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March 23, 2014 @ 8:19 pm
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Time For Tampa Bay To Move On From Troubled Williams

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Bucs head coach Lovie Smith and G.M. Jason Licht don't have a problem getting rid of high-character players who make too much money. Now it's time for Tampa Bay to move on from troubled WR Mike Williams after his third negative headline in the last three months, which was getting stabbed in the thigh by his own brother.
The Buccaneers parted ways with a Pro Bowl cornerback in Darrelle Revis because he made too much money and occupied too much precious salary cap space.

Tampa Bay parted ways with one of the most upstanding citizens, a two-time Pro Bowler and a Buccaneers Man of the Year in right guard Davin Joseph because he made too much money and his play slipped.

That combination of sub-par play and too high of a price tag was also the reasoning that led to the departure of two more good guys in left tackle Donald Penn and center-guard Jeremy Zuttah.

So why is wide receiver Mike Williams still on the Bucs’ roster?

Williams was stabbed in the thigh by his brother at his Tampa home on Sunday in what is the latest twist in the soap opera of the troubled Tampa Bay wideout. WTSP 10 News first reported the news of Williams’ stabbing.

This coming on the heels of a lengthy February report in the Tampa Bay Times detailing Williams’ property damage and trespassing misdemeanor, and his unruly and disruptive behavior with wild house parties and property damage in a home he rented in the quiet Lutz neighborhood of The Sanctuary.

That report was preceded by PewterReport.com’s story in January detailing the previous regime of general manager Mark Dominik and head coach Greg Schiano’s desire to release Williams this offseason due to his hard-partying ways and negative off-field behavior that resulted in fines of over $200,000 for missing or being late to multiple rehab sessions and team meetings during 2013. When PewterReport.com’s report came out in January regarding the leader of the Cave Man Gang rap group and party crew, it was met with some initial skepticism and even some disbelief, but it’s really hard to give Williams the benefit of the doubt now.

Perhaps when all of the facts come out, Williams may be completely innocent in this situation, or maybe there was a terrible accident that happened in his home. But with his brother on the run on Sunday night from authorities, who want to question him, it just doesn’t seem to be accidental. Trouble just seems to follow Mike Williams, doesn’t it?

There was definitely some buyer’s remorse in signing Williams to a six-year, $40.25 million contract extension this offseason by Dominik and Schiano, and that remorse had just as much or more to do with Williams’ character and off-field behavior as the months rolled along in the fall, as it did with his injury-plagued 2013 campaign. Williams missed 10 games and was put on injured reserve with a torn hamstring after catching just 22 passes for 216 yards and two touchdowns.

By December, Williams was not deemed to be a Buccaneer Man by Dominik and Schiano’s standards anymore. So how in the world could Williams be a Buccaneer Man by the high standards proclaimed by head coach Lovie Smith and general manager Jason Licht?

The only thing that could have been worse than the news of Williams being stabbed was that if he had been the stabber – or if someone had died.

Granted, it didn’t involve gunfire, nor did it involve an arrest of Williams as former Buccaneers cornerback Aqib Talib’s incarceration did a few years ago in Texas during the offseason. But doesn’t it seem like Williams is destined to enter Talib territory sometime soon?

Williams’ behavior as a wild child is not serving him well, nor does it look good for the Buccaneers. Say what you want about Schiano, but he had the guts to part ways with the likes of malcontents, such as tight end Kellen Winslow and running back LeGarrette Blount, and players of ill repute such as Talib, free safety Tanard Jackson and defensive tackle Brian Price even though it weakened the roster and robbed the team of some playmaking ability.

Talib and Blount were able to find a home at Bill Belichick’s House For Wayward Buccaneers (otherwise known as the New England Patriots), and with his uber-strict environment, coupled with a much-needed change of scenery, those two players were able to steer clear of trouble and salvage their promising NFL careers. Smith and Licht would be well served to attempt to deal Williams to New England, which still needs help at wide receiver despite re-signing Julian Edelman and adding Brandon LaFell in free agency.

But Schiano has likely already informed his buddy Belichick to steer clear of Williams. The truth is that Williams doesn't have much trade value at all.

What made parting ways with Revis, Joseph, Penn and Zuttah easy was that each moved created additional salary cap space. Cutting Williams this year would create a cap hit of $6.4 million in dead money.

This is due to Williams’ $1.2 million guaranteed base salary in 2014 and his $5.2 million guaranteed base salary in 2015. However, if the Bucs elect to designate Williams as a June 1 salary cap casualty, only $1.8 million would hit the books this year and an additional $5.2 million cap charge would hit in 2015. This would make the move more palatable this year, and with the expected rise in the 2015 salary cap to as much as $145 million, according to some estimates, the $5.2 million could be more easily absorbed next year.

Smith has been vocal about his displeasure with Williams’ antics and off-field behavior.

“There’s a pattern here and it’s disturbing. No one is bigger than this football team,” Smith said in February. “He has to understand that. Have I been disappointed in Mike Williams? Of course. 

“There’s a standard. We’re just not going to put up with it, no matter who it is. You have to be good on the field and off the field. Simple as that. And if you’re not doing what you need to do one or the other, you have problems and that’s where Mike has to take care of a few things.”

Yes, he does. Williams has spent the 2014 offseason rehabbing his torn hamstring. Now he has to rehab a stabbed thigh, and a damaged reputation – neither of which is helping the Buccaneers.

There's no doubt that Williams was a victim of violence on Sunday, and that's unfortunate. We don't know all the facts just yet, but people don't tend to get stabbed in their home by family members without some cause. If nothing else, Williams may be the victim of his own poor decision-making once again, but that's a problem outlined by Smith.

Williams is a good number two receiver – nothing more. He has come very close to eclipsing the 1,000-yard mark twice in his four-year Bucs career, but he is not irreplaceable. Wide receiver is already an area of need for Tampa Bay, and his release would cause an even greater hole on the roster.

With a couple of servicable free agent wide receivers left on the market, such as Louis Murphy, Jacoby Ford and Sidney Rice, a deep draft full of receivers, headlined by Clemson’s Sammy Watkins, and a couple of veteran pass-catchers bound to be released after the draft or after June 1, as former Tampa Bay flanker Keenan McCardell was in 2002, Williams could be replaced via several different avenues.

The precedence has already been set by Smith and Licht in Tampa Bay. If you can’t help the Buccaneers and you cost too much money, it’s time to go. Williams fits the criteria.

Throw in Williams’ poor decision-making and questionable character, and this should be an easy decision for Smith and Licht to make. It’s time for Tampa Bay to cut Williams.
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    Way too soon to say move on now.He hasn't been half as bad as Talib and we are not deep at WR! Don't know if we should keep him past next season but for now he hasnt had any felonies. Just needs good talking to by Lovie and get his crap together. After him and Jackson the talent at WR drops off quickly and one draft won't fix that IMO. Also glad to se someone using a football forum to push idiotic political agenda about guns. Since he was stabbed not shot maybe we should ban knives? That might make eating steak a bit difficult but hey if it saves one life. Lol.
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    Let's just stop all this standing on such a high moral ground that we over blow things. Football is a ferocious game, a violent game and the guys playing it are Ferocious and violent. Sometimes they get a little out of control. A good coach saves them from themselves and thus helps the team in the case of talented players like Williams. Mike is out there on the edge on the personal conduct front for sure. Williams proved himself to be a lout and a lousy neighbor out in "The Sanctuary" in Lutz. It is embarrassing to the Bucs organization and to Bucs fans as well. This kid has no experience in being a multi-millionaire yet. He needs to grow up for sure. I would keep him on a short leash, but I would keep him because he is such a good player when well. It's not like Williams was the stabber, he was the stabee. I can see that the "Avila for lunch bunch" doesn't want "Jack the Ripper" living next door, so maybe Mike needs to find another neighborhood. Maybe he should find a neighborhood less pretentious because if he keeps this up that's where he'll be living when it's all said and done. Bellicik is probably licking his chops. Schiano and Dominik should have parlayed last year's Talib-Blount give away into jobs with the Pats at least. You have to believe a coach of Lovie's character can turn Mike around.
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    @BucWild02. Where was it initially published/reported Mike Williams had been shot? And furthermore, where was it reported Tanya Harding stabbed anybody? Somehow, the Words "Clubbed to the back of the knee" by her then thuggish boyfriend comes to mind.
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    Maybe he will be better if you give him some more money . Maybe his brother was just trying to fix his hamstring .
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    And who exactly do the Bucs have at WR after Vincent Jackson to replace Mike Williams Scott?
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    3 route receiver, 8 to 12 yrd slant,goal line double move , jump ball and that's it !!! too slow !! I would take Sidney Rice any day !!
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    Thank you all for the kerrigan/harding corrections. For the record, it was initially reported that his brother shot him. It's fortunate a gun wasn't used. I just hope Mike gets the help he needs.
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    Wake up Mike! Talib now has a big career ahead of him because he has put his transgressions behind him now and is focused on helping his team who is paying him a lot of money. You can do the same. You dropped way too many passes at the start of last year and got away with it but I can tell you right now that won't cut it with Lovie. He demands your best or else you are gone. You have to stop focusing on playing around and get serious and focused on being ready to star this season for the team that is paying you a fortune. You need to grow up in a big hurry or else it is goodbye and thanks for the great memories.
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    The Bucs should do what Mike Williams brother has already done -CUT HIM!
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    Forget the latest blunder. Does he have the speed to take the top off a defense, how many pro bowls has he been to, and does he work hard, and love football? No ,no, no, and no. He's an average receiver at best, and more trouble off the field then a game changer on it, add that to the fact he's way over paid for what talent he has.To say S.R. wants him gone because he's not a man of god is silly, he's not a man at all. Cut this loser. Pink speaking of Talib, and Blount for that matter, why didn't the Pats resign Talib if he's so great? Real reason, Talib could never stay heathy. Welker took him out for Pete's sake. I don't believe he's played in all 16 games since he's been drafted. So for all those who keep pointing to the fact we let Blount, and Talib go, well so did the great Belichick after only one year. What does that say?
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    Surferdudes - The same reason the Chargers didn't re-sign V. Jackson. Or the Bengals didn't re-sign M. Johnson or all the teams that didn't re-sign all the FA's we just got through signing. Talib just signed a multi-year deal with a Super Bowl contender that averages $9.25 million/year. The debate on whether Talib is a great CB is completely over and if we had let the debate end after the 2010 season when it should have, he would still be here at a cheaper price.
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    yea, that "evil" Mike Williams doesn't fit YOUR "God Squad" views, so we should cut him. Hard to take you seriously anymore.
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    _ _ _ _ _ I can solve that puzzle..... Idiot.
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    A fool and his money are soon parted...MW defenders,I see your point..what I don't see is the point in trying to keep a guy involved in football who obviously distracted by the shine of another spotlight..these are millionaires with a world at their disposal- if they choose to surround themselves with the lowest common denominators,what can you do for the guy- the world is his oyster yet he chooses the bottom feeders...dump him,he has shown his focus is elsewhere- the Bucs need to do the same..No amount of money can buy class or brains so the MW end has already been told..he will end up like Jamarcus Russell ,fat,broke and out of football very soon..great friends you got MW,and I. Sure your brother is a peach..
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    I agree with what Toofamiliar17 said. This team will never win a Super Bowl until production becomes the highest priority, team chemisity becomes the 2nd priority and character/good behavior off the field becomes a distant third. SR, did you learn nothing from the whole Talib ordeal? Talib just signed a long term $9.25 million/year contract with a Super Bowl contender and we traded him for a 4th round pick. The team that traded Talib has gone 4-12, 7-9 and 4-12 over the last 3 seasons. That should be way more embarassing to everyone than stories like this. Articles like this are what lead to trades like that. We all applauded the re-signing of M. Williams and now people are saying he's an average possesion WR? The average NFL salary for a WR is not $6.67 million/year. Most NFL WR's don't even get a 2nd contract offer. We as a Buc fanbase have to stop distorting the past and also get a better understanding of leads to a team making the Super Bowl. These football players are entertainers. They shouldn't be scrutinized any more for character issues than musicians or actors, who do a lot worse and get in less trouble.
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    Williams likely doesnt care, he'll get paid whether he plays or not, likely he would prefer to take the guaranteed money and get on with his rappin', without football conflicts.
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    So because MW got stabbed by his brother he should be cut? Thats a joke right? All of the other minor stuff hes done before does not constitute him being cut. He just needs to get a slap on the wrist like a suspension with no pay or something along those lines. Lets face it, if they cut MW the only wide receiver worth talking about on the team is an aging VJAX. This offense is going to suffer worse than last year...WTF are they doing at WR?!?!?!? sign some one already!
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    the way i look at it is i want players to be held accountable in regards to criminal conduct. Williams has not been charged with anything and in fact could be a victim of a crime. If one of your co-workers was assulted would you be comfortable seeing them get fired if they had an indiscretion in the past? the fact of the matter is that when williams is on the field and healthy he is a productive football player. if we wouldnt have to eat over six million in dead cap i would be more on the side of getting rid of him. but because of the large amount of dead money combined with the fact that williams is a good player and we lack wide recever depth i say we keep him unless criminal activity is later noted.
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    I don't see the big deal, I can't tell you how many times I've been stabbed in the leg while rough housing with my brothers. Geez, what's a little assault with a deadly weapon between relatives, in my family, it is how you show that you love them. We have bragging rights over the largest amount of stitches needed to get patched up, over which we usually argue and then the stabbing starts all over again. Another thing is people now want to cut him....I thought his brother already did that?
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    @BucWild02. Williams was stabbed not shot. He needs help getting his act together. Since cutting him would not make sense and trading him may not happen after the well published stabbing incident I'm thinking fining him the maximum allowed and having the team talk to him will go a long way. Sometimes this strategy works well. btw, How's Harding doing these days? Kerrigan just dropped off the radar. Too bad. They were both super stars.
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    @Bones: Harding's on a TruTV show very appropriately called "World's Dummest"!
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    No way is the article or suggested move a knee jerk. If you kept up with William's twitter page last season he obviously had little care for football. Also, the tweets were more unprofessional than the ones made by any other player on the team. Judging by that and the course of events that has taken place since it is clear that the team would be better off cutting Williams. The cap hit is worth getting the player out of the locker room and off the roster. He is an embarrassment to the Bucs. While the Bucs do not have the correct tools to acquire DeSean Jackson, LiLo still needs to acquire two quality receivers if they hope to have any sort of offensive production in 2014.
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    Btw, Scott, we cannot save or spread out any cap hits on Mike by designating him as a June 1 cut. The June 1 cut rule only applies to signing bonuses, of which Mike had none. The guaranteed money left on his contract cannot be dealt with in the same way bonus money can be dealt with by designating a player as a June 1 cut.
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    Here's the real reason you cut him, he's just not that good. This is a Dom mistake, whatever L and L do I won't blame them. Dom heard about these problems but signed him to a big deal, why, because he couldn't afford to have another draft bust on his resume. He lacks speed, doesn't train or rehab, and parties way to much. There's many receivers in this draft with more talent, and speed, we'll get at least one. Why no FA receivers yet? Maybe L and L see some young guys on our roster that fit what they want to do on offense. Cut bait with this idiot, I want to talk about how bright our future is, not what trouble caveman is in now!!
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    All of Williams' issues are in fact troubling... But our need at WR is pretty high on our list of needs and even though he is not the speedy receiver that we need he would still make a great #3 receiver that would could really solidify our WR corps if we can find that speedy receiver... He has had some success that he can build on if he can get his priorities straight and I would really like to see what he can do with the positive influence of Lovie and the high character guys that he has brought in... Williams' maturity I feel was stifled by the fact that he first had a coach that was trying to be his friend followed by a coach that was overbearing and controlling... Coming from someone who has made a few mistakes and caused my share of issues when it comes to drinkin and partyin and was given a second chance with the assistance of guidance and support I feel that there is a chance that Williams could turn this ship around with the kind of leadership that Lovie and his Crew could provide him... Without knowing the facts of the situation with his brother I kind of feel like this has become a Witch Hunt with you guys at Pewter Report and in some interviews I've heard with Lovie and Licht it sounds like they haven't even had a chance to talk to him yet... So I am all for giving him a chance to get some proper support and guidance from this new regime and teammates and along with his potential and past production I think there is a decent chance that he could prove himself to be a valuable part of this team as long as he can finally grow up and be the man he needs to be... That is just my opinion... And whether or not it is a sentiment that is shared with fans or the coaching staff and ownership Is a different story... But I am willing to give him a real chance... And Penn and his constant inconsistency and Joeseph and his disappointing production is an unrelated issue... Williams is still very young and has yet to have the proper guidance in both his life and his professional career and I feel there is a wealth of potential and value to this team that has just yet to be unlocked... Here's to hoping Lovie holds the key...
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    Williams has not been arrested yet. He is a young man, maybe he needs a helping hand instead of throwing him out.
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    I believe that Mike should not be cut or traded for this last incident but he should be moved just for the reason that we can no longer trust Mike. How can a team go into the season not knowing if Mike will be able to make the game on Sundays. His teammates have to rely on him to show up for the games not partying or even worse be in jail. It's about accountability and with Mike he does not seem to have such a trait. Mike needs to go home and get a grip on his life and if that means telling all your friends and relatives to get out, so be it.
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    Schiano sending Blount and Talib to NE is hilarious when you consider the fact that he ended up paying Revis 16 million to do a job Talib could have done for a lot less. Then with the rash of injuries last year we actually needed another back while Blount was running in playoff games, yea we really got our point across on that one smh. This backwards thinking is what got us into this mess Mike Williams needs a trip the principals office but thats about it. Nothing criminal has been done and we have a need for WR WITH Mike Williams still on the roster so imagine how trading/cutting would look. Lovie has shown that he won't deal a player until he has a replacement under contract so if he upgrades our WR spot then I have no problem releasing MW but until then this wont help the Bucs in 2014 and I believe we have a coach more interested in wins than friends so we should be ok.
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    I think I know where Scott is coming from and agree. If this sets back his conditioning, mini-camp or camp play, why would we keep him? He didn't play that well before his injury last year. And seems other things are taking up major parts of his life, other than football. We need guys we can count on going into this season. If he had a small contract, maybe holding on to him and drafting his potential replacement might be the way to go. But they let Joseph and Penn go because they thought they might not be able to count on them to play up to their big contracts next year. Why should Williams be any different? Smith's coaching career is on the line, and why should he put it in the hands of Williams...you can't win with one starting receiver.
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    Here are the financial ramifications of cutting Mike Williams, per Overthecap.com. This, of course, is without any consideration of any clause in his contract that May or May not allow the team to save some money for conduct detrimental to the team. This year: Base salary guaranteed...$1,200,000. Workout Bonus....$600,000. $1,800,000 this year Cap # Projected dead money $6,400,000 Projected Cap loss....$4,600,000 Those are just the financial facts, without any possible clause that would lower the hit.
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    I wonder what kind of choices I would have made if I had millions of dollars in my pocket at the age of 25. Hell I made bad choices at the age of 25 with 20 bucks in my wallet. Everyone needs to relax and find out what happened and not just start screaming "cut him". All the players on the team don't have to be Pat Boone, anyone think that Sapp would have fit the mold of a Buc Man. That answer is no. Would they cut a player like Sapp? Likely yes, and that's too bad. Give Mike a chance here, he might surprise us.
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    Chetthevette: nice reference to Pat Boone! Too bad only those of us over 60 know who he was! "Ain't That a Shame"!
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    None of this looks good, and it totals up to someone who will more than likely not suit up for the Bucs again. He is talented - good hands, but not much ability to separate - but not irreplaceable as a #2 WR. He chose the wrong time to have a bad offseason with a new regime coming in, so he has provided ample excuses for them to part ways. More than likely a June 1 cut. And this is why he dropped to the 4th round of his draft class. With $6M of dead cap money likely be be lost, he's not much of a draft bargain now, eh?
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    As far as regrets go, I'd rather regret something I did rather than something I didn't do. Stupid mistakes are a great teacher. Having said that, I'd like to see Mike Williams somewhere else. He is an average body control receiver at best. A coverage breakdown guy. He's a nice insurance policy, but I'm tired of that type of offense. I'm ready to move on to a scripted attack. A planed dissection of a diagnosed defense. I'm tired of Buc Ball. We, as fans, need to expect more. VJax should be the low bar. He's at the end of his career. That's the way it's supposed to be. Williams has shown time and again that he can't beat single coverage from the #2 DB. He's lose with the football and his YAC is inconsistent. He's being paid more than he's worth. Period.
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    Why is it Williams fault that he got stabbed in his kitchen by his brother? Since I have yet to read anything from a reliable source, I think I will wait and see what happened. I know it is the off season and there is very little to write about, but I think some time is needed before we pass judgement.
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    It's nice to read the comments and realize that there are still people in society who want to gather all of the facts before lighting the torches and heading to the home of young Mr. Williams to facilitate his departure. Let's look at the issues that have been well publicized. 1.) Loud parties. 2.) Slammed door too hard. 3.) Victim (not perpetrator) of a stabbing) 4.) Missed rehabilitation sessions last year. 5.) Couldn't get feet in bounds negating TD against Saints. To me, # 5 and similar on the field lapses and a salary exceeding contribution to the team are what should be the motivation to divest ourselves of # 19. The minor nature of the others is troubling, but it's nothing like the murder in which Ray Lewis found himself involved or even the Aqib Talib shooting incident. Mike Williams with his $40 million, has created a lifestyle with a group of hangers-on who are in effect "killing the golden goose". I suggest he sit down quickly and have a discussion with fellow receiver Chris Carter and the reformed Mike Vick. Here's all you need to do Mike. Go home and tell anyone there. "Get out!"
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    scubog, well said. If I am the neighborhood HOA I would also help to move his belongings to another home for free. Seriously, he is caring some cap numbers this year and next year so we lose nothing if he can straighten out his social life. Fining him for just about everything would be an attention getter. I would treat him like a Marine Cadet and the drill sergeant should be SGT Lovie. I wouldn't show any love with him at this point. He needs help in understanding that he will still make about 7 million guaranteed, but later on in his life he would have wished that he had earned it. Character does matter. In todays world the way he is spending his money and the way he is living his life style; he'll be broke before he is 40. So after living here about half of his life and another half to go what would he have; zero. Wake up Mike.
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    Regardless of how this plays out, it looks like this years draft is set. in any order it appears we will be drafting OT, OG, WR, WR & position of next most importance. If no Mack or Watkins at 7 then take best available OL. 2nd round Best Available WR, then OG/OT and 5th rd WR. 7th rd can be used to find the true gem in the draft who will be our future 7th rd All Pro, Hall of fame, Best at what he does, Franchise changing superstar. But no pressure now LI-LO.
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    Bucwild, please read the article before you post. He was stabbed, not shot. You look foolsh posting nonsense. Almost as foolish as Mike Williams does thinking that the Cave Man Gang is a good name for a rap group. Theres no cure for stupid.
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    and Kerrigan wasn't stabbed? She was hit on the back of the knee with a club, and Harding didn't do it Gillooly did it for her.
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    I hope Mike Williams is OK. I wonder how bad the damage is? WHat part of his leg was shot? Which leg? Heavy caliber weapon? Flesh wound? Another reason the 2nd amendment should be changed. Not everyone should have the right to access guns. Sure, he could have stabbed him in the leg like tonya harding did to nancy kerrigan. That is doubtful though.
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    Monica Seles, a tennis player was stabbed in the back in 1993 with a 9 inch knife...maybe that is what you were thinkin of.........
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    Now, Now, there is no need to crucify Mike just yet. While he may be guilty of poor judgment, he hasn't been convicted of a crime yet. Granted on it’s face it is embarrassing and regardless of his guilt or innocence it doesn’t do anything to help an image already in question. But as I recall an Owner was arrested with 3 felony counts for illegal possession a few days ago. Things happen and things can be repaired. First I hope he has no injury that would affect his ability to play football or his value in a trade. I did a post today that suggested we seek to trade Mike. I said that without regard to his private life. Mike is a pretty good possession WR but can’t separate and can’t stretch the field, but he has good hands and can catch. I want to trade him because WR is the deepest position in this draft and we should seek to improve the performance of our team regardless of Mike’s personal life. We should not rush to cut him without first trying to trade him. His situation is not a first or unique in the NFL. He has value and regardless of his personal situation, there is some team that could use a Big WR that has a first year friendly contract. When all of the information is in, calmer heads will prevail and the right decision regarding Williams will be made.
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    Whatever the facts are, let's use this as a reason to get DJax! He'll take over VIcent Jackson's role next year as our #1WR
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    Wow, Scott, really? I didn't expect this from you. I don't get you taking THIS moment to editorialize about cutting Williams being the right thing. I have no idea what happened yesterday. Seriously, no idea. And judging by the omission of any info I didn't already know about this event, I'm guessing you don't either. I am one who thinks Mike should be on a short leash after his recent news-making, but this can't count towards that with no knowledge of the context of the situation. You could be right - maybe Mike needs to go. But to make that determination right now, while sitting in a dark room of ignorance about what took place, is reactionary, impulsive, judgmental, and generally just doesn't make much sense. You're better than this. And Mike's history, while not good, is also not exactly awful. He essentially has partied too hard, lost his temper on a door (something many of us, myself included, have done), and missed some meetings while sitting on IR. Again, I'm of the general opinion that Mike needs to grow up or split...but this can't count towards that reality until we know more.
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    Time to send him to the caves man...he has proven his heart isn't in football,it was in the money..cut our losses now and quit wasting a roster space on the guy- because out there is a WR HUNGRY to play in the NFL who just got one step closer to having a chance..it was fun while it lasted but the MW party is over..
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    Are there morals clauses in his contract which can void the contract?
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    Keep him and fine the heck out of him as he will continue to screw himself until it dawns on him that his career is passing him by.
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    Knee jerk much? Maybe Scott knows something we don't, but I can at least wait until the morning, when I might here more about what actually happened. Rather than speculate, I will wait for more facts, as I am sure L&L will do, and make a rational decision then.
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