game vs. Houston.
Through seven regular season games, Jackson was not used on offense and averaged 23.4 yards per kickoff return and 4.9 yards per punt return.
Midway through the 2008 regular season, the Bucs benched Jackson and replaced him with fellow rookie Clifton Smith, an undrafted free agent running back. Smith averaged 27.6 yards per kickoff return and 14.1 yards per punt return while scoring two touchdowns on special teams en route to the Pro Bowl.
Jackson missed a significant amount of practice time due to an ankle injury he sustained in Tampa Bay's preseason opener vs. Tennessee.
In addition to losing a 2008 second-round pick, Jackson will still hit Tampa Bay's books in 2009. A clause in his four-year rookie contract calls for Jackson to receive $450,000 in guaranteed base salary this year.
Comments
Horse
8:50am, August 31, 2009
unclestan
Glad we cut our losses and got it over with.
Also agree with Horse wrote about his lack of effort.
Also agree with Horse wrote about his lack of effort.
8:53am, August 31, 2009
OldSchool76
Shame. His receiving skills had come a long way IMO in the off season and he was having an excellent camp. Problem is, his issue was a case of being scared. We could never see if he was over it because of the high ankle sprain.
I have to admit I thought they might pull an IR thing to try and keep him and see if they could turn it around. Oh well.
I have to admit I thought they might pull an IR thing to try and keep him and see if they could turn it around. Oh well.
9:04am, August 31, 2009
PoundThatRock
I called this in February and nobody wanted to listen.
9:05am, August 31, 2009
rocko23
not surprised here , great move to just get it over with by letting him go now.
9:27am, August 31, 2009
ncbucfan
I thought they would see how he would fair after a year of improvement but I guess it's a wrap! It would have been nice for him to have pulled it together this pre-season, we could have used his speed on the field. Last year he was replaced by Clifton Smith...this year he was replaced by Sammie Stroughter!
9:28am, August 31, 2009
BucFanForLife
Though he might have shown improvement during the offseason, OTA's and camp, he was fighting an uphill battle and a long shot to make this team. There are to many other receivers who have and continue to outperform him.
I'm sure he'll get at least one more shot elsewhere. Hope he has learned a lesson and turns it around... for his sake at least.
I'm sure he'll get at least one more shot elsewhere. Hope he has learned a lesson and turns it around... for his sake at least.
9:46am, August 31, 2009
cremdonado
I'm sorry Mrs. Jackson-your son was not for real...
This guy was softer than butter left out in the sun,too bad he never manned up..I dont think any team wants a WR who hears footsteps before the snap !!
He still walks away with a wad of money-This is why the pay scale for rookies needs to change..Guys walk into this league making more money off the bat than guys who have played for years..I think guaranteed money should only kick in after your second year with a team-so bums like Dex dont get paid for being soft...
This guy was softer than butter left out in the sun,too bad he never manned up..I dont think any team wants a WR who hears footsteps before the snap !!
He still walks away with a wad of money-This is why the pay scale for rookies needs to change..Guys walk into this league making more money off the bat than guys who have played for years..I think guaranteed money should only kick in after your second year with a team-so bums like Dex dont get paid for being soft...
9:58am, August 31, 2009
JDouble
It's a shame we wasted a 2nd round pick on a bust, but I'm glad we admited our mistake and moved on now rather than drag it out and waste a roster spot on him. I think we got a steal with Stroughter in the 7th round, so I look at it as a wash. :D
10:29am, August 31, 2009
1bucfanjeff
No surprise here..
10:39am, August 31, 2009
pinkstob
What pisses me off about the original selection was the Bucs were in position to take Desean Jackson in the 2nd round and moved down in the round to pick up a late round pick. I think they assumed he would still be there but when Philly took him and the only guy left who was similar was Dexter.
I can't remember whether we picked up a 5th or 6th rounder in that deal, but that turned into either J. Johnson or G. Hayes and both of those guys will probably make the team this year. Kind of a bittersweet ending in my opinion.
I can't remember whether we picked up a 5th or 6th rounder in that deal, but that turned into either J. Johnson or G. Hayes and both of those guys will probably make the team this year. Kind of a bittersweet ending in my opinion.
11:15am, August 31, 2009
gg72049
I am also glad they did not waste any more time with this guy and cut their losses! It would have been a crime to keep him as a receiver when you have Smith and Stroughter as return men and better guys at catching the ball.
I sure would like to see the Bucs make a deal with someone to trade McCown even for draft choices if necessary to then make Johnson the backup QB. I really believe if you give this kid the reps in practice and a legitimate chance, he can surprise a lot of people. As much as I hate to say this, I think Leftwich probably will play better without having the thought of McCown breathing down his neck waiting for him to screw up so we can then go thru a QB shuffle every week!
Go Bucs!!!!!
I sure would like to see the Bucs make a deal with someone to trade McCown even for draft choices if necessary to then make Johnson the backup QB. I really believe if you give this kid the reps in practice and a legitimate chance, he can surprise a lot of people. As much as I hate to say this, I think Leftwich probably will play better without having the thought of McCown breathing down his neck waiting for him to screw up so we can then go thru a QB shuffle every week!
Go Bucs!!!!!
11:23am, August 31, 2009
dbcalpal3
Too bad we couldn't trade for a draft pich.
11:26am, August 31, 2009
jongruden
Here's to wishful thinking gg72049
11:26am, August 31, 2009
Buccaneer4Life
Agreed - why waste a roster spot. Shame no trade value or IR placement for possible future trade value. And to think we could have at least had Limas Sweed or some DE, DT, or LB instead of losing the pick.
11:32am, August 31, 2009
BucCaddy80
Let's all pause for a moment of silence as we reflect on how truly awful the Bruce Allen regime was in the NFL draft...
If there's one thing I will not miss about Bruce (and hopefully Hickey in the future) it is the way they absolutely mishandled the drafting of young players.
The shame is Bruce thinks he's so darn smart and Hickey is afraid to ever admit he made a mistake.
If there's one thing I will not miss about Bruce (and hopefully Hickey in the future) it is the way they absolutely mishandled the drafting of young players.
The shame is Bruce thinks he's so darn smart and Hickey is afraid to ever admit he made a mistake.
12:10pm, August 31, 2009
gg72049
Yep BucCaddy80, you can include Adams as one of his all time bad picKs in the first two rounds!!!!
12:22pm, August 31, 2009
michaelrayno
Please stop with the "We could've had Desean Jackson" stuff. We had no chance of picking Desean Jackson up without moving up to get him. Philly took him with the 49th pick...we traded the 52nd pick to Jax for their 2nd Rnd pick (58th) used on Dexter Jackson, their 5th Rnd pick (158th), we then traded that pick to Chicago for their 6th Rnd pick (175th) used on Geno Hayes. We also got Jacksonville’s 7th Rnd pick in this year’s draft (217) used on E.G. Biggers
Here’s a little tid-bit for you: the pick we traded to Denver for Jake Plummer (great move Allen/Gruden) 2008 7th Rnd pick (221)…Denver drafted FB Peyton Hillis.
Here’s a little tid-bit for you: the pick we traded to Denver for Jake Plummer (great move Allen/Gruden) 2008 7th Rnd pick (221)…Denver drafted FB Peyton Hillis.
12:24pm, August 31, 2009
enigmarick
I'll admit he was a bust but it seems everyone is quick to come down on the previous regime and point out that this was a reason for their departure. Well wasn't the previous regime also responsible for bringing in an undrafted Clifton Smith who made the Pro Bowl? We got pretty good value out of that didn't we? Everyone knows the Draft is Hit or Miss. For every Tom Brady there's at least 3 Maurice Clarett's. Just look at the overall value from the entire class & free agents before making a full judgement.
12:33pm, August 31, 2009
JDouble
I think an unbiased person, whether loved or hated Gruden/Allen, have to admit we drafted pretty horrible during thier tenure. It's not really an opinion thing, it's a fact thing.
12:38pm, August 31, 2009
wpmcclane
"Well, that's not a surprise. That is why the last regime is gone."
Give me a break, Horse. The "last regime" also gave us a pretty damn good offensive line, and as I recall, some pretty solid defenses over the years, along with hidden gems like Clifton Smith. Think about those pluses when you mention the "last regime" in some sweeping generalization about Gruden/Allen. . .
Give me a break, Horse. The "last regime" also gave us a pretty damn good offensive line, and as I recall, some pretty solid defenses over the years, along with hidden gems like Clifton Smith. Think about those pluses when you mention the "last regime" in some sweeping generalization about Gruden/Allen. . .
12:43pm, August 31, 2009
gg72049
I agree wpmcclane, the last two years they drafted were great except for Adams. Their other drafts weren't horrible except for the later rounds. As bad as GrudenAllen draft of Jackson was, it doesn't seem any worse than McCays draft of K. Walker and if I remember correctly he traded up to get him. Everyone makes their big blunders infortunately
12:59pm, August 31, 2009
JDouble
It wasn't all Gruden/Aleen's fault though. The glaciers gave up way to much to get Gruden and that hurt us alot.
2002 - No 1st or second round picks. Everyone was a bust except Jermaine Phillips.
2003 - No first round pick. The only two picks that did anything where Dwayne White and Torrie Cox. Total bust.
2004 - McKay was out and Allen was in. Only two notable picks where Mike Clayton and Will Allen. Everyone was a bust.
2005 - We got Caddie, which god luv em, is an injury prone RB that has so far been a bust, and Barret Ruud. We also got Alex Smith who was a decent TE. Everyone else was a bust.
2006 - Davin Joseph and Jeremy Trueblood were good picks. Stovall is one game away from being a bust and everyone was a complete bust.
2007 - Gaines hasn't done much yet, but I won't cll him a bust. Also got Piscatelli, Aron Sears, Quincy Black, Tanard Jackson, and Adam Hayward. This seems like our best draft in quite awhile, but this year will tell us for sure what we got.
2008 - Aqib Talib seems like another Pacman Jones to me, but I won't say he's a bust yet. We did get Geno Hayes and Jeremy Zuttah though. Josh Johnson might also have been a good pick, but noone knows and we might never find out.
Those are the facts and it is pretty obvious that we have drafted poorly. We have only drafted a couple probowlers over the last 7 years, and even worse we didn't add any depth because 90% of our 3rd-7th rounders have been complete busts. I think 2007 was a good year. Other than that, well it's easy to see why we are in the position we are now.
2002 - No 1st or second round picks. Everyone was a bust except Jermaine Phillips.
2003 - No first round pick. The only two picks that did anything where Dwayne White and Torrie Cox. Total bust.
2004 - McKay was out and Allen was in. Only two notable picks where Mike Clayton and Will Allen. Everyone was a bust.
2005 - We got Caddie, which god luv em, is an injury prone RB that has so far been a bust, and Barret Ruud. We also got Alex Smith who was a decent TE. Everyone else was a bust.
2006 - Davin Joseph and Jeremy Trueblood were good picks. Stovall is one game away from being a bust and everyone was a complete bust.
2007 - Gaines hasn't done much yet, but I won't cll him a bust. Also got Piscatelli, Aron Sears, Quincy Black, Tanard Jackson, and Adam Hayward. This seems like our best draft in quite awhile, but this year will tell us for sure what we got.
2008 - Aqib Talib seems like another Pacman Jones to me, but I won't say he's a bust yet. We did get Geno Hayes and Jeremy Zuttah though. Josh Johnson might also have been a good pick, but noone knows and we might never find out.
Those are the facts and it is pretty obvious that we have drafted poorly. We have only drafted a couple probowlers over the last 7 years, and even worse we didn't add any depth because 90% of our 3rd-7th rounders have been complete busts. I think 2007 was a good year. Other than that, well it's easy to see why we are in the position we are now.
1:04pm, August 31, 2009
JDouble
Forgot Clifton Smith from last year...oops.
1:08pm, August 31, 2009
lprock22
Yes, I also seem to remember the last regime bringing a certain trophy to town and also a few division championships.
1:08pm, August 31, 2009
cremdonado
Dex didnt do sh*t and he walks makin almost half a mil....Thats the real shame of this whole situation..Paying a kid a buttload of money for what he MIGHT be able to do...
In Frisco they are dealing with the crabtree drama-based off what he did in college and what he MIGHT be able to do in the NFL.He may have been a great college receiver but now he is an obnoxious ass-who I'm sure has spent more time recently running his mouth more than practicing running his routes.
So if SF pays this goof what he wants,and because he hasnt done his part by readying himself for the season with a hold out gets injured,or just plain sucks,he can walk away a millionaire ?! This doesnt only seem wacky,it robs an organization of money that should go to those who perform..
Tjack(before his recent run in with the law) has done great things on the field and has become a defensive beast,yet makes less money than Dex-who has done squat...I'd be pissed everyday at practice if i was a Hayes or a Jackson-busting my ass-fighting to get better and for more playing time,while burn outs like Dex dont do sh*t and get paid just because of where they are drafted.There has got to be a way to keep it fair,while also eliminating pay outs to the Dexters out there..
Maybe put in a clause for the first 3 rounds-and if a guy doesnt pan out, part of his contracted money goes to increase pay for the 4th and later round guys-who perform like 1st -3rds should...I'm sure the later round guys would like a chance at a bonus if the early round guys chump out-also increases competition in a locker room..Just a thought...
In Frisco they are dealing with the crabtree drama-based off what he did in college and what he MIGHT be able to do in the NFL.He may have been a great college receiver but now he is an obnoxious ass-who I'm sure has spent more time recently running his mouth more than practicing running his routes.
So if SF pays this goof what he wants,and because he hasnt done his part by readying himself for the season with a hold out gets injured,or just plain sucks,he can walk away a millionaire ?! This doesnt only seem wacky,it robs an organization of money that should go to those who perform..
Tjack(before his recent run in with the law) has done great things on the field and has become a defensive beast,yet makes less money than Dex-who has done squat...I'd be pissed everyday at practice if i was a Hayes or a Jackson-busting my ass-fighting to get better and for more playing time,while burn outs like Dex dont do sh*t and get paid just because of where they are drafted.There has got to be a way to keep it fair,while also eliminating pay outs to the Dexters out there..
Maybe put in a clause for the first 3 rounds-and if a guy doesnt pan out, part of his contracted money goes to increase pay for the 4th and later round guys-who perform like 1st -3rds should...I'm sure the later round guys would like a chance at a bonus if the early round guys chump out-also increases competition in a locker room..Just a thought...
1:08pm, August 31, 2009
cremdonado
Is Clifton Smith making Dexter Jackson money ??? I doubt it, and thats what's really wrong here...Glad we cut that fart...
1:10pm, August 31, 2009
Horse
wpmcclane,
Okay I shouldn't had said it the way I did because it got picked up as a Gruden/Allen thing. I could care less about past or present Head Coach & GM. What I have been pissed off about now for two years has been the scout in the northern area. I believe he has been replaced. His scouting skills were not there and ratings were not there. I don't blame the coaching staff for that. They were relying on this guys data. This started before DJ was drafted and I asked the same question to Pewter Report as to who was the scout in the north because I had concerns about his skills.
Okay I shouldn't had said it the way I did because it got picked up as a Gruden/Allen thing. I could care less about past or present Head Coach & GM. What I have been pissed off about now for two years has been the scout in the northern area. I believe he has been replaced. His scouting skills were not there and ratings were not there. I don't blame the coaching staff for that. They were relying on this guys data. This started before DJ was drafted and I asked the same question to Pewter Report as to who was the scout in the north because I had concerns about his skills.
1:11pm, August 31, 2009
PoundThatRock
Just noticed how DJax is holding the ball in that pick...
1:28pm, August 31, 2009
JDouble
"Yes, I also seem to remember the last regime bringing a certain trophy to town and also a few division championships."
Seriously Iprick? Did anyone Gruden draft help him win that SB? That has nothing to do with how the last regime did drafting. I point out the facts and show they drafted badly and you feel the need to scream "but he won us a SB!" cause you can't say anything about the current subject. He did win a SB, with the team we already had and a few FAs. Then that regime drafted horribly for the rest of thier tenure and thats why they are gone. That's why we have alot of unproven mid round picks starting this year.
Horse, I hope we have new scouts as well. The coach and GM's decisions can only be as good as the info they get from thier scouts.
Seriously Iprick? Did anyone Gruden draft help him win that SB? That has nothing to do with how the last regime did drafting. I point out the facts and show they drafted badly and you feel the need to scream "but he won us a SB!" cause you can't say anything about the current subject. He did win a SB, with the team we already had and a few FAs. Then that regime drafted horribly for the rest of thier tenure and thats why they are gone. That's why we have alot of unproven mid round picks starting this year.
Horse, I hope we have new scouts as well. The coach and GM's decisions can only be as good as the info they get from thier scouts.
1:36pm, August 31, 2009
pinkstob
If Philly really did draft Desean before our first pick came around in the 2nd round then I remembered it wrong and it's my mistake. No big deal.
2:32pm, August 31, 2009
wpmcclane
Horse, damn good point about the scouting (lack of). Interested to hear PR's take on Buc's scouts. . .
2:33pm, August 31, 2009
termig8r
The only surprise is that the cut took place a week early. With that said, it would have been nice to see what a healthy Jackson could have done. I'm guessing he's still not as healthy as he was at Appy St.
As for the money - the Bucs still pay him a 1/2 mil with NO production - so for the money argument - would it not have been better to keep him?
With what has been considered a weak receiving corp for the Bucs, I'm betting Dexter was clearly beat out by the others.
As for the money - the Bucs still pay him a 1/2 mil with NO production - so for the money argument - would it not have been better to keep him?
With what has been considered a weak receiving corp for the Bucs, I'm betting Dexter was clearly beat out by the others.
2:42pm, August 31, 2009
michaelrayno
pinkstob, I didn't direct that towards you. There are many more folks on here who make the same reference and I wasn't sure if anyone took the time to correct it. It's all good!
Go Bucs!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!
2:45pm, August 31, 2009
gg72049
It would have been better to keep Jackson if we had a roster spot open with nobody better to take it. I can think of 4 receivers he couldn't beat out. Stovall, Strougher, Clark and Rutthia. Speed is worthless if you are scared to get hit and can't outrun every defender all the time!
3:10pm, August 31, 2009
PoundThatRock
What's the point in wasting a roster spot on a guy who was never going to see the field?
It's not like we're on the hook for $20mil for him.
It's not like we're on the hook for $20mil for him.
3:11pm, August 31, 2009
dcrum35
Another stellar offensive draft pick by Gruden.
Name a good draft pick that Gruden selected (offense only, since defense was Kiffin)?
Davin Joseph comes to mind... that is it.
Pathetic. When he is on Monday night, he isn't half bad but when he talks about talent, I have to laugh... he doesn't know talent any better than half of us.
Name a good draft pick that Gruden selected (offense only, since defense was Kiffin)?
Davin Joseph comes to mind... that is it.
Pathetic. When he is on Monday night, he isn't half bad but when he talks about talent, I have to laugh... he doesn't know talent any better than half of us.
3:17pm, August 31, 2009
litzy1
Jdouble, you can't be serious with this tired old GRUDEN/ALLEN didn't win the super bowl with their team BS. Pewter report already proved this with several articles. You conviently forget guys like Micheal Pittman, Keenan, Jurevicius, Ken Dilger, Roman Oben, Kerry Jenkins (ALL STARTERS for the SB) who were not just "some or tiny pieces. He took a team that was a perennial wild card loser and turned them into Super Bowl Champions, anything you say or try to discredit the regime won't disprove that fact. You so quickly pass off guys like Barret Ruud, Davin Joesph, Clifton Smith that are now corner stone/building blocks for this team as just "ok". Dungy/McKay hit the Lotto a few times with Sapp, Brooks, Barber, Dunn, but he also had MANY bad picks as well Kenyatta Walker ring a bell, he was a super bust far bigger the D-jax, don't forget Cosey Coleman another McKay/Dungy bust. Dexter Jackson is a bust, we established that to bring up to bash Gruden is just ridiculous in my mind. I just feel like this is such a dead horse and don't understand why Bucs fans just can't let it go, it just feels like crybabies with axes to grind. All coaches/GMs have bad drafts or make bad picks. Focus on this years team, and hopefully we got the "best 53" on the roster come game day.
3:30pm, August 31, 2009
gg72049
come one dcrum35, did you forget about Gradkowski? The hurt in remembering that wasn't that he drafted him, but he wasted over half of a season playing him. What a freaking joke that season was!!!! I think that was Gruden's biggest blunder in all of his moves here in Tampa!
3:32pm, August 31, 2009
tyork
dcrum35 - you want a good offensive player Gruden selected - I give you non-other than Marquis Cooper!!! Freakin Stud!
Ummm... yeah.....
Ummm... yeah.....
3:46pm, August 31, 2009
roger4680
That makes two Dexter Jacksons that have cashed in on the Bucs....at least one of them earned an Super Bowl MVP trophy!
Hey Dexter - $450K would make a great opening-day tailgate for Bucs fans....just sayin'!
He's probably jammin to some Steve Miller Band right about now...
Hey Dexter - $450K would make a great opening-day tailgate for Bucs fans....just sayin'!
He's probably jammin to some Steve Miller Band right about now...
3:54pm, August 31, 2009
bucdiesel
You can love them or hate them but Gruden/Allen did some good things and bad things. Sure they were robbed of some 1st and 2nd round picks , but that's not what is hurting us now. It is their drafting from the 3rd & 4th rounds that is killing our depth. Say all you want about Whyche and McKay it was their later round drafting that helped Dungy and Gruden . Gruden did and didn't win the Bowl with his team. The offensive players were his and played their asses off in the play offs but if he didn't have that championship defense inplace already then the Bucs never even make the playoffs that year. Look what he has done since. His 1st three drafts sucked. It took his last two to really make a hit. Gruden was brought here to be an offensive guru . He rarely showed it because he couldn't due to all the mediocre to piss poor "talent" he brought in!
4:00pm, August 31, 2009
sean42787
"That is why the last regime is gone"
Couldnt be further from the truth. New England drafted a WR out of Florida named Chad Jackson in the 1st round and released him faster than we released Jackson
Also don't you think Clifton Smith factors into how harshly you judge Gruden over this pick? Sure it was a TERRIBLE pick, but he got out of an undrafted FA what he was looking to get out of Jackson. So its a wash
Couldnt be further from the truth. New England drafted a WR out of Florida named Chad Jackson in the 1st round and released him faster than we released Jackson
Also don't you think Clifton Smith factors into how harshly you judge Gruden over this pick? Sure it was a TERRIBLE pick, but he got out of an undrafted FA what he was looking to get out of Jackson. So its a wash
4:50pm, August 31, 2009
jleonard55
Gruden was terrible with personel, that's why he got fired. Not just picking them, but also managing them and even evaluating the talent he had on the roster. People like to bring up Clifton Smith, but he wasn't a Gruden pick, he was a free agent that could have signed anywhere. I can remember several people on these boards wondering how he got cut last year along with Clark. Clark throughly beat out Jackson at receiver and Smith clearly beat him out as a return guy. Both guys were cut by Gruden and then brought back later in the year after he realized weeks later what most of us saw in the preseason. He got lucky that neither one of those guys got picked up. The list is long, starting with Thomas Jones, McCardel, Keyshawn Johnson, Lynch, Stussie, Deese, Garner etc..etc.. etc..How much money of your Boss's can you waste before you get fired!? There is not a single Pro Bowler on this team right now that he drafted.
11:09pm, August 31, 2009
JDouble
When I said "That is why the last regime is gone" I didn't literally mean cause Dexter Jackson didn't pan out. I meant because Allen/Gruden did such a horrible job drafting, that they could not produce on Sundays. The final two drafts were pretty decent, but that was all defensive players. The only good offensive players they brought in in thier seven years of drafting are Joseph, Sears, Zuttah, and Trueblood. Out of those four only one is a probowl elite type player. Dexter Jackson is just the latest reminder of how bad they were at drafting offense. Whether is was Allen/Gruden's fault or the scouts fault...THAT is why they are gone.
11:10pm, August 31, 2009
rayqw2
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers apparently saw something they liked in WR Kelly Campbell.
Though the team waived Campbell as injured a few days ago, he has been retained by the team and is now on injured reserve.
Players who are waived-injured automatically go on injured reserve if they clear waivers.
Campbell, 29, was signed by the Bucs as a free agent in the offseason. He originally joined the league in 2002 as an undrafted free agent with the Minnesota Vikings.
Campbell spent the 2008 season with the Edmonton Eskimos of the Canadian Football League, gaining 1,223 receiving yards to rank sixth in the league.
can anyone tell me what this means, is he out for the whole year, if so why bother placing him on IR....are they blocking another team from taking him, thats messed up if so
Though the team waived Campbell as injured a few days ago, he has been retained by the team and is now on injured reserve.
Players who are waived-injured automatically go on injured reserve if they clear waivers.
Campbell, 29, was signed by the Bucs as a free agent in the offseason. He originally joined the league in 2002 as an undrafted free agent with the Minnesota Vikings.
Campbell spent the 2008 season with the Edmonton Eskimos of the Canadian Football League, gaining 1,223 receiving yards to rank sixth in the league.
can anyone tell me what this means, is he out for the whole year, if so why bother placing him on IR....are they blocking another team from taking him, thats messed up if so
12:23am, September 1, 2009
PoundThatRock
No, IR just means you can't play before Week 6 I think. I know the PuP works that way, I assume IR does too.
10:08am, September 1, 2009
gobucsgo
Drafting has been the trouble with the Bucs since the franchise was awarded. The owners’ philosophy has been draft the cheapest and save money. Then McKay idea was to draft gators to bring in the fans like that dude who was off sides all the time. Gruden commented last night on how great Peterson was but he could have drafted him and did not.
11:07am, September 1, 2009
DaTruth
What do you think the record would have been under Gruden/Allen vs Morris/Dominik?
G/A 10-6
M/D 4-12 maybe 5-11
I know we will never know, but Gruden was a hellofa coach. and could get alot out of minimal talent. I guanantee you that with G/A here we would not be waisting a 1st round pick on the BENCH this year.
G/A 10-6
M/D 4-12 maybe 5-11
I know we will never know, but Gruden was a hellofa coach. and could get alot out of minimal talent. I guanantee you that with G/A here we would not be waisting a 1st round pick on the BENCH this year.
11:19am, September 1, 2009
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I just can't believe that a guy who thoroughly understood if he did not get a lot better from last season to this season that he was gone. Where was the extra effort to go down swinging.
Oh well.