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Cook’s Analysis On Tampa Bay’s 2012 Draft

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Now that the Buccaneers’ 2012 draft has concluded, Pewter Report’s Mark Cook analyzes five aspects about Tampa Bay’s draft that stood out. Click this article to get Cook’s expert opinion
With the Buccaneers’ 2012 draft now completed, there are several things that stand out – most of which are good – but a few things that are a little concerning. Pewter Report’s Mark Cook and Scott Reynolds look at five aspects of Tampa Bay’s drafting last week. First up is Cook’s analysis, followed by Reynolds’ observations on PewterReport.com on Wednesday.

1. Character counts – First and foremost, the entire attitude and philosophy appears to be changing regarding the character of the players brought in under Greg Schiano’s watch. This isn’t a knock on Raheem Morris or Jon Gruden, but more of compliment to the organization finally realizing that the fans of the Buccaneers do care about the character of their football team. Wins are nice and can make fans forget about off-the-field issues to a degree, but if you combine bad football with questionable attitudes and behavior the fans won’t show up, as witnessed by the half-full stadium over the past few seasons.

Fans can’t expect the Buccaneers to draft team captains every season, but the fact that the first five picks were captains was a great public relations move by the organization. And of course it doesn’t hurt that all five appear to be pretty good football players on college film and on paper.

There is no way to say in April how it will affect the locker room in August, but it appears it was a calculated move by general manager Mark Dominik and Schiano to first make the team more likeable to its fans, and secondly, to provide a foundation of leadership for the future.

2. Speedy seventh-round steal? – The second thing that was a positive from this draft was Tampa Bay’s ability to get Utah State running back Michael Smith in the seventh round. While he is certainly not a household name, Smith toiled in anonymity for the most part at Utah State behind leading rusher Robert Turbin until the final two games of his collegiate career, in which he rushed for 121 yards in the regular-season finale against New Mexico State and 157 yards in the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl against Ohio.

Sharing the backfield with Turbin, Smith still managed to rush for 870 yards during his senior season, averaging an incredible 7.6 yards per carry. Already some comparisons are being made to the Saints’ Darren Sproles, but Smith’s 5-foot-9 frame is slightly taller than the 5-foot-7 Saints speedster. However, his burst and moves in the open field are unique, and something the Tampa Bay area hasn’t seen since Warrick Dunn.

Let’s be honest though, Smith has a lot to prove before any legitimate comparisons can be made to Sproles or Dunn. However, running a 4.32 in the 40-yard dash at his pro day created a buzz among NFL general managers, who must have all figured they could steal Smith towards the end of the draft.

Yet it was Dominik who made the call first, and told the media Saturday night he was immediately called by an unnamed team that offered its sixth-round pick in next year’s draft to acquire Smith.

3. Draft day maneuvering –
The third most impressive thing to come from this season’s draft was Dominik’s ability to wheel and deal, and getting the players he and Schiano coveted. First, the move to down trade from the fifth overall pick to No. 7 in the first round allowed the Buccaneers to reclaim a fourth-round pick they had surrendered last season in order to move up to select tight end Luke Stocker in the fourth round of the 2011 draft. With a 4-12 record there was obviously a number of holes to fill and Dominik was adamant that he wanted the pick back – or at least seven players added to the roster. And he was able to do just that.

While he ended up giving the fourth-round draft pick back later to move up in the second round to select Nebraska linebacker Lavonte David, Dominik was able to at least secure another seventh-round selection, giving the Buccaneers a total of seven picks total. It is too early to say if the decisions were correct, but credit must be given to Dominik for playing poker with the league’s other general managers and doing it well.

4. Moving up to get Martin – The fourth big positive to come from the 2012 NFL Draft was Tampa Bay’s ability to acquire Boise State running back Doug Martin, who was generally thought to be the second-best back in this year’s class. Martin has been compared to Baltimore’s Ray Rice, and like the Sproles-Smith comparisons, it is way too soon to say if they are fair or not. But Martin brings versatility to the Buccaneers that LeGarrette Blount has been unable to prove to the organization over the past two seasons.

Besides incredible numbers, which include 3,431 yards rushing and 43 touchdowns in his career, in addition to 67 receptions for 715 yards and four scores, Martin is a high-character, hard-working, blue-collar type of football player that seems to fit the Schiano mentality of what he desires in an athlete.

Schiano was on the nationally syndicated radio program, The Jim Rome Show, on Monday and was clear that he sees Martin as a complement to Blount as opposed to a replacement. Schiano told Rome that the NFL is more of a two-back league these days and thinks Tampa Bay has a great one-two punch with Blount and Martin.

5. The Bucs failed to properly address cornerback –
The one negative that may strike Bucs fans was the team’s inability to add more depth at the cornerback position. Tampa Bay has high hopes for West Virginia’s Keith Tandy, but let’s face it, sixth-round corners rarely make the Pro Bowl. Of course, Tandy should be no worse than E.J. Biggers, or the disappointing Myron Lewis, and will have a legitimate shot to make the 53-man roster.

Cornerback Aqib Talib, who is in a contract year, will face a grand jury in Texas on aggravated assault charges involving a firearm on June 25, and 37-year old Ronde Barber may not return in 2013. The addition of Lions’ free agent Eric Wright is more of a Band-Aid fix as opposed to reconstructive surgery at the cornerback position that the team needs. The Buccaneers are well aware they couldn’t fix everything in one season, and you would have to believe that cornerback would be the major point of emphasis in free agency and the draft in 2013.

Even with Tandy aboard, most fans would have liked to have seen another cornerback added via the draft. But maybe Iowa State’s Leonard Johnson, who was signed on Monday, can do enough to impress the Bucs coaching staff and develop into a quality NFL starter for Tampa Bay.

All in all – on paper at least – it appeared the Buccaneers upgraded the talent level on their football team with the seven picks made over this past weekend.

Visit PewterReport.com on Wednesday for Reynolds’ analysis on Tampa Bay’s 2012 draft.

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    Watch LB Goode to get some playing time in the middle on short yardage. He is a thumper! Could end up being a big steal in this draft
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    The first 3 guys taken in this draft are going to make Bucs fans happy for many years down the road. Won't know until three years later, but Barron will be such a pleasant sight to see him make the big hits in run support, cover tight ends in our division and be a leader. I really think Martin will be the next Ray Rice and David will open some eyes with his ability to cover guys and with his hard hits. Couldn't be happier with these 3 picks. Smith is going to open many eyes coming up with his speed and more importantly with his ability to break tackles for his size. If he can catch like they say, he will be our next Sproles! They will address the CB position when teams start making their cuts before the season starts or maybe a trade like Jenkins for the right price.
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    So far, I didn't hear anyone say we had a bad draft. I think that most everyone sad we had a good draft. My question was about why we didn't get bigger LB's, not heavier LB's and about drafting a CB earlier than the 6th round. Then we got off the main subject, me included. We still have an older CB that has lost a step, a CB we picked up in Free Agency that is okay, and a CB who we are counting on big time with a possible trial yet to be resolved and no matter what how many games the NFL Commissioner is going to penalize him for his behavior. That's all I am saying. Before the draft I said that we needed a Strong Safety and predicted that the Bucs would take Barron. Then I said we needed to draft a CB or LB; whoever was rated the best in the second round, followed up with the other pick in the third round. When we lost our 2nd round pick by picking up a RB even though it was a solid pick but not necessarily the top three needs, it threw the drafting all off and thus we ended up not picking a CB before the 6th round. We still had a good draft, but the glaring need at CB is still there. That's just my opinion. Again we still had a good draft.
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    CB may still be addressed in a trade or a cap casuaty as training camp approaches. If not I think they will play more zones than probably Schiano wants but it will be necessary as the only corner capable of man coverage (Talib) may be suspended. I think the Bucs need to acquire a veteran CB namely Jenkins. We need some veterans to assist the young players grow and learn the ropes. I also wouldnt be opposed to adding a veteran safety to come in and push Barron. We saw with McCoy that simply handing high draft picks starting jobs doesnt work. Earn the spot and keep the next man up ready at the same time.
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    Thanks, Scubog, point well taken! Let's celebrate the team we have know and let go of the teams and coaches of the past. Man, even Schiano has given the players a clean slate. Time for the fake fans to do the same and let go of the sterotypes and name calling (thugs) etc. If you want to follow Raheem, by a Redskins hat and join their blog.
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    Agreed...Schiano has come along saying the right thing and people want to bash Raheem who might I add almost won Coach of the Year in 2010. I think we all agree that a fresh start was needed but to bash a man for practices that we praised him for the previous season is absurd. And since no one else will say it I will definitely go on record and say that had we spent that money with Raheem that is being shelled out for Schiano his results would have been far different. Also to this notion that Raheem drafted "thugs" the only quote "thug" he drafted was A. Clayborn and last I checked he was probably the most consistent defender we had. Talib and Tanard were GRUDEN's draft picks not Raheem. Its far too easy to see black coach and associate the word thug when in all actuality these players were drafted by someone else. Now with all that being said they have forked over tons of money this offseason and brought in the players so Coach Schiano better bring better results.Ater all if lowly Raheem can win 10 games with these thugs 2 years ago we should certainly be in store for 11 plus wins!
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    I can't believe you have to bring race into this forum! I think raheem did what raheem could do with what he had. But I also think raheem made a terible mistake by going out and partying with his players. we gave up over 500 points last year and it was on raheems watch. enough said.
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    Isn't it time we all move past the "Gruden won with Dungy's team" myth? I've never heard "Dungy won with Wyche's Hall of Famers" (Lynch, Sapp & Brooks). Isn't it time we move past the "Morris was a party boy whose team was made up of thugs"? This is 2012! Let's look forward and stop regurgitating the past. Other than Talib's well-documented issue, who on the current team would be considered a "thug"? Please don't mention Blount swinging on a guy who was trying to rub his nose in a loss. We all might have popped the guy. "Don't need Pro Bowl players to win". Maybe they don't have to be chosen to play in the soon to be defunct game; but they sure need to be of that caliber. Fact is all teams are mostly made up of the same level of player except for an elite few. Whoever has the most elite players (especially QB) has a far better chance to win. This team is not devoid of talented players, it is merely lacking maturity and experience. "The future is so bright I have to wear shades."
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    Your right about not having Pro Bowlers to win. Dallas has 13 in 2007 and lost to the Giants in the Playoffs who then went on the win the Superbowl and they probably only had one Pro Bowler. It might help in the regular season though.
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    Character is overrated! People didn't show up to games because the economy is bad, the product on the field is bad, ticket prices are outrageous, & last but not least out side of the Gator's & Seminole's areas this state has some of the most disloyal fans in the country.
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    Horse, I don't think you are really aware of the size of the players you are talking about. You really should find out before saying those things. Goode is smaller than David? Not so, Goode weighs 244 lbs and hits like a mack truck. Martin small? He is 5'9" but he weighs 223 lbs; not small at ALL!! Michael Smith is small? No RAINEY is small and many wanted him. Smith weighs over 200 lbs; one report said 205 and another said 210. That IS NOT a small back! Smith actually outweighs David Wilson, who was taken by the Bears right after we took Martin. Wilson reportedly weighs 206 and is considerably SLOWER than Smith!
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    Mark, I am glad you are analysiing for Pewter Report. Good Job! I, too, am 100% behind the Buccaneer Way, and I am so pleased with this year's draft. I watched the film on David and he is better than Keuchley. And don't forget, if necessary, David can play MLB too--he is very versatile. He will be a superstar LB. However, I think his talents will best be used at weakside LB. Anyone who thinks Vince Lombardi couldn't do anything with Quincy Black, don't forget he was a starter at Strongside LB when we won 10 games. The difference was he wasn't playing with a bum ankle that year. I think he can carry MLB at the start of the year, and eventually, I believe Goode will take over that job or be a great backup there. Foster is big enough to play Strong Side LB and should be moved there. If we use our first round pick for a CB next year, we will be OK there. Didn't you see what Jon Gruden pointed out about Claiborne on ESPN (that I did not realize) the film showed hiim missing tackles. If Talib does not get to play all year Rhonde can move back to CB and we'll be OK until next year's draft. DOM deserved to stay and I thank the Glazers for realizing it. He was great in this year's draft and so was Schiano too. I look for an exciting season ahead!!!!
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    I wouldn't have been so disappointed with them not addressing cb in the draft if they had gone after Asante Samuel who went to Atlanta for a 7th round pick. He's much better than the 7th round cb we have now. I don't understand why so many people get down on Blount. Dude is a straight baller. He gives it his all on every run. Mistakes he's made can be corrected along with his receiving. After I watched Martins highlights I was imressed. He runs hard and fast with some serious vision. I can't wait for him to finally 'get it' at the NFL level. Him and Blount together are gonna be a dynamic duo.
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    PS; The last high character coach was chased out of town with a winning record and a nice character. Tony Dungy, remember! I guess winning is everything!
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    Quedogg, actually the Rah team had quite a few high draft picks on it. Not really all that many 7th RDers. Although most of us are done looking in the past, the fact is Raheem Morris was blasted nationally by numerous analysts and ex NFL players and commentators for running sloppy lax practices, having no discipline over his players and as reported, clubbing with players. Let me tell you, instead of clubbing real coaches are watching film and trying to find that edge to WIN. The guys that were drafted are the type that are watching game film or working out or SLEEPING while the other guys are out clubbing. What Schiano says is true. If you put the work in and do everything you can to get better, you will win. Character is an issue, usually people with character are people with a good work ethic and trustworthy people. You need trust that your teammate will do his assignments correctly. I'm no angel myself but character goes a long way. People with character don't ( usually ) punch cabbies, shoot at people, drink and drive, and the list goes on. Tampa Bay has had quite a history with having players get involved with the law and it's time they turn over a new leaf. Not only do those players end up getting suspended but it looks bad for the team. I like the new " Buccaneer Way". I also LOVE this draft and can't wait to see how it ends up 3 years from now or so.
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    I do think the Bucs had a good draft this year. But I wish people would quit saying what a positive change Coach Schiano brings. He might be a good coach, I hope he is a good coach. But he hasn't won anything yet. I get sick and tired of people running down coaches after they leave. Dungy was a great coach. Gruden was a great coach. I don't know that Morris was truly given a chance (only 3 years). And this reference to the whole team being thugs, I just don't get it. Is there no loyalty anymore?
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    artpac, Morris was not a good head coach nor defensive coordinator coach. The jury is out yet on his DefensiveBack skills until this year is over. I believe that Dungy was a great Coach and could have taken us to the superbowl. I believe that Gruden was a good coach.
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    David and Martin are my favorite pick ups. With Blount/Martin running the rock we will just have to remind Blount not to punch him as he likes to do this to Boise State players, just saying.
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    Great take Mark. I don't understand why people are so down on LGB!?! The guy was an undrafted rookie who's come in without an offseason and has wildly exceeded reasonable expectations! I mean come on, how is he supposed to pick up the intricacies of the passing game with hardly any coaching, cramming to learn the playbook, and an OC who refused to run the ball!? He has my support, and I'd like to see others appreciate what hes done instead of bashing him. Anyways, I love the bucs draft and I applaud Dom for obviously taking schianos wishes so seriously. Coming from someone who's questioned Dom in the past, he's really impressed me with his performance so far this offseason. I guess I'd rate attitude above character. As some of the above posters pointed out, there is something to great defensive teams living on the edge, but they had the attitude that was about forcing their will on the opponent. Mark: give LGB some love! As you have pointed out all the above reasons for his lack of production in the pass game-- don't just propagate the line so popular in the media that he can't do it -- your too good for that.
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    buc1932, I am a Blount believer and he has shown so far that he is a solid citizen as long as he stays away from his Perry Florida friends. He has a role to play as a hard ground pounder and he has accomplished that role and will continue to improve on his blocking and catching skills..
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    QueDogg86 - Your comments show your background. Raheem had the same team in 2010 and managed to win 10 games with his loosey-goosey style, but it was clear that by last year they no longer respected him and he didn't have the team ready to play. Too many hours at the Blue Matini and not enough in the film room and the players began to think they could just show up and play. While having a team a choir-boys does not win per se, you are more likely to win with high character guys than with a bunch of "playas" who spend more time in local clubs than in the gym or studying film. I'll take a team full of Ronde's any day over a team full of bad boys. That only works in the hood.
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    Artpac, you make a very good point! I'm just tired of people using "coded" words like "thugs" and "hood" to describe players that they are cheering for weekly. If you have a problem with a players on or off field performances use proper terms to describe what you mean. Has anyone actually seen Raheem Morris partying with players? And what relevance does it have now! Move on please, and I am a person that actually played college Basketball, so I know for a fact that coaches look to win first. Stop, looking for professional atheletes to raise your kids and to be your role models. By, the way my background is a retired police officer with 26 years of service.
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    QueDogg86, now you spinned it differently and announce that you are a retired police officer. Thank you for your service and i really mean that. If any group who took pride and trying to maintain ethics, it would be the police department. That's why I am surprised especially now with what you said. There use to be a sports announcer in the local area in the 50's, 60'S and 70's who always use to say at the end of his sports time on the TV that whether you win or lose, always be a good sport.
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    this is a poor assumption about Police officers. Having worked in the mental health field for many years, I can tell you that overwhelmingly there is certain personality type that gravitates to that job. High riske, high adrenaline. there is a dramatically higher rate of alcoholism and drug addiction (including steroids) than the "civilian" population, and what comes out in counseling are strong desire to "put down" the 'bad' guys. Cops are more likely to be 'thugs' than ball players!! This kind of info rarely gets across the "blue line" of secrecy. I'd rather deal with a mugger than cop with a chip on his shoulder pulling me over! High talent with low work ethic, low accountability to teammates is meaningless. The Bucs could have a Sapp on the team because they had high character guys all around him, Lynch, Brooks, Barber....
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    JayBuc52, I agree. there's no need to say anymore because QueDogg86 doesn't understand what character brings to any event.
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    Eric Wright a 7.5 million dollar year "Band-Aid fix?
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    They wouldn't go after Gaffney. They already have a full young receiving core. Why add a 31 year old when they just signed Vincent Jackson who I'm sure he is 29-30 already. Plus Mike Williams has way more talent and less mouth. They are better off going after Mike Jenkins from Dallas.
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    Hey Mark, great coverage of the Draft and the Buc's picks! I think we have the potential for a very exciting season. I noticed the Skins realeased their leading WR last year, Jabar Gaffney. His numbers were 68-947-5. He is 31, but he is experienced and could certainly challenge as the number 2 wideout. Heard anything about the Buc's interest in him? Go Bucs!
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    PS: Most fans would take a superbowl with a team full of so called "thugs" than a losing season with a team full of choir boys (Tebow/ JJ Reddick). Anyone remember the Detriot Bad Boys! Stop being silly, the team is putting a spin on a losing season to win back fan support. Character wins elections, not football games. Remember Lawrence Taylor, Hollywood Henderson, Micheal Jordan, Brett, Tiger Woods, Ty Cobb, and our very own Warren Sapp. Very good character players with rings. PS. Didn't Mike Pittman run over his wife after he won a super bowl?
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    Let's stop drinking the we played bad last year because of coaching kool-aid. The fact remains, that we put a roster full of 7th rounders and players that should not have prominent roles on a team. Surely, there were discipline problems with coach Morris. I just did not recall the free agent signing period last year (Punter) compared to what Schiano had this year. With Vince Lombardi, Biggers and overpriced Black, would still suck.
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    The emphasis of this draft was quality football players. Schiano and Dominik keep mentioning their tape study and the players that jumped out on tape were the ones they gravitated towards. It's not all about the measurables. It's about the play on the field. I like the fact that this regime recognizes that.
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    Great article guys. As a fan who lives in the dixie chicks area (unfortunately) it has been extremely difficult these last few years. I believe this organizayion made the right hire in Coach Schiano and had one of the better drafts in recent history. Hope to see more Bucs games in the future. GO BUCS.
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    C'mon dont beat up the Dixie Chicks, or were you just referring to not living in Tampa? I agree with you on the hire. Thanks for commenting on the story and good luck with the Chicks!
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    Great article. I agree on all points made except the one about the need for two CB's in the mid to late rounds. This year I think there was a wealth of CB talent in the 1st round but a huge drop off after that. I wanted Claiborne because he is going to be awesome, but I've said before we needed LB's just as much as CB's, if not more so. I think we're going to be fine at CB this year if we stay healthy, but by my eyes we still don't have a starting caliber MLB on this team. We have L. David for starting WLB, Hayward and Goode measure up as backup WLB's or MLB's and everybody else is best fit to be a SLB.
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    I also hear that Goode and Tandy are sure tacklers that can pack a punch. I can't wat to see the 7th rounder run !!! He may be the steal of the draft. I know nothing about him except for what I have read, but ALL I have read has been wonderful. I can't understand how anyone, at any position, with that much speed drops to the 7th anyway, but I am real glad we got him. Even if he ends up not working out, it is only a 7th. But it will be exciting to watch during camp and the pre-season. The TE also seems to be a real intriguing prospect. Can't wait! Go Bucs !!
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    To add on a little....After researching Clairborne a little more and watching some tape I realized he's not a sure tackler himself and actually missed a lot of open field tackles while at LSU. The last thing our defense needed was a class headed by yet another non physical defensive player. Barron will set the tone, David will continue the hard hitting in the LB group. Also worth noting Mike Jenkins from the Cowboys is currently on the trading block I assumed the Cowboys price was too high for him during the draft so now he could possibly be acquired(barring medical clearance) for 1 5th or 6th rounder. Then that gives us Talib and Jenkins on the outside....Wright in the slot on nickel....and Tandy/Lewis/Gaitor/Biggers battling for the dime job and roster positioning. Ronde goes to FS and this gives them an EXPERIENCED secondary to combat the youth and the other defensive positions. Jenkins is also in the last year of his contract and we know that usually equals career best seasons! Done with the rant but in short I love the draft picks Go Bucs!
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    stibusfan, if you can't make it with the Cowboys, I wouldn't expect him to make it with the Bucs.
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    didn't he become expendable due to Claiborne and their free agency pick up at corner?
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    heard complete opposite, that neither can be trusted in openfield or on outside consistently..neither will probably get looks at FS either...
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    macabee, the Bucs do extensive investigating into the players, especially ones with character concerns that they like. Maybe with Claiborne it truly was a one-time deal, but Dennard might have been a little more shady upon further digging. We just have to trust the scouts and coaches to do their job well. As for the Bucs getting bigger, Horse, I still LOVE the picks. They might not be big and TALL, but I think they are bigger. Or, at least have the ability to hit much bigger, which I believe is more important. I watched the "highlight" reel on Kuechley during the draft and he did not have one hard hit. As an earlier poster commented, he had a lot of drag down tackles. Even running downhill at the goal-line, he was dragged 3 steps sideways by the back before making the tackle. David's reel, however, showed a lot of powerful hits where he was sending RB's backwards. Sorry for the long post and GO BUCS ! ! ! !
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    makski, you made good points. I think we had a good draft, I am not sold quite yet as to why we did not draft a CB earlier than the 6th round.
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    Great article until the end. I really think corner is not a big of an issue as people make it out to be. When Aqib Talib is on the field and healthy, he is a shutdown corner who has proven to shutdown top receivers. Dominik knows it, Raheem knew it, and even Schiano already realizes it. That's the only reason he is still on the team and hasn't been cut yet. If Wright can be a good #2 corner (like they paid him to be) we then have an open competition between Ronde, Lewis, Gaitor, Biggers, and now Tandy and Johnson for the slot and nickel corners. Safety was way bigger of a problem, and I believe Barron has more upside than Clairborne.
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    @Horse- compare Derrick B rooks and Shelton Quarles maeasurables to Lavonte david and Goode and tell me size matters
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    Would just like to comment on point #1... I don't think the character issue is as much about making fans feel better about these guys... Ultimately, this is about building a better football team. Leadership, toughness, character, and hard work make a difference in the product on the field. It produces winners. The fact that Dominik and Schiano kept mentioning it, I believe, was totally public relations. It became rather tedious. I hope they continue to draft quality people in the future, but talk about it a lot less. That leadership and hard work are criteria when evaluating players is not remarkable.
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    Tandy will be a hybrid of CB and Safety for the Bucs and I look for Lewis to actually play well for Schiano.
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    I think people are to obsessed with "Pro Bowl players".. If we have a team full of solid to good football players we will be a consistantly winning team. Pro Bowlers arent a necessity.
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    I like the Schiano way and everything that it stands for. But I hope that it doesn’t make us so rigidly principled that we no longer have room for the exception. We needed a good corner and if Alphonso Dennard was good enough for Belichick in the 7th, I want to think he was probably good enough for us in the 6th. Keith Tandy may end up being all-world, but I wouldn't bet on it. Dennard was Big Ten defensive player of the year at CB and some analyst (WalterFootball) had him targeted as a 2nd round pick. He was a big physical CB that plays in the style that Schiano loves. He made a mistake, he punched a cop – remember we all like Adrian Clayborn and he punched a motorist too. We should strive to maintain our high standards, but remain flexible enough to do what is good for the team also! I would have picked Dennard in the 6th!
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    macabee, I am right with you.
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    You are correct on all FIVE Points and I would like to add another concern Mark? Pewter Report Mark, what do you think the reason was why we drafted such small LB's? David is not tall and Goode is even smaller. Didn't we hear since Coach Schiano has been here that we also wanted to get bigger? We did with our pick at the Safety position, but didn't at the RB picking two smaller guys. One would have been enough, but not two small RB's. I would have never traded up for Martin; infact I would have traded down in the 2nd round, not out of it, in order to pick up another draft pick. I would have stayed focused on CB's and bigger LB's if it was me and played with whatever we liked in the 7th round. Overall it was a good draft, but we sure needed two CB's in Rounds 2 -5.
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    @Horse- compare derrick bo oks and shelton quarles maeasurables to Lavonte david and Goode and tell me size matters
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    Horse, I understand where you are coming from with the cornerback situation. I was hoping for Dennard myself, brick hands but I know he as great coverage skills. I think that the coaching staff is seeing what they have on defense first before they start cutting, trading, and signing players on it. Bad coaching was a major issue last year. Who knows maybe Myron Lewis plays well this year and end up as starter.
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    Nicely done,MC BucBeat. I was hoping they would pick Dennard as they coveted him for more than a year and he was clearly falling. I guess that would fly in the face of charcter picks. Probably shouldn't punch a cop in he beak...bad for your draft status.
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    Glad character finally matters. Hate paying to see thugs on the football field wearing pewter and red. As far as the 7th rounder - I don't expect much from him - it'll be a longshot that he make the squad come 9 September.
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    Thugs? are you serious? GTFOH!
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    Another good article Mark. Wish I worked with you guys. I live, eat and breath Bucs. Keep up the good work.
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