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March 28, 2011 @ 10:00 am
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BREAKING: Felony Arrest Warrant Sought for Talib, Mother

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UPDATE: Texas investigators have issued a felony arrest warrant for Aqib Talib and his mother, Okolo.

As of Tuesday afternoon, the Garland Police Department has issued a felony arrest warrant for Bucs CB Aqib Talib and his mother Okolo Talib. Okolo turned herself into police custody Tuesday morning and Talib is scheduled to turn himself in later this week on behalf of the charge of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. His bail will be set at $25,000.


"We are deeply troubled by the serious charges filed against Aqib Talib," said Bucs general manager Mark Dominik. "Due to current labor circumstances, we will withhold any further comment or action."

Talib and his mother were charged with aggravated assault with deadly weapon. The charges are second degree felonies and could call for prison time of 5-20 years.

According to a report in the Dallas Morning News, Talib was involved in a shooting in Garland, Texas that took place on March 21. Talib, who has been rehabbing a torn hip ligament this offseason at his home in the Dallas area, was in an altercation with his sister, mother and his sister's boyfriend. The report says that two guns were involved and at least five shots were fired.

Talib has been described by the Garland Police Department's incident report as a "person of interest" and could be arrested and charged with discharging a firearm within a municipality, which is a class A misdemeanor, or aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, which is a second-degree felon, pending an investigation.

According to the police report, Talib allegedly tried to pistol-whip his sister Saran's boyfriend, Shannon Billings, and then used his mother's pistol and fired several shots at Billings as he fled the scene on foot. Billings was involved in a domestic dispute with Saran, who called 911 and her mother for help. Billings was arrested by while standing at a nearby residence. Police officers revealed that Billings was a suspect in two pending, related family-violence offenses involving Saran, which led to his arrest.


Billings had taken Aqib Talib's gun after a struggle and thrown it in a nearby trash can. According to the police report, Talib's mother, Okolo, fired three shots towards Billings as he fled on foot. Witnesses corroborated Billings' story.

This would not be the first anger-related instance for Talib, who was selected by the Buccaneers in the first round in the 2008 NFL Draft. Talib was involved in an altercation with teammate Cory Boyd in the NFL Rookie Symposium. The next year, Talib was involved in a helmet-swinging incident aimed at left tackle Donald Penn. Talib swung his helmet and inadvertently hit cornerback Torrie Cox, which opened a gash on the player's face.

In August 2009, Talib was arrested and charged with simple battery and resisting arrest after allegedly assaulting cab driver David Duggan. The case was later settled monetarily and Talib was forced to do 15 hours of community service and undergo eight hours of anger management, which forced him to miss the 2009 season opener due to a suspension from NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell. Talib violated that suspension by attending the game at Raymond James Stadium in a luxury suite.

Last year, Talib was involved in a verbal confrontation with officials following the team's loss at Baltimore.

According to the Dallas Morning News, the ouctome of Talib's legal situation will come down to whether the Garland police believe Talib was shooting at Billings, simply firing in the air to scare him away or if he was even shooting one of the two weapons at all.

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers declined to make an official statement on behalf of the organization on Monday. That was keeping in line with the stance other teams have taken lately in regards to player arrests. During the NFL lockout a few players around the league have gotten into legal trouble including the Packers' Johnny Jolly and Patriots' Brandon Meriweather. Green Bay and New England did not release statements and the Bucs were following suit by staying quiet.

Complicating the issue from the team's perspective is no staff member with the Buccaneers is allowed to speak to Talib during the lockout. Dominik and head coach Raheem Morris are not allowed to speak to the players, and in this case, find out Talib's side of the story. The organization also can not lend any legal assistance or advice that was normal prior to the lockout.

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    I honestly think that if his side of the story is true, that it was his mother and not him that fired the weapon, Aqib will be back with us for another season. No matter what happens with this sitch I think the bucs should really consider Smith from Colorado in Rd 1 or Asumugha in FA. Besides QB and LT, CB's are just as important as pass rush on the edges. Now if we take a Houston or Kerrigan, I will be thrilled with that too. Bottom line is, if Talib is innocent, he should be allowed one last opportunity and be brought back with the notion that the next public issue no matter big or small...and youre out.
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    Like everyone else, I don't know the details. However, as a brother, there comes a point that I would loose my mind and try to stop injustice, if that was really happening. The guy that Talib shot at is: * Involved in multiple incidents involving domestic violence * Was in the midst of a domestic violence situation when Talib/mom arrived * Had a physical altercation with Talib that involved physical violence and a gun * Did something that made Talib's mom feel that shooting him was the best options So, at what point is it possible that this dude needed to be dealt with. Shooting him may be over the line, but when you see a situation that a man repeatedly is abusing and physically hurting your sister, and the law hasn't done much to stop it, then I'm not sure Talib is "out of control". If Talib had showed up and started shooting first, (and as details come out, maybe he did) then that is crazy. But if he arrived, and this other guy was beating his sister and then turned on Talib... you might have a reason to shoot/defend yourself. I don't know what happened... so Talib may well be out of control here. In fact, we know he has a tough time managing his anger. This may be a situation that a person who has a bad temper issue would not have much chance, not matter how they are learning to control it. But there is also a long history and evidence to this dude being violent, so maybe Talib has a reason to do this. We shall see. We do need to plan as though he will not be on the field next year. Sad.
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    Hey, before anyone jumps on my comments. I know Tanard is a safety and Aquib is a corner. I was addressing needs in the entire D-backfield.
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    If Billings took Talib's gun away from him during the struggle, maybe we should hire him to replace Talib. Seriously, this puts the team in a bad light. At a minimum Talib will probably be suspended from 8 - 16 games by the league and he could face serious jail time. I hope Tanard stays clean and is able to return. The BUCs need to address this position in FA or the draft. How can they not?
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    Yo, Scott - please send a note to Pat Yasinkas clarifying that it was Morris who advised us to draft Talib, not Gruden.
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    Does this mean he'll be in the luxury suite on opening day again at Ray Jay, if the season happens?
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    macabee wrote, "I know it looks bad but he didn't rape a woman; he didn't kill a man; and he didn't kill any pets. There are revered men at the top of this league that have done worse. That's absolutely beautiful. Very well said.
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    While I'm not as quick to condemn as some of you; I've heard enough about this incident that, combined with the on-going list of misdeeds, it's time the organization rids itself of this embarrassment. This is not a family protecting one of its own the way that rational people would. This is woman who calls big brother and big mother instead of the police. This is a mother and son who themselves chose to take matters into their own hands without calling the police. Some of you macho-men on this board talk real tough about defending a family member with violence of your own. But most of you would not react the same way Talib and his mother did by grabbing your guns, confronting the man, then shooting at him as he was fleeing. As Dr. Phil would say, "Aqib, how's that working for you?"
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    Well after thinking about this weapon matter its good and bad. But first of All lets see what really went down. If its more than I'm sorry he is a bust. If the draft was here this is what I would do. at #20 I would go after CB Aaron Williams from texas or CB Jimmy Smith from Colorado. Then in Rd-2 Trade down with NE get DE Jaball Sheard from Pittsburg, and get an extra pick in 3,4 or 5. Then Tampa could get some more players that could fit bucs mold. If that CB is not going to be back, But I'm not the one who will pulled the triggers, But that is just letting someone else sees what the fans says. GO Bucs
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    Hey guys, don't think that Jimmy Smith will be the pick to replace Talib. He is just as bad or worst than Talib. He already had legal altercations with the law and was positive on a drug test. He is actually in the same boat as Talib was in his draft, talented, but extremely high risk.
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    I think we might of lost Aqib Talib because look what happen to plax he shot himself on accident and only hurt himself and went to prison or jail or what ever for a while and I think what Aqib Talib did was worst and considering his past i dont think people will give him or another chance so I think he might be done as Buc at least.....this is some doo doo, i just got his jersey too. Raheem and Mark do whats best for the organization!
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    if g047117 is correct, makes me wonder why his sister didn't call the police.
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    Don't get too overwrought with this legal action. There's a saying "A grand jury will indict a ham sandwich"! Nothing is going to happen soon. The lawyers will take it from here and this will take the better part of a year to resolve. Until then, Talib is an innocent man. I know it looks bad but he didn't rape a woman; he didn't kill a man; and he didn't kill any pets. There are revered men at the top of this league that have done worse. Believe it or not, there is a silver lining here - It didn't happen during a playoff run; it happened prior to the draft; prior to free agency and during a lockout. THe Bucs are in a position to make this transparent with little or no impact. They may have to adjust their draft board after the 1st round; they have 4 or 5 excellent alternatives in free agency; 2 or 3 much improved CBs on the roster and enough draft picks and salary cap room to adjust quite well. They should put Talib on the reserve/suspended list until this is resolved and who knows as Talib walks off the field maybe T-Jack walks on. Talib is only 25 and has trade value. If I had to bet, this gets pleaded into a couple of lesser charges because he has a strong self-defense case. So let's not fret too much, time has a way of wearing rough stones smooth.
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    Who knows all the details yet? This guy might be a huge athlete or man that was threatinng Talib also,if he was a little guy would Talib still have pulled a gun to potect his sister? .......what a mess!!!
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    What an idiot! He will get off with this charge and probably plea down, but I believe his career with the Bucs is over. When the owners/players resolve their issues and the Commissioner suspends Talib because he has already had a plea down on another issure and also was suspended for a game, I believe he might be thru for 2011. At that time time we should consider trading him. We can get a 2nd rd or a 3rd for him. By the way Coach Morris pushed for Talib to be drafted when Gruden and Allen were here. I like coach Morris, but it is time to take a stand with thug's. Most never learn their lessons until they are caught and can't get out of it.
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    Waaaa, this is huge ... Don't want to judge him, I wasn't there, and anytime a member of your family is involved in something like that, it's hard to stay cool. But it doesn"t sound good for him, and his track record speak volume ... As Pinkstob say, sometimes I just feel cursed as a Bucs fan ... STOP SHOOTING YOUR (OUR) OWN FEET !!!
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    Well, I guess I'll stop holding my judgement. The investigation isn't over, but when they isssue an arrest warrant, they have enough evidence to suggest the crime has been committed. It sounds like the sceond degree felony variety, which isn't good for Talib.
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    Unbelievable... the NFL has so many dirt bags playing they might as well offer a work release program. The caliber of player these days has significantly declined in terms of intergrity and moralilty. It honestly makes me less interested in the upcoming season knowing these kinds of people make so much money. If Aqib is determined to be at fault or culpable in any way, he should be kicked out of the league and thrown in jail. Him and Plaxico can play catch together during yard time.
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    Well, that's that I guess. I knew as soon as this story came out that this was serious. It just felt different than the last issues he was involved with. It doesn't seem like this is going to blow over, that's for sure. I don't know about you guys, but sometimes I just feel cursed as a Bucs fan. If it's not one thing it's another.
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    Everyone can stop with the reserve judgment talk now. A warrant for his arrest on Assault with a deadly weapon has been issued. They have had 8 days to investigate which suggests that they believe he is guilty. Plaxico got a few years for discharging a firearm in public and only harming himself. Assault with a deadly weapon is a significantly more serious offense. I can't imagine minimum sentencing is to lenient in Texas either. The nation’s prisons are filled with individuals who had a legitimate reason to commit the crime they did. A jury will not care whether he was justified or not. If prosecuted and found guilty this guys career is over as a BUC.
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    looks like a warrant has been issued for his arrest. He is supposedly turning himself in, but looks like he is being charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, a second degree felony. Per Charles Barkley: He's a knucklehead.
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    For the people who are clamoring for Asomugha you have to realize that he will be 30 years old when the season starts, whereas Talib will only be 25. Talib hasn't even reached his peak whereas Asomugha is on the downside of his career. I agree about the character issues but we'd only have him at a Pro Bowl level for maybe two more years. We don't need a quick fix, we need a long term solution. Also remember that Dominik & Morris are playing the hand that was dealt to them by Allen & Gruden when it comes to Talib and TJax. I would give them the chance to draft "their guy" if necessary before I'd sign Asomugha as a quick fix at an exorbitant price.
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    Downside of his career at 30. Thats what they said about Charles Woodson and he was the MVP of the NFL two yrs ago and still one of the best. I could go on forever naming examples of corners who had great success in their early 30's but why bother. Sign Asomugha now to a four yr contract he will be every bit as good as Talib without the headache
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    I can understand helping your sister in a bad situation, anybody would. The problem is when you cross the line and don't get the authorities involved as soon as possible. Nothing good comes out of taking matters into your own hands when it involves firing a weapon. I'm holding my judgement until the investigation is complete, but either way he once again showed poor judgement.
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    ***UPDATE*** Per the Dallas Observer... According to the report and the sources, at 7:30 p.m. on March 21 Aqib Muttaqi Talib went to his sister's home in the 900 block of Green Pond Drive in Garland (south of Bush Turnpike not far from Spring Creek Elementary and Hawaiian Falls Water Park). Saran, who was arguing with Billings, also called her mother for help. Police were directed to Saran's home via a 911 call by neighbors, who reported a domestic dispute and three shots fired at a black male by a black female. According to the report, police arrived to find Billings standing in front of a nearby residence. While interviewing him, officers discovered Billings was a suspect in two pending, related, family-violence offenses involving Saran and arrested him. When initially questioned, both Saran and Okolo Talib said they knew nothing of an earlier incident at the house. Billings, however, led police to a gun he said belonged to Aqib that Billings had thrown in a neighbor's trash can after escaping his struggle with the player. After finding the weapon and calling forensic investigators to retrieve numerous spent shell casings in the street, officers took a statement from Billings. According to the report, Billings said Aqib produced a handgun and "attempted to strike him in the face." During the ensuing skirmish Talib dropped the gun and Billings picked it up and began runnning, prompting Okolo to produce a gun and fire three shots toward him. Billings told police that Talib then took Okolo's gun, said "I'll shoot him" and fired at least two shots before Billings safely ducked into nearby woods. Neighborhood witnesses corroborated Billings' story. *** So it appears Talib did fire 2 shots. Depending o what happened to his sister in the previous incidents, I still will not condem his actions...yet.
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    Not condem him yet are you serious? It doesn't matter if he beat the living crap out of his sister you still don't shoot a gun into a neighborhood as the guy is running away. What the hell is wrong with some of you people?
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    jongruden. You have a point. Make sure the bullet enters the front side of his body.
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    Release Aqib Talib ASAP! Then turn around and sign Nnamdi Asomugha who is as good off the field as he is on it. Atleast he takes part and cares about his community; real class act guy.
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    I have a little sister... if her BF/Husband was smackin her around Id go to jail for more than a misdy.
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    I had a brother-in-law who slapped my sister......once.
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    He needs Anger management. He definitely has a problem. Trouble seems to find him. This is serious. He would be a really bad loss for us in the secondary. He isn't just an average player. He is key. We don't have anyone on the team who can step in for him, and play at his level.
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    Boy these types of things sure bring out the opinions, but I have to concur with pass.the.blount. The problem with Talib is that he doesn't think about the ramifications of his actions. Apparently he inherited this trait from his mother since her judgment is also questionable. If I read the story correctly, Talib and his mother were not present at the time of the altercation between the sister and boyfriend. The sister called the police and Talib for help. Interesting that Talib and his mother arrived first. Had the police responded more quickly perhaps this situation could have been prevented. So big brother and big mother show up brandishing guns knowing the posse is on the way but still decide to take matters into their own hands. As a crowd gathers, Talib is the one with the most to lose yet he is the one with the least sense. It's easy for many of us to say we would do something similar to protect our family but the sister wasn't being hit when Talib arrived thus the only motivation was revenge. At least the boyfriend had the sense to run away as Talib yells, "Stop or My Mom Will Shoot." Anger is one thing, stupidity is another. While I believe we all need to withhold judgment until all of the facts are out and the legal process runs its course; I also think it's time to consider making plans for Talib's departure. It's only a matter of time.
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    Until he is either charged or not charged I am reserving judgment. With that being said there is definitely a theme here; that being Aqib's anger issues. While I can commend him for wanting to protect his family from that scumbag Billings, there is never a need to be firing off a weapon. I love AT when he is on the field, I just don't think he will be with the buccaneers much longer if this continues.
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    extremely disappointing... drafting a corner in the first round cannot be ruled out despite our need for a DE... Talib obviously has not learned what, hopefully now as Mike Vick has, which is who you surround yourself with speaks volumes about your character. To be in a situation to put yourself in, such as this, is inexcusable. Ras-I Dowling and Brandon Harris are good options...
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    Some day Talib would be up for a big contract,let's face it he's a thug,always will be, and he might be damaged goods with the hip. This is the perfect time to get Asomugha. The Bucs have the cap space, and eventually you have to pay top dollar for a shut down corner, giving that money to Talib would be a mistake. Asomuga as for as I know, is a good citizen off the field as well.
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    On another note, this is what not having OTAs due to a lockout does to teams. If there was no lockout, there would be OTAs right now. Not saying it''s an excuse, but I mean I guess most analysts were right: More players will get into trouble not being in OTAs this Spring.
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    Honestly, from what I got out of this story, Talib was armed and the guy his sister was fighting with wasn't. He wrestled the gun from Talib and took it and ran away. Talib uses his mothers firearm and starts shooting at him? He needs to learn to keep his cool. He's dumb as hell. I think the Bucs should trade him and get whatever they can, kind of like what the Steelers did with Santonio Holmes. He's worthless since he wont be able to stay on the field and the thing is, after being suspended last year for violating the personal conduct policy, expect him to face a longer suspension of a minimum of ATLEAST 4 games, maybe 5. Heck, he might be facing jail time if he didn't have it registered who knows. I don't care how talented he is. He claimed last off season that he matured and was staying out of trouble. Apparently not. You have to think with you're head. Call the police if things start getting physical, don't take dangerous matters into your own hands, unless he's firing a weapon back at you, but from what I've read, this guy wasn't.
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    What a PERP.....now we have to draft a corner and a mother
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    biggiejerseys, read the Dallas Morning News article, about the sister's boyfriend. He didn't hit her nor was he beating her up in this particular incident. The guy is no saint and was abusive to her in the past and wouldn't go away. How come this was a week ago and we are just finding out about it? Talib was smart to get a lawyer and to say nothing to the police, but he does have previous experiences in breaking the law. I think he will get away with this, but I believe we need to trade him as soon as we can. Something else will occur with this guy again. The Bucs should take a stand here. He has had enough breaks. Now we are at the gun shooting stage with Talib.
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    Horse, Well, I didn't read the article to good myself because I now understand why the Bucs couldn't release any information on this incident.
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    If he's charged I could easily see us taking Brandon Harris, Jimmy Smith or Aaron Williams in the first round this year if a top-20 DE is not available to us. Between Aqib Talib, Dexter Jackson, Gaines Adams, Arron Sears, Sabby Piscitelli and Tanard Jackson, Gruden sure did handicap the Bucs in the 2007 & 2008 drafts. Not hating...but his drafting was subpar at best. Man what a waste!
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    FLBoyinDallas, I am right there with you. No matter what happens at this point Talib future is on thin ice. Every year since he has been a Buc he has had some kind of anger issure that he can't control and every incident appears to be getting worse. I am wondering in college how much was covered up by the football program? He's a good player, but if he can't behave then lets trade him (once the owner/player issue is resolved) to a team that is willing to deal with his stuff.
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    What's all the fuss about? The Boyz in da Hood are always hard: Billings tried talking that trash, Talib pulled his card.
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    Let's just say if some SOB was beating my sister, I'd knock his *censored* out. I wouldn't fire a gun or anything like that but I'd definitely want to kick his mfing *censored*.
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    biggiejerseys, read the Dallas Morning News article, about the sister's boyfriend. He didn't hit her nor was he beating her up in this particular incident. The guy is no saint and was abusive to her in the past and wouldn't go away. How come this was a week ago and we are just finding out about it? Talib was smart to get a lawyer and to say nothing to the police, but he does has previous experiences with breaking the law. I think he will get away with this, but I believe we need to trade him as soon as we can. Something else will occur with this guy again and again. The Bucs should take a stand here. He has had enough breaks. Now we are at the gun shooting stage with Talib.
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    Can't help but wonder why your sister would be with a guy who beats her?
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    Bucmebaby. That is the question, isn't it! I suggest you read up on spouse abuse since you don't seem to have a clue.
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    Sure he's a high character guy....let's face it, all high character guys pack heat and use violence to solve all their problems. First thing I do if someone is beating up my sister is pistol whip them and then fire shots at them as they are running away because 'that takes care of that problem!' ....bam! 'WINNING!'
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    It appears that everyone is missing the fact that this guy was BEATING the mans sister. Does that mean anything?
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    My sister's boyfriend beat her to death over several days last year. I, as well as her two other brothers, wish we had been there with our guns. And we all shoot straight!
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    "Clean House". Talib, Jackson, Taser King, and throw Feine in for good measure. It should be fun to watch. Morris and Dominik know it works and have had success doing it. The Bucs have given them the opportunity and they flunked. Release them. Go Bucs!!!!! Easier to be replaced than they think.
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    chuckbville, that is the funniest thing I have ever heard
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    Maybe that's the last time that boyfriend beats on the sister of a football player with a bad temper. Shame it had to come to this though.
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    "The Law" hasn't seemed to have influenced the brother in law's behavior in the correct way. "The Law" doesn't really protect anyone, or prevent bad things from happeing, it just deals with the aftermath. "The Law" doesn't make the victims whole, or bring them back to life. I don't know the real story here, but certainly can imagine circumstances in which I might want to act in a manner that he is alledged to have acted. Sometimes you just have to do what your opponent has respect for... I don't think calling the poooolice would have done anything to deter the brother in law from doing the same thing again. What is most upsetting is that this particular situation is ongoing will likely re-occur and if it does, Talib will likely hunt this guy down for a permanent resolution. Talib will probably get off easy for this one in the short term, but the chances that he'll be a Buc for 10 more years are in the crapper.
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    Hell we need a corner, a safty and a small arms instructor.
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    As I always try to do when breaking news comes out I'm going to reserve my judgement until all the details come out and the investigation is over. Having a sister myself I'd be hard pressed not to want to shoot a SOB that beat my sister as well. Hopefully for his sake he comes out of this clear but I'm not gonna shout from a soapbox until I know all the details.
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    I CAN’T BELIEVE the posts I'm reading. You want a HIGH CHARACTER GUY? Who has more character than the man that beats the crap out of a scum bag who commits violence against his family—HIS SISTER—and has 2 prior arrests for the same horrible act? Are you all saying that a grown man hitting a woman doesn't deserve an *censored* whooping? This was the 3rd time. This isn't Tanard smoking grass, or a heated practice altercation. This is defending your family. PLEASE! Talib is supposed to stand by and value his football career over his sister's wellbeing? That's crap. Pinkstob, maybe his mom has tons of character and was safeguarding her family. Good mothers can shoot guns too. The police were called 2 previous times before, and now here is the 3rd time. They don’t seem to be solving the problem. I hope Macabee is right and a good lawyer can make a solid defense case-- that a good jury will understand, and agree, that a man should be able to protect his family from harm.
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    Mjmoody- "Good mothers can shoot guns too." That statement might be the dumbest thing I have ever from from another human being. I ask some of you guys who defend his actions of he and his mother firing a weapon into the neighborhood. What if he had hit your son or daughter with that stray bullet? Whats that you say now you think it was a bad idea, congrats on coming back to reality.
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    Pretty much everything that has been said about Talib is true. This is a bad man or at least a man with a very bad problem. But he is a bad man with lots of money. A New York lawyer will easily make this a classic case of self defense - a man defending his family against a domestic abuser. Since blood runs thicker than water, you could guess how this story will be told. If the boyfriend has a criminal background and it sounds like he does since he was arrested on unrelated charges, we may have not seen the last of Talib. Personally, I think the Bucs should move on, but the man is a virtual interception machine.
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    You guys are incredible. Talib hasn't been charged with anything, and he may or may not have fired shots. It appears he did 'pistol whip' dude but we don't know the circumstances. Based on the end of the article, it seems the other guy was ACTUALLY doing something pretty harsh since HE was arrested for domestic assault when the police caught up to him. It's seems to me this guy must have been hurting Talib's sister (not the 1st time either) and Talib was there to save his sister from harm. Dude threw Talib's gun in the trash...How was Talib shooting wthou a weapon? Mom was busy shooting from her gun so...It looks like Talib caught the guy, beat him up, guy took Talib's gun, mom stepped in started shooting, dude ran, called the police from nearby, and HE GOT ARRESTED. Not Talib, or his mother. I'm not a thug, or gangster. But you if you try and hurt my sister, or any other family member, it's gonna be a problem. How about we wait and see IF he is charged, and if so with what. You over-reactors are going to look pretty silly if this is justified as defense of a family member. Innocent until proven guilty, ring a bell?
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    most common sense thing I've read all day
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    g047117, When a gun is fired the bullet is not selective. Any bystander can beome the victum. Why was Talib packing in the first place? I hate hand guns, they have one purpose and serve no other? To Kill. Surely many instances can be worked out with out this macho crap. Well his Mom and him are going down for assault unless someone is going to take all the blame. Here's the good news for Talib? He has plenty of money to hire a good lawyer and make this go away because there's no video anywhere of the actual event. It's all disgusting! Character does count and this guy has none. No of this should have happened the way it did. He made poor decisions which seems to be what he does.
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    No wonder where he gets this from, I understand that messing with family is serious but his mom getting involved with a GUN!?! Come on, man!!! Its really hard to blame him when it is unclear if he even made the shots, but why pistol whip somebody with careers on the line?? Time to get M Lewis up to speed, gonna be a long year for defense......
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    Unreal.... First Tanard, now this clown.... Raheem and Dominick need to fix this... Can't invest in draft picks and time and have these guy behave like idiots... Mike Williams and Blount need to keep their noses clean....
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    He just flushed tens of millions of future dollars down the drain. He is a top 5 cb in terms of talent; bottom 5 in terms of common sense.
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    This is what got Sonny Corleone Killed.:)
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    JohnGruden, please do not hold Coach Morris accountable for the off season off field actions of a player. Talib is an adult with his own decision making skills. Coaches are not babysitters and should not be blamed for every problems in a players life. If you you want blame your idol (namesake) he is the one that drafted the loser.
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    What bothers me the most about this incident is that his mother fired shots at this guy right before he did. I don't know about you guys, but there's no one whose opinion and sense of judgement I care about more than my parents. What does Aqib care about what Morris, Dominik, the fans or even the law thinks compared to what his mother thinks of him? I can't imagine she thinks too poorly of him for shooting at someone when she just did the same thing. I don't think there is any reaching Aqib, at least not from us. If he turns his life around it's going to have to come from the influence of God, his family or both. It's clear to me now it's not going to come from the law or anywhere else.
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    Bucs better draft a CB early and go after Asomugha!
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    I am interested to see what Morris does with this news, he has yet to hold anyone accountable for their actions and I seriously doubt that even after this it will be any different. Pacman should come here Tampa is the best place for him.
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    Nothing can be done...no CBA. The exception is if there is a new CBA owners I'm sure will want a clause allowing them retro active punishment.
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    well ronde,biggers, and lewis..will have to continue from last season....
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    Just un excusable. I am tired of things like this as well. More reason now to target Asom in fa and jimmy smith in the draft. Talib can not be trusted period. he needs to grow up.
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    More than likely Talib will be charged with some kind of assault. Why he thought he had to draw a weapon (even have it on him shows some kind of intent) and assist in using another gun to fire at him along with his sister means big problems for him. Thank God both of them were poor shooters. Was that really worth attempting to take someone's life? Regardless, he will be suspended if charges are filed until this is resolved. It looks like we might have to change our whole way of thinking pertaining to the draft. We might need a CB in the first 3 rounds. Ugh! Talib; you're an idiot! Your chances are runing out. We need character people on this team; not a thug like Talib. He clearly has proven that he is a thug.
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    All NFL players should be profesional, but why does it have to be the Bucs studs. Talib and T jax are big blows for Tampa, We at least have hope for Tjax, but this looks bad for Talib.
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    If he is guilty of all of this then he's done, but I can understand He's a family man first.Its a tough call on his part. He put his family first this time and now it may cost him big
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    Isnt this more reason then ever for the Bucs to consider going after Nmandi from Oakland? A legit shutdown corner who is closer in personality to D. Brooks than Talib.
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    OK....for all the fans who don't think character matters....... I'm sure the problem is he's just not being paid enough to buy his prozac...
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    Wooooow, Is it really that hard to stay out of trouble? Honestly....wow
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    Tired of this crap!! T. Jackson and now Talib! Know wonder the Bucs are trying to draft more quality people! I agree with Bucmebaby about supporting people that make so much money and keep getting involved with the law. Damn ASSES!
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    I was hoping Talib would settle down and focus on his career, but I guess not. He's in some trouble if he's found guilty of firing a gun or even worse if he fired a gun at someone. Being that this isn't his first offense, there may not be a slap on the wrist. If he is involved in this incident, CB just became a priority in the draft/free agency. Signing Asomugha doesn't sound like a bad idea now.
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    Great. Let's give away some of next years picks and have 2 #1's this year, take a CB with one and DE with the other. Jimmy Smith here we come.
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    This is another nail for me. I'm starting to wonder what I'm doing supporting all these people, not just Aqib. The failure to secure an agreement between the owners and players already has me feeling disgusted. I'm real close to shutting down this sphere of my life.
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    bye bucmebaby! Try baseball!
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    Awww, man. Between T Jax and Aqib, we have two of the best players that are too dumb to stay on the field in the NFL. Now do we need a CB?
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