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December 9, 2012 @ 5:27 pm
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Foles Leads 4th Quarter Comeback As Eagles Stun Bucs, 23-21

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UPDATED: Despite trailing 21-10 with 8:11 left in the fourth quarter, the Eagles rallied for a stunning, 23-21 win over the Bucs on the game's final play thanks to two TD passes from rookie QB Nick Foles to help Philadelphia snap an eight-game losing streak. The loss tainted the 10-year reunion of Tampa Bay's 2002 Super Bowl team and deals a blow to the Bucs' playoff hopes.
During the Buccaneers’ heyday in the 2000s, the Philadelphia Eagles proved tough to beat. Former Bucs head coach Tony Dungy was 0-3 against Philadelphia in 2000-01 and it cost him his job. Even under head coach Jon Gruden, the Bucs lost to Philadelphia during the 2002 regular season before Tampa Bay extracted some revenge in the 2002 NFC Championship Game en route to the team’s first and only Super Bowl championship.

Before a sold out crowd at Raymond James Stadium with Gruden and with the Buccaneers 2002 Super Bowl championship team in attendance for its 10-year reunion, Tampa Bay was trying to resume its role of Philly beaters against the 3-9 Eagles, but to no avail. Philadelphia built a 10-0 halftime lead thanks to a 10-yard touchdown run by rookie quarterback Nick Foles before trailing Tampa Bay 21-10 in the fourth quarter after the Bucs scored three straight touchdowns.

Yet the Eagles’ third-round pick in 2012 led two late touchdown drives, including the game-winner, which was a 1-yard TD strike to Jeremy Maclin, who had nine catches for 104 yards, as time expired to lift Philadelphia past Tampa Bay, 23-21. The stunning loss drops Tampa Bay to 6-7 on the season and essentially knocks the Bucs out of the playoff race, while the Eagles snapped an eight-game losing streak.

Despite being sacked six times by Tampa Bay, Foles was heroic while completing 32-of-51 passes for 381 yards with two touchdowns and no interceptions in leading the Eagles to a come-from-behind victory. Defensive tackle Gerald McCoy and defensive end Michael Bennett each had two sacks for the Bucs defensive line, which was dominant throughout the game, but couldn’t get Foles on the ground in the game’s final minute.

After Foles scrambled for three yards on fourth-and-1 down to the Tampa Bay 28, defensive lineman Daniel Te’o-Nesheim was flagged for being the 12th man on the field as the Eagles were attempting to spike the ball. That gave Philadelphia a first-and-5 situation at the Tampa Bay 23 with 35 seconds left. On third-and-5 from the 23 with 20 seconds left, Bucs cornerback Danny Gorrer dropped an interception on a pass intended for Marvin McNutt. That drop would prove costly as it could have ended the game and clinched a victory for Tampa Bay.

On fourth-and-5, Foles found wide receiver Jason Avant, who had killed the Bucs with seven catches for 133 yards, with a 22-yard strike down to the Tampa Bay 1 with seven seconds left. Foles spiked the ball with two seconds left before hitting Maclin with the game-winning pass in front of rookie cornerback Leonard Johnson as time expired.

“Throughout the game we had penalties,” said Bucs head coach Greg Schiano, noting that his team was flagged eight times for 60 yards. “We had our hands on some balls we just didn’t catch. At the end of the day we didn’t play well and we didn’t coach well enough and that falls on me.”

Foles clearly outplayed Bucs quarterback Josh Freeman, who had a horrible first half, completing just 5-of-16 passes for 61 yards. Freeman rebounded a bit in the second half and led the Bucs to three touchdowns, but never got in total rhythm as he finished the game completing just 14-of-34 passes for 189 yards with two touchdowns, including a 1-yard score to Mike Williams in the third quarter, and no interceptions.

“I’ll have to watch the tape,” Schiano said regarding Freeman’s errant throws. “He seemed to make some throws where he just didn’t seem himself.”

“I started off kind of slow,” Freeman said. “I felt pretty sharp and locked in, but there was the post to Mike and a couple other balls [that were missed]. It was frustrating.”

After catching two passes for 44 yards in the first half, Bucs wide receiver Vincent Jackson erupted in the second half and helped Freeman by hauling in gains of 28 and 40 yards, in addition to a 13-yard touchdown in the fourth quarter that put Tampa Bay up 14-10. Jackson finished the day with six catches for 131 yards and a touchdown. It was his fourth 100-yard game as a Buccaneer.

Rookie running back Doug Martin also got going in the second half. After being held to 34 yards on nine carries in the first half, Martin totaled 94 yards rushing in the second half and finished the day with 28 carries for 128 yards and a 4-yard touchdown that increased Tampa Bay’s lead to 21-10 with 7:21 left in regulation.

While the defense surrendered two fourth quarter touchdowns, Tampa Bay’s offense had a chance to salt the game away on third-and-8 from its own 33-yard line with 2:55 left. Instead of throwing the ball and trying to pick up the first down, Schiano called for a running play to Martin that was stopped for no gain. That play forced Philadelphia to use its last timeout with 2:51 left in regulation.

“That’s either a feast or famine run, but we just didn’t pop it,” Schiano said. “There’s two ways to play it – you can try to throw the ball or run the ball and make them use their timeout or let the clock tick. We put it on the defense and we didn’t get the stop. … At the end of the day we had too many mistakes to win an NFL football game.”

“At that point in time it was about getting Philly to burn their timeouts,” Freeman said. “Doug was popping some big runs. You can’t second guess that.”

Solid second-half performances by Jackson and Martin weren’t enough as Tampa Bay lost its third straight game and fell below .500. It could have been worse as the Bucs benefited from two missed field goals by Eagles kicker Alex Henery.

“Today Philly found more ways to make more plays than us,” Freeman said.

Tampa Bay will attempt to regain its winning ways in New Orleans next week and salvage any hope for at least a winning record with the playoffs now seemingly out of reach.

Second Quarter – Eagles 3, Buccaneers 0

After a scoreless first quarter, the Eagles got on the scoreboard first following a 33-yard, nine-play drive that culminated in a 28-yard field goal by Alex Henry. The big plays on the drive were a 20-yard, one-handed catch by Jason Avant on third-and-17 and an 11-yard run down to the Tampa Bay 9 by Bryce Brown. But the Bucs defense stiffened in the red zone and forced a field goal on third-and-10.

Second Quarter – Eagles 10, Buccaneers 0
The Eagles drove 80 yards before halftime to take a 10-0 lead following a 10-yard touchdown run on a QB bootleg by Nick Foles. The rookie quarterback was 5-of-5 for 66 yards, including a 39-yard strike to Avant on third-and-4 down to the Tampa Bay 10-yard line to set up Foles’ touchdown run.

Third Quarter – Eagles 10, Buccaneers 7
After Demaris Johnson muffed a punt at the Philadelphia 5-yard line, Bucs linebacker Dekoda Watson recovered for Tampa Bay, setting the team up with great field position. After a 4-yard run by running back Doug Martin, Josh Freeman hit wide receiver Mike Williams with a touchdown on third-and-1 to pull Tampa Bay to within three points as Philadelphia’s lead was trimmed to 10-7.

Fourth Quarter – Buccaneers 14, Eagles 10
The Buccaneers took the lead following a 10-play, 77-yard touchdown drive that culminated with Freeman hooking up with Vincent Jackson for a 13-yard touchdown. Jackson also had catches of six and 40 yards to move the chains and get the Bucs into scoring territory.

Fourth Quarter – Buccaneers 21, Eagles 10
Tampa Bay marched 75 yards in 11 plays for a touchdown to go up two scores. Martin rushed for 18 yards on three carries to set up a third-and-9 at the Tampa Bay 44 that Freeman converted with a 13-yard scramble. On third-and-7 from the Philadelphia 40, Freeman hit Jackson with a 28-yard pass down to the Philadelphia 12. After runs of five and three yards, Martin punched it in for four yards out to give the Bucs a 21-10 lead.

Fourth Quarter – Buccaneers 21, Eagles 16
Foles drove the Eagles 72 yards in 10 plays to pull within a touchdown. The big plays on the drive were a 24-yard screen pass to Maclin and a big 22-yard toss to Maclin on third-and-10 down to the Tampa Bay 26. On the next play, Foles connected with Avant for a 12-yard pass down to the Tampa Bay 14. Three plays later on third-and-7 from the Tampa Bay 11, Foles hit tight end Clay Harbor for a touchdown to pull Philadelphia within a touchdown of Tampa Bay. Foles’ two-point conversion pass was no good.

Fourth Quarter – Eagles 23, Buccaneers 21
Taking over at their own 32-yard line with 2:44 left, the Eagles marched 64 yards for the game-winning score. On third-and-14, Foles hit Maclin for a 23-yard gain down to the Tampa Bay 45. Maclin also came up with a 9-yard gain to set up fourth-and-1 at the Tampa Bay 31 and Foles converted that into a first down with a 3-yard scramble. Backup cornerback Danny Gorrer had a chance to end the game with an interception on third-and-5 from the Tampa Bay 23, but dropped Foles’ pass. On fourth-and-5, Foles hit Avant for a 22-yard gain down to the Bucs’ 1-yard line with two seconds left. On the game’s final play, Foles found Maclin in the front right corner of the end zone for the game-winner. The Bucs also helped the Eagles with two five-yard penalties on their final touchdown drive. Gorrer was flagged five yards for defensive holding and Daniel Te’o-Nesheim was penalized five yards for being the 12th man on the field.

Buccaneers defensive end Michael Bennett recorded two sacks and now has nine on the year, which is a personal best and leads the team. … Bucs defensive end Daniel Te’o-Nesheim, a former Eagle, got into the act with his third sack of the season. … Bucs rookie linebacker Lavonte David had his first career sack on Sunday as the Bucs totaled six sacks, their most in a game since their contest at San Francisco in 2010. … Tampa Bay punt returner Roscoe Parrish had his best day as a Buccaneer, returning four punts for 63 yards, including a season-long 30-yarder. … Bucs wide receiver Vincent Jackson finished the game with six catches for 131 yards and a touchdown. It was his fourth 100-yard game as a Buccaneer. … Rookie running back Doug Martin rushed for 128 yards on 28 carries and it was his fourth 100-yard game in the NFL. Martin broke Cadillac Williams’ rookie rushing mark of 1,178 yards set in 2005 and now has 1,234 yards rushing in 2012. Martin also rushed for his 10th career touchdown, which ranks third in team history behind Errict Rhett (11 in 1995) and James Wilder (13 in 1984).

Defensive tackle Gerald McCoy, who was a Buccaneers fan growing up in Oklahoma, was inspired by the presence of legendary Tampa Bay defensive tackle Warren Sapp and the 2002 Super Bowl championship team, which was celebrating its 10-year reunion at halftime of Sunday’s game, with his play today. PewterReport.com caught up with Sapp at halftime and asked him about McCoy’s big day and what inspirational words he said to the young Bucs defensive tackle.

“I told him I hadn’t been to this stadium in 10 years and he better put on a show today and make the trip worthwhile,” Sapp said.

McCoy did just that as he notched his fourth and fifth sacks of the season and his first QB capture since Week 3 against Dallas when he also posted two sacks of quarterback Tony Romo. McCoy had his best day in the NFL with five tackles, three tackles for loss, three quarterback pressures and two sacks, and is this week’s PewterReport.com Bucs MVP.

Bucs' inactives against the Eagles were: RB Michael Smith, LB Najee Goode, WR David Gilreath, WR David Douglas, CB LeQuan Lewis, DT Roy Miller and DT Matthew Masifilo.

Eagles’ inactives against the Bucs were: QB Michael Vick, WR Greg Salas, RB LeSean McCoy, RB Carlos Polk, S Kurt Coleman, DT Mike Patterson and OT Matt Kopa.

Bucs cornerback Anthony Gaitor was briefly shaken up in the first quarter, but returned to the game.

Tampa Bay defensive tackle Gerald McCoy hurt his right shoulder and left the game momentarily in the fourth quarter before returning.

• Schiano might be second-guessing his call to run the ball on third-and-8 with 2:51 left in the fourth quarter. Instead of trying to throw the ball for the first down, Doug Martin got stuffed for no gain and the Bucs had to punt the ball to the Eagles.

• Center Ted Larsen had two big penalties – a personal foul and a holding call – that cost Tampa Bay’s offense 25 yards.

• Tampa Bay was scoreless at halftime for the first time this season, and the offense totaled just 79 yards and converted only one third down (1-of-8 for 13 percent).

• Punter Michael Koenen only got off a 31-yard punt down to the Philadelphia 36-yard line late in the fourth quarter. Instead of pinning the Eagles deep for their final drive, Philadelphia had good field position to start their touchdown drive.

• The Bucs got flagged for a 12th man on the field call with 35 seconds left when defensive end Daniel Te’o Nesheim couldn’t get off the field prior to Nick Foles’ spiking the ball. What prompted the Bucs to substitute on a play in which the Eagles were going to naturally spike the ball? That penalty gave the Eagles an extra five yards.

• Cornerback Danny Gorrer had a chance to end the game with an interception, but dropped the ball on third-and-5 from the Tampa Bay 23 with less than 20 seconds left.

Tampa Bay (6-7) travels to New Orleans to play the Saints (5-8) on Sunday, December 16 at 1:00 p.m. The game will be televised on Fox.

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    There was some real positives to take away from this game. Our DL is not that bad. We are starting to see exactly what we need in Free Agency and the draft. We will be a 9-7 0r 10-8 team next year and all of this will be accompolished in less than 20 months. This is a good Coach and most of the coaching staff is good. The only problem I see is the inexperience in the coaching staff because most of them are in higher positions than ever before;thus time management and play calling adjustments need a lot more tweeking. Freeman looked bad at times, but some of it was the play calling too. Go Bucs! We move on now to the Saints.
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    Seems like the last few seasons, every time you think they're finally turning the corner, they start up a long losing streak. As soon as this season is over we need to pursue Alex Smith and run all them CLOWNS we call cornerbacks out of town. Freeman , is way to inconsistent, by now being a four year veteran , he should have done outgrown the mistakes he consistently makes. If we can't land Alex Smith, Matt Flynn should be a alternate choice. This is a quarterback driven league. We have no chance of outdoing Matt Ryan and the Falcons or Drew Brees and the Saints with what we have now. What difference does it make if we fight to the end , if our players are not worth a damn. ALEX SMITH ALL THE WAY BUCS.
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    Barry you're kidding right? Even as inconsistent Josh has been, Flynn couldn't beat him out for the starting job. He couldn't beat out Russell Wilson and I'm not saying anything bad about the rookie. Alex Smith is another Trent Dilfer, just another game manager. With the weapons we have we need more than that. If we're going to make a move it has to be a better move than those two.
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    Schiano and staff are to blame for this loss. The play calling has to be more aggressive on offense. 3rd down and you allow our piss poor defense to go lose it as usual. NO ONE would have second guessed if we passed and it was unsuccessful, but to essentially allow the leagues worst pass defense the chance to lose this game is asinine. You couple our overly aggressive defense with the pathetically conservative offense and you have the upset we witnessed today. I hope Schiano realizes that our offense is what wins us game , the whole defense wins championships monicre is cute only when it's actually the case. Call plays like our best defense is an aggressive offense and we will be fine, but this loss falls squarely on Schiano.
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    As Pinkstob stated there are lots of things to be upset about. I won’t elaborate, you saw the game. But there are some takeaways here too. For one, we should target Domonique Rodgers-Cromartie (UFA) as the experienced LCB that we go after in FA. Then, I was impressed with the D-line play and was amused by the block that Freeman threw when Martin reversed field. Martin had a good game as did V-Jax – two Bucs we can really be proud of. In a way I’m glad we can dispense with the playoff talk already. With a secondary that is akin to a screen door on a submarine, we cannot stop a 3rd round rookie QB leave alone elite QBs that we would face in any playoff game. Before the Freeman bashers start, I will be the first to admit that he played a horrible game today. I would only ask them to include in their comments after getting a 21-10 lead with 6 minutes remaining, what Freeman did to lose the game. One might be better-served to ask the coaches on a 3rd and 7, why would you call a running play that would most likely put the game in the hands of the submarine fleet with the screen doors? Anyway, I enjoyed the game, that is, right up to the point where we lost. Lol!
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    We choked out there today, never played an entire half. Josh needs to make more plays with his legs. Free threw into a screen play seeing it was covered instead of doing what Foles did to us running the other way for a big play. The one play Free took off he picked up a big 1st down. Take off with the ball Josh you're better on the run.
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    When/ if he goes through his progressions and no ones open he needs to beat feet up field instead of forcing an incompletion or interception. I blame the coaches they just don't want him running.
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    So, Rogers-Cromartie is a free agent next year. I say the Bucs need to go after him. They need corner help in the worst way. We all know that. Too, the Bucs need a QB to really push Freeman. This hot and cold crap is just not getting it. He was horrible today and he has been horrible in other games this year. Remember the Dallas game ? More and more I'm thinking he is just not a big time NFL QB. Not consistent with positive performances at all. The young Eagle QB looked like a winner today, Freeman didn't .
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    Yeah, we don't need to overpay him for an extension this year. Two qualities that a true Franchise QB needs to have: Consistency, and consistent inconsistency won't work, and the ability to make the cast around him better. Free cannot do these things. He has shown that he can win in the clutch, but there's no sense in paying him a lot of money for his middle-of-the-road/superb back-up skill-set. Free needs to at least be pushed by a young stud in the draft and I hate saying that because all of our picks could be better used elsewhere. He's not the worst QB in the league, but he's far from the best.
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    vicious00cycle- so you don't want Freeman but you have a better option at qb who can come in and throw 25 td's and 8 int's? I'm excited to hear of this plan you have for the Bucs qb position, let the wisdom flow freely through your words
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    Grats on spitting out some stats. Here's a stat question for you JG, How many TD's to Ints. has Freeman thrown in the postseason in 4 years? Oh.... he's never been.... Because of the two things I mentioned above. Like a boss. 25 TD's to 8 Ints is cool, but the lulls need to stop or we will lose more games like today. I understand the Defense is patchwork, as is our line, however elite QB's can overcome these things and make his team better. I live in Kansas, watched him a lot at K-State, and he never jumped off the page to me as a Franchise QB, rather a developmental prospect at best, similar to Klein this year, and he never had the accuracy throughout his collegiate career either. Rah took him because of his familiarity with him and because of his prototypical size and powerful arm. After 4 years, I'm not convinced that this is a guy we need to pay a small fortune to just to keep him guiding this team to mediocrity as far as our offense is concerned. V-Jax is 30, Dallas Clark is having a pretty decent year but how much does he left in the tank for the long haul? If we end up running Martin into the ground and he wears down, or he endures a slump, then what? Can Freeman be trusted to put this team on his shoulders, make his offense better, and carry us to double-digit win seasons??? He's clutch in the 4th QTR, and I love that, but the first 3 QTRs are a total mystery. Bring in someone to push him and make him shape up, or get out. Stats are for losers Gruden.
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    ok so you don't have a plan just complaining got it! Drafting some rookie and thinking he can be this player is funny enough but to even say how many td's has he had in the post season even more hilarious. How many td's has Matt Schaub thrown in the post season mmm 0 he has never been to the playoffs either but yet he is still a franchise qb and Matt Ryan has 0 playoff wins, the offense isn't the problem this team is averaging over 30 pts a game but yet that isn't good enough for vicious00cycle, lets worry about that last ranked secondary who consistently lets mediocre qb's break their individual passing records for passing thats why we aren't going to the playoffs last time I checked Freeman didn't have two holding penalties on the final drive and let receivers run open all day. try watching the AZ qb's or KC qb's and see real qb issues. Freeman had a bad game so what Matt Ryan threw 5 int's against the stinking Cards and Eli Manning throws 20 picks a yr and gets beat by lesser teams every yr look at the big picture not little ones
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    Schaub put his team in fantastic position last year and then a pretty stud rookie QB came in to help guide the team from there. He's also done more than his part to get his team poised for homefield advantage this year. Rookie QB's are coming into the league with a better feel for the pro-game than ever before, so why would it be considered blasphemous to bring in some rookie competition? I won't argue the point, because if I'm wrong then everybody wins and we have our guy. But from what I've seen in four years, he doesn't deserve a major contract extension. I know that I can't be the only one that sees this lol! And I'm not saying he's the worse QB in the league, AZ has about three such examples currently on their roster lol. And Eli has Two Superbowls under his belt due to being elite status in the Playoffs, but not so much in the regular season. Matty Ice might not have won a playoff game yet in his career, but for the past few years his team is ALWAYS in the discussion come the final regular season stretch and it's because he can be counted on. I need a QB that has mental intangibles, a fire that is ALWAYS lit under his *censored*, and a bravado that keeps one lit under his teammates. A fierce gladiator on the grid-iron, a commander and leader who always puts his offense in the best position to capitalize on the weakness of a defense. Be it a scrub team or one of elite caliber, I need a QB that shows no fear, no hesitation. A proverbial killer with an itchy trigger-finger. But most importantly, I need someone who doeasnt START THE DAMN GAME GOING 3-14!!!! These QB's do exist, and more to the point, they exist in alarmingly plentiful numbers at the collegiate level. Bring a stud in and let him push Freeman to glory or out of the way. He should not be given an extension this year, he needs to play the last year and give it his all if he wants that "Franchise" money.
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    Matt Ryan doesn't even have better stats than Freeman with better offensive talent esp the past 5 yrs as you like to say, Schaub has super bowl talent around him too, freeman has one of the worst defense's in the league so you can't compare him to guys who have better talent on BOTH sides of the Ball. Vincent Jackson is having his best statiscal career with Freeman averaging 20 yds a catch by no coincidence. I guess you want the days of Shaun King, Dilfer, Gradkowski, Griese, Garcia, Testeverde, Zeier and Deberg back NOT me give Freeman the contarct extension he is only 24 and has his best yrs in front of him
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    V-Jax makes Freeman better, not the other way around. Don't get it twisted. Free throws a hell of a mean jump ball for the 6'5 receiver to come down with. I'm not arguing about it anymore dude, you have your opinion and I have mine. Give him the money and crown him our Franchise leader while bringing in no competition to push him. And we can all enjoy mediocrity from the position for years to come, but only as long as we keep talent stocked around him to hold him up.
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    We don't deserve to make the playoffs with this defense at least No-show McCoy decided to play today Bennett had a play few plays anyone see Foster or Barron on the field?
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    From what ive seen of these corners, putting the game in their hands is a flat out bad call, no way around it. Id rather go for it on 4th and 15, even with JF playing bad then leave it on those 2 on the outside. Just my 2 cents!
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    I guess theres always next season..
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    What a horrible, horrible coaching and QB performance today. Horrible! From Schiano not having the team prepared in the first half for what the (old) new Eagles DC was bringing. From Sheridan's horrible play calling on 3rd down, including his ineffective blitzes on 3rd and long. Even Sullivan got in on the act by getting conservative at the end of the 4th quarter. Oh and Freeman was inaccurate, threw into crowds and only seemed to see half the field all day. What an embarrasing way to eliminate any chance we had at the playoffs. Oh yeah that's right, no one cared about making the playoffs this year but me so I guess I'll be the only one really mad about this.
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    Im w you pinkstob, Im just to HOT @ the moment 2 really comment. F@#$ the Eagles.
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    I totally agree pinkstob. This loss more than any other this season has me angry. The defense just stopped making plays in the 4th quarter. I know that a few guys knocked passes down, but nobody, and I mean nobody tried to put the game away. To have Gorrer have a pass bounce right off the numbers when the INT would have meant the game is beyond acceptable. I will give Gaitor a bit of a pass, being his first game back after missing the whole season. He made some plays, but there were just bonehead plays made on all sides of the ball. This was a game that should have been won. Should have been dominated. Letting Foles run 20 yards for a TD, and again on a critical 3rd down was truely embarrassing. For everything the coaching staff has done to make this team better, they need to be even better themselves.
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    Yep, Pinkstob is the only real Bucs fan here. Let's all console him and his butthurt feelings because our team lost. Sorry, HIS team lost. You're team fought hard today, but I think your team needs another solid offseason, an infusion of fresh, young talent, and another year of experience for your team's coaches. Sorry about theheartbreaking loss that you suffered today pinkstob. I'll keep you and your team in my thoughts and prayers!
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    vicious00cycle, learn to recognize sarcasm when you see it.
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    You're on here whining all the time about how you seem to be the only one that cares about Tampa making the playoffs this year... Or was all of that just sarcasm as well?
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    I don't know if I really get why you're attacking pinkstob about this. I read these posts week after week and it drives me crazy that only about 10% of the posters get angry and post about it when the Bucs lose. Most of the comments are about how they are disappointed that "this happend", or "that play" was called, but as long as the game was close its OK. Just as long as the team plays the game close and almost wins, then we are builidng for next year. That is horsecrap! Every fan should be livid every week that the Bucs had a chance to win the game, but the defense dropped the ball - literally and figuratively. We should be slamming the coaches and looking for accountabilty for every loss. The coaches are doing a very good job turning the team around, but they need to make the adjustments to put the players in the best position to make plays. The 4th quarter comes around and we go into a no pressure zone defense that leaves the QB with a ton of time and wide open gaps for him to hit his receivers. The coaches need to accountable for those decisions. After a great 1st half of pressure and coverage, I saw at least 2 occasions where McCoy was arguing with the sideline because of the plays being called in. And the results? 4 man rush against 5 linemen and a TE and a receiver alone in the middle of the field for a first down. McCoy stunting from the left side having to move around a mass of humanity in the middle 7 yards to the right to try to make a play on the QB. Just bad play calling on both sides. When the players had a chance, they didn't make the plays. We should all be angry and if you're not, then I guess you don't really love my team like I do.
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    These things take time guys, rebuilding a franchise doesn't happen overnight. I choose to be proud of the effort I'm seeing because it was just a year ago I saw a bunch of grown men quit. You want a powerful team, the first thing that must be changed is mentality. And it's harder than most people think. If it takes a year to establish that mindset, I'll patiently wait. I want a contender that will compete for generations, not just make the playoffs once every three or four years because teams in front of us end up stumbling. I guess we each do love this team in different ways, neither being right nor wrong. Just different.
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    First of all watch it when you're using words like "whining". These post boards are built for nothing except complaining, encouraging and writing observations about the team. Second, since it seems I need to spell this out for you, the sarcasm is referring to the comment I made about being the only one that cares whether we make the playoffs. As far as recent posts go, as halifaxbucsfan stated many fans on this site have voiced how making the playoffs this year would be "icing on the cake" and they are mainly looking forward to next year and the future. That's what I find very upsetting. You play to WIN the game. Every game. The fans set the standard for the organization and we should pushing for our team to at least make the playoffs every year.
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    Patience will be needed with this young team. And as a fan, I guess you either have it or you don't. Dynasties aren't built in a year, and this one will take time. End of story. And in regards to these messageboards and their purpose, I guess if it helps you blow off some steam over something you can't control then more power to you. Whining/complaining thru any medium is a waste of time and energy. I always go for a 2 mile jog when the Bucs lose, helps with the frustration lol.
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