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With the 2010 NFL Draft less than a week away Pewter Report issues a two-round NFL mock draft. Who are the Bucs projected to take in the first round? Who are their second round picks? What DE is projected to be a Buccaneer? Will they turn down a wide receiver? Find out in this mock draft.
The 2010 NFL Draft is just days away and Pewter Report has the latest two-round NFL mock draft. Pewter Report may publish another mock before Thursday night depending on what is learned over the next few days.
For some great mock drafts check out WalterFootball.com. They have weekly mock drafts from writers Walter Cherepinsky and Matt McGuire. Another great site is Scott Wright's DraftCountdown.com. They have a plethora of draft information that is worth checking out. Here is a mock draft database worth checking out: NFL Mock Draft Database.
Pewter Report's Eric Dellaratta contributed greatly to this mock draft.
FIRST ROUND
1. St. Louis Rams- Oklahoma QB Sam Bradford
The Rams are in need of a franchise quarterback. Bradford fills the void.
2. Detroit Lions- Oklahoma State LT Russell Okung
This pick makes too much sense, but you can never rule out the Lions leaving their franchise quarterback unprotected for another year.
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Nebraska DT Ndamukong Suh
For the analysis click here.
4. Washington Redskins- Oklahoma RT Trent Williams
The Redskins offensive line was depleted last year. Williams would start from day one.
5. Kansas City Chiefs- Iowa LT Bryan Bulaga
Chiefs GM Scott Pioli made it clear that he wants to get better in the trenches last year when he selected Tyson Jackson. They do the same here, but on the other side of the ball.
6. Seattle Seahawks- Oklahoma DT Gerald McCoy
McCoy is too good for the Seahawks to pass up, and Seattle's defensive line gets a needed upgrade.
7. Cleveland Browns- Tennessee S Eric Berry
The Browns need a ball hawk in their secondary. Berry can also help stuff the run.
8. Oakland Raiders- Maryland LT Bruce Campbell
The Raiders have a track record of picking "Workout Warriors". Campbell's size and speed is too much for owner Al Davis to pass up.
9. Buffalo Bills- Notre Dame QB Jimmy Clausen
Despite the need at offensive line, the Bills get a franchise quarterback.
10. Jacksonville Jaguars- Georgia Tech DE Derrick Morgan
Morgan opposite Aaron Kampman would be a lot to handle for opposing offensive lineman.
11. Denver Broncos (from Chicago)- Tennessee DT Dan Williams
Denver needs help in their front seven. Williams is a big body who can help their run defense.
12. Miami Dolphins- Texas OLB Sergio Kindle
The Dolphins need a 3-4 pass rusher. Kindle replaces Joey Porter and Jason Taylor.
13. San Francisco 49ers- Florida CB Joe Haden
The 49ers could move Nate Clements to safety if they select a pro-ready Haden at no. 13.
14. Seattle Seahawks (from Denver)- Clemson RB C.J. Spiller
Seattle is in need of a playmaker on offense. Spiller can also return punts for the Seahawks.
15. New York Giants- Alabama LB Rolando McClain *
The Giants are in need of a middle linebacker after they released Antonio Pierce.
16. Tennessee Titans- Michigan DE Brandon Graham
Graham fills Kyle Vanden Bosch's shoes at defensive end.
17. San Francisco 49ers (from Carolina)- Rutgers LT Anthony Davis
The 49ers could swing Davis over to right tackle and he can be an opening day starter.
18. Pittsburgh Steelers- Florida G/C Maurkice Pouncey
The Steelers didn't run the ball well last year. Pouncey can play effectively at both guard and center.
19. Atlanta Falcons- Missouri LB Sean Weatherspoon
Weatherspoon is a vocal leader that can play middle or outside linebacker for the Falcons.
20. Houston Texans- Texas S Earl Thomas
NFL teams think Thomas could be moved to corner, but Thomas is a good value at safety to help stop Peyton Manning and the Indianapolis Colts.
21. Cincinnati Bengals- Oklahoma TE Jermaine Gresham
Opponents will focus on Antonio Bryant and Chad Ochocinco, so Gresham could be a big target for Carson Palmer in the middle of the field.
22. New England Patriots- Oklahoma State WR Dez Bryant
Randy Moss doesn't have much more left in the tank. Bryant can learn under Moss and take over when he leaves.
23. Green Bay Packers- Idaho G Mike Iupati
Iupati is an aggressive run blocker and would instantly help the struggling offensive line of the Packers.
24. Philadelphia Eagles- Boise State CB Kyle Wilson
The Eagles traded Sheldon Brown leaving an open spot for Wilson to take over.
25. Baltimore Ravens- Rutgers CB Devin McCourty
The Ravens haven't addressed the cornerback position this offseason, so this should be a priority.
26. Arizona Cardinals- South Florida DE Jason Pierre-Paul
Arizona is in need of an edge pass rusher. JPP falls in the draft due to maturity and intelligence, but is great value at no. 26 overall.
27. Dallas Cowboys- USC S Taylor Mays
The Cowboys could use competition at both safety positions. Mays is a hard-hitter with great athletic skills.
28. San Diego Chargers- Fresno State RB Ryan Mathews
With LT gone to the Jets, San Diego gets a work-horse back in Mathews.
29. New York Jets- Penn State DT Jared Odrick
Odrick has all the tools to be a five-technique defensive end in a 3-4 scheme. The Jets also let go of Marques Douglas and Shaun Ellis isn't getting any younger.
30. Minnesota Vikings- UCLA DT Brian Price
Pat Williams is aging, so Price would be in a rotation until Williams leaves.
31. Indianapolis Colts- USC LT Charles Brown
The Colts need some help along the offensive line, and Brown is the best available.
32. New Orleans Saints- Florida DE Carlos Dunlap
Dunlap is an edge rusher that could help fill Charles Grant's shoes.
SECOND ROUND
33. St. Louis Rams- Notre Dame WR Golden Tate
Tate gives the Rams a playmaking wide receiver to pair up with their franchise quarterback.
34. Detroit Lions- Cal RB Javhid Best
RB Kevin Smith was a pick of the previous regime. Best is an upgrade.
35. Tampa Bay Buccaneers- TCU DE Jerry Hughes
For the analysis click here.
36. Kansas City Chiefs- Georgia Tech WR Demaryius Thomas
The raw Demaryius Thomas doesn't have to be a superstar in his rookie season with the Chiefs, as he is paired up with Dwayne Bowe.
37. Philadelphia Eagles- TCU LB Daryl Washington
The Eagles need linebacker help, and Washington is a good fit for them.
38. Cleveland Browns- Florida QB Tim Tebow
Cleveland gets a superstar franchise quarterback in Tebow.
39. Oakland Raiders- USC DE Everson Griffen
The Raiders get an athletic pass rusher. Griffen fits their disposition towards top athletes.
40. San Diego Chargers- Alabama DT Terrence Cody
With Jamal Williams leaving town, the Chargers need a nose tackle. Cody is a run stuffer that can help anchor their defense.
41. Buffalo Bills- North Carolina DT Cam Thomas
The Bills need a nose tackle for their new 3-4 scheme. Thomas can be that big body they need in the middle.
42. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (from Chicago)- South Florida S Nate Allen
For the analysis click here.
43. Denver Broncos- Illinois G Jon Asamoah
The Broncos get a guard that will fit right into Josh McDaniels' scheme.
44. New England Patriots (from Jacksonville)- Cal DT Tyson Alualu
Alualu would fit in as a five-technique defensive end in the Patriots defense and help replace Jarvis Green.
45. Denver Broncos- Illinois WR Arrelious Benn
With Brandon Marshall out of town, the Broncos will need to get a receiver.
46. New York Giants- Northwestern DT Corey Wootton
Wooten is a big, bull rushing defensive end that would fit in well with the Giants.
47. Carolina Panthers- Ohio WR Taylor Price
Price could help take the pressure off of Steve Smith with this pick.
48. New England Patriots (from Tennessee)- OLB Koa Misi
Misi is perfect for a 3-4 defense due to his versatile skill set.
49. San Francisco 49ers- Ole Miss RB Dexter McCluster
McCluster gives the 49ers a dynamic playmaker to pair with Frank Gore.
50. Houston Texans- Georgia Tech RB Jonathan Dwyer
Houston needs help at running back, and Dwyer is great value here.
51. Kansas City Chiefs (from Atlanta)- Florida TE Aaron Hernandez
The Chiefs need a tight end to fill the shoes of Tony Gonzalez.
52. Pittsburgh Steelers- Alabama CB Kareem Jackson
Pittsburgh needs some secondary help. Jackson could compete for a starting job.
53. New England Patriots- Arizona TE Ron Gronkowski
Gronkowski would be a great fit in New England's offense with this pick and he would help replace Ben Watson.
54. Cincinnati Bengals- Cincinnati WR Mardy Gilyard
The Bengals aren't done acquiring receivers. Gilyard has good potential and can play well as a slot receiver.
55. Philadelphia Eagles- LSU S Chad Jones
The Eagles get a hard-hitting safety that can be the presence they missed since Brian Dawkins left.
56. Green Bay Packers- Wake Forest CB Brandon Ghee
Al Harris and Charles Woodson aren't getting any younger. Ghee could be the future at cornerback.
57. Baltimore Ravens- Florida State CB Patrick Robinson
The Ravens get another cornerback that could compete for a starting job along with Devin McCourty.
58. Arizona Cardinals- Indiana OT Rodger Saffold
Saffold could help the Cardinals at right tackle in 2010.
59. Dallas Cowboys- Massachusetts OT Vladimir Ducasse
Ducasse can take place of the recently released Flozell Adams. Ducasse could also be moved to guard.
60. Seattle Seahawks- Florida S Major Wright
Seattle gets a safety that could instantly help their weak pass defense.
61. New York Jets- South Carolina OLB Eric Norwood
Norwood fits in the Jets scheme as a 3-4 pass rushing outside linebacker. Rex Ryan won't shy away from a talented blitzer.
62. Minnesota Vikings- Oklahoma State CB Perrish Cox
Cedric Griffin will be coming off an injury, and Antoine Winfield is getting older. Cox could play nickel when Griffin returns.
63. Indianapolis Colts- Texas DT Lamarr Houston
The Colts get a defensive tackle to replace Raheem Brock and help shore up their run defense.
64. New Orleans Saints- Penn State OLB Navarro Bowman
Bowman would fill Scott Fujita's shoes with this pick.
Comments
erikmclamara
7:59am, April 17, 2010
erikmclamara
8:07am, April 17, 2010
sarasotabucfan
8:45am, April 17, 2010
mjohnson062
A decent case was made for the Rams building the O-Line prior to selecting a QB, but the fact that the front office/coaching will want to make a splash to save their jobs says Bradford and Tate are the picks. Also, this might help persuade St. Louis into putting together a package to keep the Rams out of Los Angeles.
8:45am, April 17, 2010
JDouble
Where's Damian Williams? He isn't going in the first two rounds at all?
We are gonna waste a 2nd rounder on a safety when there is a metric shit ton of solid safeties in the 3rd and 4th?
We pass on Alualu, Griffen, Damian Williams, and Damaryius Thomas for your love child Hughes and safety Nate Allen?!
Jerry Hughes is this years Larry English. He doesn't even fit our defense and yet you have latched onto his jock and refuse to relequish your grip.
If there are no trades I'll buy your first 7 picks....after that it is pretty much garbage. Sorry PR but your mocks are horrible this year.
9:22am, April 17, 2010
JDouble
9:26am, April 17, 2010
Jesse
Why is there a picture of Everson Griffen at the top of this article when the mock has us passing on him?
9:29am, April 17, 2010
Horse
Then we work on WR,RB,OL round 4-6, 7th round pick a punter and whatever's.
9:29am, April 17, 2010
BuccanAy
9:36am, April 17, 2010
CBWx2
BTW, I agree Spiller will likely go before he's projected in this mock draft, But McClain won't be drafted in the top ten. McClain isn't projected well as a 4-3 MLB, and would be be better suited in a 3-4 defense. The teams in the top 10 that run a 3-4 are Washington, KC, Cleveland, and Buffalo. Three of those teams are most likely going to go OT, and I don't think the Browns view ILB as an urgent enough need to pass on Eric Berry, Joe Haden, or Jimmy Clausen. I don't see anyone trading up into the top ten for McClain either.
9:42am, April 17, 2010
2goodbucs
9:43am, April 17, 2010
shaaslaw
We MUST take a receiver in the top 2 rounds.
10:03am, April 17, 2010
mattmart01
You can make the same argument with Suh. He played in a read and react scheme in college, whereas here in Tampa, the D-line gets up the field and disrups the offense.
Adding both Suh and Hughes will give Rah versitility
10:06am, April 17, 2010
Horse
There are still plenty of WR's in the 3rd and 4th rounds.
For me, I wouldn't take Dez Bryant anywhere before the third round. He is a huge risk because of his mental/emotional immaturity. Let New England risk their No.1 on him; that would make me happy.
10:15am, April 17, 2010
CBWx2
10:23am, April 17, 2010
shaaslaw
10:24am, April 17, 2010
CBWx2
10:40am, April 17, 2010
termig8r
The Jags could trade back & take Tebow later. But they are one franchise that needs Tebow. No way they let him get away to Cleveland in the 2nd.
11:16am, April 17, 2010
matador
this is going to take longer to sort out than raheem and dominik have. even areas of supposed strength, like the ol, are filled with underachievers. the players we have on the dl now are all workable if they have a playmaker lined up next to them but otherwise unremarkable. wr position is a joke, rb position so-so, te position avg, secondary has 2 playmakers out of 4-5, lb has a few maybe's, ruud probably on his way out the door, and little else...
even if we draft well, at how many positions to rookies come in and make a major impact in year one? i'm left hoping for a good draft, a sale of man u, and a terrible record triggering the hiring of a top flight coach and proven gm at the end of next season so we don't remain trapped in purgatory for any longer than necessary.
11:20am, April 17, 2010
jcecilia
11:23am, April 17, 2010
BucWild02
Colts employ a cover 2 just like Tampa.
Dwight Freeney 6'1", 268 Rush End - Syracuse
Jerry Hughes 6'2", 255 Rush End - TCU
NFL Network has this to say about Hughes the prospect:
Hughes is a defensive end that has been the most disruptive defender for the Horned Frogs over the past two years. He is a tweener (size and athleticism) at the next level and may fit as an undersized end in a 4-3 scheme or an inexperienced outside backer in an odd front. Hughes is best attacking the line of scrimmage rushing the passer or penetrating to disrupt the run. He uses his hands well to control blockers on the edge. He also shows an expansive pass rush package. Hughes has dropped in zone coverage at times but is most comfortable with his hand on the ground. He is a solid tackler in the open field utilizing great balance and body positioning. Regardless of where Hughes aligns at the next level he should contribute as a rookie due to his instincts, toughness, athleticism and energy.
11:33am, April 17, 2010
BucWild02
11:54am, April 17, 2010
BucWild02
11:56am, April 17, 2010
BucWild02
12:04pm, April 17, 2010
FLBoyInDallas
1) Suh or McCoy, DT
2a) Jerry Hughes, DE
2b) Devin McCourty, Kareem Jackson, Chris Cook, CB
Wouldn't be surprised in the least if it falls that way.
12:21pm, April 17, 2010
nmkinley
That being said, I would choose a WR at 2b over another safety. Safety is a position that could wait until rounds 3-4, when all the pundits suggest there are still good ones out there (Stuckley, Chancellor, etc).
Can't wait for the draft!
12:24pm, April 17, 2010
FLBoyInDallas
12:25pm, April 17, 2010
BucWild02
12:39pm, April 17, 2010
scubog
12:42pm, April 17, 2010
jongruden
side note to Charlie Denver has no receiver how do you not think the Broncos could take Dez Bryant even after McDaniels said he was on his board last night
12:54pm, April 17, 2010
FLBoyInDallas
People had Freeney pegged as a 3-4 LB when he came out too. The Colts knew better and looked how that turned out.
It's funny, because Jerry Hughes and Brandon Graham are of similar size and they both showed the exact same type of pass rush skills in college. Yet a lot of people are quick to put Graham as a 4-3 DE and relegate Hughes to a 3-4 LB position.
There's no justification for this. If you're gonna pigeon-hole one of 'em you need to do it with both. Neither Hughes nor Graham have experience playing in the 3-4. They are both natural 4-3 DE's.
Check out this comparison:
Height & weight:
Hughes - 6'3" 257lbs
Graham - 6'2" 268
40 yard dash:
Hughes - 4.69
Graham - 4.72
10 yard split:
Hughes - 1.63
Graham - 1.61
225lb bench:
Hughes - 26
Graham - 31
3-cone drill:
Hughes - 6.99
Graham - 7.01
20 yard shuttle:
Hughes - 4.15
Graham - 4.25
Broad jump:
Hughes - 9'10"
Graham - 9'3"
Vertical jump:
Hughes - 34.5
Graham - 31.5
And here's Hughes & Graham's college stats from '08 & '09:
Hughes:
2008 - 52 tackles, 15 sacks
2009 - 58 tackles, 11 sacks
Total - 110 tackles, 26 sacks
Graham:
2008 - 46 tackles, 10 sacks
2009 - 64 tackles, 10 sacks
Total - 110 tackles, 20 sacks
Hughes played on the #1 defense in the country with TCU. They played decent competition. Here's the strength of schedule, based on opponents' winning %, through week 10 of last season:
TCU - 85
Michigan - 92
So Hughes not only had better stats than Graham as far as sacks, and very similar measurables across the board at the combine & pro day, he played a schedule that was slightly stronger than what Graham played.
Based on every single piece of information available, who in their right mind would not think Hughes is fully comparable to Graham? I don't get it.
Not to mention the highlight reels are just as impressive for both guys. I think Hughes would be a great pick for us at 2a if he's available. If not, then we definitely need to grab CJ Wilson at the top of round 4.
12:59pm, April 17, 2010
jongruden
1:12pm, April 17, 2010
jongruden
1:13pm, April 17, 2010
selmon
1:18pm, April 17, 2010
FLBoyInDallas
1:19pm, April 17, 2010
jongruden
1:20pm, April 17, 2010
FLBoyInDallas
1:25pm, April 17, 2010
FLBoyInDallas
1:28pm, April 17, 2010
jongruden
1:36pm, April 17, 2010
sunrisejeff
1)Suh
2A) Demaryius Thomas
2B) Kareem Jackson
1:51pm, April 17, 2010
BucCaddy
Cleveland gets a superstar franchise quarterback in Tebow.
No, tell me how you REALLY feel about Tebow. There was so much drool on that line that I thought I was watching a Gator game...
I'll say it again. Nate Allen will not be a 2nd round pick of the Bucs. He DUPLICATES the players they already have and the available WR/CB at that spot will be too much of a value given what they will be left with in the later rounds. If this is some "inside" info you've pulled in the last month Charlie, ever hear the word "smokescreen"?
2:01pm, April 17, 2010
surferdudes
2:35pm, April 17, 2010
CBWx2
Where I do see similarities is between Hughes and Robert Mathis and Elvis Dumervil. Mathis is a Cover 2 DE and Dumervil is a 3-4 OLB. Both are productive players that rely on speed over strength, as does Hughes. This is why I like Hughes in either scheme, but I think he's probably best suited in a 3-4. For that reason, I don't see him getting out of the 1st round. I think he will go between picks 22 and 29.
There is a big difference in 257 and 265, especially when you consider that Freeney now plays at 268. Also, there is a big difference between 257 and 268, so don't compare the
2:45pm, April 17, 2010
CBWx2
2:47pm, April 17, 2010
Horse
I don't believe there will be any WR's that fall in that categorey when we draft at 35 and 45, but there sure will be a lot of available defensive players. This is the reason why I think we should draft three defensive players in the first 2 rounds.
We will have opportunity to take WR's at good value rounds three and on.
Yes I agree we need at least two more WR's to make our team and contribute from the draft, but I believe it will happen starting in the third round.
We had an awful defensive team last season and I feel that we have to first be the Bucs from the past; a hard hitting, gang tackling, and players with quickness and speed.
2:56pm, April 17, 2010
H.oneG
Hughes is a 250lbs linebacker. He is not built anything like Graham. He is not a 4-3 defensive end. If we draft him he will get blown the fuck up by LTs all day long and our run refense will be even worse than it is now. If we draft Hughes he will probably end up being moved to linebacker in a few years, or traded to a 3-4 team since he is likely to slow to be a linebacker in our defense.
2:59pm, April 17, 2010
H.oneG
If there is no right end that fits, you don't reach for a player that doesn't fit. If we are determined to build up our defensive line, Alualu would help our defensive line ten fold, but we should know better than to reach by now.
3:11pm, April 17, 2010
FLBoyInDallas
4:09pm, April 17, 2010
FLBoyInDallas
4:12pm, April 17, 2010
jongruden
H.oneg- agree
flyboyindallas- you seem to be stuck with your opinion no matter what even if Hughes himself would telll you he is better suited for the 3-4 so I'm done trying to make you understand why certain players can't play the 4-3
4:27pm, April 17, 2010
FilmBuc
I still can't fathom how PR thinks the bucs will not draft a WR in round 2 - especially considering they passed on all the trade opportunities like Marshall, Holmes, and Ginn.
Surprisingly - there are a lot of pundits who think Hughes won't make it past the Saints at #32. I tend to agree with them.
Look for Golden Tate to be available with the #35 pick and for the Bucs to nab him.
There is no need for a safety in round 2. the talent will still be there later in the draft. Look for the Bucs to go
DT
WR
DE
With their first three picks - in that order.
4:30pm, April 17, 2010
JDouble
Scubog, I don't have a Beast and Bust list, but I do have my draft day list I'll have next too me. Hoping to circle a few of the names on it. The * just indicates my very favorite players. If I get to circle one of those names I'll be a very happy man! They are listed per position in order of percieved value considering thier projected round.
My 50 Favorites (by position)
Running Backs
7. RB Ben Tate/ 2nd-3rd *
9. RB Ryan Mathews/ 1st
21. RB LeGarrette Blount/ 4th-5th
25. RB Toby Gerhart/ 2nd-3rd
26. RB Joe McKnight/ 3rd
29. RB Montereo Hardesty/ 2nd-3rd
40. RB Jahvid Best/ 2nd
46. RB Keiland Williams/ 5th-6th
Wide Recievers
5. WR Golden Tate/ 1st-2nd *
6. WR Damian Williams/ 2nd *
10. WR Damaryius Thomas/ 1st-2nd
18. WR Taylor Price/ 2nd-3rd
27. WR Jordan Shipley/ 3rd
28. WR Marty Gillyard/ 3rd
Defensive Tackles
1. DT Ndamukong Suh/ Top Five *
3. DT/DE Tyson Alualu/ 2nd *
15. DE/DT C.J. Wilson/ 4th *
19. DT Mike Neal/ 3rd *
23. DT Brian Price/ 1st-2nd
31. DT Gerald McCoy/ Top Five
35. DT/DE Geno Adkins/3rd
37. DT Lamaar Houston/ 2nd
Defensive Ends
2. DE Brandon Graham/ Top 20 *
3. DT/DE Tyson Alualu/ 2nd *
13. DE/DT C.J. Wilson/ 4th *
23. DE Everson Griffen/ 1st-2nd
38. DE George Selvie/ 4th
39. DE Austen Lane/ 3rd
43. DE Corey Wooten/ 2nd
Linebackers
4. LB Sean Weatherspoon/ 1st *
14. LB Daryll Washington/ 2nd
24. LB Dakota Watson/ 3rd-4th *
30. LB Sean Lee/ 2nd-3rd
33. LB Perry Riley/ 3rd
44. LB Micah Johnson/ 4th
47. LB AJ Edds/ 4th-5th
Safeties
8. S/CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah/ 3rd *
16. S Kam Chancellor/ 3rd-4th *
17. S Darrell Stuckey/ 3rd-4th
34. S Major Wright/ 4th
36. S Barry Church/ 4th-5th
Cornerbacks
8. CB/S Akwasi Owusu-Annsah/ 3rd *
11. CB Eric Berry/ top 10
12. CB Joe haden/ Top Fifteen
22. CB Crezdon Butler/ 5th-7th *
41. CB Walter Thurmond/ 4th-5th
45. CB Chris Cook/ 2nd
FullBack / Tight End
20. TE Dennis Pitta/ 2nd-3rd *
48. FB/TE Jamesson Konz/ 6th-7th
49. TE Andrew Quarles/ 5th
50. FB/TE Drake Dunsmore/ 7th
FIVE DAYS AND THREE HOURS TOGO!
4:36pm, April 17, 2010
FLBoyInDallas
4:38pm, April 17, 2010
seat26
I agree that Hughes is a classic tweener. He is too small to play on the line and he will be too slow to play linebacker.
4:43pm, April 17, 2010
FLBoyInDallas
4:43pm, April 17, 2010
FilmBuc
I've seen quite a bit of the guy. Forget his measurables. The guy's a football player. He produces. He has lined up against the guys his coaches have asked him to - and he's tackled and sacked everything in front of him. Remember this about him...
Consensus all-american
Here's the most important part. Read this...
LED THE NATION WITH 15 SACKS and 6 FORCED FUMBLES!!!
Was top ten in the nation in Tackles for Loss (at his size)
One more important bit...
Was the best player on the best defense in the nation.
He's a fiery leader and a high character guy. This is exactly the type of player all Buc fans should want. A true football player who has produced. Who has proven on the field what he can do. A guy who has put it down on tape.
One word you don't have to use with this guy: potential
Just because a guy played one way in college - doesn't mean he can't adapt. He knows how to produce.
the Bucs should focus on guys like him throughout the draft. Guys who have done it on the field. Who are used to leading their teams to victory.
No more projects. No more guys with potential and great measurables who "might" produce one day.
I guarantee if the Bucs draft this guy, he'll be a fan favorite from day one because of his tenacity on the field.
4:56pm, April 17, 2010
FLBoyInDallas
"I have to say I'm more prepared to play in a 4-3 because I had my hand on the ground for four years in college."
Quote from a scouting report on Hughes:
"He's got ideal size, that allows him to be strong at the point of attack against the run, can engage a lineman, shed them and get to the ball carrier. But his strength is that first step as a pass rusher. Hand on the ground, no player in the country is as explosive as Hughes. He does a great job with his hands, keeps his pad level good and can get up and under larger players, split double teams, and blow past slower linemen. He plays with great leverage, and rarely loses a one on one. He's got a motor that doesn't quit, and you rarely see him take a play off. Where he'll need work is in coverage, where he's going to have to learn much more about coverage and be much more fluid in his drops and be able to turn and run with tight ends and backs."
Hmmm...sounds like a 4-3 DE to me.
4:58pm, April 17, 2010
FLBoyInDallas
5:00pm, April 17, 2010
erikmclamara
5:14pm, April 17, 2010
CBWx2
5:36pm, April 17, 2010
jongruden
5:51pm, April 17, 2010
jongruden
5:55pm, April 17, 2010
jongruden
One of the faster rising players on the board, some scouts have him going in the later stages of the first round. Hughes has talent to be selected that high, but his lack of size and poor technique will probably push him to the late second / early third round territory. Although he has all the tools to be a very productive player in the NFL, something seems to be lacking. Overall Jerry Hughes is a good, but not great prospect.
4/1 Update: Hughes will not fit into every NFL system. It has become quite clear that he is a linebacker who was an end in college. He simply lacks the size and strength to play at the end spot at the next level. That could slip him down into the early portion of the second round, but after a solid combine, Hughes is holding onto hopes of hearing his name called on the first day of the draft.
www.toolbox.com there is your source
5:57pm, April 17, 2010
jongruden
Draft Status: Most mock drafts don't have Hughes in the first round but I disagree. When you see what great 3-4 defenses have, it's the ability to generate a consistent pass rush from their OLB. There is no player in the draft who can do that like Hughes can, so I am certain some team will snatch him up in the first round.
www.draftboardinsider.com
5:59pm, April 17, 2010
jongruden
Size: Has ideal size for a 3-4 outside linebacker but would be considered slightly undersized as an end. Looks to have long arms and is high cut. Not especially tight skinned.
Strength/Ability to shed blocks: Has good functional playing strength for a linebacker. If he wants to stay at end, Hughes will have to get much stronger. He struggles to get of blocks and can be engulfed by linemen.
Tackling: A very good, aggressive tackler. Uses his length nicely as a tackler. Showed he has a nose for the ball by forcing eight fumbles over his final two seasons.
Technique: Stays low to the ground coming around the corner. Shows a good rip move. Needs to use his hands better to stack and shed.
Versatility: Played defensive end exclusively for his first three years. During his senior year, Hughes would often take his hand off the ground and play more of a traditional linebacker. A good 3-4 outside linebacker option who may not be able to play anything else.
Final word: As a pass rusher, Hughes is very good. But he'll need to do a better job against the run and learn how to drop into coverage. He shows a solid first step, which helped him lead the nation in sacks in 2008. He shows above average lateral quickness, but needs to learn how to shed blocks better.
He'll be a good value pick for a 3-4 team in the second round.
www.mockingthedraft
6:01pm, April 17, 2010
jongruden
www.walterfootball.com
flybotindallas- I can cut and paste all day from every scouting report web site that agrees with me
6:03pm, April 17, 2010
FilmBuc
Haha - saved me some time surfing the web. Thanks. I played quite a bit of football in my day as well - through college - and agree that Hughes plays too wide for a conventional DE.
But... teams literally had to gameplan for him. Boise State sent double teams at him on 80 percent of the snaps and triple teamed him on almost every third down passing play.
He's a rare game changer The kind of guy who makes a great nickel blitzing outside linebacker (who can move anywhere pre-snap) and can play DE in passing situations. By playing wide - he forced the LT to leave a wide gap between himself and the guard, which enabled TCU to have tons of success blitzing up the middle.
Do I think he's a 4 down stop the run stud DE. No. But neither are any of the other DE's that might be there in round 2.
By no means am I a 100 percent advocate that the Bucs should draft Hughes. I'm hoping Golden Tate is there at #35 personally.
But I'd rather the Bucs draft a player who can be dominant in certain situations than merely drafting a player who will be average in all situations.
6:21pm, April 17, 2010
BucWild02
6:31pm, April 17, 2010
BucWild02
6:35pm, April 17, 2010
jongruden
filmbuc I'm glad to see a guy who understands the game of football, Hughes will be a very good OLB as was Suggs and Woodley, they are just not DE in the 4-3 thier style of play doesn't fit a 4-3 I know alot of guys didn't play the game and they get caught up in stats rather than watching tape and understanding strengths and weaknesess
6:38pm, April 17, 2010
FLBoyInDallas
I could go on and on with this list. There is absolutely NO lack of 4-3 DE's in the 240-260 lb range in recent NFL history. What the hell are you thinking, jongruden?
6:40pm, April 17, 2010
1bucfanjeff
If this draft is so talented, we need to be giving picks away in next years draft to acquire more picks this year. Personally, I would give away the number 1 pick next year to move into the first round now AND keep our TWO 2nd round picks.
It won't happen, but next years draft talent is pretty weak.
6:45pm, April 17, 2010
JDouble
I do understand posters like FLboyinDallas getting so defensive though. If someone was on here trying to say Alualu or Akwasi weren't a good fit for our team, I'd be up in arms as well. We all have are favorites.
6:45pm, April 17, 2010
CBWx2
6:50pm, April 17, 2010
FLBoyInDallas
The 3-4 teams are so needy for talented guys like Hughes that he probably won't make it out of the first round and will likely play for a 3-4 team. However, I am convinced that he could succeed in a 4-3 defense and even become a Pro Bowler if given the chance.
Demarcus Ware had a second round grade on most boards but Dallas selected him 11th overall for their 3-4 defense. That worked out pretty well, I think. Hughes will likely be taken higher than we think because 3-4 teams covet guys like that as if they were pure gold.
6:51pm, April 17, 2010
FLBoyInDallas
6:52pm, April 17, 2010
CBWx2
6:52pm, April 17, 2010
(O.o)
You watch Hughes and you see that he is most effective rushing the passer when he is standing up, not when his hand is in the dirt. Most of his sacks are from speed rushing off the outside where he gets the QB 10 yards deep. In the NFl the QB will simply step up and he will be on the ground behind the QB with a fat lineman on top of him like Gaines Adams did constantly. You also see that the majority of the time he is man handled by bigger lineman. I'd say no thanks if I were GM.
7:06pm, April 17, 2010
(O.o)
7:07pm, April 17, 2010
FLBoyInDallas
You sure you're watching #98 on every play?
7:22pm, April 17, 2010
FLBoyInDallas
7:22pm, April 17, 2010
(O.o)
7:38pm, April 17, 2010
jongruden
7:38pm, April 17, 2010
FLBoyInDallas
1) USC
2) Ohio State
3) Tennessee
4) Alabama
5) LSU
6) Georgia
7:38pm, April 17, 2010
(O.o)
7:39pm, April 17, 2010
FLBoyInDallas
7:41pm, April 17, 2010
FLBoyInDallas
7:42pm, April 17, 2010
FLBoyInDallas
7:43pm, April 17, 2010
FLBoyInDallas
1) Gerald McCoy, DT
2a) Golden Tate, WR
2b) Devin McCourty, CB
3) Corey Wooton, DE
8:29pm, April 17, 2010
BucWild02
NFL Network has this to say about Hughes the prospect:
"Hughes is a defensive end that has been the most disruptive defender for the Horned Frogs over the past two years. He is a tweener (size and athleticism) at the next level and may fit as an undersized end in a 4-3 scheme or an inexperienced outside backer in an odd front. Hughes is best attacking the line of scrimmage rushing the passer or penetrating to disrupt the run. He uses his hands well to control blockers on the edge. He also shows an expansive pass rush package. Hughes has dropped in zone coverage at times but is most comfortable with his hand on the ground. He is a solid tackler in the open field utilizing great balance and body positioning. Regardless of where Hughes aligns at the next level he should contribute as a rookie due to his instincts, toughness, athleticism and energy."
8:59pm, April 17, 2010
jleonard55
I don't understand how PR is projecting us not to draft a WR in the 1st two rounds of the draft. It would be stupid not to. Next to DT, it's our most pressing need. I love me some Nate Allen, but unless we are going to try to move Tanard Jackson that pick makes absolutely no sense. We are going to burn a high 2nd round pick on a FS and bypass all of the top 5 WR's in the draft so that just in case Jackson decides to smoke tweeds again we will have a backup plan? Sorry, but that's retarded.
BTW, I agree Spiller will likely go before he's projected in this mock draft, But McClain won't be drafted in the top ten. McClain isn't projected well as a 4-3 MLB, and would be be better suited in a 3-4 defense. The teams in the top 10 that run a 3-4 are Washington, KC, Cleveland, and Buffalo. Three of those teams are most likely going to go OT, and I don't think the Browns view ILB as an urgent enough need to pass on Eric Berry, Joe Haden, or Jimmy Clausen. I don't see anyone trading up into the top ten for McClain either."
CBWx2: It's simple on the WR position- If Thomas from Georgia Tech is not there in the 2nd round, you don't draft a WR in the first 2 rounds and I think he'll have to make it all the way to our 2nd pick in the 2nd round, because of the DL that are in this draft. Thomas is the only receiver I see possibly being there, that's worth that pick. Otherwise you wait. No sense in picking another Stovall to ride the bench.
You're dead wrong on McClain though. He will be one of the best 4-3 middle linebackers in the league. He's played the middle for the past 3 years and has been the best in the country at doing it. He's the most sure fire pick in the draft in my opinion, very similar to Patrick Willis from a few years ago. I bet the Giants would give up that 15th pick right now for McClain, without even waiting for the draft. Because I know they don't expect him to be there.
9:32pm, April 17, 2010
BucWild02
9:36pm, April 17, 2010
rhbucs
Then you get your WR,DE,CB all in the second round whitch after Suh is there most pressing need but also what will be available when they make that pick
Benn,Tate at WR
Wooten,Koi,Griffin
Kareem,Ghee,Akwasi at CB
No safeties until 6th round or later
Dominick wants playmakers not depth right now
9:46pm, April 17, 2010
jleonard55
Hardy Nickerson was a Buc's player that was a freak like this. He only weighed 230 something pounds, but could bench press 500lbs, late in his carreer. It was the reason he could dominate in the middle, while being 10 to 20lbs lighter than most guys dominating that postion. I think he would have made the Hall of Fame, if he'd have stayed with the Buc's. I'd still vote for him, but I don't think he'll get enough votes to get in.
From watching a little tape and reading some of the scouting reports, I think he's definitly worthy of a 2nd round pick.
9:52pm, April 17, 2010
Bucworld
1. DT Suh
2. DE Everson Griffin
2.WR Arrrelious Benn
3.CB Brandon Ghee
4. ILB Jamar Chaney
5. OT Kyle Calloway
6. RB L Blount
7.WR 7. DB 7.P 7 DE
10:02pm, April 17, 2010
Horse
Duh it was defense.
I will support the Bucs since 1976 (hell before they were the Bucs but ajust thought at Tampa in 1973) and they will focus where they need to focus.
10:37pm, April 17, 2010
CBWx2
Duh it was defense."
Horse;
Sorry buddy, but you are wrong. We were bad on both sides of the ball. In some games we were burned by the big play and blown out due to defensive failures, and in other games we saw the defense holding teams to low scores, but the offense faltering and being unable to move the football and put points on the board, thus giving the other team's offense too many opportunities. In my opinion, the defense improved greatly last year, and needs less help than the offense. A playmaker at WR is an absolute must.
What's crazy is that I am doing a collaborative mock right now and my first 4 picks were almost exactly what Mel Kiper picked for us, except instead of Devin McCourty I has us taking Brandon Ghee. McCourty went in the 1st round.
11:37pm, April 17, 2010
TBMIKE
5:07am, April 18, 2010
scubog
Jongruden: Good job Dude. These were your best posts ever. You actually made some good points instead of reverting to the name calling. Not sure why the Florida Boy in Jones Town is taking so much offense to defend a player. It's just opinion. To me Jerry Hughes is an outside linebacker in a 3-4 defense but there are others his size who have played defensive end.
Horse: Many people don't remember that the team was awarded to Tampa in 1974 and not to Hugh Culverhouse who was actually the second prospective owner. I have the commemorative poster hanging in my Buccaneer den. It is a baby wearing a helmet in what resembles Dolphin colors with "Tampa." Rare piece. I also have a sealed McDonald's bumper sticker from 1975, "The Bucs Are Coming" after the team got it's name and logo. Equally rare I suspect.
6:07am, April 18, 2010
matador
pft's recent article showed we were actively pursuing brandon marshall. which would be encouraging except it ends up being yet another example of how we are hamstrung by the current ownership and their ill conceived (using high interest loans when the pound was much higher vs the dollar) acquisition of man u. not only do we simply not have the personnel, neither do we have the financial firepower to fix the situation.
and for the 'he wasn't worth the cost or the risk' crowd, it cost 2 #2's from a team drafting quite a bit lower than us, so the cost of the trade to us would have been less, perhaps our #2 this yr and #3 next.
i was going to list off our #2-3 picks over time to show how acceptable that price would be, but i don't even have to - looking at our #1's you have to go back to '97, warrick dunn, to get to a pick where not having the player would have really impacted our franchise.
as to the risk of signing a volatile personality to a long term deal, if you read pft's articles on the contract structure, there is only $12.5 mill guaranteed. this for a 26-yr old wr avg'ing 100+ catches a yr.
we are nowhere, and going nowhere, until one buc place is cleared of detritus.
"...Klis reports that the Seahawks were the most aggressive team throughout the process, but the Bucs also showed serious interest..."
10:46am, April 18, 2010
Horse
So here we are in 2010, and Morris is attempting to do the same thing as Wych/Dungey did and that was to have a strong defense first.
I am comfortable that 3 out of our first four picks will be defensive players.
Just four more days to go.
11:19am, April 18, 2010
JoeG31581
Not entirerly true.... There first trade acquisition was a TE.. there first draft pick was a QB.... then he stated that the #1 priority this offseason was #5... to me that tells me he's a little more focused on offense. I dont know why you think that just because we have a good history of winning with defense means that we HAVE to build our defense first... this league is all about offense right now so even though this is a defensive heavy draft we could very well see alot of offensive players selected
1:19pm, April 18, 2010
Horse
. After a 3-13 season where the defense couldn't stop the run or break up a pass, you think maybe Morris learned? You bet he did.
If you remember when freeman was drafted, the statement was made over and over that 2010 was going to be weak for QB's and that was one of the reasons they took a QB in 2009. After that pick, the Bucs went defense in the 3rd and 4th round.
I believe they will go defense in rounds 1 & 2 this time and 3 & 4 in offense this time.
What do you think is going to happen in the first three rounds?
I'd like to know your opinion on this.
3:12pm, April 18, 2010
JoeG31581
3:19pm, April 18, 2010
JoeG31581
3:22pm, April 18, 2010
JoeG31581
3:36pm, April 18, 2010
Horse
I don't see how we can have a bad draft at all even if we selected all offense or defense.
4:01pm, April 18, 2010
JoeG31581
4:10pm, April 18, 2010
tblockboi
11:08pm, April 18, 2010
bucsnews
9:35am, April 19, 2010
dcrum35
You have Benn, Price, and Gilyard available at that point, I would be surprised if they didn't go WR.
ACTUALLY, I would be surprised if Demaryius Thomas WR Ga Tech is available at the first pick of round 2 and they do not take him instead of Hughes.
Based on who is available in this scenario, I'd go:
1. Ndamukong Suh DT Nebraska
2a. Demaryius Thomas WR Ga Tech
2b. Kareem Jackson CB Alabama
Then possibly take
Round 3 DE Jason Worilds Va Tech (maybe Greg Hardy DE Miss)
Round 4 OT Jason Fox UM OR RB Ben Tate Auburn or Joe McKnight USC
9:13am, April 20, 2010
dcrum35
He seems to be absolutely dominate at times, then dissappears other times.
Seems like a DE they could take a chance on in round 3-4, unless I am missing something.
9:14am, April 20, 2010
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