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Freeman Nearly Made Debut In Philadelphia

Tampa Bay Buccaneers rookie quarterback Josh Freeman (Cliff Welch)

Tampa Bay Buccaneers rookie quarterback Josh Freeman (Cliff Welch)

The Bucs gave serious consideration to playing rookie QB Josh Freeman late in the fourth quarter of Tampa Bay's game at Philadelphia last week. In other news, S Tanard Jackson saw some action at cornerback last week, and the latest injury news from One Buc Place including fullback B.J. Askew's fender-bender.



 
Tampa Bay Buccaneers rookie quarterback Josh Freeman came close to making his debut last Sunday, but the Bucs coaching staff resisted the temptation to play their first-round pick.

The Bucs lost to the Eagles last week, 33-14. With the game out of hand, Bucs head coach Raheem Morris and offensive coordinator Greg Olson thought about pulling second-year QB Josh Johnson in an effort to get Freeman some valuable playing time.

But Philadelphia's relentless defensive attack, which featured a variety of blitz packages, wasn't something Tampa Bay's staff thought Freeman should see in his first regular season action in the NFL.

"There was thought last week of getting Freeman in at the end of the game," said Olson. "But our feeling as a staff was that we weren't sure this was the defense we wanted to have this kid start off against right now. We'll allow him to get some more practice time this week and let him develop a little further."

The coaching staff believes Freeman has come a long way since the regular season started. That would be a good thing seeing as Freeman completed just 22-of-49 (44.9 percent) of his passes for 238 yards while tossing one touchdown and three interceptions in preseason. He also rushed eight times for 75 yards and a 28-yard touchdown.

For now, the 0-5 Bucs, who have the 26th-ranked offense in the NFL, are sticking with Bucs second-year QB Josh Johnson.

Johnson has completed 43-of-82 (52.4 percent) of his passes for 382 yards and three touchdowns and four interceptions, but showed significant improvement from his debut against Washington to his second NFL start vs. Philadelphia last week.

"Josh Freeman's development is really going well," said Morris. "Josh Johnson, however, has been here for a year. He's been through the early meetings and class for a year. He's been with Coach Olson for a year and he's been calling protections and been on the same page with the center. He's been through all that. Freeman is going through that process right now, so I wouldn't say he's necessarily having a problem from the neck up.

"Freeman's opportunity will come if Josh Johnson fails. I don't like to talk about Josh Johnson failing because right now he's our quarterback."

Freeman, 21, agreed with his coaching staff's assessment in terms of the progress he's made since he landed in Tampa Bay as the 17th overall pick in the 2009 NFL Draft.

"I've definitely made strides, both physically and mentally," said Freeman. "I've spent a lot of time with Coach Olson and I've been hitting the books hard."

One of the reasons why the Bucs have hesitated to play Freeman is because of his lack of familiarity with line calls at the NFL level. Johnson had similar issues as a rookie, and the Bucs see Freeman making similar progress in that particular area.

In fact, the Bucs believe Johnson's play and upside is what's keeping Freeman on the sideline more than anything else at this point.

"He could play right now," Olson said of Freeman. "He's sharing reps with Josh Johnson in practice right now. Last week, with the amount of blitzes Philadelphia threw at Josh Johnson I think it would have been asking a lot of Josh Freeman to go in and handle all of the protection calls that Josh Johnson did. Looking back on it, we were watching film on Monday and he made all the calls and said, ‘This would have been a Ringo, this would have been a Lucky, this would have been a Rita call here.' I think it's just a matter of him getting comfortable with that.

"It's nice to have [center] Jeff Faine back. That helps out both young quarterbacks. Even a year ago, there was a big difference when Jeff Garcia was in and Brian Griese was in. Jeff felt much more comfortable with Jeff Faine making the balls. He had never done that in his career and wasn't real interested in that. It wasn't an issue, but somewhat it is. The quarterback has to get guys in the right places. We ask these guys to do that, and that's a big part of the quarterback development. Especially nowadays with all the zone blitzes, it's important that the quarterbacks understand the protection part of it."

Regardless of how he plays, if the Bucs remain winless heading into their bye week there's a chance Freeman will be inserted into the starting lineup.

"If he had to play, yeah, [Freeman] would play," said Olson. "He's our number two quarterback right now. It's just a matter of him getting the reps. We have a bye week coming up and we have a short week next week with us leaving for London on Friday. He's got a couple of weeks and then a bye week where he'll be able to practice even more."

Freeman said he's prepared to play if and when the Bucs need him this season.

"Every week I prepare as if I'm the starter," said Freeman. "You never know when your number will be called, but whenever mine is called I'll be ready."

JACKSON BACK TO NORMAL AT SAFETY
Free safety Tanard Jackson returned to the field last Sunday at Philadelphia. Jackson had to miss the first four games of the season with suspension due to violating the NFL's policy on substance abuse.

The third-year veteran Jackson was credited with four tackles against the Eagles. Jackson said he was inserted back into the lineup with the same amount of playing time that he played in the previous years.

"We still rotated the safeties like we did the past two years," Jackson said. "I played a great amount, basically the whole game. We are looking to play three safeties. We are looking to keep Sabby [Piscitelli], Will [Allen], and myself on the field. We want to keep that rotation going and keep us all fresh."

For the first time in the NFL, Jackson played a few snaps at cornerback against the Eagles. At Syracuse, Jackson was a full-time cornerback. After getting drafted by Tampa Bay in the fourth round of the 2007 NFL Draft, Jackson was moved to safety. Last season, he had over 100 tackles for the first time in his career, and was the Buccaneers starting free safety for every game the past two seasons.

In the 2009 offseason the Bucs moved Jackson to playing some nickel cornerback. When playing there, Jackson lines up over the slot receiver. Jackson has paid attention to veteran Ronde Barber, who has had a lot of success in his NFL career lining up over the slot receiver. Jackson saw his first reps in the NFL there last Sunday against Philadelphia. On one particular play when Jackson was playing cornerback there was a 40-yard touchdown pass to Eagles receiver Jeremy Maclin, who beat Barber and Allen for the score.

"I was at the nickel position on that play," said Jackson. "I played this position a lot in the preseason. I've always been the backup to Ronde, but Ronde plays that spot and has been for years. You rarely see anybody else at that position. It is a little bit (like being back at Syracuse) covering the slot receiver. I played it a lot there."

ASKEW SUSTAINED INJURY IN CAR ACCIDENT
The 0-5 Tampa Bay Buccaneers took the practice field at One Buccaneer Place Thursday to continue preparing for their next opponent -- the 1-3 Carolina Panthers.

Bucs fullback B.J. Askew (back/neck) and tight end Jerramy Stevens (quad) were held out of practice for the second straight day with their injuries. Morris said Askew suffered his injuries in a car accident.

"B.J. Askew the other morning had a fender-bender," said Morris. "He had an accident. We are going to monitor his status day-by-day to see what is going on with B.J.

If Askew can't play taking his place at fullback would be veteran running back Earnest Graham.

"Well you got Earnest Graham, who is the lead dog guy when B.J. is not going to be in attendance," said Morris. "Earnest Graham we pick on him a lot. We say his head is so big he can't get into a three-point stance, but Earnest is so mister versatile. He can catch the ball out of the backfield, he can be a third-down back, he can be a fullback, he can be a tailback, the versatility of Earnest Graham, and what he does for us on special teams. He's just a special young player."

Wide receiver Antonio Bryant (knee) was limited again despite suggesting Wednesday that he would have his knee drained in an effort to practice more this week. Bryant is expected to play vs. the Panthers.

Bucs tackle Donald Penn (ankle), defensive end Jimmy Wilkerson (knee), center Jeff Faine (triceps), Graham (hamstring), defensive end Kyle Moore (knee) and running back Clifton Smith (ankle) were all fully involved practicing today.

"Kyle Moore is working," said Morris. "I've certainly seen a lot more of him in practice this week. He's been impressive. He had another impressive practice. We'll get to the game and see who is going to be the top guys in the 45, and see if he can get out there. I don't know yet. I make those decisions on game day. Most of them."

The Carolina Panthers had the following players with full participating: running back Jonathan Stewart (achilles), linebacker James Anderson (concussion), linebacker Jon Beason (knee), linebacker Na'il Diggs (rib), defensive tackle Nick Hayden (toe), and cornerback Captain Munnerlyn (shoulder). Wide receiver Steve Smith (knee) had limited participation, and tight end Dante Rosario (ankle) did not participate.
 

Comments

LordJim

Thank you for that modification. I don't mind my comments being censored if it's for a good cause ;)

5:08pm, October 15, 2009

jongruden

Frreman behind center, oh god! Hasn't it got bad enough already?

5:33pm, October 15, 2009

jongruden

Freeman I mean

5:33pm, October 15, 2009

amnion

These guys thirst for mediocrity. Go ahead an put the rook in. Let the NFL bless him with blitz packages and INTs galore. I just want to be proud of this team again!

6:14pm, October 15, 2009

amnion

Here's an idea! Let's start blitzing ourselves. We suck. We may as well go for broke. Either that or go 100% tampa 2. This strattle the fence stuff is for the birds.

6:15pm, October 15, 2009

LVBUC1

I guess it's better to start last years 5th round pick, who has just as much experience as Freeman

6:16pm, October 15, 2009

Horse

Askew was overpaid two years ago. Thank you Gruden/Allen for that mistake.

I am still in favor of Freeman playing a couple of series a game. At least Johnson is holding his own and it is Freeman's job to beat out Johnson, not the other way.
Go Bucs!

7:15pm, October 15, 2009

JDouble

Look, Freeman isn't ready. I'm a fan of Freeman and even I know he isn't ready. He is barelt 21 and is not one of those kids that people say is wise beyond his years. He needs time to mature and take his riole a leader seriously. He also needs to practise his touch passes and learn how to read NFL defenses.

Besides all that, Josh Johnson has looked very solid so far. If the rest of our offense starts clicking and our coaches quite asking him to throw the ball 50 times a game...he could be the next Vick type QB. You remeber the Falcons with Vick? We had thier number, but the rest of the league struggled to defens them. Would it be so bad to have that type of offense for the next year or two while Freeman matures?

I've lost faith in this coaching staff because of the nonstop barrage of idiotic decision making they've displayed, but if they bench JJ prematurely and push Freeman into action...I'll make jongruden and bucfan47 look like postive minded super fans!

Cowher and Suh 2010!

7:19pm, October 15, 2009

JDouble

Sorry for the typos...there where alot. This forum could use a spell check!

7:21pm, October 15, 2009

sunrisejeff

I dont want to see JF pushed in too early either but I havent been at practices to see his growth and make the ruling that he is not ready. I dont think it will be any surprise if we see Freeman at QB after the bye week.

7:30pm, October 15, 2009

JDouble

Sadly I think your right. I'd like to see JJ finish this year barring injury. I honestly believe we could develope a feared offense with him behind center.

Even once Freeman does take over, I think we'd be fools not to use JJ in some Wildcat action.

7:34pm, October 15, 2009

cremdonado

Who is the photo editor??-Again the picture says a lot...Freeman looks special doesnt he ?

When he starts Tampa will go from last to......well,last...
If Morris says he's ready,HE DEFINATELY IS NOT..
The boy crush has to end Reem....

Freeman is going to spend more time on his back than Paris Hilton..

7:40pm, October 15, 2009

JDouble

So many attempts at humor, and yet......








cricket..........cricket..........

8:09pm, October 15, 2009

jongruden

JDouble- I used to be irratated by your ignorance now I just find it amussing. JJ used in "the wildcat formation" thankyou I needed that laugh, it wasn't quite as funny as Black at De" or "Clayton does everything except catch passes", but its right up there. Listen, if you are younger than 21 yrs old let me know and I'll get off your back for being naive.

8:17pm, October 15, 2009

LordJim

Horse, are you kidding with that? The guy was a difference maker when healthy and cap-friendly when not. Just because the current regime prefers to use him as a sixth-string tailback doesn't mean having him on the roster was a mistake. You don't even know who's at fault in the accident. Jesus. It's people like you that got us into this mess.

9:02pm, October 15, 2009

Really?

Horse - do you even KNOW how much his contract is? People who don't know should not open their mouths. The way the Bucs roster is structured financially it is very hard for you to say that with a straight face (unless you are referring to Clayton).

Askew is not a highly paid FB - and if the Bucs didn't want him they could cut him and really have no effect. Keep your ignorance off this site.

9:07pm, October 15, 2009

jiggyjoe

Can we at least win one game with Johnson before we put Freeman into the mix. This is very odd to me. Why play Freeman when Johnson is a better QB? Just because management though millions of dollars at this guy does not mean he should play. The best should play and Johnson is the best now.

9:11pm, October 15, 2009

JDouble

jongruden....let's here why using JJ in the Wildcat formation is so niave and ignorant. Please share. This should be good.....

Oh, and if your big reason is because we don't run the Wildcat, save the bandwitch and don't bother replying. The irony would just be to much for me to handle.

9:11pm, October 15, 2009

JDouble

Speaking of the wildcat offense....untill defenses figure out a solid way to beat it, it will be used more and more. The Dolphins obviously are the best at it. They use Ricky Williams, Ronnie Brown, and Pat White. Anyone one think Cadilac, Ward, and JJ could be just as potent if we ran it? I do. To top it off JJ is actually a good QB which makes it that much more dangerous.

Maybe next year we'll get a good creative offensive coordinator in here and he'll experiement with it. Oslen is about as creative as.....dirt, so I wouldn't expect to see it this year. I just think it made a very mediocre offense in Miami into a dangerous offense that can beat anyone on a good day. If we have similar players, why not try it?

9:18pm, October 15, 2009

bucfan47

Don't think our running attack is near as good as Miami's, first of all. I think we should also just ask Josh Johnson to continue completing the forward pass. He's certainly not mastered that yet.

Miami puts more work into the wildcat than any other team in the NFL. They believe in it, others don't, it's that simple. Others are trying to use it, but they don't practice it on a daily basis like Miami. That partially is the difference. But Ronnie Brown is the other half of that difference. He's simply better than others at running the offense.

11:14pm, October 15, 2009

jongruden

JDouble- I guess your older than 21, wow shocking! Ok, I hope that you are hired to coach this team next year, that way we can run the wildcat offense, Black will be a force at DE and Clayton can be used to block for the wildcat, great ideas!
Hey, I'm surprised everyone in the league hasn't went to the wildcat offense. It has been doing wonders for the Eagles, LOL!

12:11am, October 16, 2009

wpmcclane

Earlier JDouble post:

"Sadly I think your right. I'd like to see JJ finish this year barring injury. I honestly believe we could develope a feared offense with him behind center.

Even once Freeman does take over, I think we'd be fools not to use JJ in some Wildcat action. "

JDouble wants us to run the Wildcat?!? How about we learn how to run the "feared" offense first!!! Yes, "feared"! What an idiotic comment. . .almost as idiotic as JJ being the next Vick...

1:26am, October 16, 2009

wpmcclane

JDouble, the reason why using JJ in a Wildcat is just plain bad is because the Bucs don't run the Wildcat as a major part of their gameplan. You make it sound like putting JJ in the backfield as part of a Wildcat package is easier said than done. The reason it works in Miami is exactly how bucfan47 describes it: because Miami practices the Wildcat, it's a major part of their offensive gameplan, and it's not some one-off gimmick run every other quarter. It's a major PART of their game and it's a part of their mindset. They believe in it becasue they work on it, whereas the Bucs will continue to treat it as a gimmick, like most others teams in the NFL. . .

I guess you'd figure that out if you were actually over 21 and had had some good football sense. Cufew starts at 9 pm, J. . .

1:32am, October 16, 2009

scubog

jiggyjoe: And you're basing your assessment that Johnson "is a better QB" than Freeman on what? Hey, I'm not saying that Freeman is better than Johnson either because of one simple fact, we haven't even seen Freeman take a snap.

I know we all like the underdog. Without ever really having a superstar established QB in 34 years, Tampa Bay fans always have this idea that the guy holding the clipboard is the best player if only the coaches weren't so stupid.

Personally I don't care if BF47 is the QB if the team wins. He just might be the back-up QB on some semi-pro team in Tennessee with all of the spare time he has to go along with his self-proclaimed football savvy.

I can just see him on the sidelines with his laptop taking the place of a clipboard posting away when the coach yells, "47 go ahead and get in there and take some snaps , it's garbage time" . To which BF replies, "hold on coach, call a time out, I've got to finish posting to my good buddy scubog.

6:16am, October 16, 2009

pinkstob

I really don't understand why everyone is jumping down JDouble's throat because this suggestion isn't that far-fetched. This offense needs something that defenses fear and have to plan for during the week. I'd rather see this team attempting the wildcat than the option. The wildcat has proven effective in the NFL whereas the option hasn't.

If the problem is we don't practice it enough during the week, then g@$dammit practice it more during the week. JJ doesn't have Vick's athletisim or arm/wrist strength but he's damn sure a lot smarter. Mora wouldn't even let Vick call his own audibles.

If we did run the practice and run the wildcat I'd like to see Cadillac take the direct snap. He's a better threat running straight up the field than JJ. Ward would be the back and JJ would line up at WR. JJ has a better build for WR than running between the tackles.

8:45am, October 16, 2009

JDouble

They are jumping down my throat because they are mindless idiots pinkstob. They act like the Wildcat is rocket science. Wildcat formation is no different that any other formation. If our coaches decided to have 6 or 7 Wildcat plays in our playbook that we practiced every week, there is no reason it couldn't happen. If we had success with it, we could develope more plays and it could become more prevelant in our game plan. It's not a stupid or niave idea at all....they are just stupid and niave people that can't wrap thier head around something new.

9:00am, October 16, 2009

JDouble

Bucfan47 says Miami's running game is much better than ours, but when not lined up in the Wildcat formation, thier run game is nothing special. I wouldn't say Ronnie Brown and Ricky Willaims are better than Ward and Caddie. 47 also says they put more work into it than other other team. This is true. Why couldn't we do the same? We have the guys to do it.

jongruden sarcasticly says he is surprised everyone in the league hasn't started running the WIldcat. Look around buddy. Most have started using it in one way or another.

wpmcclane laughs that I called the Wildcat a feared offense. Did you see the Dolphins destroy the Patriots last year with it? Did you see them make the Jets defense look helpless in the last 3 minutes of the game last Monday night? Did you know the Dolphins have the #1 ranked rushing attack in the league? Until defenses figure out a way to defend it well...it is dangerous. Why you think so many teams are trying it?

You all like to point fingers and dogpile on folks. Accuse people of being niave and not knowing football. I think you need to take a long look in the mirrior.



9:08am, October 16, 2009

tyork

From Bucfan47 yesterday:

"Johnson has shown promise, but he's still a mess. And it's going to continue to happen because the guy just hasn't played enough. If he turns out to be good in three years that's great, but how's that helping us win games this season? All I'm saying."

Bit of a catch 22 isn't it? He's a mess because he hasn't played enough... hmmmm... guess he better get more playing time huh? Certainly Lefty isn't the answer or the future - so what's exactly is the point? Oh yeah, the Bucs are idiots for not having better QB's to choose from. Maybe so but let's give the kid a chance and see what he can do.

As for Freeman, he'll get playing time soon enough imo. We're not a good football team clearly - so let's build for the future and see what we've got - or we could all just cry in our beer.

Oh, calling everyone Bud or Pal - it's a bit insulting. Understand GUY?

9:32am, October 16, 2009

rcpadrick

Jdouble: Normally, I agree with you. But, I think you're off the mark on the Wildcat thing.

It worked last year because it was new. It hasn't this year (see the lack of success of using it in Miami, Philly, etc.) because everyone knows how to defend against it, which is basically just stay in your correct place.

I agree we need something to put defenses off balance, but I don't think the Wildcat is the answer. I'd prefer to see Johnson/Freeman do a lot more bootlegs. Having Johnson stand in the pocket isn't smart because he doesn't get a lot of time to view the defense and has a hard time seeing over the line. Rolling him out of the pocket would make it easier to do both.

9:44am, October 16, 2009

Horse

Lordjim,
I don't understand where you are coming from. I believe it was last year, but maybe the year before, when the Pewter Magazine had a rather larger article on Askew and his style of living. Either he's an idiot or he is being paid very well as an injured back up blocker for the last three years.
There are three guys who I think have continue to be consistent with injuries, Stovall, Askew, Faine. I know there's more, but these guys hurt us when they can not play.

10:03am, October 16, 2009

jongruden

JDouble- Just to let you know little guy that naive is spelled this way and not niave. Miami is using the wildcat with some success, Philly is using it and failing miserably
I don't who else is using it?

10:27am, October 16, 2009

sunrisejeff

Not to jump on either side here but Jon Gruden, the coach not the poster, was actually in the booth for the Bulls game last night and was talking about the Wildcat in the NFL and what a valuable tool it is. Makes you wonder if he wouldn't have found a way to incorporate into our offense.

10:52am, October 16, 2009

wpmcclane

JDouble, man, read what I wrote. You do know how to read & comprehend don't you? I know the Wildcat is a great weapon when utilized correctly, practiced, and is part of a team's gameplan. Like I said, the Dolphins PRACTICE it, they BELIEVE in it, and they USE it more than any other team in the league. It's part of their IDENTITY. And yes, I did watch the Fish destroy the Jets on Monday. The Fish are the only team running it on a consistent basis and making it work.

My point is, that unless the Bucs (or any other team that half asses the Wildcat) take it seriously and build Wildcat packages CONSISTENTLY into their game plan, it won't work. We need to get our running game going and a few completed passes to our WR's before we have any more fantasies about installing Wildcat formations into Olson's playcalling.

12:48pm, October 16, 2009

wnb0395

wpmcclane, Not many teams can use the wildcat because not many teams have the personell to use it. That is the Eagles Problem. The Wildcat needs 2 good RB's and a good O-line to make it work. Its not because they dont practice it or believe in it. Obviously if we were to implemnt it here we would practice it and use it more. You dont run a diffrent formation without practicing it first. When JDouble was talking about us using it here, he knew we would practice it first. We wouldn't just decide to try it out in a game. Its common Knowledge you dont run plays that you haven't practiced or believe in. Miami isn't that great of a running team without the Wildcat. I actually think we would have success with the wildcat here. We have the right players for it to work. What teams have half assed the wildcat? Name me a team that has 2 great RB's and a good O-line that half assed the wildcat.

2:23pm, October 16, 2009

ezbucrider

Someone please let the coaching staff know there are ONLY 4 PRESEASON GAMES!

This "try-outs" in the regular season is BS - just about everyone knew that Leftwich would get slaughtered and Freeman wasn't(isn't) ready. Josh Johnson is THE MAN - no one gets the job unless he does something to lose it.
- Josh Johnson needs the reps now
- Josh Johnson needs to continue to sync with his line
- Josh Johnson needs gametime with his receivers
This is what we should be hearing from Olson.

They SAY "Confidence", but they don't DISPLAY "Confidence".

12:49am, October 17, 2009

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