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January 5, 2012 @ 7:08 pm
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Where Did It All Go Wrong? A List Of Suspects

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Pewter Report columnist and former Bucs DE Chidi Ahanotu writes that although Raheem Morris was fired there are still suspects at large for the crimes that were committed in Tampa Bay's 2011 season, which ended with a disappointing 4-12 record.

As a nine-year former member of the Tampa Bay defense and former franchise player who bleeds pewter and is passionate about the Buccaneers legacy, I feel the results of the 2011 NFL season has set Bucs football back 20 years. The exact level of the atrocious play I do not believe has set in yet for the men who run the Buccaneer organization.

I wonder if the Tampa Bay players realize exactly how bad they in fact are. To set a new franchise record for most points allowed (518) than any other team in franchise history is a monumental statement on just how far this once-proud organization as fallen.

Being drafted by the Buccaneers in the early 1990’s, I witnessed first hand the absolute worst brand of football I have ever seen in my 12 years in the NFL.

Players were just not that good.

The coaching was terrible.

The coaches and the players frankly were not that football intelligent.

The number one culprit for the old “Yuccaneers” was mental mistakes.

The amount of mental mistakes committed by the so-called “stars” of the team was absolutely astounding to me.

The number two culprit for the “Yuccaneers” was a caveman mentality and approach to football. While other teams were practicing and preparing the smart way, the old Bucs were pounding on their chests, using outdated football techniques on the field, in the training room, in the meeting rooms, and in the front office.

Add up all that horrendous football I witnessed in the early 90’s and I try to come to grips with the fact that this 2011 Tampa Bay team is way worse than all of those bad teams. We certainly didn’t lose 10 games in a row in the 1990’s. 


It is simply mind-blowing and mind numbing to say the least. If I could pinpoint exactly where it all went wrong for these 2011 Bucs, the answer I suspect is very similar to the ailments of those horrible Tampa Bay teams I played for in the early 90’s. 

But the main element that was sorely lacking on those teams in the “Yuccaneers” days was an entire team full of true leaders. Quite honestly, most players were a bunch of clowns creating the football follies back then. True gladiators and great warriors were missing at many positions on those teams.

When our Bucs turned things around in the mid 90’s on, we had a team that was full of true leaders who were accountable to each other, our mission, and our legacy. Instead in the early 90’s, most players were a bunch of “playas” that wanted to party it up, brag that they were NFL players, and more concerned with collecting their paycheck so they could buy big expensive cars, mansions, and boats.

I fear that we are now back to those “Yuccaneers” days once again.

The mere fact that this 2011 team lost 10 straight games in a row, with each loss even more horrendous than the previous, and at or near the top of the NFL in penalties and turnovers is a strong indication that we have the usual suspects running the helm once again in Buc land. 

Some of the suspects were fired Monday. But “Black Monday” did not send all the suspects packing. There are still players and some in the front office staff that were retained who are responsible for this recent demise. Raheem Morris and his coaching staff may have taken the fall, but the rest of culprits are still looming around One Buc Place.

Now I was all for keeping Morris a few weeks ago and giving him another season to right this ship. Although, the losses were enormous and the team’s play was porous seeping with incompetence and embarrassment; I believed for the sake of consistency and foundation that Morris should be retained. 

But now that he has been fired at this juncture, a complete overhaul must take place. The general manager, the quarterback, the linebackers, the defensive backs and the wide receivers – all must go. These are the suspects who are still lurking around One Buc Place. And if this once-proud franchise is to be transformed from a circus to a return to days of glory, then all of the suspects must leave the building.

In three years during his tenure as general manager of the Bucs, Dominik has not produced and ultimately the losing 2009 and 2011 teams are his doing. Dominik’s 2010 pewter product was a success to a degree, but taking his three years at the helm in totality the end result has been ineptness.

Dominik, having never had a G.M. position prior to this stint, is very similar to Morris’ predicament whereas he is unproven and inexperienced. Some say that he is simply over his head in this job. While Dominik’s young players he assembled through the draft are still in the early stages of their development and many of the players he acquired may have some promise, Dominik is a suspect and must go.

In the three years during his tenure as quarterback of the Bucs, Josh Freeman has not produced and ultimately the team goes as far as Freeman goes. Freeman’s 2010 success showed flash of what this talent is capable of.

Although Freeman has thrown more touchdowns (51) than interceptions (46) in his three-year NFL career, his great season in 2010 in which he threw 25 touchdowns and six interceptions has skewed his career, which features two seasons in which he has thrown more interceptions than TDs, including 2011 where he tossed just 16 scoring strikes and a career-high 22 interceptions.

But taking his three years in totality, the end sum is miserable failure. Quarterbacks are judged by wins and losses and Freeman’s three-year total is 17-23.

It is a new era of the NFL where the quarterback play is setting NFL records in passing, with the likes of New Orleans’ Drew Brees, New England’s Tom Brady, Green Bay’s Aaron Rodgers, and Detroit’s Matthew Stafford. Even young star quarterbacks are entering the league exploding onto the scene and setting records. A look at the great success of rookies like Carolina’s Cam Newton and Cincinnati’s Andy Dalton will tell you all you need to know about how far the quarterback position has come.

Even a look at backup quarterbacks like Green Bay’s Matt Flynn and Houston’s T.J. Yates. They reveal the amount of talent and success there is to be had at the quarterback position. Yates has helped lead his Texans team to its first playoff berth. Flynn set a franchise touchdown record for Green Bay against Detroit by throwing six total touchdowns in that game. A franchise that has seen the likes of great quarterbacks like Bart Starr, Brett Favre, and Aaron Rodgers saw a single-game touchdown throwing record attained by back up Matt Flynn.

The Bucs, having won the fifth pick of the 2012 NFL Draft, may have a slight chance to select a quarterback like Heisman Trophy winner Robert Griffin III. Freemen is a suspect and must go. 

The rest of the members of this suspect list are the linebacking corps, the wide receiving squad, and the defensive backs unit. The group of them may have produced the absolute worst seasons of any units ever in the history of the Buccaneers franchise. They must all go except for Mason Foster, as he is a rookie and played like a man for the most part.

As the coming days unfold, new hope and anticipation of a revamped overhaul of our Buccaneers lays in waiting. We can all but hope that the Glazers can see these glaring needs.

I once asked a man why he always plays the Lotto every day and he answered to me it was simply because of hope. Sometimes a simple act of doing something in which one can have hope for a greater outcome, is all worth it in the end.

Buccaneer Nation may be getting decimated with the season’s end overhaul taking place, but at the very least now we can all have hope once again. Yet some suspects remain at large.

Last modified on Thursday, 05 January 2012 19:24
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    pewter report... time to end the chidi ahanato experiment. its failed. clearly he has it in for josh freeman after the last 'piece' i read. I am by far more qualified, as are several commentaries here, to write a quest column. hard to take pewter report seriously when I read this crap.
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    @ niko521... I guess they took your advice... I dont see Chidi's name in the contact us section??? Does that mean anything?
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    Chidi no one is saying that you didn't play good, hell even great from the left end side. But what we are saying is you are bashing our QB after two and a half years of playing time. Like I said in my last post that was deleted, if we cut everyone after two and a half years of play, then brett favre, peyton manning, and some of the greats including yourself would never have been on a team. You can't really say he lead us to two losing season when his rookie season he didn't play but 8 weeks and we had already lost every game. You can say that he had a great season last year and a bad season this year, that is a legit argument. To say he needs to be cut is going way to far because he has shown that he can play in this league. Chidi no one is doubting that you did wreak havoc for our Dline, we are however saying that you can not judge a QB after 2 and a half years of play. You just can't.
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    Not ready to give up on a number of talented players when our rookies had 2 week inaugural offseason and nobody drafted post-gruden has played for a real nfl coaching staff. Give them an offseason, coach them up, and see how they fare before cutting loose young players you invested high draft picks in.
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    Pick6 I dont the new coach will come in and get rid of the rookies...u cant just come in and gut the entire team but there are guys that didnt perform as well as we thought.The linebackers are the weakess part of our defense..Foster most likely will be a outside linebacker next season.Although Bower was a second round pick he is still consider a first rounder and we have two first rounds DE's.I dont think any coach will come in and change that.
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    Chidi you are a freaking joke! Aside from your 97' season your time here was also largely a joke. I get that you have sour grapes for the first time the organization let you go, but the way you completely blasted the organization the way you did before retiring showed a complete lack of class. Your comments in this article are laughable at best. I get that your feelings were hurt because by your account Freeman didn't show you the respect you felt you deserved. That is no excuse to go out and blast a 23 year old kid and say that he needs to go based on 2 1/2 seasons were of playing time, if that had been the case you would have been out on your *censored* after that amount of time. Most players are barely out of college by the time they are 23 and even fewer have 3 years worth of accrued time on an NFL team by the time they are 23. Unless you have some type of mystical crystal ball that can show the future, you have no idea where this kids career will go. Moving on to Dominik, while his results have also been mixed, I wouldn't say he was completely inexperienced when he took over, last I checked he grew up in this organization spending the better part of the past 2 decades with this team, first under Rich McKay and also under Bruce Allen. Yes he does in large have to improve, and add some vets that will help this team, to say his time here was a complete waste is ridiculous. I do agree with you that save Mason Foster and at times Dakota Watson, the LB's do need to go, as they were easily the worst group on the team, The WR's had a few bright spots as well, Williams I believe has talent despite a soph. slump, also Des Briscoe and Parker were bright spots, the rest can go as far as I'm concerned. K2 was also a huge liability despite putting up decent numbers. DB's need a lot of help as well. Thankfully us Buc fans have much to look forward to with the hiring of a new chief and all new assistants to coach up and help these young Bucs progress. Go Bucs!
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    So....last years Freeman was just an illusion and now he suddenly sucks. Give me a friggin' break!! I don't give a rats *censored* that he's former 'franchise Buc'. That doesn't mean he knows anything about evaluating talent. Freeman will be fine with the right coaching. VERY VERY VERY few former players or coaches are even suggesting that Freeman may not make it in this league. As a matter of fact, I can count them on 1 finger....my middle one!!
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    Waste of time explaining on here. Defenses know how to attack freeman now. We saw very little man defense because teams don't think freeman can pick apart a zone. You play zone on manning, Brady, Brees and they will tear you apart all day. Freeman doesn't know how to attack a quarters defense, so a lot of teams thru that at him as well. Teams flooded the middle because he doesn't see sideline patterns as well. Nfl had a year of good tape on freeman and shut him down all this year. Believe me, many QBs have had one good year and never matched it again.
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    It's ridiculous when some of you try to use the comparison of Favre or manning to freeman and his struggles. I wouldn't have nearly the same issues with freeman if he was slinging the ball down the field for 300+ yards a game all while throwing 20+ interceptions, because that would show that he has the anticipation and vision to be a true gunslinger one day after he learns the NFL game better. But he doesn't look anything like those QBs did when they were younger. He's not consistently hitting guys on 20 yard seem routes or 15 yard sideline passes. Those guys put the ball down the field and learned by their mistakes and when to be patient. They made their reads, threw in rhythm, and let it fly. Because of their youth and inexperience they would sometimes be wrong with their read or forcing something they shouldn't, but a great QB needs to have the feeling of invinsibily and that they can put a ball in any space. That's not freeman. He's never sure of his read, very hesitant with the ball, and you can even see it in the velocity of his throws. The last thing he feels comfortable doing is if he were told you need to read your cues while taking a 5 step drop and then release the ball on that 5th step to the correct read. He can't do it on a consistent basis yet. He finishes his drop and still isn't sure where to go with the ball, so he holds on to it a little longer. In the meantime the windows are closing and the dine is getting closer. Freeman has a long way to go to be an effective starter in this league.
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    Well its easy for me to compare them because apparently you dont remember how bad Farve and Eli was in their first years.Im from Fla. but live in Jersey and I remember how bad Eli was..all the fans wanted him out.He was throwing interceptions like crazy and he had talent around him.None of our receivers are getting open..Mike William our so called #1 receiver cant even beat man coverage and the rest of our receivers are 3rd stringers.I've been pissed with Freeman myself but i'm not going to give up on him until he gets better talent around him and better play calling.
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    Chidi, I love your articles. You sure do know how to still the pot. And folks, get off the idea of attacking our man personally. He's a Buc great and really shouldn't feel the need to defend his legacy to us, the Buc faithful. Chidi, I disagree with you on Freeman, but that's ok. You may be right. The deal with Dominic is that he's not going anywhere because he's agreed to work under the ridiculous constraints of the Glazier's finances and that's very difficult to find in a GM. So, we can forget about getting rid of him. Dominic carries all of the operational water for the Glaziers. Anyway, please don't let some of these clowns get to you. Most of us very much appreciate your contributions to Pewter Report and are huge fans of you as a player. I know that i am.
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    Chidi...the comparison of T.J. Yates/Dalton or Flynn to Freeman fails as all three are on very good teams. Hell, Flynn is on probably the 2nd best offense in the league next to the Saints. I admit to losing some faith in Freeman; however, I believe that comes with being a Buc fan since 76'. Even when we were up by 20+ points in the SB, I couldn't block out that somehow we would let the Raiders make the largest comeback in SB history. Anyway, I'll take Freeman for another year. If we don't see improvement, then trade him. Side note; we should have traded Talib after the league didn't suspend him at the beginning of the year. Not too concerned with what we would've received in compensation as we will get nothing in return when he's in jail come April. (trade with clause that the compensation would go up if he stays out of trouble and performance escalators) I'm a firm believer that he's overrated...it's not saying much when you're labeled as the best defender on the worst defense in the NFL. Trade Blount too...the only thing he is remotely decent at is breaking tackles in the second level. Compensation? A 4th and a pack of Bazooka bubble gum.
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    Chidi I cant agree and disagree with you right now becauce every good QB develope differently.Remember Eli Manning..it took him a while to come around but he did.Remember how bad Favre was?I think a new coaching staff and a better scheme will help him.Receivers that cant get open and a bunch of crossing pattern dont help anyone.
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    Wow, you guys love you some Freeman. I suggest Freeman be cut and all hell breaks loose. It's everybody else's fault but Freeman's right? If we surround freeman with a pro bowl caliber filled offense then he will be great?....uh duh. C'mon man. Let me see if I can tell you Freeman lovers a bit about the NFL quarterback position. Great quarterbacks make average talent around them look great! Oh, but he's only 23 and still learning and once we surround him hall of fame coaching staff then he'd be great? How about getting a hall of fame quarterback and then he'd be great. Oh let me just shut up. I was just a phony franchise player that the horrible Rich McKay made a big mistake on. I surely didn't do a damn thing to be named the Franchise Player cause look I didn't average 10 sacks every year I played. Uh, if anyone thinks playing dline is ONLY about getting sacks then you are sadly mistaken. Put on the tape and watch me destroy the run and consistently get pressures and hurries and cause interceptions and incomplete passes. Put on the tape and watch me destroy blocks and help my teammates around me make tackles for a loss. Put on the tape and watch me run legendary pass rush games with Sapp to help Sapp get a lot of those sacks he got. Sapp was the only reason our Dline was one of the best in history and beat double and triple teams all the time to get all his quarterback sacks all by himself? Um, yeah. If you believe that then you have been drinking all the kool aid the media been serving you. Sapp is my brother and one of the greatest the NFL has ever seen. But we didn't become the most feared dline for 5 years because of one guy. All this hate towards me given all the 9 years and hard work and love for the Buc franchise is amazing. I guess if I was Josh Freeman and led the team to two losing records and threw more interceptions than touchdowns in both of those seasons then I'd get nuthin but love. Yep, you love you some Free. Don't nobody say nuthin bad about young Josh. I hope the best for Josh Freeman and he better get on his knees and pray that the new HC don't bring in a beast of a quarterback to challenge Free for his position instead of just being handed the position from day one. I surely wasn't ever handed my position. I had to fight for it and earned it every year. 1st round draft picks like Eric Curry, Regan Upshaw, Marcus Jones were all brought in while I was a Buc. I was never up rooted and started since day one as a rookie. 5th All time sack leader in the history of the Buc Franchise. Show me another Buc left end that ever put up those numbers....Don't test me. I'm putting the microphone down. Song is over.
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    Chidi, I hear everything you are saying. I was wondering myself how the hell does Dominik still have a job. Free is not and should not be untouchable he has not earned it and if the new coach likes RGIII and has a chance to draft him then he should. It is easy to see that this season went awry partly due to Freeman's play. So what you are saying is not that far-fetched; the new coach is going to look at the tape and grade all these players and decide who he can and can't win with anyway.
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    Wow thats even more tacky Chidi Ahanotu. Man you are realy going Brett Farve on my *censored* and destroying all the good memories I do have of you as a Buc. You need to let this go man. Cause this dont sound good at all.
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    AC Service I agree with you on this one.
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    chidi, calm down. Most of us know what you did on the team, but be careful here because it is starting to sound more like a defensive position due to a huge ego, insecurity, and no one respects me thing. Your article was good and just stick to that part of it.
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    Chidi, hope you didn't take my McKay rant for signing you long term after he tagged you as a negative towards you. I had no problem with you getting the tag or a long term contract. It was that McKay signed you after the deadline to sign Franchised players to long term contracts. He should have signed you before the deadline and when it didn't happen he should have waited to sign you long term without the penalties during the next window. That way the Franchise Tag would have been available if needed during those 6yrs of your contract. Then he cut you, which NEVER should've happened as you were too good and because of the tag penalties. You and Spires are the only LE's that ever consistently stopped the run and pressured the QB in the Tampa Two. Also, Culpepper was the only NT that consitently put up good sack numbers. Too bad we never had you, Sapp, Culpepper, & Rice playing together on our front four because that would've been an awesome pass rush!
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    Get a grip Chidi. It was a bad year but put the razor blades down and back away from the sink........Get rid of Freeman and start completely over???? When you wrote this article was it, say....New Year's morning about 12:30 after about half a bottle of 'the captain'? Yeah...good times but maybe save the articles till you can think a little more clearly.
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    Well, just who forgot to close the door to the Pewter Report outhouse? Isn't it funny that when the mighty Bucs were 10-6 and Josh Freeman had a 25-6 TD to interception ratio the all-knowing BF47 was nowhere to be found. So, like Freddy Krueger, he has returned from the bowels of the football underworld to thump his chest in delight. Perhaps it was when I jokingly made a comment last week that BF47 might have been right after all it resurrected our Darling of Despair. Who better to return just in time to tell all of us "casual fans" how he predicted (and hoped for) Raheem's failure. Yet in his latest "article" he points out that it wasn't Morris' fault and displays Josh Freeman to represent his name. Go figure. In any event, welcome back BF47.
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    Rememberthe movie Chicken Little..remember how he kept telling eveyone that the sky was falling but no one would believe the little guy.Remember when Chidi wrote an article saying that the sky wasnt falling but the Bucs fans said yes it is.
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    Freeman gets a one year look. Ronde and Talib won't be back. WRs? Mike Williams a bust, Benn is ok, who else we got? Need new kick returner. Left offensive tackle. New center, Linebackers. A speedy RB, Healthy D line. Love, Price, MCcoy the DEs....need linebackers....and Dom should go. He kept picking already wounded guys and kept going over the landfill trying to find diamonds instead of going directly to the diamond mines.....Out with Dom. Glazers should hire a football savvy consultant to help them with coaching picks. To pick a coach who maybe comfortable with the Bucs is exactly the wrong approach. i.e. Sherman. Bad record and too old,,,,,troubhle is, there aren't many decent coaches to choose from. I like Chud the best.....I guess.
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    One more pink slip please,Ahanotu must go.His opions
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    Man... Chidi's got it tough on here. At least when Scott or Mark write something people disagree with, bloggers can't go back into their history and rip them apart. This is just Chidi's opinion. No one on here can say indefinitely that he will be wrong or right with these opinions. Many of you want to have a franchise QB so badly that you look past everything Freeman does. Sorry, but he is not a mechanically efficient quarterback. Can he turn that around? I think he probably still could with the right coaching and hard work, but there is a good chance that he is always going to have bad footwork, accuracy issues, and slow to read defenses. If that's the case and we stick with him the next 2 years then we will not be a very good football team. So get off Chidi's back for saying what he believes and he probably has a better chance of being right than wrong with his Freeman opinion.
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    This article is written on emotion, nothing more. first off, freeman is not going anywhere. hes 23 and has a ton of talent. eli manning looked terrible for a while and even threw 25 ints in a season. freeman is not newton, rodgers, or stafford. the bucs just got done firing the entire coaching staff. why? because the coaches did not know what they were doing and it affected how the players played. the offense had no creativity and lacked rhythm . the defense was out of position and missed tackle after tackle. above all we lacked focus and looked like a team that didnt trust what the coaches were telling them. freeman needs weapons, he needs a line. he needs HELP. yea he still has improvement to make and needs to play better, but if your writing off a 23 year old qb, well, im just happy your not running a football team. and chidi, no offense, but i didnt know who you were before you started to write for pewterreport and to get as mad as you are at freeman and saying he needs to go is really childish. i agree with chess lord you werent any where close to being a franchise player as a franchise player doesnt only record 5.1 sacks a seaso. to put that in perspective, Stylez G. White averaged 6 sacks a season...
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    Chidi you are a joke man you were never close to being a franchise player and the fact that you think so shows how ignorant and conceded you are. You only excelled cus offensive lines were all worried about 1 man Warren Sapp. You say that without you sapp,lynch,barber wouldnt have made a good defense well without them you guys would have looked like the 2011 bucs defense. You dislike Free cus he didnt know who u were and didnt immediately groveled at your feet it sounds like you both have growing up to do. Do i need to remind you he is 23? How did u act back then and I also remember u had a slow start before sapp came U WERE LUCKY U WERENT CUT! at least thats the way u are thinking. I dont know what is worse that u wrote this or that some people will actually believe your opinion and think u r a franchise player
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    Man... Chidi's got it tough on here. At least when Scott or Mark write something people disagree with, bloggers can't go back into their history and rip them apart. This is just Chidi's opinion. No one on here can say indefinitely that he will be wrong or right with these opinions. Many of you want to have a franchise QB so badly that you look past everything Freeman does. Sorry, but he is not a mechanically efficient quarterback. Can he turn that around? I think he probably still could with the right coaching and hard work, but there is a good chance that he is always going to have bad footwork, accuracy issues, and slow to read defenses. If that's the case and we stick with him the next 2 years then we will not be a very good football team. So get off Chidi's back for saying what he believes and he probably has a better chance of being right than wrong with his Freeman opinion.
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    Chidi we understand you do not like Freeman because of the lack of respect he showed you, but to say he must go is just plain insane, to not acknowledge the effort and solid play from Adrian Clayborn is crazy, Bucs need a strong two back system and play calls that stretch the field if I can sit at home and know which plays the Bucs are gonna call Any NFL D Cordinator can also Rah was just not ready to be a HC the Green bay game showed that Olsen is a QB coach thrown into O cordinator lets see what the team can do when Coaches who have previous experience are calling the shots and we pick up more then a Punter from free agency
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    I was with Chidi for the most part, until he suggested gutting entire units. That is a short-sighted comment and would be rather reactionary. Yes, most of the starting LB's should go (Quincy/Geno) and we have a bunch of WR's who should be backups. To cut Freeman would be wasting a great talent and two years of development. He was surrounded by undrafted free agent talent at RB/WR, so he made a lot of mistakes trying to make plays with them. Under proper tutelage, I still see Freeman as the franchise QB and should become the greatest QB in Buc history (I know, not that hard to do...). I also don't agree on losing the GM. The franchise (coaches/GM/owner) agreed on a path to go young in 2009 to gut the aging roster and have been drafting well so far. His (their) biggest mistake was assuming that the 10-6 record last year meant that they were fine at some key positions (DL/WR/DB/LB), when they really weren't. That will be addressed this off season. This team is just a few FA's away from being very competitive next year. Surround Freeman with speed/talent and get the D servicable, and we will be good to go. Once again, Chidi gets us talking!
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    Horse, P.S. I think after that season that it is ok for me to vent for a while, until they show me a reason to be excited for the future. I didn't expect the playoffs this year, just that the games would be competitive, but instead we got blow outs and quitters. They stole this season from me and I am ticked.
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    buctebowrealy, yeah I can understand your frustration. If you had to pick only one thing to change right now in the present what would you change? For me, I would contact every player and strongly suggest they start working out here in the Tampa Bay Area as soon as a HC/DC/OC is hired.
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    Well if they want to make the team, they certainly had better do that, as they are pretty weak on the talent side. It will be an interesting offseason with a good bit of blood letting I think, especially in the D7, where Hayes and Black especially need to go. If Black isn't cut it, will be so Dom doesn't look so dumb. Foster needs to move to the outside with a veteran FA brought in for the middle and another OL is needed as well. Of all the positions that need work, the linebackers are the most critical, because they can't stop the run and until they can, they won't win. A real #1 receiver and a real change of pace RB like Sproles (what a shame we didn't pick him up when we had the chance) are the other two biggest needs, but you could talk about CB and Saftey as well, plus depth everywhere and what about the DT's, as they can't stay healthy? It is just too much to fix in one year.
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    buctebow, yeah I agree, but you have to start somewhere. the older you get the tougher it is to witness repeats (starting over) again.
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    Wow, this article took all the bad feelings the fans had about this past season and turned it up a notch. I don't think a complete house cleaning is needed. The coaching staff is gone and Dominik should have taken a lot more responsibility, considering he orchestrated the mess. Who knows, maybe he still losses his job, depending on the coaching hire. But cutting the entire team lose? I don't think that's realistic. I would agree that most of the team will be on the chopping block, too many players aren't NFL caliber. There are still several players on the roster with good upside, they just need proper direction.
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    Morris may found a new job quicker than we can get a new coach. Ironically I think he will be getting a DB Coach position, something he should have stayed at three years ago. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7430202/sources-minnesota-vikings-interview-raheem-morris-high-level-job-d
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    One of the dumbest articles ever posted. I liked some of your work this year, but this one is ridiculous. We were all too high last year after 10-6 and we're mostly way too low this year after 4-12. This is a time for logic not panic. I suppose Philip Rivers should be canned after the year he had in 2011. The Bucs have a long history of dumping young quarterbacks who appear not to be progressing and regretting it--Vinny Testeverde and Steve Young come to mind. Freeman is a good kid with a lot of intangibles who needs good coaching and a surrounding cast.
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    Not Vinny...Mr. color blind throw it to the wrong jersey Vinny?
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    ...oh wait completely forgot we need a coaching staff as well. Not too much to do in one offseason when the last 7 offseasons have produced nothing right?
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    Nice to see everyone on the boards thanks to Chidi's mercurial post. I agree with some of your thoughts Chidi but I disagree about Freeman. We simply have way too may problems at other positions that is greater than our issues with Freeman's development (or lack thereof). We have no LBs, no CBs, and no speed on Offense. That is what we need to focus on in the draft and in free agency. Will the Glazers and Dom get the right guys? Lets hope so otherwise another double digit loss season and empty stadium are in store...
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    skanji65, totally agree.
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    Hey G"Losers" do you need the Ghost of Christmas Past to come visit you and rattle his chains to get you to spend some money, or are you satisfied with counting your money and going to hell? I hear you can't take it with you....
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    buctebowreallyPOdatGLosers, your posting is similar to the Colts, Rams, Browns and etc. who had 10 games or more as losses. It does no one any good to just spout out negative comments and no realistic suggestions. I mean, please.
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    My point is that a new coach will not fix this situation. The GLosers must start paying for "some" free agents. The roster is so shredded after 7 years of the lowest payroll, that it will take time to recover assuming the start to spend some money, which we don't know that they will, or if it will be spent effectively. Right now and until after they get a coach, a staff, FA and the draft, there is no reason that I can find that provides any hope for significant progress in the organization. My suggestion is to sell the team to someone who wants to win.
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    Where did it all go wrong? The PLAN. Ownership is totally to blame for a faulty plan (even though it wasn't faulty for them, it was designed to and worked perfectly to rape Tampa Bay of their money). Morris is a smart guy and knew he was taking a flyer on an impossible situation going in, but what did he have to lose...decent pay compared to what he had in the past and good experience. So the perfect storm of luck didn't happen and he got fired...I am sure he was not surprised. It was as if the G"Losers" said "Raheem, take these Lincoln logs and build me the Taj Mahal"...it just was not going to happen my friend.
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    Wait...Lincoln logs are too good...it was toothpicks!
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    When you do not spend money in free agency for 7 years this is what you get. It compounds every year that you are not trying to upgrade. Just look at what we have to fill this year because we didn't do anything last year. We could have had possibly a veteran LB in Nick Barnett (big upgrade from Hayes or Black), CB Joseph or Namdi (Huge upgrade from Biggers), and RB Sproles. That would have let us concentrate on other positions this year. But now we have at least 8 positions that really need attention. It's not about spending a ton of money, but at least doing a little something every year. Now... due to the owner's lack of spending... yes, we do need to spend BIG.
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    You are right. Especially Sproles, setting a league record this year for all purpose yards....but we didn't need him at all, we had Lumpkin.
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    Readers are asking why I did not list Raheem as a suspect. Simply because Raheem is already fired. But for all those making excuses for the suspects I listed as a reason to retain them., the same excuses should apply to Raheem and give reason for retaining him. Saying that Josh Freeman IF he had faster receivers, faster RBs, better OC, and better HC, then the same can be said about Raheem and his coaching staff. To say that Mark Dominik, IF he had owners in the Glazers that would spend more money to acquire talent, then the same can be said about Raheem and his coaching staff. We all know Raheem and his coaches are to blame partly for the bad results this season. If you fire Raheem and his coaches for the terrible season then you should fire all those responsible.
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    Chidi- Thanks for the article. While I appreciate your honesty, candor and emotion I can't help but disagree with some on your "suspect" list. Freeman is a tough call at this point. There are plenty of arguments, all legit, both for and against him. However, I think this year is his year to sink or swim. He will NOT be protected by Morris anymore and a new HC, whoever that is, should be able to make a call on his future after next season. Is he a suspect? Maybe so but I believe that'll play out next season and giving up on him now may be too early. I don't think any of us believe next year will be exponentially better with/without him so why not let him play himself in or out of town? To me Dominik is also a tough call. You may know otherwise but I can't help but feel that we're not getting the full story on how much or how little he has to work with under the current ownership. Your other calls on the WR, DL, LB and DB groups are too broad a brush to paint. Painting all of these players, er "playas", as suspects would lead to an issue with coaching or leadership. It's hard to believe that every single roster player within these positions is not worthy or being a Buc or lacking in talent. Certainly there are some that can or should be replaced but not all. Thanks again for your perspective.
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    Which coach or coaches have been working with Freeman since he has been a Buc and what are their credentials?
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    Olsen and Rah have been with Freeman all 3 of his years. QB coach, Van Pelt, has been with him the last 2 years. He's had a fair amount of consistency from his coaches early in his career. Much more than many young QBs have to go thru early.
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    Remember this one (from tampabay.com): MAY 04, 2010 Bucs hire Jonathan Grella as Director of Communications The Bucs named Jonathan Grella, a Washington, D.C., public relations professional with over a decade of working in the political realm, as their Director of Communications This was all part of the G"Losers" plan to play spin city and reinforce their B.S. message to all of the fans with their stupid "rebuilding plan" that had no chance of success. It was just designed to bamboozle the ticket base and rake in the money. If you believe anything the G"Losers" say then it is a shame. They have proved themselves untrustworthy, ever since the boys took over for their father. Their are no suspects, only convicts...the G"Losers". "The fish rots from the head down"!! SELL THE TEAM!!!!!!!
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    All I know is that we started rebuilding 3 years ago and we are worse now than when we started, in fact we are the worst team in the league, the worst team in the history of the Bucs (including the inaugural season) and deserve the first round pick in the draft, but the Bucs even lost out on that. Great rebuilding plan G"Losers", it's not like everyone didn't tell you it wouldn't work...idiots, money mongers. Now we have to rebuild again from scratch. Chidi is right, just about everyone must go. The problem with that is that we don't have enough draft picks to do that and the G"Losers" won't spend the money in free agency to fix it. More years of losing ahead, unless they sell the team (to someone who cares).
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    Thanks for reminding us that you were a franchise player...again. This article goes from "Save Raheem Morris" to "Fire Everyone". I would expect to see the content of this article more UNDER the "Comments" line than above it. Sounds more like a rant by a disgruntled fan than by a journalist with the unique potential insight of a former player. I really didn't see the facts to support your swing from keep all to keep just about nothing. Freeman has his future in his own hands and this is a perfect opportunity for him to grow by not being in the coach's protective shadow. We will see if #5 will remain a Bucs captain in the first half of the 2012 season. I don't think anyone had any high expectations for Foster this season...aside from the entire front office. We hoped for the best and he did the best job he could with the chunk of responsibility he was given. It is proof of the extremely poor performance of the front office to leave a position with such a huge impact to the entire defensive scheme to 'wishful thinking'. They made the same errors in the realm of running back and defensive secondary. Speaking of the defensive secondary, were they completely left out of this article? This is an area of our team which ranges from gladiator determination and skill(by one player, Ronde Barber) to the rest - showing inept lack of ability all the way to complete disregard for what it means to honor the rest of their team with dedication and behavior becoming a true professional athlete. I think one thing that has saved Dominick for the time being is his very timely acquisition of Albert Haynesworth. I think #95 will continue to pay dividends and will provide a great level of depth and competitiveness within the defensive line. I also think Big Al appreciates the Bucs coming in when they did and getting him out of the vicious tailspin that he was in - in part, caused by the front offices of his two former teams. We'll just have to see how that whole dynamic plays out if we have any shot at getting Fisher as head coach. In closing, I was enriched more by reading the "Comments" section to this article than the source that started it. Fail.
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    all buccaneer "bumbas" shoud head to the barber shop and "skin dog" those dreadlocks away man....start fresh and new....there are a handful of guys who should get freshly cut...so fresh and so clean....adam from ny says DO IT....DO IT!
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    we really need to find a veteran beast middle linebacker, move foster to one side and q. black to the other....and of course we will just pray for black to come off the edge in beast mode...but don't count on it....so yeah we might need a replacement for him as well....in fact mason foster generally got a pass from all media due to rookie status, but the kid looked lost at midseason and actually shell shocked down the stretch of the season...i saw not an ounce of growth or coming of age from him, but that can also be from all surrounding wheels falling off around him...get a look at his grill on tapes....he is not plexin'...he is perplexed - a whole different thing...he wore that bad look of confusion as an expression a lot towards the end of the year....so make that "3 stud linebackers to go" please...and 2 egg rolls and a wonton soup....what is chris speilman doing....maybe he would make a nice linebackers coach.....remember him?....he was quite the machine at one time....adam from ny
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    i heard geno hayes was spotted in the bathroom of leeroy selmons near the stadium in the bathroom carving his name into a bathroom stall with a key..."geno hayes was here"....while holding a pint glass in the other hand....i guess he knows he won't be here in the future.....he should have simply wrote: "geno hayes won't be here" to set the record straight......go check out selmon's bathroom to peep out his handywork......adam from ny
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    HEY EVERYONE, I SELDOM POST,BUT WHEN I HEAR ABOUT CANNING FREEMAN THE URGE TO SHOUT OUT COMPELS ME. W.T.F. ARE PEOPLE THINKING. IF FREEMAN HAS ANY CHANCE TO SUCCEED HE HAS TO HAVE BLOCKERS. TIGHT ENDS NEED TO BLOCK FIRST CATCH SECOND. TRUE BLOOD HAS TO GO, FREEMAN NEEDS TO THROW FOR 60 YARDS JUST TO MAKE UP FOR HIS PENATIES. AND AS CHIDI SAYS (SUSPECT) FAINE NEEDS TO HANG IT UP. I'VE WATCHED THIS TEAM FROM DAY 1 AND THE SECONDARY WAS THE WORST I'VE EVER SEEN. THANK GOD THERE IS GOING TO BE A GREAT CORNER IN THE DRAFT TO SELECT FIRST (CLAIBORNE) AND SOME FAIRLY DECENT LINE BACKERS TO FIX THIS CRAPPY D. IT'S LEFT TO BE SEEN IF THE GLAZERS PONY UP AND AT LEAST TRY TO AQUIRE SOME DECENT PLAYERS, BUT I SUSPECT NOT.
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    I agree, Freeman deserves a chance next year, but he WAS a major problem this year. His pass blocking was above average. That line is a very good pass blocking line, except for the last few games when everyone gave up. Freeman has to rely on his reads (if he can see it) next year and get into a rhythm. 5 steps and when he hits that fifth step, he needs to step and throw. 7 step drop, same thing... hit the last step and throw. He never does that! Watch NFL, college... and the best QBs drop and throw in rhythm. We had none this year. And he really didn't last year. That year he made plays happen with his feet and body. WRs are only open for a short time and if he is not hitting them in those windows the DBs close them. I hope he can do it, but I am very skeptical.
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    While I agree with Chidi that this team played like it needs to be blown up, let's take a realistic, common-sense approach to what it is going to take to turn this mess around..... We need (offense) a top receiver, running back, fullback and right tackle. (Defensive) 2 linebackers, two corners and a safety. We also need a solid back-up quarterback and a swing tackle to replace these 2 useless backups. I would love to see the bucs pick up one lb in the draft and bring in someone like London Fletcher to teach and lead these baby Bucs for a year or two. This would help their growth more than you could imagine. Discipline and solid offensive and defensive game planning is the major drawback and the resultant factor for this horrendous year.
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    Chidi, I like the though process. I can certainly see the need to get rid of Freeman. In this QB era we are in, there is absolutely no excuse for elite QB's to struggle. He's not an elite QB, and the proof is in the pudding. In a year in which QB's are breaking records left and right, that SHOULD tell the fans something about what we have here. There were plays to be made on the field he simply didn't make. I don't buy the garbage about not having an elite star WR. That's bogus. The QB's cannot be touched without a flag being called. The CB's cannot touch the WR's anymore. It's so much easier to rack up passing yards and minimize your interceptions. To me, yards is simply a number and can no longer be a true measuring stick of who is an elite QB. A 300-yard passing day does not mean what it used too. To me, the one line you zoom-in on is the interception totals. That's on the QB. The great ones all have very limited interceptions and great INT/TD ratios. This QB does not. I cringed when Tampa traded up to draft him in the first place, just as I felt confident the rebuilding process under Raheem with no experience would never work. The Glazers are to blame in my opinion. They are wise enough to know you do not hand over the keys to rebuilding a business from the ground up to guys with no experience. That was mistake number one. I do not blame Raheem. He was setup to fail from the beginning. I made my opinion loud and clear on this long ago. How many of you would allow anyone with no experience to take over a business in order for long-term success, had to have some major decisions (Draft/Free Agency/Trades) be made and made correctly in order for you to have a chance to win? Noone. The Glazers had to know the risk / reward to allowing Raheem and Dominik to take over, and to me it was done to save money, plain and simple. I still believe at this moment in time the Glazers are not serious about winning a championship in Tampa, whatever the reason; you decide. I don't care the reason, but I feel you can safely say they are not serious about winning. I'll make all of you a bet. How much you bet the next hire will have many years of NFL experience? This type of hire that's about to go down should have been the type of hire to lead the rebuilding process in the first place. Here we are, years later, and you will see they'll finally go that route. All the while, we the fans have suffered.
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    bucfan47, welcome back into the conversations.
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    What an emotional pile of garbage this article was. Chitti are you a professional writer or just another frantic fan spouting out ridiculousness? Seems like the latter to me. I'm as disgusted as the next guy with this season, but you need to grow up, get a grip, and make big boy articles. FAIL.
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    Wow, Freeman's snub of Chidi must've really cut deep. And, what, no mention of the "Great Wall"?
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    The management had too much confidence in him after last yr and never had a contigency plan if he faltered. We need defensive help right now. Cornerback and linebacker. go out and get some free agency help at wide receiver, QB, and running back.
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    Getting rid of Freeman is crazy talk. We need a seasoned Veteran to back him up, but you don't give up on the guy after one ugly yr. The
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    Chidi you sure stirred it up this time but I think you might have gotten a little dizzy from cigar smoke. Like most of us, I had high hopes, yet a significant amount of doubt, that Raheem would be able to go from a young DB coach to HC AND DC with no experience or track record at either. His problems began when he thought he knew more than he did, wanted to create his own defensive scheme and abandoned the infamous Tampa 2. This led to mass confusion on the parts of the coaches and the ultra-young players who were trying to learn, but still questioning this unsound system. Thus, we had complete chaos on the defensive side of the ball resulting in the worst defense in Bucs history. It took opposing teams 6 short weeks to figure out how to exploit it. Being unable to stop the opponent from controlling the ball and allowing them to score early and often resulted in our offensive game plan (good or bad) to be abandoned. Instead of needing 17 points to win, we needed 35 or more. The 23 year old QB, who you want to jettison, was basically left to fend for himself as the weapons at his disposal were somehow becoming more and more impotent. The "here we go again" frustration level escalated as the collective confidence of the team sunk deeper and deeper. In games they became like the junior high kid who had his lunch money stolen every day to the point he hates going to school and wouldn't fight back. It all just snowballed and when they looked to Raheem for guidance he just folded his arms and had that "Don't ask me" look on his face. While the defense statistically was at the bottom of the league, the offense was ranked where it was back in the old days when you and the others carried the team. It's not so much that Raheem failed as a HC as he was a disaster as DC. You certainly know that better than we do. Neither Lynch, Sapp, Brooks, Barber, Quarles nor you were instant stars so I think it foolish to suggest that Foster be the last man standing and that no other player is worthy of a shot with better leadership. There are a lot of rumors that Rah was too much of a "playa" himself. I believe you know that first hand.
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    scubog, as usual very good points.
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    I refuse to believe that the Bucs are at "Rock Bottom." Three elements lead to a terrible conclusion to 2011. Foremost a youth movement which left many starting rookies and not enough veteran stability had a major affect on a team which was deprived of an offseason and riddled with injuries. Second, Morris was destined to fail. He was in way over his head and simple psychology 101 will tell you that his imaturity and inexperience, combined with a a bunch of kids was destined to be a recipe for disaster. When the team lost its swagger, Morris did not have a clue. Obvious by the glib robot-like press conferences and the onfield tandrums (Blount/Price) Rah needs another 10 years of understudy before he is ready to take the Helm of an NFL team; You can't be everyones friend. Finally the real blame falls on Ownership that is passionate about soccer but naive when it comes to the dynamics of football. It's like so many unfortunate kids today who are instructed by thier parents to sit down, shut-up, and play video games. But don't bother us. Good teams have good owners. It all starts at the top. As a long time Buc fan I still have hope (see Chidi above.) We have several good players that will respond to good coaching and a dose of veteran leadership. That will make the next few years interesting. Don't be suprised if it comes sooner than later......Go Bucs.
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    This is the best article I have ever read on Pewter Report. My compliments. It is on the mark. Will it happen? Very doubtful. Especially getting the Heisman winner to replace Freeman. I would say Freeman was handicapped big time by Olsen. It is time to clean house. It is once again fun to read about what is happening with the Bucs. Good job.
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    I rather think Olsen was handicapped by Freeman. He understood his strengths and deficiencies as did the defenses pick up on them. Other thing is, S. King had basically the same stats as RG3 coming out of college. There is no guarantee there.
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    ehinote.. your right I think. And Freeman would hold the ball and if a lane was open he would not run . I guess he was waiting for the light to turn green. lol.
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    soo what your saying now is the sky is finally falling? lol....As opposed to your last article
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    I really enjoy your columns Chidi, and I absolutely agree that not enough accountability has occurred at One Buc. My one question though centers around the players. If you're going to blow large sections of the roster (QB, WR, LB) does that mean that the youngest roster in the NFL, for two straight seasons, isn't moldable? Looking back on your experiences isn't it more necessary to change the veteran leadership (or in this case simply get some) than get rid of the young players? Because by extension you need to look at the O-line which was inconsistent at best, the "star" RB, and the secondary. Unfortunately there was not one or two bad units on this team but all of them were bad. Thus I agree that veterans like Quincy Black and Geno Hayes need to go. But when I look at young players like Josh Freeman and Mike Williams I don't hear that they're work ethic isn't there, like you saw with Michael Clayton, but rather its a leadership and discipline issue which at their age is correctable.
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    Chidi, Chidi, Chidi, judging a QB after only 2 and a half years and saying get rid of him is harsh and more importantly is just horrible research on your part. Let's judge you on your first three years you played.....5.5 sacks in three years. If you were the coach would you have cut yourself? In fact it took you until year 5 to 'break out' with 10 sacks. So how is it that you can judge someone and say they deserve to go and not really give them the same amount of time it took you to break out in this league. Yes freeman is 17-23 but how many of those loses were on the defense? Let's be honest here, he started 8 games his rookie season, can't really judge those. He comes out and has a great season last year and then he has a bad season and you want to cut him? I'm sure glad you aren't the GM or we would still have morris as coach and have no QB. I'm sorry but I find you very biased and think that most of these articles are laughable.
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    Oh get OVER it Chidi. The biggest thing Freeman did wrong was forget to shake your hand, you big baby. Freeman isn't going anywhere, and the more likely (and appropriate) scenario is you getting let go from Pewter Report. You are so self-absorbed (coming from a man with the user name "King of the World", yes) and biased (more importantly). "Freeman didn't know who -I- was, Chidi "played next to Sapp" Ahanannannantooo!?! How dare he!?!" Freeman is a winner, and just had a bad year. It happens. I agree on Dom, but that's about it. Just stop already. We have so many needs RG3 would be WORST thing we could do. CB or WR has to be pick.
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    Chidi calling out Freeman is absolutely right. Even when we were winning, Freeman was playing poorly. And I'm not buying that its the WR's - I was at every game except New Orleans - guys were open - Josh either wasn't looking or was throwing high and outside. And don't blame the O-line - Free had plenty of time. Play calling and scheme - big part of the problem and I've been calling for Greg Olson's head since game 3. But something changed this year from last with Freeman. He was not the same player. I don't draft RG3 - get a veteran free agent, we don't need more rookies on this team in critical positions. I was behind Rah until the last few games. But when the team quit on him, not sure you can do anything else. Here's the thing thoug, when they starters loaf, who does Raheem put in - Elert Mack? LB's we've never heard of? Jevon Haye???? C'mon! That's on Dominick and the Glazers.
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    Dman.. right with you. Also remember overthrow, underthrow,behind. Hell that was even on the short routes. Can't read a defense and still stares down his receivers after 2 1/2 years. Everybody knew 90% of the time he was going to K2 or try for Williams. Has a slow wind up like Slugwich had. Yes ,Chidi is on the money. But give him 1 more year, if no improvement, we will still hear the excuses. By the way, did you notice that about 85% of the time he was yelling at the receiver as it was always the receivers fault? They ran the wrong route, were not where he thought they would be etc...
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    Tell it like it is Chidi, like reading your articles. I was in the stands for all your games and enjoyed the great old days. IMO I say give Dominik one more year to see how the new coach handles things. Dominik also needs to make major chages in the scouting department. Dominik is also tied at the hip to Freeman and if Freeman has another bad year with a new HC and OC it will be time to let them both go.
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    I think the question that no one is asking is what happened to this team? They were very competitive for the last 9 in 09 season 10 wins in 2010 season, and for 7 games into this season. I didn't see a lack of talent I saw them just quit period. Something caused that, and I want to hear what it was? I used to hear players speak with passion and fire after a loss and that went away mid way through the season. I have seen every single Bucs game since 2002 season. Last time I saw this type of drastic change was when Monte Kiffin told the players he was leaving to coach with his son. Bottom line is something happened to this team and I am asking the question WHAT HAPPENED???
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    I'm actually extremely disappointed on how hard bucs fans are hitting the panic button. A young, mildly-talented roster coached by a man who wasn't ready for the job. Glazers had to bite the bullet on this one; Morris should've been tested at D-coordinated (at least) before moving to head coach. Despite the coaching, these players still flashed potential against SUPER-BOWL contending teams...don't let the late-season flop fool you (which is a product of the lack of leadership), the bucs have talent in select areas. Shame on Chidi for doing precisely what he warned others not to do. Playmakers at WR, CB, SS, RB are pressing needs as well as some O-line depth. But core units are intact....just take a step back in relax (this draft will be very important for Dominik and Hickey).
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    LOL the quintessential "throw the baby out with the bath water" column. Hey why don't we demolish Ray Jay while we're at it? I mean, some of the worst football in Tampa Bay history was played there after all. It would take years to get that stench out of the stadium, heck let's just burn it to the ground and build a new stadium instead. The stadium analogy isn't dissimilar from dumping Freeman...or every wide receiver and defensive back. You praise Matt Flynn because he played exactly one good NFL game in his life where he threw 6 TD's and there was no pressure on him but fail to remember Freeman threw 5 TD's against Seattle last year when there was the possibility of the playoffs on the line? Puh-leeze. Get over your weak-handshake slight and grow up. There isn't a GM in the league who would dump Freeman, and if there is I'd like to find them. If you admit that the WR's were atrocious (and it appears they were) then you can't see that maybe it affected the QB? You think Matt freaking Flynn would've stepped in this year and proved better? You'd like to spend a top 5 pick on another QB who, if you are lucky can throw 25 TD's which Freeman (at age 22) already has done, while there is a still half-chance the 1st rd QB turns into the next Blaine Gabbert/Matt Leinart/Akili Smith/Tim Couch/Vince Young/Rex Grossman/JP Losman/David Carr etc etc etc. Let's just say I'm happy you are writing about my favorite team rather than making emotional personnel decisions and razing it to the ground.
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    He can't TRULY believe that Freeman is that bad....no way! but agreed, severe over-exaggeration
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    CHIDI, one thing is clear, your articles consistently draw many post discussions compared to any other articles on here man. There simply is a good reason for it. I may not agree on some of your opinions but I love to read your opinions regardless. Keep em coming!!From my own experiences, firing everyone all at once can be even worse than before creating to much fear and panic. I personally prioritize the worst areas, implement new resources gauge progress and if there then re-prioritize again and do the same. Sometimes firing the worst area first can correct other areas without you needing to change them...
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    Dbuc63, we've been in management and Chidi hasn't; he's getting educated now from some of us. I agree with you because dropping a bomb and wiping everybody out just means that somebody has to retrieve all the pieces at once rather than gradually and the fear thing is real for many employees.
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    I would strongly consider offering Freeman and the #5 pick to the Colts for the #1 and take Luck. The Colts cant take Luck and keep Manning. But after this season, they could justify making Freeman sit behind Manning for a year or so.
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    a-bomb, I disagree; Freeman is worth more than that.
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    Its just hard to know what we have in Freeman. The very good QB's in this league adjust when defenses figure them out. It is clear that Freeman was unable to do that. Part of it is the WRs who as a group are very average. But that doesn't explain the throwing from the back foot, and starring down receivers. In some of these games, there were plays to be made that Freeman just missed. I hope he can put it together, but I have significant doubts. I suggested the trade because Freeman might have more value now than he would after next season if he is unable to figure it out.
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    I was with you until you said Freeman has to go. He did stink it up this year but the talent is there and with a GOOD coach I think he can thrive in the NFL. I have been a Bucs fan for 32 years so I too have seen my fair share of terrible football but the building blocks are here. I see a soild DL forming with Clayborn, Bowers, Price and McCoy and its just going to take time (Sapp and Brooks didn't lead this franchise to a SB overnight) and with good coaching and good support players around them I think they can rise up once again.
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    Chidi, I appreciate your passion and your ability to be in the best interest of both the bucs organization and the fans. You have a very unique perspective that I can appreciate. That being said, I disagree with two things. 1.) the verdict is still out on Josh Freeman. You don't have a season like 25-6 by accident. That could've been a 27-6 season if the two Benn deep ball receptions downed at the 1 yard line went in. 2.) Mark Dominik. He deserves the opportunity to be a full GM, meaning hand selecting his coach. Whoever is the new coach, dominik will ride or die with. I believe dominik can find talent, the question is, can he find leaders and put together a cohesive team. If the new coach that he has a hand in selecting fails, Dom goes with him. Thanks again for your perspective and I appreciate the read every time.
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    AC Service86365416946, get a Subcription before you say anything; that's what I and many others did. It's only $10 a year!
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    Chidi I think all your article was amazing you always give a great inside of what's happening around the bucs. Me and my wife are always waiting for your next article and when you post it we are always satisfied. We love how you write and especially how you express your opinion. Know doubt we think that you are the best reporter on the pewter report and hope you keep writing. You have changed this report. And hope you keep writing. God bless.
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    N-forcer....I LOVE YOU! Will you and your wife adopt me? LOL! Just kidding. Seriously thank you so much for your comments. My children read the comments on here and they will love to see their daddy has some readers who do like his writing. God bless you too.
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    N-forcer, I agree that Chidi is getting better and he does say what he thinks. Hey at least more Sound Offs are responding and we get to bring in other thoughts; as long as you have subscribed to Pewter Report.
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    Its ironic...is it not, that Chidi's last column was about Freeman's arrogance, yet Chidi cannot write a column without referring to himself as the "franchise player." And it seems that he's still upset that Freeman didnt grovel at his feet.
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    AC Service86365416946, get a Subcription before you say anything; that's whatI and many others did. It's only $10 a year!
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    Yes, I have to qualify myself by saying I was the Franchise Player. Seems that I have to because people who post on this site repeatedly clamor to discredit me as a voice of opinion about the Buccaneers. The common line of thought for many Bucs fans is that somehow only John Lynch, Warren Sapp, Derrick Brooks and Ronde barber are the only ones who are qualified to speak on the Bucs and are the only ones who are the reason for any success we had during our glory years. I love all those guys (yes Sapp too). Great players. They all needed the remaining7 players on defense, however; to attain the success we had. Also, yes; Josh Freeman needs a history lesson and needs to grovel at my feet! Pay homage to those that came before you and be respectful to the players that created the legacy of the legendary Tampa 2. And bow down to the players that turned things around here and made it possible for the Bucs to be in the limelight in the 1st place instead of the jokes of the NFL.LOL! (That's a JOKE folks) (Well...most of it. LOL!).
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    Chidi, I am right with you. Yes you do have that right. You were a good player, a hard worker, and you earned it. The problem we have now is that Coach Morris previously declared some of these players starters before they ever put the pads on. Now as an old North Vietnam Regular Army Soldier told me when I returned back to Vietnam in 2007, we invited some of the people to re- education camps; well that's what we got here. Playa's, the Tampa Bay Bucaneers invite you to re-education camp and learn how to play in the NFL. Go Bucs!
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    Chidi, no fault of yours but you inadvertantly contributed to Sapp not staying here at least one more season. He publically stated that getting hit with the Franchise Tag would be great, but it was still tied to your long term contract that was signed after the NFL deadline to sign Franchised players. When McKay did that the tag was unavailable until the last contract year was up. That was one of McKays biggest mistakes when he fail to sign you before the deadline and not waiting until the new window opened. Not to say Allen would've tagged him but it tied his hands. McKay also gave Sapp's money to Booger when he resigned him, which was another gaff. Also, giving Jason Odom franchise LT contract to replace Gruber when Odom was coming off of back surgery and never played a down. Drafted small frail WRs that didn't like to block which was necessary for the ball control offenses that Dungy wanted. He should of had more big blocking WRs. Yet McKay always got billed as a great GM. Sorry for my McKay rant, but we're all talking about the past.
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    Readers are asking why I did not list Raheem as a suspect. Simply because Raheem is already fired. But for all those making excuses for the suspects I listed as a reason to retain them., the same excuses should apply to Raheem and give reason for retaining him. Saying that Josh Freeman IF he had faster receivers, faster RBs, better OC, and better HC then the same can be said about Raheem and his coaching staff. To say that Mark Dominik IF he had owners in the Glazers that would spend more money to acquire talent, then the same can be said about Raheem and his coaching staff. We all know Raheem and his coaches are to blame partly for the bad results this season. If you fire Raheem and his coaches for the terrible season then you should fire all those responsible.
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    PewterReportChidi, I can see where you are coming from. They all might get fired, but not at the same time? The biggest problem was extremely poor Coaching; then scouting which is Dominik's biggest influence that we can nail him for. The problem is that he does have some good players he has selected, a couple bad ones, and the jury is still out on about half the draft picks and free agents he brought in. What I am saying is that he gets one more year; I was in favor of Morris getting the same thing when we were 4-6 and then it all changed for me after that. There was zero reason that we lost 10 straight games; that just piss poor coaching. Please don't be so defensive; some of the Sound Off's enjoy being rude.
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    100% disagree about Freeman he's only had one full offseason and it would be insane to get rid of him crazy insane! This is not the first time Dom has been accused of being in over his head, wasn't he completely unprepared and under staffed the first free agency and couldn't get a hold of free agents in time before other teams swiped them up? Give Freeman a chance please he's just got to put more time in and his work ethic needs to improve from what insiders have said but thats true of the whole team and new coaching staff should solve that problem. I keep hearing rumors about some of the assistant coaches being part of the problem and something about London, does anyone know more details? Also what reasons did pr give for keeping Dom?
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    Chidi Ahanotu Man you realy got it out for this guy. Its evident that your stirring the pot and try to create something since your last two articles. I completly disagree. Its nobodys fault but the head coach for loosing the locker room. And im a Rah fan. But he has to be accountable too. It showed last year that there was talent hense the 2010 season. With lack of disipline you get 2011. The front office did there accoutability. FIRED THE HEAD COACH! You and Shawn King are doing the same thing. Thats why when his show comes on I turn the radio station. And with articles like this is why Im a guest on this webste not a subscriber. Pewter Report get some real insider info. Not knock offs from ESPN.COM and I subscribe tommorow! And DAMN fix the time on here will ya! GO BUCS!!!!!
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    AC Service8636516946, join the group; it's only $10 a year and that's your right to disagree. Without a subscription just please read and don't comment; I know I won't show you any respect until you do so. Go Pewter Report1 Keep up the good job!
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    Horse... looks like he's advertising for business. That's a polk county phone number.
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    dixieboy, thank you and you could be right.
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    Auburndale to be exact. Ill go ahead and donate 10.00 right now so I can comment.
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    Ac Service, good thank you and welcome aboard. Go Bucs!
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    Welcome AC Service. Now let's get this ship afloat again.
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    I love the insight from Chidi. Chidi got half of it right. The LB's are a major problem, but the WR's and Freeman had to endure a terrible OLine. As a former player Chidi should know that it all starts up front. Chidi is basically saying that since they fired Raheem they should fire everyone now. A few weeks ago he said they needed to keep Raheem another year. I'm just glad Chidi isn't the GM. How can you have all those problems on a team without finding fault with the coaching?
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    GrimmReaper, Chidi said he was wrong like many of us who changed our mind.
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    Chidi, I was there in the stands in those good, bad old days. josh can do it, but needs better coaching and a better offensive coordinator. We need a burner to open up the receivers. Mike Wiliams is not a number 1 receiver. The only line backer worth hoot is Mason Foster.
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    Typical Chidi - say something really obvious, and then follow it up with something really dumb for good measure. I sure hope Dominik isn't stupid enough to be responsible for this season AND get rid of the closest thing to a franchise QB this town has ever seen. Give him time... and a flippin #1 receiver!!!!!!
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    Yeah, I have to agree that Freeman can't really be judged on this years results. If your receivers aren't getting separation, you're gonna throw some picks. And I really think the pass protection wasn't steller because Trueblood can't block anyone. Now Freeman has to be accountable for most of his errors, but we need to see what he can do with good receivers. As for the rest of the "suspects," they need to go. And I wouldn't doubt it if Dom gets axed at the behest of the new coaching staff, but if not, I'm fine if he gets another year to prove himself. GO BUCS!
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    Nice to see Chidi is consistent in blaming everyone but Raheem.
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    I agree about the Dominik assessment. He does need to go. But after listening to PR radio last night, I see why hes probably still here. The Glazers didn't want to hire a new GM too, so he survived the axe. But what you said about Freeman is crazy. He's still very young and this is his second STARTING season. You compared him to Cam Newton and Andy Dalton, interesting, two QB's the league has very little tape on and explosive WR's. What do you think Freeman would be able to do with a competent OC and Steve Smith or AJ Green. Really. Look what he did last year when everyone played like they cared. Carolina and Cincinnati has veteran players and coaches too, not Tampa Bay. Bad comparison. Once Freeman gets help...ie speed RB, speed WR, OL protection, OC with a brain, and an off-season, he'll be fine.
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    Chidi, good Article and I don't see how anyone can disagree with it. I still am not sure though if the complete changeover is necessary at this moment. I believe that replacing the Coaches had to be done like several weeks ago. Dominik has one more Draft and Free Agency to determine his success or failure. right now I rate him at C---. He also better hope that Freeman and McCoy have a new awakening. The scouting staff is very weak and has been for quite sometime. If Dominik leaves everything as is in that department he is doomed. Here's a big problem right in front of us right now; evaluation of all the past and yet present Bowl Games and the East/West Shrines and North/South Games because I am not sure how much coaching will be available to support some of the data being collected and especially the player interviews.
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    McCoy? really? I have lost all faith in him. He will not become a superstar, maybe he can hold a starting role if he can stay healthy. Being on IR every year will make it impossible for him to even become a decent journeyman. Freeman deserves more time and some competition for him would be good. Dominick has not impressed me. He has made more poor decisions than good ones...he can go...and likely will if the new coach doesn't want him.
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    Great article! Agree with the overhaul. The only way I give up on Freeman is if there is the opportunity to select RG3. Bring in RG3, competition creates greatness! If Freeman wants it bad enough he beats out the rookie. The only way I see Freeman getting better is if he has someone pushing him. He hasn't had that and I believe it has been a detriment to his development. If RG3 is the best player avaible you select him, period. The perrenial great teams in this league do it. They rarely draft for need. I think drafting for need leads you to overreach sometimes.
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    sharp2325, that is a good point to think about.
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    Disagree completely about Freeman. He just needs a new system and some WRs that know what routes they are supposed to run. I'm telling you...explosive running back, Veteran WR, get rid of K2, new OC...offense fixed.
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    I think we should gut the back 7 and a good chunk of the offense, but I disagree with getting rid of Freeman and Dominick. We need to give Freeman more time for all the reasons traew pointed out. But for many of the same reasons we should keep Dominick. Its not Dominicks fault the Glazers wont spend money in free agency, and its not Dominicks fault that Morris lost control of the team. Dominick has found us some good players with extremely limited resources he had available.
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    Agree COMPLETELY about Dominik. Disagree completely about Freeman. I do not even count his first season - but he still showed flashes. He had one of the best seasons a Bucs' QB has ever had in year 2, and a sub-par season in Year 3. But in Year 3 his entire team was god awful. How can you really judge Freeman in that regard?? The kid is 23, and many of the league's elite QBs had barely even played a down at age 23. Freeman has thrown for 51 touchdowns!!! And this with rookie wideouts in Williams and Benn, who regressed (like rest of team) in year 2. It is completely ABSURD to give up on Josh Freeman this early. Beyond absurd.
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