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NFL Mock Draft 2/20 |
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With the NFL Scouting Combine just one week from now, Pewter Report issues its fourth mock draft of the year. Who is projected to go number one overall? Who will the Buccaneers take with the third overall pick? Who will Tampa Bay take with its two second-round picks? Find out here.
With the NFL Scouting Combine just one week from now Pewter Report provides a fourth NFL mock draft. As promised, the length of the mock draft has expanded beyond the first round. Pewter Report will continue to update the mock draft as the draft season moves into the combine, pro-days, and team visits. The deadline for the underclassmen to declare for the NFL draft has expired, so the draft eligible players are set. The early entries are marked with a *.
1. St. Louis Rams- Oklahoma QB Sam Bradford *
The Rams passed on Matt Ryan and Mark Sanchez. They won't do it again.
2. Detroit Lions- Nebraska DT Ndamukong Suh
Suh is the best football player in the draft. Schwartz gets his new Albert Haynesworth.
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Oklahoma DT Gerald McCoy *
Get the analysis here.
4. Washington Redskins- QB Jimmy Clausen *
There are character concerns with him, but Mike Shanahan takes guys like that.
5. Kansas City Chiefs- Oklahoma State OT Russell Okung
G.M. Scott Pioli has to protect his investment in QB Matt Cassel.
6. Seattle Seahawks- Tennessee S Eric Berry *
The Seahawks pass defense was bad last year. Bruce Campbell is an option here.
7. Cleveland Browns- Florida CB Joe Haden *
The Browns need a revamped secondary. Haden is good value here.
8. Oakland Raiders- Maryland OT Bruce Campbell *
Al Davis loves athletic freaks for their positions, Campbell is that.
9. Buffalo Bills- Rutgers OT Anthony Davis *
The Bills made a big mistake passing on Michael Oher last year.
10. Jacksonville Jaguars- South Florida DE Jason Pierre-Paul *
JPP is a hot prospect, but he has bust potential. They hope to get Tim Tebow later.
11. Denver Broncos (from Chicago)- Oklahoma State WR Dez Bryant *
Bryant is the top receiver in the draft and could replace Brandon Marshall.
12. Miami Dolphins- Alabama LB Rolando McClain *
Bill Parcells loves to draft linebackers in the first-round.
13. San Francisco 49ers- S Earl Thomas *
The 49ers figure they can get a tackle with their second pick.
14. Seattle Seahawks (from Denver)- Iowa OT Bryan Bulaga *
Bulaga fits their zone-blocking scheme and fills a big need at LT.
15. New York Giants- UCLA DT Brian Price*
They won the Super Bowl due to pass rush. Price gets them an interior rusher.
16. Tennessee Titans- Georgia Tech DE Derrick Morgan *
The Titans were hurting for a pass rush last season. Morgan is great value here.
17. San Francisco 49ers (from Carolina)- Oklahoma OT Trent Williams
He excelled at right tackle and that is a critical need for the 49ers.
18. Pittsburgh Steelers- Clemson RB C.J. Spiller
A surprise pick, but Willie Parker is one his way out.
19. Atlanta Falcons- Missouri LB Sean Weatherspoon
Mike Peterson is 34. Curtis Lofton needs help. Corner and safety are options.
20. Houston Texans- Boise State CB Kyle Wilson
The Texans could lose Dunta Robinson and need help in the secondary.
21. Green Bay Packers- Iowa OG Mike Iupati
The Packers need help along the line. Iupati could start right away for them.
22. Cincinnati Bengals- Oklahoma TE Jermaine Gresham *
Like Bradford, an injury isn't enough to keep him out of round one.
23. New England Patriots- Florida TE Aaron Hernandez *
Ben Watson is probably a goner. Hernandez is another weapon for Brady.
24. Philadelphia Eagles- Michigan DE Brandon Graham
The Eagles need a pass rusher opposite Trent Cole. Graham is a steal.
25. Baltimore Ravens- Notre Dame WR Golden Tate *
The Ravens badly need to find some receivers for Joe Flacco.
26. Arizona Cardinals- USC DE Everson Griffen *
The Cardinals could use an improved pass rush, Griffen is the best available.
27. Dallas Cowboys- USC S Taylor Mays
Great tools and upside, but he needs work. Jerry Jones likes big time athletes.
28. San Diego Chargers- Alabama DT Terrence Cody
The Chargers need a young nose tackle. Cody is a good fit.
29. New York Jets- Texas OLB Sergio Kindle
He would be a good fit as a 3-4 pass rusher in Rex Ryan's scheme.
30. Minnesota Vikings- Oklahoma State CB Perrish Cox
Cornerback became a big need when Cedric Griffin tore an ACL in the playoffs.
31. Indianapolis Colts- Penn State DT Jared Odrick
He fits multiple schemes, and is the athletic type the Colts look for at DT.
32. New Orleans Saints- Florida DE Carlos Dunlap *
Charles Grant could be on his way out. Dunlap is a physical freak.
SECOND ROUND
33. St. Louis- Illinois Arrelious Benn *
The Rams are looking for some more offensive weapons. Benn is big and fast.
34. Detroit- Georgia Tech RB Jonathan Dwyer *
Kevin Smith hasn't impressed the new Lions coaches. Stafford needs help.
35. Tampa Bay- TCU DE/OLB Jerry Hughes
Get the analysis here.
36. Kansas City- South Florida S Nate Allen
Pioli still lands a quality safety despite passing on Berry.
37. Washington- USC OT Charles Brown
Shanahan gets a tackle to replace Chris Samuels and protect Clausen.
38. Cleveland- LSU S Chad Jones *
Jones would be a first-rounder in a normal year.
39. Oakland- Florida G/C Maurkice Pouncey *
The Raiders need some help inside to block for Russell and McFadden.
40. Seattle- California RB Javhid Best *
Carroll knows how good a back that Best is from their PAC-10 battles.
41. Buffalo- Florida LB Brandon Spikes
The Bills need help at linebacker, and Spikes will be a good 3-4 ILB.
42. Tampa Bay (from Chicago)- Georgia Tech WR Demaryius Thomas *
Get the analysis here.
43. Miami- Tennessee DT Dan Williams
Williams is overrated like Robert Ayers in '09. He's better in the 3-4.
44. New England (from Jacksonville) - South Carolina OLB Eric Norwood
He fits well as a 3-4 OLB. He gives the Pats an upgraded pass rush.
45. Denver- Northwestern DT Corey Wootton
He fits well as a 3-4 defensive end. Wootton helps a weak run defense.
46. New York Giants- Georgia Tech S Morgan Burnett *
The G-men capitalize on a strong safety draft, and fill a huge need.
47. New England (from Tennessee) - Florida QB Tim Tebow
They could use him for a package and groom long-term. Brady is 33 this year.
48. Carolina- LSU WR Brandon LaFell
The Panthers extend the ongoing search for a player to pair with Steve Smith.
49. San Francisco- Florida State CB Patrick Robinson
The 49ers fill a big need. They'd love to land Joe Haden in round one.
50. Kansas City (from Atlanta) - North Carolina DT Cam Thomas
Had a great Senior Bowl. A good fit for a 3-4 team.
51. Houston- California DT Tyson Alualu
The Texans are looking for an impact defensive tackle.
52. Pittsburgh- Illinois G Jon Asamoah
The Steelers offensive line needs help.
53. New England- Texas WR Jordan Shipley
A replacement for Wes Welker in the short-term and a long-term starter.
54. Cincinnati- Kansas WR Dezmon Briscoe *
The Bengals get a playmaker, Briscoe has some Chad Johnson like qualities.
55. Philadelphia- Alabama CB Kareem Jackson *
The Eagles find a long-term replacement for Sheldon Brown.
56. Green Bay- Rutgers CB Devin McCourty
The Packers land an underrated cornerback at a need position.
57. Baltimore- Arizona TE Rob Gronkowski *
Todd Heap is having injury issues, Flacco gets another weapon.
58. Arizona- Michigan CB Donovan Warren *
He should have stayed in school. The Cardinals secondary was burnt at times.
59. Dallas- USC WR Damian Williams *
The Cowboys could use another receiving weapon.
60. San Diego- Fresno State RB Ryan Mathews *
The Chargers are looking for a long-term replacement for LaDanian Tomlinson.
61. New York Jets- Cincinnati WR Mardy Gilyard
The Jets could use a weapon for Mark Sanchez.
62. Minnesota- Texas DT Lamarr Houston
The Williams wall is getting up there in age. Houston is a good understudy.
63. Indianapolis- Massachusetts OT Vladimir Ducasse
He is physical and could move inside while he adjusts to the NFL.
64. New Orleans- Penn State OLB Navarro Bowman *
The Saints could be losing OLB Scott Fujita in free agency.
For some great mock drafts check out WalterFootball.com. They have weekly mock drafts from writers Walter Cherepinsky and Matt McGuire. Another great site is Scott Wright's DraftCountdown.com. They have a plethora of draft information that is worth checking out.
1. St. Louis Rams- Oklahoma QB Sam Bradford *
The Rams passed on Matt Ryan and Mark Sanchez. They won't do it again.
2. Detroit Lions- Nebraska DT Ndamukong Suh
Suh is the best football player in the draft. Schwartz gets his new Albert Haynesworth.
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Oklahoma DT Gerald McCoy *
Get the analysis here.
4. Washington Redskins- QB Jimmy Clausen *
There are character concerns with him, but Mike Shanahan takes guys like that.
5. Kansas City Chiefs- Oklahoma State OT Russell Okung
G.M. Scott Pioli has to protect his investment in QB Matt Cassel.
6. Seattle Seahawks- Tennessee S Eric Berry *
The Seahawks pass defense was bad last year. Bruce Campbell is an option here.
7. Cleveland Browns- Florida CB Joe Haden *
The Browns need a revamped secondary. Haden is good value here.
8. Oakland Raiders- Maryland OT Bruce Campbell *
Al Davis loves athletic freaks for their positions, Campbell is that.
9. Buffalo Bills- Rutgers OT Anthony Davis *
The Bills made a big mistake passing on Michael Oher last year.
10. Jacksonville Jaguars- South Florida DE Jason Pierre-Paul *
JPP is a hot prospect, but he has bust potential. They hope to get Tim Tebow later.
11. Denver Broncos (from Chicago)- Oklahoma State WR Dez Bryant *
Bryant is the top receiver in the draft and could replace Brandon Marshall.
12. Miami Dolphins- Alabama LB Rolando McClain *
Bill Parcells loves to draft linebackers in the first-round.
13. San Francisco 49ers- S Earl Thomas *
The 49ers figure they can get a tackle with their second pick.
14. Seattle Seahawks (from Denver)- Iowa OT Bryan Bulaga *
Bulaga fits their zone-blocking scheme and fills a big need at LT.
15. New York Giants- UCLA DT Brian Price*
They won the Super Bowl due to pass rush. Price gets them an interior rusher.
16. Tennessee Titans- Georgia Tech DE Derrick Morgan *
The Titans were hurting for a pass rush last season. Morgan is great value here.
17. San Francisco 49ers (from Carolina)- Oklahoma OT Trent Williams
He excelled at right tackle and that is a critical need for the 49ers.
18. Pittsburgh Steelers- Clemson RB C.J. Spiller
A surprise pick, but Willie Parker is one his way out.
19. Atlanta Falcons- Missouri LB Sean Weatherspoon
Mike Peterson is 34. Curtis Lofton needs help. Corner and safety are options.
20. Houston Texans- Boise State CB Kyle Wilson
The Texans could lose Dunta Robinson and need help in the secondary.
21. Green Bay Packers- Iowa OG Mike Iupati
The Packers need help along the line. Iupati could start right away for them.
22. Cincinnati Bengals- Oklahoma TE Jermaine Gresham *
Like Bradford, an injury isn't enough to keep him out of round one.
23. New England Patriots- Florida TE Aaron Hernandez *
Ben Watson is probably a goner. Hernandez is another weapon for Brady.
24. Philadelphia Eagles- Michigan DE Brandon Graham
The Eagles need a pass rusher opposite Trent Cole. Graham is a steal.
25. Baltimore Ravens- Notre Dame WR Golden Tate *
The Ravens badly need to find some receivers for Joe Flacco.
26. Arizona Cardinals- USC DE Everson Griffen *
The Cardinals could use an improved pass rush, Griffen is the best available.
27. Dallas Cowboys- USC S Taylor Mays
Great tools and upside, but he needs work. Jerry Jones likes big time athletes.
28. San Diego Chargers- Alabama DT Terrence Cody
The Chargers need a young nose tackle. Cody is a good fit.
29. New York Jets- Texas OLB Sergio Kindle
He would be a good fit as a 3-4 pass rusher in Rex Ryan's scheme.
30. Minnesota Vikings- Oklahoma State CB Perrish Cox
Cornerback became a big need when Cedric Griffin tore an ACL in the playoffs.
31. Indianapolis Colts- Penn State DT Jared Odrick
He fits multiple schemes, and is the athletic type the Colts look for at DT.
32. New Orleans Saints- Florida DE Carlos Dunlap *
Charles Grant could be on his way out. Dunlap is a physical freak.
SECOND ROUND
33. St. Louis- Illinois Arrelious Benn *
The Rams are looking for some more offensive weapons. Benn is big and fast.
34. Detroit- Georgia Tech RB Jonathan Dwyer *
Kevin Smith hasn't impressed the new Lions coaches. Stafford needs help.
35. Tampa Bay- TCU DE/OLB Jerry Hughes
Get the analysis here.
36. Kansas City- South Florida S Nate Allen
Pioli still lands a quality safety despite passing on Berry.
37. Washington- USC OT Charles Brown
Shanahan gets a tackle to replace Chris Samuels and protect Clausen.
38. Cleveland- LSU S Chad Jones *
Jones would be a first-rounder in a normal year.
39. Oakland- Florida G/C Maurkice Pouncey *
The Raiders need some help inside to block for Russell and McFadden.
40. Seattle- California RB Javhid Best *
Carroll knows how good a back that Best is from their PAC-10 battles.
41. Buffalo- Florida LB Brandon Spikes
The Bills need help at linebacker, and Spikes will be a good 3-4 ILB.
42. Tampa Bay (from Chicago)- Georgia Tech WR Demaryius Thomas *
Get the analysis here.
43. Miami- Tennessee DT Dan Williams
Williams is overrated like Robert Ayers in '09. He's better in the 3-4.
44. New England (from Jacksonville) - South Carolina OLB Eric Norwood
He fits well as a 3-4 OLB. He gives the Pats an upgraded pass rush.
45. Denver- Northwestern DT Corey Wootton
He fits well as a 3-4 defensive end. Wootton helps a weak run defense.
46. New York Giants- Georgia Tech S Morgan Burnett *
The G-men capitalize on a strong safety draft, and fill a huge need.
47. New England (from Tennessee) - Florida QB Tim Tebow
They could use him for a package and groom long-term. Brady is 33 this year.
48. Carolina- LSU WR Brandon LaFell
The Panthers extend the ongoing search for a player to pair with Steve Smith.
49. San Francisco- Florida State CB Patrick Robinson
The 49ers fill a big need. They'd love to land Joe Haden in round one.
50. Kansas City (from Atlanta) - North Carolina DT Cam Thomas
Had a great Senior Bowl. A good fit for a 3-4 team.
51. Houston- California DT Tyson Alualu
The Texans are looking for an impact defensive tackle.
52. Pittsburgh- Illinois G Jon Asamoah
The Steelers offensive line needs help.
53. New England- Texas WR Jordan Shipley
A replacement for Wes Welker in the short-term and a long-term starter.
54. Cincinnati- Kansas WR Dezmon Briscoe *
The Bengals get a playmaker, Briscoe has some Chad Johnson like qualities.
55. Philadelphia- Alabama CB Kareem Jackson *
The Eagles find a long-term replacement for Sheldon Brown.
56. Green Bay- Rutgers CB Devin McCourty
The Packers land an underrated cornerback at a need position.
57. Baltimore- Arizona TE Rob Gronkowski *
Todd Heap is having injury issues, Flacco gets another weapon.
58. Arizona- Michigan CB Donovan Warren *
He should have stayed in school. The Cardinals secondary was burnt at times.
59. Dallas- USC WR Damian Williams *
The Cowboys could use another receiving weapon.
60. San Diego- Fresno State RB Ryan Mathews *
The Chargers are looking for a long-term replacement for LaDanian Tomlinson.
61. New York Jets- Cincinnati WR Mardy Gilyard
The Jets could use a weapon for Mark Sanchez.
62. Minnesota- Texas DT Lamarr Houston
The Williams wall is getting up there in age. Houston is a good understudy.
63. Indianapolis- Massachusetts OT Vladimir Ducasse
He is physical and could move inside while he adjusts to the NFL.
64. New Orleans- Penn State OLB Navarro Bowman *
The Saints could be losing OLB Scott Fujita in free agency.
For some great mock drafts check out WalterFootball.com. They have weekly mock drafts from writers Walter Cherepinsky and Matt McGuire. Another great site is Scott Wright's DraftCountdown.com. They have a plethora of draft information that is worth checking out.
Comments
VeeJay24
Perfect!!!!!!!
8:33am, February 20, 2010
sunrisejeff
McCoy, Hughes and Thomas with our first three picks would be a great start to the draft but I'd almost like to take McCourty with 2B then address WR in 3rd and safety in the 4th. Would definetly be happy with this scenario though.
9:07am, February 20, 2010
mjmoody
So your telling me that with a broken foot, doing the combine on crutches, that Georgia Tech WR Demaryius Thomas still rates the 42nd overall pick in the very deep, very talented 2010 draft? He looks like a very solid #2 WR, especially if he's opposite one of the FA's available this year as a #1. I just thought the injury would push him down to the possible 3rd round, and that 2b might be a good place to get a CB, or another need.
9:07am, February 20, 2010
Architek79
mjmoody,
I agree 100%, prior to the injury I could see this being a solid selection but with a foot injury and given the amount of needs that we have this 2b pick could really sting a little bit. I would either pick a CB or dynamic LB (maybe WR like Shipley) with this pick. But I love the mock draft of having McCoy and Hughes. They both are high energy-high motor players that would make our defense tremendousl faster from day 1. I think it's going to be interesting to see what the Bucs do in the 3rd and 4th round because they have went on record saying that they must draft better in the middle of the draft.
I agree 100%, prior to the injury I could see this being a solid selection but with a foot injury and given the amount of needs that we have this 2b pick could really sting a little bit. I would either pick a CB or dynamic LB (maybe WR like Shipley) with this pick. But I love the mock draft of having McCoy and Hughes. They both are high energy-high motor players that would make our defense tremendousl faster from day 1. I think it's going to be interesting to see what the Bucs do in the 3rd and 4th round because they have went on record saying that they must draft better in the middle of the draft.
9:19am, February 20, 2010
Jesse
I think the injury is the only reason we can get D. Thomas in the middle of the second round. We should take advantage of that.
This mock seems much more realistic than the last, but there are still some very strange things. Like the Chargers taking Mount Cody in the furst, but Dan Williams goes midway thru the second? Unless Cody shows up at the combine 20 lbs lighter and lights it up...he is projected as a late 2nd to 3rd round pick right now.
I hate the Jerry Hughes pick as well. Strong Safety Chad Jones is still on the board, but we pass him up for a guy that is too small to be a DE, so he'll have to make the transition to OLB. I don't like taking transition guy, especially so early.
Atleast you don't have us take Jason Pierre-Paul like most mock drafts. How is this kid ranked so high? He payed ONE YEAR at a real college and while he did get alot of pressure, he had only had 6.5 sacks and struggled against the run. Anyone who takes him top ten or takes him over Derrick Morgan is an idiot in my book. Drafting for potential in the first round is a big No-No.
Anywho....swap Hughes with SS Chad Jones and this would be a very solid first two rounds for us.
This mock seems much more realistic than the last, but there are still some very strange things. Like the Chargers taking Mount Cody in the furst, but Dan Williams goes midway thru the second? Unless Cody shows up at the combine 20 lbs lighter and lights it up...he is projected as a late 2nd to 3rd round pick right now.
I hate the Jerry Hughes pick as well. Strong Safety Chad Jones is still on the board, but we pass him up for a guy that is too small to be a DE, so he'll have to make the transition to OLB. I don't like taking transition guy, especially so early.
Atleast you don't have us take Jason Pierre-Paul like most mock drafts. How is this kid ranked so high? He payed ONE YEAR at a real college and while he did get alot of pressure, he had only had 6.5 sacks and struggled against the run. Anyone who takes him top ten or takes him over Derrick Morgan is an idiot in my book. Drafting for potential in the first round is a big No-No.
Anywho....swap Hughes with SS Chad Jones and this would be a very solid first two rounds for us.
9:48am, February 20, 2010
estokes2827
come on people a broken foot not a torn ACL!!! I would love to get thomas at 2b I think he will open up the entire field because right now there are no team that respect mike clayton a little bit. Bring AB back, draft thomas, bring Caddy back and if Cromartie is really on the market give up that 4th round pick and a lot of our problems are solve. I love the first pick of (McCoy) course but I really feel we are going to have a chance at Dunlap at pick 2a and if we do we can not afford to pass on a talented, angry and hopefully motivated Dunlap.
9:49am, February 20, 2010
JDouble
You know everytime there is a mock draft, I gotta post mine too.....
Round One #1 - DT Ndomakung Suh
Round One #1 - DT Ndomakung Suh
10:26am, February 20, 2010
JDouble
Hahaha, I just spent 30 minutes doing my own persoanl 4 round mock for the Bucs with highlight links and bios and everything....and for some reason when I postedit, it cut it all off after Suh! Oh well.....Go Bucs!
10:30am, February 20, 2010
Trey888
I think someone is going to take a shot on Myron Rolle in the second. Too smart and talented to pass up in an ever important role at Safety
10:41am, February 20, 2010
JDouble
Round One pick #1 - DT Ndamukong Suh
Knowing that if the Rams take a DT at #1, the Lions will take the other DT at #2 and we will miss out on both, we know who our guy is and we go after him. We give the Rams our first second round pick to swap and draft Suh. He is a game changer that will instantly make everyone on our defense better. He is also very stong physically and mentally. A true leader which this teams needs badly, and a face of the franchise which this city needs badly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCDMM3IivZY
Round Two pick #11 - WR Golden Tate or Damaryius Thoms
Either of these WRs would make an immidiate impact on our offense. While Thomas is the prototypical stud WR and had the greatest potential, he doesn't seem very bright and I fear he will be another knucklehead once he gets paid. Golden Tate on the other reminds me of a Steve Smith/Hines Ward type of player and think he is the safer pick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMK59U6nCuw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikQaUdZrET8
Round Three pick #3 - WR Taylor Price
This guy has great size and play physical, and yet he is probably the fastest reciever in this draft. He runs a 4.2 He didn't have a great team or a great QB, but he made some great catches in college and showed real toughness. He opened some eyes at the Senior Bowl and after the combine, his stock might shoot up, but right now he is a late 2nd early 3rd round prospect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIOwxj0oh6Q
Round Three pick #15 - SS Kam Chancellor
I think we can get the Giants third round pick for Ward. They really missed him last year and know he can immediatly jump right back in to splitting carries with Brandon JAcobs and be productive.....Kam Chancellor is the hardest hitting safety in this draft hands down. Some questioned his speed and ability to cover, even suggesting he might play LB in the NFL. He silenced those critics with a strong showing at the Senior Bowl. He can come in and challenge Sabby for the starting spot from day one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6PC-drS9IA
Round Four pick #3 - RB LeGarrette Blount
This kid is a great running back. 6ft 240lbs and runs a 4.4 He had three 1000+ yards seasons in a row. If he hadn't lost his head after that loss and punched that dousche bag for taunting him, he'd be a 1st round lock. He might be a bit of a roughneck, but he could be the steal of the draft in the 4th round. With him and Kareem Huggins in the backfield, we could have thunder & lightning again!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il-18rW2muM
So, two recievers and a running back that can start from day one for this offense, an absolutely great DT and a hard hitting strong safety. What else could you ask for? Signing DE Aaron Kampman would be a good idea, but this draft fills are biggest holes. I think we would be a very good team next year with this draft.
Knowing that if the Rams take a DT at #1, the Lions will take the other DT at #2 and we will miss out on both, we know who our guy is and we go after him. We give the Rams our first second round pick to swap and draft Suh. He is a game changer that will instantly make everyone on our defense better. He is also very stong physically and mentally. A true leader which this teams needs badly, and a face of the franchise which this city needs badly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCDMM3IivZY
Round Two pick #11 - WR Golden Tate or Damaryius Thoms
Either of these WRs would make an immidiate impact on our offense. While Thomas is the prototypical stud WR and had the greatest potential, he doesn't seem very bright and I fear he will be another knucklehead once he gets paid. Golden Tate on the other reminds me of a Steve Smith/Hines Ward type of player and think he is the safer pick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMK59U6nCuw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikQaUdZrET8
Round Three pick #3 - WR Taylor Price
This guy has great size and play physical, and yet he is probably the fastest reciever in this draft. He runs a 4.2 He didn't have a great team or a great QB, but he made some great catches in college and showed real toughness. He opened some eyes at the Senior Bowl and after the combine, his stock might shoot up, but right now he is a late 2nd early 3rd round prospect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIOwxj0oh6Q
Round Three pick #15 - SS Kam Chancellor
I think we can get the Giants third round pick for Ward. They really missed him last year and know he can immediatly jump right back in to splitting carries with Brandon JAcobs and be productive.....Kam Chancellor is the hardest hitting safety in this draft hands down. Some questioned his speed and ability to cover, even suggesting he might play LB in the NFL. He silenced those critics with a strong showing at the Senior Bowl. He can come in and challenge Sabby for the starting spot from day one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6PC-drS9IA
Round Four pick #3 - RB LeGarrette Blount
This kid is a great running back. 6ft 240lbs and runs a 4.4 He had three 1000+ yards seasons in a row. If he hadn't lost his head after that loss and punched that dousche bag for taunting him, he'd be a 1st round lock. He might be a bit of a roughneck, but he could be the steal of the draft in the 4th round. With him and Kareem Huggins in the backfield, we could have thunder & lightning again!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il-18rW2muM
So, two recievers and a running back that can start from day one for this offense, an absolutely great DT and a hard hitting strong safety. What else could you ask for? Signing DE Aaron Kampman would be a good idea, but this draft fills are biggest holes. I think we would be a very good team next year with this draft.
10:52am, February 20, 2010
Jesse
Trey888:
I think Myron Rolle could be the best safety to ever play the game if he wanted to be. The thing is he has repeatedly let it be known that becoming a neuro surgeon is his ultimate and most important goal. Have you seen how mangled and disfigured NFL defensive player's fingers get? I think he realizes within 2-3 years that he can't do both and retires. Not worth the risk IMO.
I think Myron Rolle could be the best safety to ever play the game if he wanted to be. The thing is he has repeatedly let it be known that becoming a neuro surgeon is his ultimate and most important goal. Have you seen how mangled and disfigured NFL defensive player's fingers get? I think he realizes within 2-3 years that he can't do both and retires. Not worth the risk IMO.
10:56am, February 20, 2010
JacoBucs
Did we get a 5th rounder or a 6th rounder from Jacksonville for McCown?
11:27am, February 20, 2010
ahenneke
I think that getting Suh or McCoy is wishful thinking. The Rams clearly need a QB, but would you really take a QB at #1 this year? I wouldn't. So what happens if the DT's are gone at #3? Trading down always sounds like a great idea, but it is hard to do. #3 seems too high for Berry? What do you guys think? Perhaps an OT?
11:28am, February 20, 2010
JacoBucs
I'd like to see how our current LB core does with Suh or McCoy and Kampman added to the line. I think everyone would fall in love with Ruud again. Geno Hayes and Quincy Black might just show that they are worthy starters with a solid D-line in front of them and a year's starting experience under thier belt.
Is Tim Crowder under contract next year? I really think he would benefit from being of a solid line as well. I hope he's under contract cause I liked what I saw from him and think he could be a starter.
Is Tim Crowder under contract next year? I really think he would benefit from being of a solid line as well. I hope he's under contract cause I liked what I saw from him and think he could be a starter.
11:38am, February 20, 2010
TampaBucks05
JDUB
I would rather draft down, granted Suh and McCoy are off the board. If the first two picks are spent on DTs, there would be around 10 teams who may consider trading up with us for #3 to get Bradford/Clausen. That would be A LOT of competition. We may get more than a 1st and 2nd for our #3, if there is enough demand.
So, say we got a 1st and 2nd from the Browns, for example. Here go the first three rounds.
1. Brian Price
2. Chad Jones
2. Charles Brown
2. Demarius Thomas
3. Kareem Jackson
3. Dexter McCluster
We would be a significantly improved team, across the board.
I would rather draft down, granted Suh and McCoy are off the board. If the first two picks are spent on DTs, there would be around 10 teams who may consider trading up with us for #3 to get Bradford/Clausen. That would be A LOT of competition. We may get more than a 1st and 2nd for our #3, if there is enough demand.
So, say we got a 1st and 2nd from the Browns, for example. Here go the first three rounds.
1. Brian Price
2. Chad Jones
2. Charles Brown
2. Demarius Thomas
3. Kareem Jackson
3. Dexter McCluster
We would be a significantly improved team, across the board.
11:40am, February 20, 2010
Jesse
Hey ahenneke, let's pray that doesn't happen, but if Suh and McCoy are gone and we can't trade out of #3....I think we have togo OT or Joe Haden. Only picks that make sense. There are no DEs worthy of the #3 spot, and taking a safety or middle linebacker would be stupid. QB, Pass Rusher, OT, and CB.....the only four positions smart teams draft in the top 10.
11:42am, February 20, 2010
TampaBucks05
extra 3rd traded for our two 4ths
11:44am, February 20, 2010
JDouble
TampaBucks05 I get what your saying and I've been preaching to pick up as many 2nd rounders as possible all offseason. The thing is I've fallen for Suh. I think he is as close to a sure thing as you can get, as well as a team leader and a face to the franchise. Brian Price wouldn't be a bad pick at all....but I don't see him having anywhere near the same impact as Suh.
It's a worthy debate. I've just switched sides of the fence and decided Suh is worth it. It's of course just an opinion, but that's how i feel.
It's a worthy debate. I've just switched sides of the fence and decided Suh is worth it. It's of course just an opinion, but that's how i feel.
11:49am, February 20, 2010
Architek79
JDouble I don't like several elements of your draft because you are basing that mock draft off of trades and hypotheticals. Why not just make a mock draft straight up and disregard the trading up and moving down. Let us see your skills...:-)
Oh and you can forget about 30 yr old Ward going to the Giants when they will seek to get younger and more explosive.
Oh and you can forget about 30 yr old Ward going to the Giants when they will seek to get younger and more explosive.
11:49am, February 20, 2010
JDouble
Architek79, I think mock drafts this year that don't include trades are pointless. I don't think for a second that everyone in the top ten will stay put. I'm just not buying it. The Bucs of all teams should move. Either up to take Suh or down....cause if Suh and McCoy are gone, we'd be fools to stay at #3. So I feel it's a waste of time to mock a scenerio when it's so unlikely.
11:53am, February 20, 2010
jongruden
Jdouble- there is no way we come out of this draft without addressing DE
11:55am, February 20, 2010
TampaBucks05
JDUB
Yeah, I mean we are pretty much in a win-win situation come April. I wouldn't mind trading up if that report from scouts is accurate. A 1st and a 3rd + JJ for Suh, Ill take that.
Yeah, I mean we are pretty much in a win-win situation come April. I wouldn't mind trading up if that report from scouts is accurate. A 1st and a 3rd + JJ for Suh, Ill take that.
12:01pm, February 20, 2010
TampaBucks05
GRUDEN
Don't you think that if we land Kampman and Graham is off the board come 2nd rnd (which he almost definatley will be), we will overlook DEs this draft?
Don't you think that if we land Kampman and Graham is off the board come 2nd rnd (which he almost definatley will be), we will overlook DEs this draft?
12:05pm, February 20, 2010
cremdonado
Thomas should no longer be listed-he is broken now-who is to say he will be ready to go when the time comes?We spent a hell of a lot of time waiting for a busted Bryant to return to form,I think he still hasn't(returned to form that is)...Lets look at Shipley or a guy who shows up at the combine-lets not book on a wounded player...
And Suh should not be wasted on going to the crap Lions- that organization f**kin' blows !! how many top 5 guys does that team have and they still suck ?!-Suh goes to Detroit,consider it the last you will see of him,that team has a way of making great players mediocre .......
And Suh should not be wasted on going to the crap Lions- that organization f**kin' blows !! how many top 5 guys does that team have and they still suck ?!-Suh goes to Detroit,consider it the last you will see of him,that team has a way of making great players mediocre .......
12:56pm, February 20, 2010
jongruden
TampaBucks05- why does our dependacy only rest with Graham there are alot of De's in this draft and would you like to go into the season with Crowder and Stlyz as your starting DE's? Both of those guys are rotational type players not full time.
1:01pm, February 20, 2010
jongruden
TampaBucks05- why does our dependacy only rest with Graham there are alot of De's in this draft and would you like to go into the season with Crowder and Stlyz as your starting DE's? Both of those guys are rotational type players not full time.
1:01pm, February 20, 2010
Jesse
Graham isn't the only option at DE, that is for sure, but I don't think taking a DE in the first 3 rounds is a sure thing like you suggest jongruden. Signing Kampman would fill that hole for the time being. Besides that, if we get a three technique DT in the middle that is actually penetrating and wreaking havoc up the middle, you might just be surprised at how much better our DEs look.
Our problem has been that our DEs always end up behind the QB because our DTs get pushed back and the QB can step up in the pocket. If Suh or McCoy, along with Miller can start getting pressure up the middle instead of getting dominated like Hovan and Sims have.....the QB can't step and all the sudden our mediocre DEs start getting alot of sacks.
We definetly need a playmaker at DE, but you can't do everything in one year. Austen Lane in the 4th or 5th could be an option, but I see DT and SS being the biggest issues with our defense, and I think that Dom and Morris will address those postions thru darft or trade. Other than that I think they consentrate on weapons for Freeman. Upgrade at DE or LB would be nice, but not absolutely necessary. Weapons for our 2nd year franchise QB is.
What's worse...filling a hole with Kampman for a few years or Freeman's only weapons being Clayton and Stovall next year?
Our problem has been that our DEs always end up behind the QB because our DTs get pushed back and the QB can step up in the pocket. If Suh or McCoy, along with Miller can start getting pressure up the middle instead of getting dominated like Hovan and Sims have.....the QB can't step and all the sudden our mediocre DEs start getting alot of sacks.
We definetly need a playmaker at DE, but you can't do everything in one year. Austen Lane in the 4th or 5th could be an option, but I see DT and SS being the biggest issues with our defense, and I think that Dom and Morris will address those postions thru darft or trade. Other than that I think they consentrate on weapons for Freeman. Upgrade at DE or LB would be nice, but not absolutely necessary. Weapons for our 2nd year franchise QB is.
What's worse...filling a hole with Kampman for a few years or Freeman's only weapons being Clayton and Stovall next year?
1:31pm, February 20, 2010
H.oneG
Cremdonado don't be an idiot. It's a broken bone in his foot that takes 4-6 weeks to heal, not a freaking ACL tear or something. We are lucky this happened cause he would have gone in the first round. Now we might have a chance to grab him and we are idiots if we pass on him in the second round.
Shipley is a joke. He is an injury prone 6 year senior. 25 year old rookie that lacks elite speed or quickness. He looks great in college cause he is like 6 years older than alot of the guys he is playing with. I'll pass.
Shipley is a joke. He is an injury prone 6 year senior. 25 year old rookie that lacks elite speed or quickness. He looks great in college cause he is like 6 years older than alot of the guys he is playing with. I'll pass.
1:50pm, February 20, 2010
JDouble
100% agree on DE not being a top need this year. Jason Pierre-Paul or Derrick Morgan will be Gaines Adams 2.0 without a real 3 tech DT in the middle doing his job well. Untill we get a real playmaking DT in the middle, there is no reason to draft a high DE. This is the 4-3 cover two folks. It ALL revolves around the DTs.
A guy like Suh or even McCoy would instantly make our DEs better for the reason Jesse staed, our LBs better because RBs and O-lineman won't we flying up the middle untouched, and even our secondary better because the QB will have less time to make accurate passes and WRs will have less time to get open.
A guy like Suh or even McCoy would instantly make our DEs better for the reason Jesse staed, our LBs better because RBs and O-lineman won't we flying up the middle untouched, and even our secondary better because the QB will have less time to make accurate passes and WRs will have less time to get open.
1:57pm, February 20, 2010
cremdonado
honeg- Is it really just a bone in his foot or is there more to the injury?If its worse-his camp will not give out that kind of info to protect his draft status..He is a solid player yes,but what is the true extent of the injury?Darren McFadden had a broken bone in his foot and has never really run the same way since his surgery..That was a simple "bone in the foot" injury......
I also mention shipley because we need a back up plan,not because I am in love with the guy-Until Thomas shows its just a minor thing,we need a back up plan for receiver..
I also mention shipley because we need a back up plan,not because I am in love with the guy-Until Thomas shows its just a minor thing,we need a back up plan for receiver..
2:06pm, February 20, 2010
cremdonado
Honeg- one more thing- a buddy of mine stress fractured his foot several months ago -and still needs a boot from time to time to ease the pain...Thats 8 -12 weeks and still not the same.Im sayin its not always that simple and routine...
2:10pm, February 20, 2010
TampaBucks05
GRUDEN
Its not that I think Graham is the only DE worth looking at in the draft, there are plenty of them. DE is just not going to be our biggest concern for this April, especially since we have a good chance of aquiring a starter through trades or FA. If Graham were to fall to the 2nd round we would have to take him, it would be a steal (he is the only first round caliber DE I can picture falling into the 2nd, but as I said that is highly unlikley), that was all I was getting at.
Getting back to Kampman. If we can aquire a DE like Kampan or Vanden Bosch or Merriman or Umenyiora(please god!), it would fulfil our need at the position. After that we could let Kyle Moore, Jimmy, StylesG!White battle it out for the starting gig. If none of them standout put all three on raotation, as you said they are good part time players.
With a defensive like that consisted of, lets say,
Kampan / Miller/ Suh / Moore
The Bucs would be set, I dont think there is any arguing that.
Its not that I think Graham is the only DE worth looking at in the draft, there are plenty of them. DE is just not going to be our biggest concern for this April, especially since we have a good chance of aquiring a starter through trades or FA. If Graham were to fall to the 2nd round we would have to take him, it would be a steal (he is the only first round caliber DE I can picture falling into the 2nd, but as I said that is highly unlikley), that was all I was getting at.
Getting back to Kampman. If we can aquire a DE like Kampan or Vanden Bosch or Merriman or Umenyiora(please god!), it would fulfil our need at the position. After that we could let Kyle Moore, Jimmy, StylesG!White battle it out for the starting gig. If none of them standout put all three on raotation, as you said they are good part time players.
With a defensive like that consisted of, lets say,
Kampan / Miller/ Suh / Moore
The Bucs would be set, I dont think there is any arguing that.
2:16pm, February 20, 2010
TampaBucks05
**line
2:24pm, February 20, 2010
H.oneG
cremdonado your buddy isn't a 1st round NFL prospect either. No offense, but I don't see how your buddies broken foot has anything to do with a 20 year old athlete in his prime. Also, he won't be particapting in the drills at the combine, but he will still get measured, do interviews, and have a full medical check. It's not like we'll be flying blind.
2:48pm, February 20, 2010
JDouble
Exactly TampaBucks05. We can plug the DE hole for now with a FA or trade or worst case scenerio, make it thru the year with what we've got. What we need to do is make sure we get Suh or McCoy in the middle to anchor the line.
There are really no amazing DEs in this draft anyways. The top rated guy is a one year wonder for gawds sake! I think the top 3 DEs this year's draft would easily be 2nd rounders most other years.
There are really no amazing DEs in this draft anyways. The top rated guy is a one year wonder for gawds sake! I think the top 3 DEs this year's draft would easily be 2nd rounders most other years.
2:54pm, February 20, 2010
naborhood
i feel number 3 is not too high for berry if the 2 dt's are gone. just because he's a safety shouldn't matter if he has football skills. why reach on a player just because of the position he plays when you can get someone in the later rounds that might be just as good in the later rounds.
3:20pm, February 20, 2010
naborhood
i mean at the same position.
3:22pm, February 20, 2010
cremdonado
honeg-its obvious you has something of a personal investment in the pick up(whatever it maybe),But until its proven to be nothing but a minor injury we need a back up plan...He is a solid player-no one is questioning that,an injury before the combine is a concern..Maybe we still pick him up-maybe this situation makes him a forgotten prospect on other teams boards-increasing our chances of landing him...BUT-this injury has yet to be proven as "nothing",wait and see BUT also have a back up plan...
3:25pm, February 20, 2010
TampaBucks05
CREM
Nothing against your opinion but you have to keep guys like Sammie Stroughter in mind. I know he wasn't our best reciever, but he did some great things for our team this past season.
He was overlooked by every team and we stole him in the 7th. Remember that he was supposed to be a top draft pick before the injury that ended his collegiate career(which is much more serious of an injury than Thomas').
Considering Thomas' injury is minor, he would be a great pickup for us if he fell to the second round.
Nothing against your opinion but you have to keep guys like Sammie Stroughter in mind. I know he wasn't our best reciever, but he did some great things for our team this past season.
He was overlooked by every team and we stole him in the 7th. Remember that he was supposed to be a top draft pick before the injury that ended his collegiate career(which is much more serious of an injury than Thomas').
Considering Thomas' injury is minor, he would be a great pickup for us if he fell to the second round.
4:29pm, February 20, 2010
FLBoyInDallas
Not only did the Rams pass up Matt Ryan & Mark Sanchez, they passed up Jay Cutler & Josh Freeman. That's 4 franchise signal callers passed up. The fan base there is screaming for a franchise QB and the Rams have screwed up so many times now that it will be difficult to pass on Bradford or Clausen, whichever is the highest rated one on their board.
We WILL be in position to draft McCoy at #3 if we want to. The question is if Dominik sees Suh as a franchise-changing type of player and wants to move up to grab him, or if he covets more 2nd round picks and wants to trade down. I say stay put and grab McCoy.
We WILL be in position to draft McCoy at #3 if we want to. The question is if Dominik sees Suh as a franchise-changing type of player and wants to move up to grab him, or if he covets more 2nd round picks and wants to trade down. I say stay put and grab McCoy.
4:41pm, February 20, 2010
H.oneG
Your right cremdonado, I'm sure the chances that a broken foot will end his career. He'll never be good now. Darn it.
5:18pm, February 20, 2010
Jesse
If the Rams have any sense at all, they will take Suh and draft QB Jake Locker next year. I hope for the Bucs sake they have no sense.
5:21pm, February 20, 2010
jongruden
I see your point for upgrading the DT position but Kyle Moore, Stylz White, and Tim Crowder do nothing to keep qb's up at night. I didn't say take one with the first but use one of the second rounders on a De instead of two on a wr like JDouble suggested. I would even trade one of the seconf rounders for Marshall or Boldin. Yes JDouble I know you don't believe Denver would do that but #3 in the second round is not that much different from a first rounder and Denver is sick of Marshall's antic's and after seeing how Dallas had to put up with owens that is going to scare teams off fromm onvesting a first or it's just wishfull thinking on my part, who knows.
5:25pm, February 20, 2010
jongruden
I'm a lousy typer excuse me
5:27pm, February 20, 2010
TampaBucks05
GRUDEN
So what 2nd round DE do you propose we draft?
If JPP, Griffen, Graham, or Morgan fell to the 2nd drating them would be a no brainer(as I already have stated). The only one of those who may realisticly fall to the 2nd round is Graham, but even that would be a stretch. Those are the only people I would draft as far as DEs go(I wouldn't spend a first rounder on any of them), there are too many players who could fill other, priority, positions later in the draft.
Although our current DEs "don't keep QBs up at night", playing along side playmakers like Suh and Kampman would be an automatic boost to thier talent level.
So what 2nd round DE do you propose we draft?
If JPP, Griffen, Graham, or Morgan fell to the 2nd drating them would be a no brainer(as I already have stated). The only one of those who may realisticly fall to the 2nd round is Graham, but even that would be a stretch. Those are the only people I would draft as far as DEs go(I wouldn't spend a first rounder on any of them), there are too many players who could fill other, priority, positions later in the draft.
Although our current DEs "don't keep QBs up at night", playing along side playmakers like Suh and Kampman would be an automatic boost to thier talent level.
6:32pm, February 20, 2010
TampaBucks05
Besides Kyle Moore was a rookie last year, a rookie who played through injuries after looking sharp in the pre-season. Im not sure why everyone is writing that kid off. He still has an opportunity to have a very fruitful NFL career.
6:43pm, February 20, 2010
JDouble
I was more impressed with Tim Crowder last year than Kyle Moore, but who knows...either one could be pretty good if they were on a great defensive line. I think along side Miller, Suh, and Kampman...any of our DEs would shine. Stylez G. White is getting old, but even he has shown flashes of greatness. He might just blow up if he played on a solid line.
My reasoning is a weak crop of DEs. There are alot of great prospects this year. We can get starter caliber players all the way into the 3rd. I'd rather see us take the best cuality players and I don't think that will be a DE this year. Just my opinion.
As far a Brandon Marshall goes, Bill Bellichek has a nack for taking knuckleheads and taming them. With Moss getting old and Welker likely done.....and the Patriots owning 4 picks in the first 53.....I'm surprised noone is talking about the Patriots getting Marshall. If the Patriots gave the Broncos thier first round pick (#22) for Marshall....Denver would be happy to have two first round picks and the Patriots would have Marshall and still have three 2nd round picks. I foresee this as being the deal that gets done....which is also why Peppers won't go to New England. They can't afford to do both. Not that I want peppers here, I just don't think he'll go to New England.
My reasoning is a weak crop of DEs. There are alot of great prospects this year. We can get starter caliber players all the way into the 3rd. I'd rather see us take the best cuality players and I don't think that will be a DE this year. Just my opinion.
As far a Brandon Marshall goes, Bill Bellichek has a nack for taking knuckleheads and taming them. With Moss getting old and Welker likely done.....and the Patriots owning 4 picks in the first 53.....I'm surprised noone is talking about the Patriots getting Marshall. If the Patriots gave the Broncos thier first round pick (#22) for Marshall....Denver would be happy to have two first round picks and the Patriots would have Marshall and still have three 2nd round picks. I foresee this as being the deal that gets done....which is also why Peppers won't go to New England. They can't afford to do both. Not that I want peppers here, I just don't think he'll go to New England.
8:05pm, February 20, 2010
jrwilson85
Charley, I hope it falls just like you called it. Very nice.
2:48am, February 21, 2010
cozart
geez has knowone seen any tape on hughes? everyone is high on grahm (including myself) but take a look at their numbers - very similar. their both undersized and both have been extremely productive. heck hughes led the nation in sacks his junior year. i would be thrilled to land either of these guys.
9:19am, February 21, 2010
JacoBucs
Jerry Hughes with our first 2nd round pick?!?! and some of you think that's perfect? What a joke.
First off every site I have seen has Jerry Hughes listed as an OLB, not a DE, He is about 6 lbs heavier than Barret Ruud. Do you really want to draft a guy that undersized to play DE? Even is he was one of the rare undersized freaks that could still get pressure on the QB at his size, do you think he's gonna play the run well?
If you saying draft him to be an OLB, that is also ridiculous. Why is the world would you draft a guy so high to play a new position? He has been a DE in the 3 point stance while in collehe, there is noway of knowing he'll be a good OLB.
Lastly, everyone has him listed as an OLB, but not even a top OLB. If you put any faith in Scout inc., they have him listed as the 7th best OLB in the draft, or the 84th best overall player. That is an early to middle 3rd round pick....and yet you guys are excited about taking him at the beginning of the 2nd round? Horrible.
First off every site I have seen has Jerry Hughes listed as an OLB, not a DE, He is about 6 lbs heavier than Barret Ruud. Do you really want to draft a guy that undersized to play DE? Even is he was one of the rare undersized freaks that could still get pressure on the QB at his size, do you think he's gonna play the run well?
If you saying draft him to be an OLB, that is also ridiculous. Why is the world would you draft a guy so high to play a new position? He has been a DE in the 3 point stance while in collehe, there is noway of knowing he'll be a good OLB.
Lastly, everyone has him listed as an OLB, but not even a top OLB. If you put any faith in Scout inc., they have him listed as the 7th best OLB in the draft, or the 84th best overall player. That is an early to middle 3rd round pick....and yet you guys are excited about taking him at the beginning of the 2nd round? Horrible.
9:19am, February 21, 2010
JacoBucs
The combine can change things in a hurry, as of right now Jason Pierre-Paull and Derrick Morgan will be gone early in the first round. Dunlap, Griffen, and Graham will be the next three DEs off the board and will likely all go in the first round. If one of those three make it to the #3 pick of the second round, then we should probably draft that DE. IF they all go in the first as expected, then we are stupid to reach for a DE with this pick. The next 5 DEs are projected as middle to late 2nd rounders and leading the pack is Rickey Sapp, which is Waaaay to small at 250 lbs. If we take a DE in the first three rounds it will likely be Corey Wooten with our 3rd round pick.
9:31am, February 21, 2010
ILoveMeSomeFire
If we trade for Rhodes and get someone like Kampmen and the draft goes like this for us I think our defense would be in decent shape to be finished with next years draft.
If this is how it goes then we should pick up Gerhart in the third and we will be set...
If this is how it goes then we should pick up Gerhart in the third and we will be set...
10:28am, February 21, 2010
JDouble
These are the guys I'd like to see us draft. The "< " marks the guys I really, really like. Go Bucs!
RB
LeGarrette Blount 4th-5th <
CJ Spiller 1st
Ryan Mathews 2nd
Toby Gerhart 3rd
WR
Golden Tate 1st-2nd <
Taylor Price 3rd-4th <
Damaryius Thomas 2nd
Jeremy Williams 4th
Marty Gillyard 2nd-3rd
DT
Ndamukong Suh 1st <
Mike Neal 3rd <
Brian Price 1st
Gerald McCoy 1st
Tyson Alualu 2nd-3rd
Lamaar Houston 2nd
DE
Austen Lane 4th <
Everson Griffen 1st-2nd
Corey Wooten 2nd
LB
Sean Weatherspoon 1st-2nd <
AJ Edds 4th-5th <
Micah Johnson 2nd-4th
Perry Riley 4th
CB
Akwasi Owusu-Annsah 3rd-5th <
Walter Thurmond 4th-5th <
Joe haden 1st
Donavan Warren 1st-2nd
Crezdon Butler 5th-7th
SS
Kam Chancellor 3rd-4th <
Darrell Stuckey 3rd-4th <
Chad Jones 2nd
RB
LeGarrette Blount 4th-5th <
CJ Spiller 1st
Ryan Mathews 2nd
Toby Gerhart 3rd
WR
Golden Tate 1st-2nd <
Taylor Price 3rd-4th <
Damaryius Thomas 2nd
Jeremy Williams 4th
Marty Gillyard 2nd-3rd
DT
Ndamukong Suh 1st <
Mike Neal 3rd <
Brian Price 1st
Gerald McCoy 1st
Tyson Alualu 2nd-3rd
Lamaar Houston 2nd
DE
Austen Lane 4th <
Everson Griffen 1st-2nd
Corey Wooten 2nd
LB
Sean Weatherspoon 1st-2nd <
AJ Edds 4th-5th <
Micah Johnson 2nd-4th
Perry Riley 4th
CB
Akwasi Owusu-Annsah 3rd-5th <
Walter Thurmond 4th-5th <
Joe haden 1st
Donavan Warren 1st-2nd
Crezdon Butler 5th-7th
SS
Kam Chancellor 3rd-4th <
Darrell Stuckey 3rd-4th <
Chad Jones 2nd
10:51am, February 21, 2010
cremdonado
ho neg -sorry I am not excited about the thought of a injured receiver and placing too much value in his stock..It might be a minor injury but it has yet to be proven..Maybe I am a bit gun shy when it comes to receivers,noting what the Bucs have gone through with Galloway and Bryant over the last few seasons..I hope you are right about Thomas,I just am not as sold on him as you appear....
tampabucks-If you read my other posts you would have read i was all about keeping our options open-this is a mock draft,not the real thing-all speculation...Many of you like to speculate that Thomas(aside from his injury) is our best move at that point-all I said is lets keep our options open...You bring up Sammys name,he proves my point...Also a guy named Colston comes to mind....Think of all the guys who were rated better than he was when he was drafted,but who has proven to be a solid pick..
tampabucks-If you read my other posts you would have read i was all about keeping our options open-this is a mock draft,not the real thing-all speculation...Many of you like to speculate that Thomas(aside from his injury) is our best move at that point-all I said is lets keep our options open...You bring up Sammys name,he proves my point...Also a guy named Colston comes to mind....Think of all the guys who were rated better than he was when he was drafted,but who has proven to be a solid pick..
11:02am, February 21, 2010
JDouble
Demaryius Thomas's stats are not all that impressive, but he was in a wierd offense that used 5 OT, 3 RB, and either two TEs or a TE and WR. They ran the ball 82% of the time. It's not fare to judge the kid from his stats in this situation, but if you watch his tape you'll see he is a true playmaker.
The dude has some red flags that should concern Tampa fans. He has very little route running experience from playing in the wierd, run heavy triple option offense. If you watch some interviews, you'll also see that "Bey Bey" is pretty country and isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. These things don't mean he won't be great, but they are a concern.
The broken foot is not. He has missed exactly one game in his High Scool and College career due to a concussion. Never been injured. The broken foot is unfortunate, but in the end, it means very little in terms of a 10-12 year NFL career. Demaryuis's stock jumped dramaticly two weeks ago because he reportedly ran a 4.38 forty. Then three days later he breaks his foot.
I think if you agreed with the notion that he was a top three WR last week, he should still be a top 3 WR now. If he is there in the second round, I think we have to take him.
The dude has some red flags that should concern Tampa fans. He has very little route running experience from playing in the wierd, run heavy triple option offense. If you watch some interviews, you'll also see that "Bey Bey" is pretty country and isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. These things don't mean he won't be great, but they are a concern.
The broken foot is not. He has missed exactly one game in his High Scool and College career due to a concussion. Never been injured. The broken foot is unfortunate, but in the end, it means very little in terms of a 10-12 year NFL career. Demaryuis's stock jumped dramaticly two weeks ago because he reportedly ran a 4.38 forty. Then three days later he breaks his foot.
I think if you agreed with the notion that he was a top three WR last week, he should still be a top 3 WR now. If he is there in the second round, I think we have to take him.
1:06pm, February 21, 2010
Jesse
I think we should seriously consider trading next years 1st round pick for more 2nd round picks this year. I think people are seriously under estimating the talent level of this years draft. With the CBA/uncapped year situation and a rookie salary cap looming...ALOT of juniors declared early. I think there is more talent in the first two rounds of this draft than there has been in well over a decade.
I also think so many juniors declaring early this year will make for a very weak draft next year. Therefore, I think two second round picks this year would be better than our first rounder next year. Just a thought.
I also think so many juniors declaring early this year will make for a very weak draft next year. Therefore, I think two second round picks this year would be better than our first rounder next year. Just a thought.
1:18pm, February 21, 2010
1bucfanjeff
The Raiders will probably take bay-bay with their 1st round pick...lol.
If the JJ and a 3rd is true to move up, it all depends on how the Bucs feel about JJ. My guess is they know the Rams are going to take a QB and they either hold out for a 4 and JJ, or stay put and take their chances. Assuming the rumor is true.
If the JJ and a 3rd is true to move up, it all depends on how the Bucs feel about JJ. My guess is they know the Rams are going to take a QB and they either hold out for a 4 and JJ, or stay put and take their chances. Assuming the rumor is true.
7:12pm, February 21, 2010
Jesse
Maybe I'm out of the loop. What rumors are you refering to? Are you saying the Rams might take Josh Johnson and our 3rd to swap 1st round pick? Ifso, that is absurd and would never happen. Am I just misunderstanding what the rumor is? or is that really what your saying?
7:21pm, February 21, 2010
Jesse
So I just saw the "rumor" on NFL network. Even though everyhting I know says there is not a chance in hell of this happening....I sure hope it's true! lol
I wonder what we'd do for a back up QB if we let JJ go? Unlike alot of fans, I thought JJ showed alot of promise. I think it would really suck to lose him, but definetly worth it if we got Suh out of the deal. Wonder why the Rams would want him? I'm sure they'd be taking Bradford with the #3 pick if the trade happened. It would be hillarious if they took an offensive lineman and made JJ the starter! lol
I wonder what we'd do for a back up QB if we let JJ go? Unlike alot of fans, I thought JJ showed alot of promise. I think it would really suck to lose him, but definetly worth it if we got Suh out of the deal. Wonder why the Rams would want him? I'm sure they'd be taking Bradford with the #3 pick if the trade happened. It would be hillarious if they took an offensive lineman and made JJ the starter! lol
9:07pm, February 21, 2010
JDouble
Yeah, I'm trying not to get excited cause it doesn't seem likely, but....
1. If that deal happened, I think everyone that has bad mouthed Dominik needs to bow down and kiss his ass. After getting Winslow for a 2nd, getting a 2nd for Gaines, and then this....how could you deny his greatness?
2. Even if this doesn't pan out, but it turns out to be true that the Bucs are attempting to move up to #1 for Suh....will all you guys stop with the bullshit about the Glazers being too cheap to pay any big contracts?
3. I'd also hate to see JJ go, as I think he could be really special....but if we managed to get Suh AND keep our two second round picks, I think I might crap myself from pure joy!
Go Bucs!
1. If that deal happened, I think everyone that has bad mouthed Dominik needs to bow down and kiss his ass. After getting Winslow for a 2nd, getting a 2nd for Gaines, and then this....how could you deny his greatness?
2. Even if this doesn't pan out, but it turns out to be true that the Bucs are attempting to move up to #1 for Suh....will all you guys stop with the bullshit about the Glazers being too cheap to pay any big contracts?
3. I'd also hate to see JJ go, as I think he could be really special....but if we managed to get Suh AND keep our two second round picks, I think I might crap myself from pure joy!
Go Bucs!
9:14pm, February 21, 2010
JDouble
Also, I agree that trading next year's 1st for two 2nd rounders this year would be smart. We could probably get two guys in this year's second that are every bit as good as who ever we could get in next years first.
The problem is the only teams with multiple 2nd round picks are the Patriots and the Chiefs. I don't think either team would be interested. You never know though, I'm sure most teams assume our next years 1st will be a top 5 pick.
The problem is the only teams with multiple 2nd round picks are the Patriots and the Chiefs. I don't think either team would be interested. You never know though, I'm sure most teams assume our next years 1st will be a top 5 pick.
9:20pm, February 21, 2010
JacoBucs
Maybe Denver would trade Brandon Marshall and thier second round pick for our 2011 first round pick?
Imagine if we got Suh and Marshall and still had three second round picks. We could seriously turn things around next year.
Imagine if we got Suh and Marshall and still had three second round picks. We could seriously turn things around next year.
9:24pm, February 21, 2010
H.oneG
It's just the first of many smokescreens guys. That shit will NEVER happen. The Rams aren't that stupid.
9:25pm, February 21, 2010
JDouble
It could very well be a smokescreen. I'm not saying it's likely, but it would be awesome. The more I think about it, it might actually be true though.
For one thing Kevin Dermoff is the Ram's Executive Vice President of Football Operations now, and he has worked side by side with Dominik for years here in Tampa. I think thier relationship makes it more likely to atleast be discussed.
Then there is the fact that the sale of the Rams will be final in about two weeks. I'm pretty sure the new owner has to realize his new team is rebuilding from scratch. He likely wants a franchise QB to start building around.
So if the Rams truly do want Sam Bradford as thier QB, it makes sense that they would take less than usual to make the move. They will still get the player they want at #3, but for millions less then they would at #1, and they'd get an exciting young back up in Josh Johnson and get the #3 pick of the third round. It's win/win for them.
For one thing Kevin Dermoff is the Ram's Executive Vice President of Football Operations now, and he has worked side by side with Dominik for years here in Tampa. I think thier relationship makes it more likely to atleast be discussed.
Then there is the fact that the sale of the Rams will be final in about two weeks. I'm pretty sure the new owner has to realize his new team is rebuilding from scratch. He likely wants a franchise QB to start building around.
So if the Rams truly do want Sam Bradford as thier QB, it makes sense that they would take less than usual to make the move. They will still get the player they want at #3, but for millions less then they would at #1, and they'd get an exciting young back up in Josh Johnson and get the #3 pick of the third round. It's win/win for them.
9:34pm, February 21, 2010
H.oneG
Yeah...I guess. So does this mean your gonna post another one of your long ass mock drafts now?
9:42pm, February 21, 2010
JDouble
Haha! Nah, I think I've met my quota for the month.
9:45pm, February 21, 2010
Jesse
Hey PR, can we assume you are trying your best to get any possible info on this trade rumor?
11:36pm, February 21, 2010
cozart
GP TKL TFL SACK
13 45 16.5 6.5 JASON PIERRE-PAUL
39 115 29.5 19.5 DERRICK MORGAN
39 84 26 19.5 CARLOS DUNLAP
37 84 21 18 EVERSON GRIFFEN
47 138 56 29.5 BRANDON GRAHAM
49 112 40 28.5 JERRY HUGHES
these are the "top" de's. i'll take productions over the one year wonders any day. graham (6'2" 263) and hughes (6'3" 257) are basically the same size, which i agree is undersized. but you can't argue with production, both had monster years their last two years and both these guys imo make up for size w/ speed and strength.
13 45 16.5 6.5 JASON PIERRE-PAUL
39 115 29.5 19.5 DERRICK MORGAN
39 84 26 19.5 CARLOS DUNLAP
37 84 21 18 EVERSON GRIFFEN
47 138 56 29.5 BRANDON GRAHAM
49 112 40 28.5 JERRY HUGHES
these are the "top" de's. i'll take productions over the one year wonders any day. graham (6'2" 263) and hughes (6'3" 257) are basically the same size, which i agree is undersized. but you can't argue with production, both had monster years their last two years and both these guys imo make up for size w/ speed and strength.
12:23am, February 22, 2010
termig8r
McCoy can penetrate the gap, but I wonder if he can succeed against the double team in the NFL. I'd rather trade down for McClain - I think he'll be a bigger impact in the NFL. We can use another pick.
2:34am, February 22, 2010
H.oneG
You guys with your McClain talk are hilarious. The dude doesn't even have the speed needed to be a MLB in Tampa two. Plus, if we don't get McCoy or Suh to upgrade our line, McClain would get run thr f*ck over just like Ruud did last year.. With all the holes we have to fill you wanna use our first round pick to replace one of the few guys we have that is worth a damn? McClain would be the absolute dumbest pick I can think of for the Bucs. Clueless
9:06am, February 22, 2010
termig8r
H.oneG
You guys with your McClain talk are hilarious. The dude doesn't even have the speed needed to be a MLB in Tampa two. Plus, if we don't get McCoy or Suh to upgrade our line, McClain would get run thr f*ck over just like Ruud did last year.. With all the holes we have to fill you wanna use our first round pick to replace one of the few guys we have that is worth a damn? McClain would be the absolute dumbest pick I can think of for the Bucs. Clueless
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1. McClain is faster than Ruud. Don't believe me? Watch the combine. Better yet watch some tape - you might learn something about football.
His height also makes it difficult to throw the middle in the 'Tampa Two'.
2. DT position is perhaps the strongest in this draft (a rarity). After Suh there are no gurantees. DT can be addressed in the 2nd.
3. If Ruud is traded ( a distinct possibility), than MLB becomes a hole for the Bucs. McClain could become an all-pro for years to come. That is why you make this pick
4. Clueless - a great nick name for you. H.oneG would make a great Buc GM.
You guys with your McClain talk are hilarious. The dude doesn't even have the speed needed to be a MLB in Tampa two. Plus, if we don't get McCoy or Suh to upgrade our line, McClain would get run thr f*ck over just like Ruud did last year.. With all the holes we have to fill you wanna use our first round pick to replace one of the few guys we have that is worth a damn? McClain would be the absolute dumbest pick I can think of for the Bucs. Clueless
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1. McClain is faster than Ruud. Don't believe me? Watch the combine. Better yet watch some tape - you might learn something about football.
His height also makes it difficult to throw the middle in the 'Tampa Two'.
2. DT position is perhaps the strongest in this draft (a rarity). After Suh there are no gurantees. DT can be addressed in the 2nd.
3. If Ruud is traded ( a distinct possibility), than MLB becomes a hole for the Bucs. McClain could become an all-pro for years to come. That is why you make this pick
4. Clueless - a great nick name for you. H.oneG would make a great Buc GM.
12:42pm, February 22, 2010
H.oneG
Suh and Weatherspoon = Great draft.
McClain and 2nd round DT = Stupid draft that continues us on a perfect path to crapville.
Ruud looked like an all pro for two years in a row, then looks bad last year on a horrible young defense in transition, and you wanna get rid of him. Get a clue.
McClain and 2nd round DT = Stupid draft that continues us on a perfect path to crapville.
Ruud looked like an all pro for two years in a row, then looks bad last year on a horrible young defense in transition, and you wanna get rid of him. Get a clue.
1:48pm, February 22, 2010
termig8r
(Clueless) H.oneG,
I got your clue between my legs.
How do you propose to get Suh & Weatherspoon? The only way to get Weatherspoon is if the Bucs trade down (& get a 1st) - not up to get Suh.
Here's some sage advice - just listen for awhile instead of typing. Every time you open your proverbial pie hole your ignorance keeps burying you.
I got your clue between my legs.
How do you propose to get Suh & Weatherspoon? The only way to get Weatherspoon is if the Bucs trade down (& get a 1st) - not up to get Suh.
Here's some sage advice - just listen for awhile instead of typing. Every time you open your proverbial pie hole your ignorance keeps burying you.
3:04pm, February 22, 2010
TMac
Barrett Ruud had the second most tackles in the NFL last year. No, he isn't the emotional leader that we would like him to be, but that isn't a reason to get rid of him. It's a reason to go get an emotional leader.
8:52pm, February 24, 2010
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