I do not understand this move. Take one of the best options and checkdown guy from Freeman and sign Dallas Clark who is a shadow of Dallas Clark 3 years ago when HOF QB Peyton Manning was inflating his receiving numbers. Dallas Clark will fair no better as a Buc than say Patrick Hape. So we exchanged K2 for Patrick Hape. Patrick Hape was a good locker room guy too, and a below average player, although Hape was a better blocker than Clark.

K2 is gone. A productive player but not a superstar. The new regime will be here for at least a couple of years. It's obvious Winslow didn't fit into whatever parameters Schiano has in mind so why deal with the drama this (or next) year. Cut bait and get what you can - which apparantly wasn't much since Winslow being up for sale was not that big of a secret (does that say sometihing about his overall worth in the NFL or what). So, the rest of the TE's need to step up or we have a "position of need" in next year's draft. The Bucs are a work in progress folks - not having K2's production this upcoming season won't make that much of a difference.

Scubog....blessin us with his omniscience.......

As I expected there have been and will continue to be a lot of changes. New coaching staff, aquitition of some top free agents,, elimination of some once key players, some great footwork in the draft, but most of all a new head coaching philosophy. I truly think the dink and dunk days are over. I think Freeman will develop without having Winslow in his head all the tine. Finally I believe this is at least a two year transformation and anyone who gets too impatient or too preoccupied with any one part of the change is going to be frustrated for the next few seasons. I for one am enjoying this rebuilding period. We will have a better team when its done. Go Bucs......

With Dallas Clark (2002 John Mackey winner) and Chase Coffman (2008 John Mackey winner) on the same team. Now if Clark can help develop Coffman in addition to his own production......wouldn't that be nice? Luke Stocker is half the TE combo no matter what. I like it!!!

Dallas Clark won the John Mackey Award (presented to college footballs' top TE) coming out Iowa in 2002. Not a bad feat for a walk on for the Hawkeyes to a first round draft pick. It is fitting to note that Dallas Clark holds several Colts receiving records by a TE because he had to move past John Mackey to get them. John Mackey still holds the total yards receiving record 5236 to Clark's 4887. But Clark holds the total receptions record for a TE at 427 to Mackey's 331 and Clark holds the Colts' Total TDs for a TE record at 46 to 38 by Mackey. Clark caught his passes from Peyton Manning while Mackey caught his passes from a 17th round draft pick.....NAMED JOHNNY UNITAS!!!! This comparison/contrast makes me realize how much the game has changed over the years. Mackey was a 2nd round pick out of Syracuse in 1963 and at 6'2" 230 LBs was considered a bull at TE. He could run a 4.6 40 which was elite speed back then and he shed DBs like they were flies. Mackey was without a doubt one of the best and most exciting football players I ever watched play. At 6'3" 250 Lbs in today's game Dallas Clark is considered undersized for a TE and he was used in a much more sophistocated passing scheme than Mackey was. The word for Dallas Clark is NIFTY. He knows how to get open and especially in the red zone. The speed of today's defenses is much faster and the schemes are much more sophistocated. I have watched Dallas Clark for a lot of years and I would say his ability to get open and make the catch is uncanny. Bucs made a positive move here and I think he still has quite a few more catches left in him too. I didn't see the train coming on Winslow but I should have knowing Schiano like I do. K2 was a distraction and maybe too much about K2 over the team. Word from ESPN is the Bucs got a 7 that can be upgraded to a conditional 6 based on K2's play for Seattle this season. I guess the biggest hurdle is K2's contract which the Seahawks either assumed or renegotiated.

What are the Bucs doing? We needed a Prima Donna TE, with one good knee, that has lost a step, and can't block, but won't practice and is the second highest paid at his position. Right? Who's with me? This reminds me of the Simeon Rice release, where we looked at his overall body of work and past contributions instead of his current player evaluation. I do think the compensation is too low, I would have at least traded for the equivalent pick that Dallas wants for CB Jenkins then trade for Jenkins.

I have mixed feelings on this I like K2 as a player on the field, I didn't like his attitude. Not sure how this will translate but I think we in essence just cut him when you trade him for a 7th rounder.

No doubt Winslow was a good tight end, but at this point his lone wolf persona and his knowledge that he had been on he block, just The fact he'd been there and no one wanted him should be a sign. The team is young, it's veterans on the field to help. Clark played great football in Indy with Peyton. His efforts for the bucs were great, but it's time to move. And only getting a 7th for him, of no one wanted him due to his supposed bad personality or his contract, we would have cut him. I'll take a draft pick over nothing, regardless of the round.

Yes he was our best T.E., but that didn't stop us from finishing 4 12. It's a new day in Tampa, this is what we all wanted a coach who won't tolerate any B.S., so let coach do his thing, then judge the results after a couple of seasons. You're either a Buccaneer man, and do things the Buc way, or you're gone. That's a pretty simple rule for all to follow.

I would have to agree with Stlbucfan. Although, I am not a big Winslow fan, he would surely perform on gameday. I agree with Schaino wanting to take control of his team by making examples of a few. K2, was a very good tight end on a very bad team last year. Let's stop hating on players (coaches) just because they are no longer on the team. If we are going to do that would someone please bring up Greg Olsen's horrible play calling, and our pathetic GM from last year. Oh, I forgot! We gave the GM a clean slate too.

stlbucsfan and buccup56 I wholeheartedly agree...except for the line about reeks of a college football coach. I don't mind so much the trading of Winslow (especially since we picked up Clark) as I do the bashing of K2 now that he's gone. Winslow never got DUI's, never got in a fight in a club and never mouthed off about getting enough passes thrown his way while he was with the Bucs. His bad reputation is completely based on off of what he did in Cleveland. By the logic of some of you based on Freeman trying too hard to force the ball to his best receiver I guess the Falcons should trade Roddy White. M. Ryan is always trying to force the ball to him which is why they always get blown away in the playoffs.

College coaches love the ability to control their players every move and when they dont get in line they simply get rid of the kid. The NFL is based off of a balance. Bill Belicheck who I think no one can question has been known for taking chances on players with some sketchy histories but have immense talent i.e Moss and Haynesworth and making decisions based off of PRODUCTION and PERFORMANCE not attendance during voluntary pratices. I think Schiano brings a much needed change but if he thinks cutting K2 for a player that Peyton didnt want was a good move, then hes sadly mistaken. Bc lets be honest if Dallas Clark was anywhere near the player he was in Indy he'd be wearing a Bronco uni and not our beloved pewter. And I leave it with this....if anyone can show me an article about K2 doing anything negative since hes been a Buc ill stankd corrected but ive never seen and neither has anyone else. I think K2's time with Butch Davis in Cleveland has affected Schiano's decision making and I think its a shame. Good Luck Winslow!

Practice.....Practice!!! Remember that from Alan Iverson? Winslow is no different. If he can't practice with his team, it's past due the time he moves on. Dallas Clark for Kevin Winslow makes for a better BUCS team and I applaud our head coach and Dominik for making this move. GO BUCS!!!

Can someone please explain to me why there is such a thing as an "undisclosed" draft pick. That's just stupid. These deals should all be out in the open from the beginning. Who are they trying to hide this info from and why? Ludicrous (not the rapper)

Disagree with you Buccup56, time will tell though; think this is totally a strategic roster move while we stilll could get some kind of value as well as a move toward better team cohesiveness and leadership. I could not remember a more quiet 70+ catch tight end last year than Winslow. His catches nor his large salary cap number did much to bring us more victories. It also limits us from grabbing another DE which I think we need much more than a receiver/TE, which we effectively now have with the 6-5 Vincent Jackson!

There is supposedly one other player not present...Briscoe. Could someone please enlighten us as to the reason?

dre8334, Doesn't mean much because the new CBA does not require veterans to attend OTAs. All OTAs are voluntary. The new CBA has 1 mandatory practice before training camp and that's the mandatory mini-camp scheduled for June 12-14. FYI, the CBA requires 1 out of every 3 OTA days be open to the media and all 3 days of the mandatory mini-camp must be open to the media. They are all unpadded practices and cannot last longer than 3 hours a day. A 4th hour may be used, but can only be a walk-through. Finally , your answer - Dez Briscoe is at practice this week!

Not happy with this move at all, how do you justify getting rid of a top 5 te for a bag of balls someone please explain that me. Schaonio and the Bucs made a huge mistake on this one in my opinion. K2 numbers is a good reason to keep him ppl are who they are not who you want to be. As long as they are doing with they are gettin paid to do. Once again not happy with this move. It will kill us down the rode this season. No knock on Clark I think he's a great player but I just rather have k2 at this point of his career.

For the complaining about Freeman felt "pressured" to throw the ball to K2 and he was a bad locker room guy. Where o where have any of you heard this bc it sure hasnt been from the team. My assumption is that he forced the ball to K2 bc maybe he was the only one working to get open or wasnt busy dropping passes like Mike Williams. Kellen didnt practice when he was here but we always knew that. I think its pretty pathetic to take shots at a player who literally gave all he had when he was down here now that hes gone. He set Tampa Bay single season records for receptions and yards by a TE upon arrival so you guys really need to get a grip. The fact that some of you hold his production last year against him is assinine. Really....last year...well hell if thats the case I assume the same ppl that are excited that K2 left should also be calling for Freemans head bc he played worse than most Qbs in the league last year. But since most everyone seems happy about K2's departure lets see how many balls he "forces" to Dallas Clark on the sideline this year. The Bucs need to go acquire Jenkins from Dallas and a DE to put in the rotation with Bennett and Claiborne instead of cutting PROVEN, HARD WORKING, TALENTED players like K2....this move reeeeks of a college football coach...but we shall see!

Folks keep mentioning K2's production ...I'm sorry but when I look at K2, especially the K2 we saw last year, I don't see where that "production" meant that much. It seemed to me a large number of his catches where dump passes that got us to 4th and 2 instead of a 1st down. Plus I felt all season long that Freeman looked at Winslow as his only option too much ...probably due to Winslow always in his ear. I look at this as addition by subtraction. Yes we may have lost 20-30 catches from the TE position ...but maybe we can ADD 20-30 catches to the WR position now for better results.

I had always thought that the training format for K2 was based on his ability to respond to treatment for his injuries and that not over pushing him was good for his recovery. I think in the new regime that was simply not going to get it done. He was a great player for us, and his production over all was impressive. I think when he went public with private conversations with Coach, his future with the team was over. You have to be impressed how the Bucs put this behind them so quickly. Players who don't fit are gone in a blink of an eye. If I was McCoy, Black, Williams, Talib or Benn I would be taking notice. Your draft position doesn't matter. Your production two yrs ago doesn't matter. You better be ready to play and keep yourself out of trouble.

When one looks purely at the on field comparison between Winslow and Clark the past three seasons there is none. K2 far exceeded the production of the former Colt. Apparently what some fans want is a player for whom they just like their personality better. Of course they probably never met either of these men to know. My take is that Coach Schiano wanted a veteran TE for their room, just not Winslow and his "lone wolf" style. Dallas Clark may be that guy, if he can still play at a reasonable level or even make the final 53 man roster. But, the deed is done. Time to move on. We now have seven tight ends on the roster. If each one catches just ten passes they will replace # 82. Let's hope Dallas Clark is just getting his second wind and not his last gasp.

I'm a huge Dallas Clark fan. I cant wait to see him catching passes in a Bucs uniform. I can't stand Winslow or the attitude he has carried with him on and off the field for years. I could care less if Clark is 32 years old. He's a great player who not only has a few more solid years left in him, but will be a mentor for Stocker. I'm willing to bet Winslow wasn't Stocker's role model last season. The following message is for Mr. Winslow Jr. - Stop complaining about how you're under-utilized and should have more receptions and TD's. Be humble, shut up, and try to be part of the hawk family before you're once again labeled as an "individual." I promise its your last chance.

Ok guys...I agree with ya's and those are all great points, but i just learned that we got a 7th, yes that is a 7th round conditional pick with the option of possibly becoming a 6th from the Hawks for his services...WTF!!?? Are we really so stock full of talent especially at his position that we can let his 75 catches and 5 to 10 touchdowns a season walk for a 7th round pick???!!! Somebody really wouldn't have come off even a 5th round for him?? This has the potential to be a disasterous move for the Bucs..especially if Clark doesn't make it the whole season which odds are not in his favor of doing...STUPID PERSONEL MOVES make their return to One Buc...and they were off to such a good start...not a fan of Winslow's attitude..but his production?? In a league where even the rookie head coach acknowledges that it's win NOW, this was STUPID...a 7th round pick..REALLY DOMINIK???...when you're the guy that brought him here?? Betcha money they're loving this in Seatlle and singing praises to Buc's management on this one...with their other pro-bowl tight end already on their roster as well...

I think Dominick did well given the circumstances. He was able to move an aging, chronically-hurt TE who everyone knew would have to be released in exchange for a draft pick next year, in addition to moving his entire contract with him. Most teams would have waited for him to be released. While I agree the team put themselves in a poor negotiating situation by making this so public/known, MD did well to get anything in return, without any potential cap hit as well.

well we will see how this turns out. I like dallas clark but hope its not late in his career to make a difference. winslow has done some good things in tampa but I dont think his contributions were that significant. he may have been part of the problem last year!! he never practices and just wasnt clutch enough for me

Hey I'm the first to post on this one..cool beans...Everybody here that read the Winslow's days numbered article know my feelings on signing Clark over Visanthe Schiancoe...however...simce the Bucs signed Clark to a one year deal and recently lost D Bowers...how bout bringing in another Colt by the name of Dwight Freeny...another consumate pro??? If the Bucs got Freeny or traded for Osi Y... I'd feel better about the Clark signing....but thats just me...GO BUCS!!!!!

I'm glad K2 is gone. I appreciate his contributions to the team while here, but I grew more and more tired of watching him kick and slap at people after he was tackled. He is a poor sport, selfish and obviously not in the mold of what a Buc is supposed to be. Go Bucs!