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February 24, 2012 @ 10:57 am
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PR REACTS: Schiano Wants Barber Back; Talib Gets A Fresh Start

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New Bucs coach Greg Schiano addressed the media at the NFL Combine on Thursday and talked about the state of the Bucs, including the status of Ronde Barber and Aqib Talib. PewterReport.com reacts to the comments and offers our opinion.


New Buccaneers coach Greg Schiano spoke to the media in Indianapolis while preparing for the upcoming NFL Combine for the first time since being introduced as head coach last month.

Schiano talked on several subjects including the potential return of cornerback Ronde Barber and the legal woes of cornerback Aqib Talib.

Source: The Tampa Tribune’s Bucs beat writer Roy Cummings
Schiano suggested he could use a player of Barber's stature on his team.

“We're going to talk and see, but I think he can help me know that more than I can help him,'' Schiano said Thursday during a break at the NFL scouting combine.

Barber, who turns 37 in April, has played his entire career with the Bucs, setting the team record for games played last season with 225. He had surgery to repair a broken arm sustained in the final game of the season.

"Here's a guy who's a Buc,'' Schiano said. "No doubt about it. It's in his blood, and I know he wants to do the best for (him) and his family, but I know he puts the Bucs right there with them.

"So, I just need to tell him what my vision is for the football team and hear from him how he sees how he fits in that. I think it's going to be a great exchange.

"I'm just going to tell him, 'This is what we're going to try to build here, where do you see yourself fitting in?' He knows it's near the end whether it's a year, two or three. But I think no one knows better than Ronde what's best for all parties involved."

Talib, entering the final year of his contract, faces a felony charge of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon in Texas. His trial is scheduled for late March, and he faces possible jail time or a league suspension.

"I had a great meeting with him where we just kind of talked about life for a little bit," Schiano said of Talib. "I know there's been some things in the past and, at the end of the day, the legal stuff that's going on right now, hopefully that will get resolved. He tells me it will.

"Then, from there, every guy on this football team will know our expectations. There won't be any, 'Well, I thoughts.' You know if you do this everything is cool and if you don't there's going to be consequences.''

PR’s Take On Barber Comments: Since taking over as head coach back on January 27, Greg Schiano has been extremely quiet and rarely seen by the media. On Thursday, Schiano was front and center in front of a media gaggle in Indianapolis and made several interesting points and maybe answered some questions that have been on the minds of Bucs’ fans and the media alike.

On the return of Ronde Barber, Schiano would be wise to try his best to coax the veteran back for at least one more season. The youth of the Buccaneers locker room had been a major topic of discussion for the last three years, and will continue to be until the team stops fielding the youngest team in the NFL. Take away Barber’s 15 years in the league, and a young team grows even younger.

That isn’t to say the Buccaneers should keep Barber only because of his age, but the fact is, Barber displayed the ability to play at a high level last season, leading the Buccaneers in interceptions with three, while adding 77 tackles, two fumble recoveries and one forced fumble.

Barber’s importance to the team isn’t just strictly based on numbers, but the fact that the veteran is one of the few on the roster who can set the example needed for the younger players. While not that fiery, in-your-face leader, several young players last season told PewterReport.com that Barber is the ultimate professional, and many try and pattern their study and practice habits by what the former Virginia star does daily.

And lastly, Barber is the last link to the glory days of Buccaneers football. With the release of fan favorites like Derrick Brooks and John Lynch among others, a bad taste still lingers in the mouths of many Buccaneers fans. There is no doubt there are some who would still love to see Mike Alstott come out of retirement and put on the Pewter again, but realistically those days are gone. But they aren’t for Barber, who is still playing at a high level. And even if he isn’t the same player he was 10 years ago, Barber still brings much to the table in terms of leadership by example, and is that last connection the great Buccaneers teams of the late 1990’s through the Super Bowl year.

PR’s Take on the Talib comments: There seems to be a divide among fans when the name Aqib Talib is brought up. Half would like to see Schiano immediately cut Talib and make an example out of him to the rest of the team. While the other half seems to want to give Talib one more chance, as he is unquestionably the most talented defensive back on the Buccaneers roster.

Schiano’s thinking seems to go along with he second group and PewterReport.com tends to agree. While the transgressions of Talib are well documented, (fights with teammates, berating officials, alterations with cab drivers and an aggravated assault charge in Texas last March) the fact is, Talib possess the talent to be one of the better cornerbacks in the league. And at a position that is already thin, letting go a former first-round pick before his day in court has taken place, doesn’t seem like the best move.

We all love our heroes, but you can bet some of the best players in NFL history prior to the world on instant media, portrayed as bad or worse judgment that Talib has shown, but there was no Twitter, TMZ, or cell phone cameras to capture it. That doesn’t mean making an excuse for his actions, but Schiano seems to have the right ideas when he talked about making sure every player, Talib included, understands exactly what the expectations of Buccaneers players are.

If Talib, who will be entering a contract year, does prove to be innocent of felony charges next month in Texas, he should be welcomed back with open arms but a very short leash – a leash that was probably too long over the last three seasons for the entire roster. Talib will need to prove and regain the trust of Schiano, general manager Mark Dominik and maybe just as importantly – the Buccaneers fans.

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    I see Talib going down like this: They see what happens in court. If he is found guilty, he is cut. If he is not, he is on the team until they can trade him or have to cut him if they can't get a trade. - - - - -Either way, i think his days are numbered.
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    Teams know Talib has anger management issues so they use that to their advantage because he gets to aggressive and over plays throws or he gets stupid penalties that cost the teams downs.. I think it was Claibourne who made a great sack in the redzone stopping a 3rd and goal, I forget which opponent it was but the receiver pushed Talib, he reacted and got a personal foul giving them a first and goal- the team scored and went on to bury the Bucs.. he is a liability as long as he has anger issues also the commissioner put off suspending him this season which while be made up for next season- if jackson got a year for his 4th violation for weed then Talib will get at least that for his actions so it is a mute point...
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    He went this season without any hickups.... Not like that's enough to clean the slate, but if he gets off and never has another issue while in the league, we will be kicking ourselves. No one is putting that much faith into Talib. He gets one chance with Schiano and the first time he sneezes too hard, he's out. Just truth of the matter.
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    Erick25, I am not picking on you; if you know how to obtain the Garland Police Incident Report on Talib can you please let me know. I have been trying to get the actual report for months, but I'm not an attorney and don't live anywhere near the area to go to the police station and retrieve a copy. If any of you are an attorney can you pull it up through your Web Sites and put it on this Web Site or tell us how to obtain a copy. It is for Public Record, but difficult to actually obtain if you aren't an attorney.
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    Scott42: It is painful to sit in the stands surrounded by Lions fans when that blue-clad team from Detroit hasn't done anything in years. As soon as the locals sense that their former "home team" has a better chance of winning, they dig through the box in their attic to find that old #20 Sanders jersey or head to Sports Authority to get the last Suh shirt. An article about Talib sure brings out the strong feelings; even to the point of some wanting to cast aside the Constitution. I suspect none of us here on Pewter Report were at the scene ducking bullets so we all should just let the Court system play out. In spite of any preconceived verdict based on Talib's past incidents, as much as the one for which he stands trial, it seems odd to me that some do not want to allow him his day in Court and have already questioned the credibility of our legal system. At worst, #25 and his mother fired a gun at a known girl-beater. While I don't agree with the approach taken if that proves out to be the case; I put that pretty low on my Scum-bag Scale. I have far more contempt for Roethlesberger and other players who think their status as an NFL player entitles them to take liberties with stary-eyed girls, coaches who video the girls in the locker room, coaches who shower with young boys and especially priests who carry on sexual relations with alter boys and girls knowing that the Bishop will cover it up if discovered. Ronde should be allowed to do whatever he chooses. He'll know when he can no longer be effective as a player.
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    Nicely stated scubog, I completely agree.
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    Horse, I agree that Talib has financial interest in not accepting a plea. I also agree that he'll give the sister's boyfriend and whom ever else enough cash to come out of this as well as he can. He's putting me in a tough spot as seeming to defend him because simply put, he's not a good guy. That said, I want everyone to read the police report, because it contradicts the way in which this is being reported. I'll also admit that my argument is not morally sound in that he has a responsibility as a visible figure to conduct himself exactly the opposite of the way in which he way he has, this is not my proudest moment. I just can't take another season of every team's offense converting third and whatever on Biggers. Keep 25 for a season, keep him on a short leash and give the fellas a chance to be competitive on Sundays. Like him or not, 25 does that and 31 just is not close.
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    Erick25, Where do I find the police report? do you have a Web Site where it is ?
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    That picture makes me sick, look at all the blue jerseys. I just hope we get real fans this year show up before we start winning. Im tired of hearing all the complaining. I like the direction we are going. I wish I could go to every game if I lived closer. Thanks to the real fans who are behind this team and don't complain about EVERYTHING! Go Bucs!
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    I'm just glad Schiano is the HC and PR is my #1 source for Bucs info. I just love it when cooler heads prevail. Based on the post board below we still seem to be split in half on keeping Talib or not. I'll be brief and just say I'm in favor of keeping him. Bucsmaniac said it best...he's the best freakin' corner we've had since Barber.
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    pinkstop, I agree with you that he is the best CB we have. The question I have is does Talib have any clue that he has serious anger issues and is doing something about it? So far Ihave not seen nor heard any effort from Talib that he understands what he did. I know on these "Soundoffs" I come across as tough and hard at times, but we are dealing with guns and anger issues which never goes well. I have zero tolerance for this and our society should have the same. Everyone screws up from time to time, but if you continue to screw up over and over for the same reasons then it's time to get rid of that person.
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    Horse - now see, i'm totally on board with you here. Well said.
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    And he's the biggest moron we've had since......... well - they were cut before they could poison the tree.
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    Seems like a fair and positive stance on both counts for ronde and Talib. Now we wait and see how the latter goes. I see Ronde back one mo time.
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    Did he take defending his sister to far yes...if the facts are enough to convict him he will do jail time if not...i will welcome him back...cancer??...freaking best corner weve had since Barber...you don't let that go unless you have too...if the coach sat down with him and didn't have negative thoughts about it...good enough...if it wasn't for Talib we wouldn't have won any games last year...Play maker all around!
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    I would like to clarify Erick25 Soundoff. If Talib was offered something as a plea down it would has been for "Class A Misdemeanor for firing the gun whether it was his or his Mothers. If he had admitted to that and taken that plea down then the NFL would have suspended him along with the Bucs and thus none of that money he made in 2011 would have been available to pay for his present attorney fees. I am incorrect in saying in the past that Talib fired his gun at his ex sisters boyfriend. I re-read the Dallas Morning News Article, and it said that Talib's sister ex boyfriend took the gun away from Talib after Talib had arrived at the scene and had come out of car with with a gun hand and starting threatening his sisters ex boyfriend. Witnesses said that Talib and his Mother both fired his mothers gun at the fleeing ex sisters boyfriend. Talibs ex sister boyfriend was not a saint either and was arrested on other past charges.
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    It would be a horrible move by coaching and especially the front office to just let Talib go.. if anything trade him, but with his skill set and maybe with the new regime, we can possiby get more out of Talib than we have in the past. like consistency. I hope we get to keep him and pick up a CB or two in FA. i say we draft a couple of LB and a RB and use FA to fill the holes for hte next coupl eof years. Go Bucs.. VT Bucs I agree.. i have always wanted to make Barber a FS or SS. he pretty much plays run stopper for us anyways and is arguably the best tackler on our team. with his instincts and knowledge of the game I think he could be great until 40!
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    Coach Schiano isn't asking our opinion on what should be done with Talib. That decision has been made. The court can now make it's decision. I will accept both. Courts determine guilt or innocence, Coaches determine how to best win a football game, and Reverends, Rabbis, and Priests determine if your conduct gets you into heaven.Talib has an impressive 17 INTs and 3 defensive TDs in 4 NFL seasons. Let's let everbody do their job!!
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    No more Talib...and no more Biggers! Draft Claiborne and use Barber as the nickel. "The Bucs have $67 million of salary cap space, the most of any team" according to the Tampa Tribune. That should be enough to get some good FAs and be an immediate contender this year.
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    Well the new head coach shoots from the hip. I would bring back both cb's. And give him one more chance, and BARBER I SAY HE IS MR. BUC WITH THE NEW COACHING STAFF IN PLACE. AND IF tAMPA DOES GET ONE OR TWO GOOD CB FROM THIS DRAFT, WITH THE TWO OTHER CB'S WILL MAKE THE CB A VERY GOOD STRENGTH. i ALSO SAY IF cLAILBORNE IS NOT THEIR AT 5. tHEN i THINK tAMPA WOULD TRADE DOWN TO GET i SAY THAT lb FROM bOSTON COLLEGE, AND PICK UP A PICK OR 2 TO PUT PLAYERS ON THE FIELD. oR JUST STAYED PUT AND GET THREE TOP IMPACT PLAYERS WITH THOSE 3 HIGH PICKS. o bucs glh
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    I know Ronde could play Nickel but I wonder if Schiano would be willing to move him to FS or SS?? It probably could lengthen his career a few more years.
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    PR, Do everybody here a favor and post the actual police report from which the upcoming trial is based. (I read it last year but can't find the link). What you and every other media outlet is reporting does not remotely resemble what's in that report. The only person that said Talib had a gun was the pedophile. The other dozen witnesses said they never saw him with a gun. The main witness is a retired cop from the Boston area, he says he never saw him (25) with a gun. If you can find that report and post it, your readers will be shocked at the divergence of the reporting on this matter and what the police actually know. It's why they (Prosecutors) offered him a misdemeanor charge last year and he declined. Do I think he's a great guy, no. Are the images of him on the sideline disturbing, yes. But not nearly as disturbing as watching EJ Biggers dive at shoes laces all year. Free Talib, draft Claiborne and let's blitz our way to some wins. PR, get that report!!!
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    Hahaha! Well said Erick25. I dont think any of us can take more Biggers in 2012.
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    Horse, The NFL Commisioner will not suspend him if not found guilty. If he pleads to a lesser charge or take a plea bargain then yes he will be suspended. If I haven't seen him suspend someone just because. Ben Raplesburger charges were drop due to the fact that the witness didn't want to go to trial, but since everyone knew the event actually did happen he was suspended.
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    Sneedy16, there is no difference here. He will be suspended because he had a gun and he fired it.
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    In this country, an individual still is innocent until proven guilty. Time will tell whether Talib broke the law and whether good coaching, which he's never had can make a difference. Shiano has made the right call.
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    buddah, That bull crap and you know it. He walking because of the money, not because he is not guilty. The man is guilty; he fired a gun at an unarmed man running away from him that was zero threat to him. It is not one of those "stand your ground " laws. I am sure the scum bag attorney will try to make it that way in the name of his client.
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    Well Mark, I couldn't disagree with you more about Talib. Will he get off? Probably yes. Why? He will pay off the witnesses and the person he shot at; plain and simply. So what does make him? A typical rich person who can buy there way out of most things. The NFL Commissioner; thank God will not buy into any of that crap. He will suspend him for a few games. So what is Talib really worth? I don't think that much at this point unless the Owners, GM, Coach wants to gamble and resign Talib to an additional one year contract now. Has he seen the light as to what he did wrong? No he hasn't and it is disgusting that some of you don't see this as a big issue in our society. Time to let him go; seriously? I do agree with you Mark about Barber. He's the kind of character we want and are willing to keep despite being past his prime. I do think it will all be about the money though. So if I was the Bucs, I would offer him senior back up salary and if there's another team who think he is worth more then find and dandy, but I don't think anybody wants a 37 year old CB for just a years worth of use. Sorry Rhonde but that's the way I feel and it is my opinion. Please stay and play; we need your leadership, experience and you are still a decent back up to the CB starters and a nickel back.
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    "So what does make him? A typical rich person who can buy there way out of most things. " - geez Horse, quite a statement. So you hate rich people. How original. Why don't we keep our comments to Talib and leave out the pejoratives about the productive class of society. If you want to slag off an entire class of people, then go hang out in the Occupy Wall Street board. Talib is a crap sandwich. We all agree...even rich people agree.
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    First of all, they are not going to cut Talib now; if they were they would have done so already. Secondly, he has no trade value before the outcome of the trial is known. However, the fact that his trial date is March 26th (according to TBO.com) puts the Bucs in a bind. That is 2 weeks after free agency opens, and if we are to believe that the Bucs are willing to spend money on free agents, the top cornerbacks will be long gone. If I were making the decision, I would go after one of the best corners on the market, in order of preference: Brandon Carr, Cortland Finnegan, Carlos Rogers, Brent Grimes, and Richard Marshall. If Talib is found guilty, then Talib is obviously done and the Bucs should then take Morris Claibore if he's available at number 5. Bring Ronde back to play nickel and suddenly the CB position is greatly strengthened. If Talib is cleared of the charges, that gives the Bucs options. They could try to trade him for a draft pick this year (New England's number 48 in round 2?) since the verdict will be in before the draft, keep him and let him EARN a spot, or simply cut him to set an example. Mark, are you reading this?
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    First of all are you really a retina doc? Locally? I have a recently diagnosed CRVO, would love your opinion! In response to your post the Barber situation will be resolved by Talib's trial date and I don't think the Bucs will worry about the outcome of Talib when entering free agency. If they can get one, or two they want, they will probably mean they go a different direction with the five pick. So having Talib available, or if it so works out would be a bonus. I'm no lawyer (obviously) but I would almost expect some sort of plea deal. With a plea deal though I think he still feels the wrath of the NFL and would be looking at at least four games. That's just me speculating but I doubt it goes to full trial. So basically we agree. Go hard in FA, hopefully Ronde comes back, and you get Talib back at some point.
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    Hopefully - Ronde comes back, and Aquib does not.
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    After watching 10 minutes of the 2011 E.J. biggers highlight reel, the decision to bring back Talib was a no-brainer!
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    Anyone with a brain would think twice about keeping a cancer like that in the locker room when you're trying to start a new tradition with a broken team.
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    I agree "Stratobuc" He's a good player but not worth the headaches! Trade him now while you still can. It will also let everyone on the team know what time it is......Go Bucs!
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    Talib should be cut - immediately. I know that coach Schiano wants to give everyone a fair shake, but Talib has proven over and over he is not a team player. He is a suspension waiting to happen, and its best to part ways with him now before the real rebuilding begins.
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