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March 14, 2013 @ 1:53 am
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Reports Say Revis To Bucs Deal Hinging On Compensation

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The Bucs and the Jets have been tied together as potential trade partners for star cornerback Darrelle Revis, and late Wednsday night Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports says the major hindrance in completing the trade boils down to compensation.
Many have wondered why the Buccaneers have not moved on securing one of the coveted free agent cornerbacks available since Tuesday afternoon. Talented players like Dominique Cromartie-Rodgers and Derek Cox have already found new homes. But according to reports it may be because they want a specific cornerback who is still under contract – the Jets Darrelle Revis.

While the infatuation with Revis isn’t new, Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports did report some new news in regards to the potential trade, saying Wednesday that a deal is hinging now on the compensation.

Cole wrote late Wednesday night, “Tampa Bay Buccaneers management, all the way up to the Glazer family that owns the team, is fully on board with trading for New York Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis, multiple sources told Yahoo! Sports on Wednesday. That includes paying Revis what is considered an acceptable salary.

“The hold up, for now, is what the Jets are willing to accept in a trade. The Buccaneers don't want to relinquish their first-round pick in next month's NFL draft. Tampa Bay holds the No. 13 overall pick.”


Cole went on later to write that sources said the Buccaneers could possibly be persuaded to trade their 2014 No. 1 selection, figuring with their hopeful improvement in 2013, the selection would not be as high as this year’s pick.

The Jets have until this weekend to trade Revis before a $1 million bonus is due. But a source told ESPN’s Rich Cimini that the bonus wouldn’t force the Jets hand.

"One million is a pittance in the big picture when you're talking about a player of Revis' stature and the compensation he could bring," a league source said. "Don't be foolish with something like that."

According to ESPN Revis' agents haven't received permission to negotiate a deal with the Bucs, however one source speculated the parameters of a new contract are already in place.

The Buccaneers began addressing their need for secondary improvement on Wednesday agreeing to a five-year, $41.25 million contract with former 49ers safety Dashon Goldson.

During Goldson’s introductory press conference at One Buccaneer Place Wednesday, Bucs general manager Mark Dominik was asked about Revis and carefully chose his words.

"In terms of our football team we don’t stop,” Dominik said. “We are going to continue to look in any way that we can to continue to improve our football team.  But today is about Dashon. Today is about his day being a member of our football team about him putting on our jersey.  Just know that coach, myself, the front office, we are still all looking. The Glazer family will continue to provide us resources and lets us continue to look to see if there is anything that we think is rare, unique or a player that we think can help our football team we will continue to do that.

“I’m excited about Dashon, I’m excited about the next five years, I’m really excited about him being teamed up with Mark Barron in our secondary and really improve in making us a more physical football team like coach said that we were when we won a championship.”

With the free agent cornerback market beginning to thin out the Buccaneers need to either make a deal or walk away, or run the risk of being forced to start the season with at least one rookie cornerback on the field. The addition of Revis would free up the Bucs front office to more draft options come April, while also putting one of best cornerbacks in the league in Pewter and Red next September.

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    I'm OK with Revis, as long as they know he is healthy. He is a fantastic corner and worth the $$. I would still like to get some D linemen, either in FA or the draft, or both. I like S. Pouha a lot and would be OK with A. Branch and a solid DE. We still need a CB to play opposite of Revis, even if we do land him. Let's get somebody, before they are all gone.
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    Wow. I'm always amazed at the people who claim that losing the draft picks for Gruden meant doom for the Buccaneers. In reality, a horrible salary cap situation and six years of Rich McKay drafts ruined that team (Marvel at our atrocious drafts between 1996-2002 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampa_Bay_Buccaneers_draft_history). Will Revis solve everything? Nope. But Champ Bailey was a huge pain in the *censored* for years before settling down in Denver, and even though Revis will probably never be as good as he was before (or as good as Bailey for as long) if we can get him for next year's first I say pull the trigger. We have no fan support, no national profile and a secondary that has three safeties, a nickel and a dime back.
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    I'm tired of people saying the Bucs have no fan support,you must be a new fan because all through 1997 through 2009 the Bucs would sell out EVERY home game with ease, so don't come with that jive, it's BS!! So, the team goes through a rebuilding period, and fan support predictably takes a hit, that's understood, but to say we have no fan support, when even when we were 0-26, we still sold out that stadium, so the fans are HERE, and they'll come once this thing is turned around! On all other accounts you mention, I agree, but lifelong fans don't just disappear, plus you're seeing declines all around the NFL.
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    I don't want to give up number one picks, but they will do whatever they want regardless of my opinion. I think Dominick is just going to play the waiting game, as there is no rush, he could sign him a month from now or whenever, maybe even after the draft. If Idzik has to move him (and he will get no compensation next year) then the demands should come down over time. Wait it out. It is not like Revis is ready to come in for the off season program anyway.
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    I don't like the fact they are "all in" on the Revis deal. Smith, Lewis, WIlliams, got decent deals around 5 mill a year. You could have had 2 of them for 1 revis deal. This is a BIG mistake, Revis is never happy and always feels underpaid. I was happy with Goldson, and waiting for a prime CB to sighn but not now...WTF come on Dom
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    Has everyone forgotten how we won a Super Bowl? It was done with a good young core of athletes that Dungy left us, but we had to add some top free agents too--a bunch of them, tight ends, two offensive linemen (one made the Pro Bowl--the center), the Experienced QB, and oh yes--a trade of two first round picks to the same Jets, for one of the top wide receivers in the NFL. That is how the Bucs got their only Super Bowl Trophy. We need Revis, and he is worth one number one draft pick. Let DOM go ahead and pick up Grimes too. My concern is that we will lose Bennett and our run stopping DL to free agency, and we have done nothing to land a top DL in free agency that can stop the run and collapse the pocket too. Baron hasn't been spectacular his first year so why should we think wasting a first round pick on an Alabama CB would work out any better? Let it go, there are decent CBs in the second and third rounds. Get Revis now!
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    I actually don't mind giving up a 1st round pick for Revis. I'm not crazy about anyone at the #13 spot. Here's an idea how about we trade for Revis AND pick up Grimes and go win the $&#&ing Super Bowl. Just a thought...
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    I’m guessing here but I think Schiano has slammed his fist on the table and one way or another, it’s going to be Revis. With all the top CBs gone without a fight, it also probably means we re-do the Eric Wright contract and we get Desmond Trufant or Logan Ryan in the draft (2 guys he likes). I don’t know at this point what else it could be! With the current state of our secondary, I'm at a loss!
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    Well now that all the decent CBs are gone from FA its looking more and more like they will trade for Revis...now the jets do have some leverage know the bucs cant sign any one because no one is available to sign besides grimes
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    Just for comparison, for the estimated money that Revis wants ($16 million per year) we could have signed TE Benett ($5 Million Per Year), Cox ($5 Million per Year) and Welker ($6 Million per year). Plus we wouldn't have to give up any draft picks to get all three players. Let's not forget that we still have Wright on the team. He may not be a #1 CB but he's a pretty decent #2. I'm sure we could get him to restructure for at lease half of what he's making now.
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    Wow, thanks for the "updated info" on the Revis trade. Call me crazy, but, isn't EVERY trade held up because of compensation in the NFL? I think the Bucs need to give the Jets a deadline to accept our offer, and when they don't meet it, then we go get the two CB's that we like the best from who is still available. Only problem is, the pool of quality CB's is shrinking quickly. Just let the Jets get stuck with the 15 million and move on. I am all on board for getting him, but it is taking too long and we are running out of options. The ones still out there that I like are Grimes and K. Lewis, maybe Asomough, and then Cason if still out there and maybe Jammer. We need 2 of them and a draft pick for some youth. Go Bucs and get the deal done or move on.
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    I do not believe the Jets have any leverage. Why would the Bucs give up a first round pick? The Jets can't sign Revis to the type of deal he wants, he is coming off an injury, and the Jets want to get more than ZERO for renting Revis for this year. If Revis is not traded this offseason, the Jets run the risk that Revis' injury could devalue him even further and they won't get compensation after the 2013-2014 season. If the Bucs want him (and his enormous salary demands), they should not mess with giving more than a 4th round pick.
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    Take Sean Smith off the list, gone to the Chiefs.
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    i say that take desmond trufant in the first round 13 overall and take the honeybadger in the second.(do we have a 2nd rounder this yr?) . as for revis well its up to mark and co.
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    Our poor little secondary has been picked on the last couple of years by bullys named Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Matt Ryan and many others. Their were several games last season our secondary gave away for us . Let's show all the bullys around the league that we are not TAKING IT ANYMORE . We signed Goldson, now lets do whatever it takes to sign REVIS , REVIS WE NEED.
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    Look what happened when the Bucs traded multiple 1st and 2nd round picks to get Gruden 10 years ago - they had an erosion in elite talent. Do not trade top picks to get a guy like Revis who won't be happy here anyway. Again, look at his history.
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    True Bobc17 but they did win a Super Bowl and won the NFC South two times after that. Ask Browns fans if they would trade a trophy for several years of mediocrity. not saying Revis does that, but Key and Gruden did.
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    Giving a first rounder for an injured player(at least one of the most dreaded football injuries known) is caving in enough; i wouldn't cave in any more; i'd work to sign another corner and expect to have to draft another instead of waiting to see the Jets accept the trade;
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    The Jets expect the Bucs to give up our next two drafts for them; the Bucs need to see that and not do it. Once again, giving next years first rounder is caving in enough.
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    This is one hot mess...Seems to me like Dom knows hes on the hot seat to have a winning record or make the playoffs and is willing to do what he thinks is the right thing. That being said, Revis is not the answer in my opinion unless he can somehow work out a deal that does not involve trading any 1st round picks. I still dont know why they have no signed ANY CBs yet! Atleast sign one solid CB to go with Leonard Johnson, whom ever they draft, and possibly Revis. And I have been saying this since the Revis rumors surfaced, rather than trade for him and risk paying crazy money, trade up to the 4th spot in the draft and snag Dee Milliner. Dee played with Barron and they know each other well...it makes a lot of sense to me.
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    Also, if we sign a Grimes/Jammer/Cason type, we can go get a solid RT (Andre Smith?)....I am intrigued by Revis, but even if we sign him, we are still 1 short at this point....hoping for quantity and quality.
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    I agree with posters against this trade. It just doesn't feel right. I'd rather draft or bring in a player with less of a target on his back. I just get the feeling Revis would come in here entitled when this team is all about continuity and fight. No pre Madonna, #1, supposed answer to all our problems kind of guy. I still want us to earn it. He's been hyped for too long as being the best and maybe he is but I'd much rather see us cultivate the best and have someone come in with their hard hat on and grow with us.. I'd still welcome Revis but realize that what really gets our fans fanatical us having a guy we can say is all us. A guy who made his name as a buccaneer.
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    My spidey-sense keeps going off every time I read a Revis-2-Bucs article. I know he was good. And can be great again, but what we are giving up (allocation of cap space, future draft pics, potential for the inability to sign our own good players in the future) seems to rich for me. Let's find a future Revis type in the draft.
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    I'd rather take the risk and be wrong then not take the risk and be wrong. Go get him now!
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    Stay Away! The guy has been injured, has a histroy of never being satisfied with a deal he has signed, has held out and been a disruptive force with the Jets. Too many red flags for an apparently no-nonsense coach. Sign the best free agent available as a CB, draft another and let the young guys fight it out for the remaining spots on the team. BTW - please waive goodbye to Biggers!
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    I wouldn't give up more than a 2 for Revis, and that is only if he is committed to signing a long term deal. The Jets are in a tough spot, not us. Grimes is still out there, though he has injury issues too. And if we go into the draft needing CB's, so be it. Wish we would have been in on Derek Cox. That was a decent value signing.
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    This whole thing has me like Kieth Sweat "Twisted" I think Revis is the best corner in the league when healthy, but here are the problems we don't know what kind of player he will be once he is back 2. We will pay him a qb's salary 3. the Jets want way to much compensation, so overall I would say sign another cb like Cason and move on from this save the money and picks and go elsewhere this could really come back to bite us in the a**
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    One thing the past two offseasons have shown is that the Buccaneers are willing to spend some money so regardless how this turns out I hope this encourages us all to go to at least one game this year. I live in St. Louis and will be making at least 2 games this year so I hope we can do our part to show the organization that we support their efforts to field a better team and spend money since that was the biggest complaint by most. At this point if you chose not to attend I would sure hope you can find a better excuse than "management isnt spending money" to rationalize yourself. That said I have my money ready for the Revis Island jersey lets get it done Dom!
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    stlbucsfan, Well said!
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    I see a lot of folks on here saying we are not one player away from a championship but my feeling is that you never entirely say that. I remember going home totally bummed after we lost badly on Monday night to the Steelers with their backup QB starting. I honestly thought we were done that year. Guess what- we didn't lose another game that season and brought home the Lombardi. My point is with the right players in place a team can get on a hot streak at the right time and end up with the hardware at the end of the season. I'm not totally sold on the Revis trade either especially if we have to give up a #1. But I agree with Pick6 that a slightly diminished Revis is still better than the vast majority of other CB options.
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    Go sign Grimes while you can...and save the picks. Nuf said.
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    Revis signing is problematic since no one knows what kind of player he will be post injury recovery. The solution to this is he takes a lower salary, which he is unwilling to do or he is signed to a short-term deal in which case he can walk after the deal runs its term. No way a rational team would give up draft picks for such a deal. So basically the Bucs are spinning their wheels while healthy cornerbacks sign with other teams. In the end they will be left with nothing or they will force a bad deal with Revis.
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    also, bear in mind there is a major step up happening in cap room in a couple seasons' time. by 2015, revis will be a long way from the highest paid defensive player in the league even if the bucs make him that tomorrow.
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    as i wrote on another website, looking back on our draft history, there are probably only 3 first round picks by the bucs in the last 15 years that panned out better than 5 years of revis would, assuming he is not a far lesser player than he was before the injury. 75% of revis’ peak would be better than 100% of talib over the next 5 years. i have to imagine the deal involves manning-like injuryroster bonus clauses that allow us to cut bait each offseason if the injury prevents his play from equaling his pay.
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    I can't believe i'm saying this but we really should get Rivas. He's a unique talent and better than any #1 pick out there. Plus we get him on a new deal so he'll be here for a while. The guy is, at worst, a top 5 corner. Swallow hard and give then the #1 this year and let's celebrate the two best years of free agency ever for the Bucs. stlbucsfan - well said.
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    I say move on an get a corner while there is still some on the market.
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    Mark, you omitted some of Dom's other quotes, like Dashon has earned every penny he's made the right way. I took that as a slight towards Revis meaning last year Revis didn't earn his bread, but is still asking for more. I can only think of the Orlando Magic, and Grant Hill. The Magic were desperate to make a splash in free agency and signed Hill who was coming off ankle surgery, and still on crutches. Hill was never the same player, and the money he was paid set the Magic back years. I hope Dom is smart enough not to make the same mistake.
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    Well stated rocketglass. You make a trade for a guy like Revis when your team is one player away from reaching the superbowl. We're not that team just yet. Furthermore, if we make this trade we'd become just like the Eagles and Jets from a couple of years ago who invested a boat load of money in their secondary only to have to dismantle their team a couple of years later and have nothing to show for it in return. In fact they're worse off than before. I say no to Revis, sign a guy like S. Smith, and solidify our front seven through the draft.
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    Personally I wouldn't give anything more for Revis than we got from New England for Talib.
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    Isnt he in the final year of his contract? I say leave him be. Dom could end up giving away too much with picks and money. We did that once before with a much more experienced GM and solid football team at every position. We ended up with a very short lived success. Save the money for our young veterans and invest our picks on new talent we can get in here and coach up to be stars. If things are as bad between Revis and the Jets maybe they end up releasing him, or he could sit-out this season. If he is available next season we may could get him without mortgaging the future away this season.
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    If the Bucs are on board with every phase of the trade except the compensation then I trust we will find some common ground and get this deal worked out by the weekend hopefully. IF we have to give up a first round pick for Revis then so be it. Most mock drafts have us selecting a CB anyway and last time I checked no CB available in this draft has the credentials of Revis. The Bucs management is smart we arent going to give Sean Smith roughly 10 mill a year when we can make it 13 or 14 and get arguably the best corner in the game its a no brainer. The question is not if Revis is worth a first bc that goes without saying, the question is why pay that price when it appears as though we are bidding against ourselves. Get the man, pay the man, and lets move on to the draft.
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    The CBs are 1 by 1 starting to come off the board, DRC to Denver, Cox to SD and the market is soft. If the market is like this come the weekend, expect Smith and Grimes to stay home. I’ve already said I’m ambivalent about Revis. We shouldn’t waste time with a team that can’t make up it’s mind or a player who may be signaling that he doesn’t want to be traded here. What’s up with Revis being seen wearing a Falcons cap? He knows what’s going on and he knows what he is doing. Time to move on!
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    Agree with Mac and Bucfan. Big money for Revis and question whether he is still the same guy - he was best CB two years ago - now not so sure - and how many years does he have left. Pay a little bit more for Sean Smith to get him away from the Phins and continue building through the draft.
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    Sign Sean Smith, it will cost you less, cost you no draft picks, and you can still (try to) draft Trufant at 13. Barron, Goldson, Smith, and Trufant? Night and day vs last year.
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    The bucs need to forget about Revis. He is coming off an injury and no one knows how good he will be. They should sign Grimes, hall, Cason or Smith. They also need to resign Barber and Bennet. Use Barber as our Nickleback. Then find an injury agreement with Black LB and let him go. Draft Olgetree LB 1st round. We could move Foster back to OLB where he is more comfortable. Trade back into the first and Draft Trufant. Draft TE with our 3rd pick and Ol and CB with the later round picks. Let Barber tutor Trufant for the year. We def need money to resign our players next year.
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    rocketglass...Well thought out, I agree keep the 1st rd. this year and next year no matter what or walk away ! Revis is coming back from an ACL. IMO we should just trade up for Minter. Minter is younger and the up side is there. If we give up a 1st. in any year we overpaid AGAIN !
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    The BUCs need to sh** or get off the pot at this point since the Jets can't decide what they want to do. The FA CB pool is already drying up!
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    It seems like it's going to happen but i really hope it doesn't. If Freeman plays well next year and the team needs to resign him, all the Revis money will hurt the team's ability to resign guys like M. Williams and McCoy. If Freeman plays poorly we won't have a 1st rounder next year to draft his replacement. I don't think we are one player away from the Superbowl so to me it's not worth it.
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    I agree with rocketglass. When Revis is 100% he does cut off one side of the field for the Bucs opponents. It's one thing for the NY city slickers to con us country bumpkins into grossly overpaying for Meshawn Johnson. When you combine that with the overcompensation to the Raiders for Jon Gruden, it isn't hard to see what happened to the once mighty Bucs !!!! Revis is a 7 year veteran coming off an ACL injury and the Jets want our 1-13 pick ? I think the Jets sense that his best days are way behind him and are looking to turn lemons into lemonade with the help of the Tampa bumpkins. I say go after Sean Smith and Nmandi Asomugha and draft a youngster or two to develop. This is a reasonably good year to get value at CB in the mid rounds. The other thing is Revis is brutal on renogotiating his contract every other year.
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    Well stated rocketglass. You make trade for a guy Revis when your team is one player away from reaching the superbowl. We're not that team just yet. Furthermore, if we make this trade we'd become just like the Eagles and Jets from a couple of years ago who invested a boat load of money in their secondary only to have to dismantle their team a couple of years later and have nothing to show for it in return. In fact they're worse off than before. I say no to Revis, sign a guy like S. Smith, and solidify our front seven through the draft.
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