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May 21, 2012 @ 9:06 am
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UPDATED WITH QUOTES: Winslow Says Bucs Will Trade Him

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Veteran Bucs tight end Kellen Winlsow told Sirius XM's Opening Drive radio show today that head coach Greg Schiano told him that the Buccaneers are moving in a different direction and the former Miami Hurricane star would be traded.
Kellen Winslow doesn’t speak to the media often but when he does, he usually has a point to make. Winslow certainly made an interesting point Monday morning when as a guest on Sirius XM NFL Radio he announced he wouldn’t be back in Tampa Bay in 2012 and most likely will be traded.

Winslow told Sirius that head coach Greg Schiano personally told him over the weekend that Tampa Bay was going in a different direction at the tight end position.

"I just got back into Tampa and was told they were not looking for my services this year," Winslow said. "He said he would help me out with a trade – that's kind of shocking, but that's what it is."

PewterReport.com reported earlier this year that the possibility of Winslow being traded had been discussed, and feelers had been put out to other teams to determine his potential trade value. One source cited the dynamic of Winslow’s practice habits versus expectations by new head coach Greg Schiano as a reason for a potential trade. Since arriving in Tampa Bay from Cleveland via a trade in 2009, Winslow has practiced sparingly, as little as once per week due to a knee injury that occurred while he was a member of the Browns organization that has required six subsequent surgeries.

Schiano prefers that all players practice on a regular basis, and that has created some conflict with Winslow, who missed some of the voluntary OTA (organized team activity) workouts at One Buccaneer Place, which began last week.

Winslow confirmed that the lack of participation is last week's OTAs was a factor.

"He said he was – you know – kind of upset I wasn't there working out with the team in the offseason," Winslow said. "But look, I have been there the last three years and I have had a successful career so far. You just don't get rid of one of your best players because of that.

"I have nothing bad to say about coach Schiano. I have been training in San Diego. I was going to start training for the season today in Tampa. I got the call on Saturday they are looking for someone else."

Another factor associated with his potential departure came just after Schiano was hired in late January. Winslow was a guest on SiriusXM NFL Radio and told the hosts he would have preferred Carolina offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski as the Bucs’ new head coach because Chudzinski coached Winslow at the University of Miami and the two have a personal history together.

ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported on Monday that the Buccaneers have worked out former Colts tight end Dallas Clark and may sign him this week. PewterReport.com suggested two weeks ago that Clark was a possible replacement if Tampa Bay decided to part ways with Winslow. Clark recently worked out for New England, and has drawn interest from Kansas City, but has not signed a contract.

Winslow had a solid season in 2012, catching 75 passes for 763 yards but only two touchdowns. In his career as a Buccaneer, Winslow has 218 receptions for 2,595 yards and 12 touchdowns.

Winslow is set to earn $3.3 million in 2012, $4.5 million in 2013 and $5.5 million in 2014.

The Buccaneers currently list Luke Stocker, Zach Pianalto, Chase Coffman, Collin Franklin, Drake Dunsmore and Danny Noble listed as rostered tight ends.

Last modified on Monday, 21 May 2012 13:05
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    Isn't it awesome......how much Scubog knows, for the all of us. On Winslow, or otherwise. We all....shouldn't listen to local reporters over years, that feed into PFT reports or anything.....lets just all ask Scubog, anything on anybody. He'll give us our opinion on "soldiers".........or otherwise.
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    We all knew this was coming. (reference T-Jax) are u that stupid to think u weren't gone next? Evidently u didn't plan on being there. If u haven't noticed EVERYONE THATS ON THIS TEAM IS ALREADY @ CAMP! I dont know if this would have happened if Clark wasn't available,but it would have happened next year for sure. Next on house cleaning list TALIB. Hes gone next year @ the latest. Why is it that a good number of our best players r problem children? Some of u might be happy about whats goin on but ITS GONNA TAKE ME SOME TIME TO OVER THIS.............OK IM OVER IT! LETS GO
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    OH HAPPY DAY !!! I knew coach wouldnt stand for this clowns attitude fer long.. He has plenty of time now to enroll in motorcycle safety courses with Bobby Petrino ! Dallas Clark is a nice add~im already saying "Kellen Who ?"... Nice move Bucs and nice move coach...
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    HIP HIP HOORAY! The over-hyped prima donna is going to be an ex Buc! I was beginning to like what Schiano was doing. Now I love it.
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    None of us know what kind of teammate Winslow was during his three years as our most productive receiver. Not being able to practice with his teammates on a consistent basis is, as Gruden would say, "well documented". But how it may have negatively affected the team chemistry has never been publicized. I was always curious as to why he was never voted a team captain or demonstrated the type of leadership his famous last name would suggest. Having been to every home game during # 82's tenure he was always one of the first players out and one of the last players to go in for pre-game warm-ups working on his craft over and over again. My impression was always that he was somewhat of a loner but I never thought he didn't love the game. I thought there must be a reason why there are currently seven TE's on the roster and make that eight with the reported addition of Dallas Clark. Now if Dominik can pull off another Key Johnson for Joey Galloway type of trade we'll be just fine. After all, we could line up with Scubog at TE and still lose the last 10 games of the season. And starting at TE from the University of Tampa, Scuuuuuuuuuuubog!
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    Reports are saying Dallas Clark has signed with Bucs!
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    Hey Scott, I just read the Cowboys' Mike Jenkins wants to be traded. I feel like that would be a perfect straight up trade for both teams getting the hometown corner fron USF. How possible is that idea?
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    If Tampa could sign Dallas Clark He would be a great pickup and Winslow could leave fast,as gfar as Iam concerned.HE THINKS HE IS A PRIMA DONNA EVERSINCE HE ARRIVE. I HOPE AGAIN CLARKE WOULD WORK OUT HERE GO BUCS
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    Wow could be quietest 70-plus/ 3-years of catches I don't remember. I will say that D. Clark in his peak 3-years averaged two to three times more scores than Winslow so maybe he will be better for us after the catch around the redzone.
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    As some have said, this case of Winslow being gone is not about Dallas Clark at all, as a replacement. Apples, oranges. This IS about many reports that Free felt pressured to get the loudmouth, with serious knee problems--both knees--the ball in certain crunch times. Plus, even some one with half a brain and class, like a Fitzgerald, Jason Witten, Calvin Johnson....knows when their is a NEW coaching staff entirely, you get your A*S to the team facility on the first possible day, especially, when the last 3 years of your contract are NON-guaranteed. Plus, we didn't run the ball NEARLY as much as we will going forward, so many of those smaller chances that Winslow capitalized on in years past, simply won't be there as much, thus 1 or 2 serviceable TE's might just do, plus the cap savings of Winslow gone.
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    Addition by subtraction. Winslow's attitude and demeanor on the field always irked me, and I'm not one who normally cares about such things. His stats last season were a mirage, volume numbers because somebody had to make the meaningless catches when the team was down by twenty in the 4th quarter. The Bucs are not losing an irreplaceable Pro bowl TE. They are losing an average TE who is on the downward side of his career.
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    K2 was brought in to be a comfort, go to guy for Freeman. That was a good choice then. Now we have film of K2 verbally chastising Free on Sunday last year. There's a reason nobody came to TO's workout & it wasn't his age. If you're not working with Free, you're working against him.
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    K2's production will be missed, but if it comes true, this is a good statement to make for the coach to a young team. You can't be a team leader if you don't practice often or well. Hope they can get a draft pick for him, in any round.
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    I sure hope there is some real substance behind cutting a guy with the production Winslow had here in Tampa. It seems like it may be more hurt feelings than anything. When you lose the production of guys like Jackson who was quietly the best playmaker in an awful secondary and Winslow the only constant during Freeman's first 3 years in Tampa it better be for good reasons. I say there should have been a sit down with both players before it got to this point. Your responsibility as a coach is to bring it all together and make it work not cut everyone who doesnt show up to Voluntary minicamp or chooses to rehab in seperate cities for awhile until the offseason becomes mandatory. With young players I agree this should be monitored but in the case of Winslow a PROVEN veteran who has NEVER had a conditioning issue and has played in EVERY game since his arrival i think him being cut is ABSURD. Especially if we are doing so with the hope of bringing in a 34 yr old Dallas Clark who hasn't stayed healthy the past 2 years. Just what we need, someone else who wont be able to stay out of the trainers office. I have loved everything that has been done this offseason far but this move absolutely stinks!
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    How do you sit down with someone who doesn't show up?
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    Looks like a lot of 3-wides this year for the Bucs! We probably will be running a lot of 3-wides anyway since we most likely will be coming from behind in many games until we get the defense shored up more the following year. Don't really understand the interest in Dallas Clark. The guy has not caught more than 40 balls in the last two years with the injuries he has had; no different than Winslow as far as scoring, lack of blocking and injury issues. This must be primarily about the money savings on the cap and getting a veteran leader in camp for all the rookies.
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    I liked K2. I'm not sure what everyone was expecting when we first traded for him but he's been everything I was expecting. He had the best hands on the team, he averaged about 750 yards/season while he was here (about the same as when he was with Cleveland) and he started all 16 games every year he was here (better than Cleveland). He never got in trouble off the field and he wasn't a locker room cancer (both better than Cleveland). He couldn't block in Cleveland and he can't block now. Oh and every single solitary offensive pass interferance call he got the last two years was complete bull$#!%. But, like Bucdiezel90 said, I'm okay with trading or cutting Winslow only if we get D. Clark. Clark is just as good if not better as both a player and leader compared to Winslow. Thanks for performing as advertised for the Bucs K2 and good luck to ya!
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    Well it doesn't really take someone on the inside to have predicted this one. The coach has an expectation you practice every day, and one player (Winslow) cannot offer that. I think most have seen this day coming. I did not like the trade from day one, but the Bucs have not had an elite TE and appear to always struggle to find them. Here's to hoping the next shot at getting it right actually works. Sign Clark. It's a good replacement with this WR core.
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    People hoping for a good draft pick for Kellen: there is 0 chance of that. The Bucs will try to trade him and, ultimately, probably just release him. There is not high demand for a good (not great) 29 year-old TE with bad knees and a huge contract (he's the highest paid player at his position in football). Best case is a 5th round pick. And I don't see that happening. If we trade him (which I don't think we will - he'll be released) then it will be for a 6th or 7th rounder. Asante Samuel, a better player with a more favorable injury at a more important position, was traded for a 6th rounder. Stop dreaming about day 1 or 2 draft picks in exchange for Kellen "the soldier" Winslow.
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    Aww come on, "4 yards and attitude" ain't gonna work round here no more? Fine by me. With all that practice he misses year in year out, he really defines what it means to be a Weekend Warrior....or soldier.....oh yeah we can always go back to that line for a good laugh.
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    Got to give some credit to Horse. He was beating the drum for Winslow's dismissal for some time. (and he's probably right about Briscoe too.) I don't know if the Bucs' got better as a winning football team today. But as a unit, a mentality, a team, I think they got much better. I really like what I'm seeing from the Sciano order. No diva's, no excuses. Team unity with a purpose is an elusive element lots of very talented teams are still searching for. The Dallas Cowboys for example. Seeing the Bucs' give up last year was an unimaginable sight for this long time fan. If I hadn't seen it, I wouldn't have believed it. I never want to see it again. This off-season is reassuring. --- Not waving a flag or standing on a soapbox, if I'm wrong I'll apologize; I think it's encouraging that Talib is still on this team during the weed out process. Encouraging along the lines of: as hard as good CB's are to find. I confess that I hope optimistically for Talib's success. I want the Bucs' to win, but also to nurture young men like it did during the Dungy years. Yes, I realize that's a lot of pressure to put on a new head-coach, but so far so good.
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    New coach, a very young team, might as well find your future tight ends now. Schiano believes in getting better with practice, and repeating things over until it's second nature. Winslow just can't practice at that pace. This will help Josh, he won't feel like he has to get the ball to a guy who he didn't practice with all week. Yeah I know we're talking about "practice", but it's what this young team needs, and lots of it.
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    Clark is certainly not a long term solution at TE, but he has forgotten more about playing TE than a lot of players will ever know. He should be an excellent leader/teacher for our young TEs and I'm guessing he can still find the deep seam in a zone. The Bucs had sort of worked out a customized workout system for certain individual players. It may have been good for those individual players, but not good for team unity. Everyone knows that misery shared equally creates the best teams. Esprit D'corps!!! I hope we get a good draft pick for K2. As arrogant as he is, he's still a very good player. If he could go to the Chargers that would be ideal for him I'm sure. I wonder if Chase Coffman may be a pleasant surprise just waiting to spring forth as well. Coffman won the John Mackey award his senior year at Mizzou. If he can stay well, we could have a steal there. Now Josh won't be under pressure to throw to the TE and the ball can be spread around more evenly.
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    I think Schiano and Dominik knew before the draft that they would not keep Winslow. It was pretty obvious to me. I doubt they will get anything for him. I imagine Briscoe is on his way out the door too. So far Talib is hanging in there; maybe he has found the Buccaneer Way. Go Bucs!
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    I can admit you were right about Kellen. I didn't think that they needed to release him since the offense would be better with him in it, but I guess the coach saw it different. It wasn't his attitude, it was just in the coaches eyes he wasn't a team player.
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    i guess if you're greg schiano and you know before the season that winslow will lead your team in missed practices and offensive pass interference penalties, it's easy to see why you'd try to move on from a player. and getting vincent jackson is a good way to make sure your QB doesn't miss winslow. i'm still not sure who goes out there at TE in a heavy package to run block, though
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    despite being 5 years older, heavily utilized his whole career, and coming off of injury, it's STILL possible clark's knees are in better shape than winslows. what a career that guy might have had if he wasn't a complete idiot on that motorcycle early on
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    Can't say the move bothers me IF we sign Clark. But even if we get Clark, his is 33 and coming off a serious injury. So he would only be a year or two long answer. If we for some reason can't get Clark and end up just having to cut Winslow then I think were screwed at tight end.
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