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March 16, 2013 @ 3:12 pm
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Fans' Frustrations Build As Dominik Holds Firm In Free Agency

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The Buccaneers' inability to secure defensive talent other than safety Dashon Goldson has many fans on edge. Losing two starters from the defensive line has made the tension and stress levels rise even more. Is there a plan? Can the Buccaneers come out as winners in free agency? What will Dominik do to improve the defense?
The actions – or lack thereof – by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers thus far in free agency have some fans abandoning their cars atop the Skyway Bridge getting ready to jump, and as of Saturday afternoon, general manager Mark Dominik isn’t answering the emergency crisis hotline. An answer may be coming soon if Dominik and the Jets can work out a trade for superstar cornerback Darelle Revis, but tension is building each hour that passes – and another free agent CB signs elsewhere.

In the meantime, the natives are getting restless, and with the departure of defensive end Michael Bennett and defensive tackle Roy Miller, combined with the lack of any cornerback additions, the luster of signing safety Dashon Goldson has quickly worn off.

The Buccaneers were a complete defensive Jekyll and Hyde in 2012. The team was No. 1 in the NFL against the run, but dead last against pass, it was almost unfathomable that there could be such a huge disparity between the two. And the Bucs coaching staff last season was just as bewildered. On two occasions last season, PewterReport.com asked defensive coordinator Bill Sheridan if the emphasis on stopping the run was affecting the team's ability to play pass defense. Sheridan said no both times, and said in fact it should benefit the pass rush as stopping the run on first and second down normally put the opposing offense in third-and-long situations which should be wins more often than not for the defense.

Since last Tuesday, the Bucs have lost their most productive pass rusher in defensive end Michael Bennett, and a big run-stuffing defensive tackle in Roy Miller. Bennett was also super against the run, notching 18 tackles for loss, which was the second-most in Tampa Bay last season.

So how does a team allow two of its better defensive players to walk away in free agency? And why would a team allow two of its better players to get away for relatively small contracts by NFL standards?

Sources told PewterReport.com that the organization liked both players but believe it can upgrade the positions with more productive players. Over the last three seasons, Tampa Bay has been very poor at getting to the quarterback and has not recorded 30 sacks or more in any season during that span. What has been a constant over the last three years? Bennett and Miller.

While a solid space-eater in the middle, Miller hasn’t had a sack since 2010. That is two years where he hasn’t sniffed the quarterback. Of course an argument can be made, how many nose tackles in the NFL get sacks? Very few. But Tampa Bay wants more pressure from that position. It's the same thing with Bennett PewterReport.com was told. Bennett was the team's best pass rusher, but nine sacks in 16 games is far from elite. Bennett could flash at times then disappear just as quickly. He had four of his sacks in two games against Dallas and Philadelphia.

Aside rom allowing Miller and Bennett to flee, Tampa Bay has failed to address the cornerback position, which was the biggest area of need. Sean Smith, Dominique Cromartie-Rodgers, Greg Toler, Derek Cox, Keenan Lewis and Antoine Cason are all off the board in free agency. Re-signing E.J. Biggers is looking pretty good to some Bucs fans at this point.

So far in free agency the Buccaneers appear worse on paper than when the season ended with a 7-9 record. Sure, Goldson most likely will be a huge upgrade at the safety position, but he and strong safety Mark Barron can’t cover the whole field. Wide receiver Kevin Ogletree and tight end Tom Crabtree may very well be productive contributors on offense, however, neither play cornerback.

PewterReport.com has been told the Buccaneers just didn’t value the free agent cornerbacks the same way that many in the media or even the fans did. And when you look at the deals that Cromartie-Rodgers, Cox and Smith received, the money was much lower than predicted prior to free agency. The Buccaneers weren’t going to spend money just for the sake of spending money, no matter how desperate for cornerback help they are. Is that a mistake? Time will tell.

Many have also wondered why cornerback Eric Wright is still on the roster, but with the ruling on Friday by a mediator that Tampa Bay can void the remainder of Wright’s contract due to his suspension for Adderall, the release is just a formality. However, Wright could very well be back in the starting lineup come opening day in September. Not at his current salary of $7.75 million, but in the lineup and a member of the Buccaneers at a reduced price nonetheless. Depending on the Revis outcome, the Buccaneers may not have a choice but to bring Wright back for at least one season.

Even with the black plume of smoke seen hanging over One Buc Place the last few days by some fans, Dominik and the Buccaneers can still come out smelling like roses with a trade for Revis and finding a good cornerback or two in the draft. They could also add some pieces to the defensive line via free agency still then address it more in the draft.

While the Saturday deadline for the $1 million roster bonus for Revis has passed, a trade deal is still in the works, according to sources. The annual NFL Owners Meeting kicks off Monday in Phoenix and the two sides most likely will meet face to face and get a deal done. If it hits a snag by chance, Dominik and Tampa Bay will be scrambling and the dark cloud will grow larger. Dominik and the Buccaneers need the Revis deal to happen or suffer the wrath of the Buccaneers fan base and more losses on Sundays this fall.
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    HERE IAM AGAIN FAN GEORGE HICKS FROM EAST TX. I THINK THE MOVE THAT TAMPA MOVE BENN WR TO PHILA FOR TAMPA NO#7 FOR PHIL #6 AND A CONDITIONAL PICK IN 2014. HERE IS ONE SISTUTATION I THOUGH OFF IS THIS. WITH MINN LOSING HARVIN TO SEATTLE THEY HAVE #23 AND #25.I THINK TAMPA COULD OFFERED MINN THEIR #13 TO MOVE DOWN 10 SPOTS TO #23-THEY GIVE UP(MINN) #23  TO TAMPA AND TAMPA SWAPS 2ND ROUND PICK TAMPA GET #52 AND MINN GETS NO#43. TAMPA COULD REALLY MAKE A MOVE ON THE REVIS SWEEPSTAKES IF MINN MADE THE MOVE. IF MINN MADE THE MOVE. THE JETS MOULD HAVE THREE #1 PICKS THIS YEAR.TAMPA WOULD HAVE MINN 2ND RD PICK PLUS THEIR #3 MULT #4, A #5 AND A MULT #6. ANOTHER DEAL WOULD BE THIS TAMPA TRADES #23 TO JETS PLUS MULT #4 AND MULT #6 TAMPA WOULD STILL HAVE A NO#1 PICK AND BOTH #2 &3 & 5. I THINK IT WOULD BE A WIN-WIN SISTUTATION.
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    Well Guys I must have ben a little harse on GM, But Dominic did snag the top Safety in FA, Plus Sign wr from Cowboys and now the TE from GB. If the Revis does pan out. A lot of the teams go after the suppose to the players at their positions. But everyone must remember why did they let a player or players go. I think Tampa in the long road will be better off. Look at the 2013 draft they have a no#1,No#2,No#3, mult #4 picks#5 and mul #6 picks. I think Tampa has done very well. Now Tampa can go after the College players that will be available. I say regardless of what position they go after it should be the top player available at each round available. If they do that Tampa future will be bright. I can't wait to see who Tampa adds thru FA another QB,DE,DL & CB GO BUCS
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    GrayBuc.... Thanks for the correction it was Haynesworth .
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    Fan frustration ? Let me see, who pays for the tickets? for the concession ? Taxes for the stadium? Who has been watching other games on TV because The Bucs game is blacked-out because FANS won't fill the seats? Frustration, you bet your "What have you done for me lately " paycheck Mr Dominick. King Darrell gets more respect than Buc fans. "HOLD FIRM" 3-13.......
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    I guess Dominik don't remember that he went after the biggest fish in the pond a few years back when he went after Hayward. He was lucky that Hayward turned the Buc's down or we would still be paying for that bust. Dominik should have learned something, I HOPE. One man don't make a team but one man can DESTROY a team. Pass on Revis !
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    I think you mean Haynesworth. Not Hayward. Still, your point is well taken. I hope Dom learned a lessen from that close call. I'm fine with obtaining Revis, but not at too high a cost in compensation to the Jets and not in too high a cost in cap hit to pay him. He may be the best CB in the league, but he's still just one guy. For me too much compensation to the Jets would be any day one or two 2013 draft pick.
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    Don't be fooled by the first vs. run and last vs. pass. Number one against the run is very misleading as that stat is based on sheer numbers. The truth is that numbers like yards allowed is low simply because the passing defense was so bad no one had to even try and run against us.
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    Wrong, did you watch games they were good against the run period. Ypc is very telling granted teams were able to pass but when they ran they got stuffed. I believe a good amount of the pass yards given up were based on playcalling Sheridan stunts way to much and blitzes to much too its one thing when you het there but that didn't happen very much so why keep calling them. Hence the atl game where we stayed home let the dline rush straight up the field mixed in zone coverages the d played well I'm not saying we don't need some help at cb but better playcalling will go along ways and for the last time Miller wasn't very good and Niether was Bennett. Roy is a c+ and Bennett is a B- player I actually think teo-nassiem is just as good and bowers' elite potential is worth letting Bennett go to se what Dequan has got. When we go dt at 13 and still get trufant of banks with our next pick and a amerson or honey badger later even if we don't get revis we will be ok. Calm down guys I love the passion but just chill .
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    If holding firm means not caving and giving too much for Revis- then hold firm..The longer this deal stalls the more I feel they are trying to game us..he is only one guy..and he's only good if he's on the field..Nicks was a great pick up,spent a ton of time sidelined..Clayborn....No first rounder this year or next..
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    Oh, I forgot to ask....I know Ogletree is a sub-par WR, but can someone shed some light on Tom Crabtree? I don't know much about him, unfortunately. I did see a GB fan say on another site that Crabtree is a quality receiver, but he's been stuck behind Finley. What do you guys think about that? Thx
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    Hello fellow Buc fans! After a couple of years on this site, I had to return. This FA is driving me crazy. I am happy we signed Goldson, but the fire has simmered down. There must be a plan in the works. I have full confidence in Dom and Shiano. I'm staying away from the Revis talk although his presense wouldn't hurt. I think Ronde will play this season and fill in on Nickel situations. I wouldn't be surprised if Dom and the boys pull off some kind of trade during the draft. Last year, everyone was raving about the moves that Dom made. Although I'm remaining somewhat patient, my patience is wearing thin. About Bennett, I agree with a few posts that he was mostly dealing with 1-on-1 situations. The Bucs obviously didn't see an upside in him. As far as Miller is concerned, it doesn't trouble me so much. Watching him on the field for the last few seasons hasn't shown me much. YES, we've suffered by losing a few D Linemen, but I'm confident in our coaching staff. No way does Shiano commit to a 3-4 defense. It's not in his nature. I certainly don't want to draft Manti Teo. The dude has some issues IMO. I was hoping for Rhodes or Sharif Floyd, but I think they'll be gone by #13. Agree with the Regis trade. I wouldn't mind picking up a RB like Lattimore for some power running to compliment Martin. Anyways, I look forward to jabbing with fellow TRUE Buc fans. p.s. How long does it take to get my pic approved? Lol
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    It's not frustration. It's apathy. 1 year of a decent Free Agency does not forgo years of ineptitude. This team needs upgrades that will bridge the gap until permanent replacements can be obtained. For this reason and this reason alone I've given up my season tickets for the 1st time in 18 years.
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    While we haven't signed Revis yet; he hasn't made a deal with anyone else either. The Jets have to get something out of him and I feel they will be worn down to take lower than they wanted initiially and I still feel DOM will get the deal done with the Jets and we will have a number one DB. If he can't sign a number two, he can still get Wright at a very reduced price, and that is alll we will need, and maybe get a CB or two in the draft too. We don't need a backup Tackle as long as we hang on to Meredith, who is a Tackle who showed he is also a great backup guard too last year. Our Offensive Line will be a lot better this year with our starting Guards back. I do think the Bucs should have kept Bennet, but I think they will have two good starters there anyway at DE and a decent backup in Teo'Nesheim (who had 30 sacks in college and has been slowly developing as a Pro just like Bennet did) If the Bucs will just grab the DT from the Gators in the first round (who ESPN said the NFL films Expert told them he is the best DT in the draft based on all the film he has seen this year of college prospects) we will be just fine. He can stop the run and get after the QB too, and also can play DE too if need be (and Gibson is good enough to start at DL then too). Bottom line--just be patient. I still believe in DOM!
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    I for one am going to be patient. Why? Because early signings are almost never good values. Am I excited to have Goldson? Sure. But we paid too much. But at least he is a quality player. I would feel much worse if we signed Kruger or one of the other lower tier players. I would have liked to sign Bennett for 1 year, but he may not have wanted to sign here. So far we haven't lost out on too many talented FA's, and as for the CB's that are out there, none are what I would call a #1 except Grimes, and it's arguable how many of them are #2's. I will admit we probably don't have a CB better than a #4 on the roster right now, but if we can get a #2 for a bargain price later, I am all for it. I still hope we get in on a RT, and Grimes, and maybe one of the older DE's if the price is right. But I am not about to cry over not getting the chance to overpay Sean Smith.
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    I'm a bit late with this, I was gonna say more but ehinote and tjbucsman hit it perfectly. As a famous politician said, "are you better now than you were four years ago?" Well, are we better now than we were before free agency (especially when we are sitting on a boatload of cash)? Sure, the situation changes every day. Sure, Dominck could pull a rabbit out of the hat. But, options have dried up since Day 1. Players are signed elsewhere and we now have to ask the draft crapshoot to rescue us with an inside straight. I would rather have built a better foundation going into it. Certainly I didn't expect to lose ground. But we did.
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    Sorry, but I don't agree with you scubog. The NFL off-season is in itself a 'season': It has its ups and downs. We should have as much emotion now as we do during the season. I know I do and I can tell you, I am angry as hell. As of right now, we are very down and I don't see too much by way of defensive linemen floating around. We just lost our sack leader and a big piece of the only aspect of our defense that we could hang our hats on last year, namely a #1 run defense. It does not matter how many pro bowl secondary players you have on the team if the defensive line does not pressure the quarterback. Because of these mistakes, we now need defensive linemen just as much as we need cornerbacks. That fact wasn't true a week ago.
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    Yep
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    I don't know what is worse the freaking out in march or the fact that we have been so bad you guys actually think mike Bennett was the second coming of Reggie white , take a chill pill and think he had 15 career sacks in 4 years guys. Dequan is better this guy is over the knee that caused him to slip he has elite talent he needs snaps can't get those with Bennett here. Now the cb thing is s%$&ty but I think Dom has a plan we will get Revis for a mid rounder and next year's 1st. Just a game of chicken right now. Draft a dt with #13 then trufant late 1st early second. Also remember we still have wright they will restructure and keep him if necessary he is a decent player and can be a legit #2 starter . Just calm down guys and stop with the miller and bennet were great stuff.
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    Bucsguy Nobody minds Bowers over Bennet or drafting a corner in the first or second or upgrading Miller.Its just fact that great teams have DL depth and Bennett can play three positions good and that Is hard to replace,Miller was part of a Good run unit and will be hard to upgrade for 2 mil. and if you do he would be excellent depth. Clay and Bowers aren't likely to start every game this year let alone every down.In this division ( Atlanta)a rookie corner isn't gonna have much success unless he is the nickel . So listen to what people are saying not what you think you want them to say , any Buc fan just wants the talent task at hand to lessen not grow.This was a bad D and had the worst backfield in the nfl . There are still options they are just about a third of what they were.
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    Go BUCS,!!! Lets get this ship sailing baby!!!
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    The time to get frustrated and threaten to jump ship isn't when the off-season is not even a week old. If the 2013 season is ready to kick-off that first game and our roster is worse than at the conclusion of 2012, boo all you want. Just a little premature for me just yet.
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    Right on scubog.
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    Hey Atrain-40, First of all, the 'Atrain-40' days are over: Open your eyes to the current franchise and you should notice that we have not won a play-off game since the 2002 season(Super Bowl XXXVII). That is 10 seasons of falling flat!!!! Secondly, if by 'fair weather fan' you mean wanting the entertainment I pay for with my hard earned money to actually be entertaining, then yes, you are correct in your assessment of me. But don't worry, you can do what you wish with your money. I respect your decisions in that regard. Thanks, twstella, aka. Buc's #1 fair-weather fan
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    First of all, any nimkumskull that tells a fan they are not a fan because they are voicing displeasure can go jump off a short plank. I've put more blood sweat and tears into this team than 99% of the people on this site and ill complain because I care. It doesn't make you a fan to hide your head in the sand and say "we're gonna be great." Point blank, we are worse than we were 10 days ago. Yes, hopefully our guys develop but yes, we also have lost more than we've gained. Goobers can go and say, "it's all gonna work our and we're gonna add all this great talent, but the fact is the best talents in FA are already gone, so now we've backed ourselves in a corner and almost have to make the revis trade... And don't think the jets don't know that and hold out until we break. The draft and FA are crap shoots, but if you don't take any shots you definitely don't win. For the record, I love my Bucs, but I also am disappointed at this moment that we haven't done more. Our defense is worse than it was last year. And anyone that thinks ronde is going to come in and be one of our top two corners is crazy. There's a reason that he was moved to safety...he's lost a step or two with age. We still have no pass rushers or above average cover corners. At this moment we would be in big trouble...hopefully Dom is able to pull a few miracles before the season starts.
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    Having been an original season ticket holder I am one of the 1% that has as much sweat and tears as you ehinote. I agree that we are worse than we were 10 days ago, but what I care about is being better when the season starts. Also, I don't see how the defense can be worse than last year's when it hasn't played a down yet. I share your hope that some good FA/draftchoices are made.
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    So far I like what is going on. Our priority right now should be DT, DE, CB. Some of these positions mentioned above can be improved yet via Free Agency and trades. I would stay away from Revis as you will never please him and I believe that has already peaked. With the 13th pick in the 2013 draft the Tampa Bay Buccaneers pick BPA; trading out of the first round would be my first choice.
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    Don't worry, Dominik is going to wheel and deal. As in prior dealings, he takes his picks that he has from trades and bundles those to either move up or get other players. Look for him to bundle a fourth and a sixth with a second for Revis. Or, he will bundle those picks to move up. Dominik has some tricks up his sleeve. He is going to make sure he doesn't look silly for his early ineptitude.
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    Yes, for all the fair weather Buc fans out there - the next stop is Miami, where they have signed more FA's than anyone, so they will obviously win the superbowl. Don't let the door hit you on the way out!
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    Stratobuc, You chicken littles are unbelievable. Free agency started less than a week ago. And you are already declaring the 2013 season a wash out. Mark Domink is slow-playing his hand. I think the analogy I read that makes the most sense is: You want to be the guy that brings two bottles of top shelf liquor to the party, not the guy who brings 5 bottles of crap.
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    i just hope dom doesn't harm the future of the franchise by forcing a too expensive revis trade in order to save his job. if josh doesn't come around it is not going to matter anyway. the cornerback issues are just a manifestation of a decade's worth of poor drafting and questionable free agent signing. think about it - what positions do we really know we have locked down as real areas of strength? if you give barron benefit of doubt based on play earlier in season, you can say safety x 2. you can say guard x 2. you can say lb x 1-2. you can say wr x 2. you can say rb x 1. and that is it. maybe gmc starts having an impact commensurate with his draft spot and salary, maybe bowers becomes the player everyone thought he would be before the knee, maybe claiborne recovers (though he looked one dimensional on the field before the injury), maybe josh gets it together mentally, maybe penn doesn't show up out of shape again. maybe one or two other players take a great big step up. but that is a lot of maybe's and even if all that happened we'd still have a lot of holes. for the record, i just saw my season ticket renewal hit my credit card so i am on board, and for the long term, just calling it like i see it.
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    Let's add 3 young studs on the DL; A top 100 player at LT; A top 10 center; even RT has been rated top 12 recently. Looks like we need is CBs and some depth.
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    twstella, So you have just declared yourself the ultimate fair weather "fan". You don't even deserve to be called a fan. Pathetic.
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    Because he told it like it is? Take the blinders off, this franchise IS pathetic. Dominik is incompetent.
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    Well, I’m on the bus. The Play60 short bus – Schiano is driving, Dominik is in the front seat holding a road map, and Davis is next to him with a deep southern drawl shouting out where to make turns. Even though there is music in the background, you know that Play60 music that says everybody is having fun, I’m a little nervous. I got on the bus because last year it was a good ride as we drove through FA and the draft. This year I’m not so sure because every once in a while a guy gets off that I liked and another guy gets on that I don’t recognize. Now I knew this year could be different when Schiano took the wheel. I had that suspicion when I saw the victory kneel down in the Giants game, but I’m here and I plan to stay on the bus even though I don’t really know where we’re going yet. So far this trip isn’t all bad, we picked up a west coast guy that I hear is pretty good and will really help our secondary. But the big news is that we’re going to pick up a guy that will really change our fortunes and that I would recognize him because he has a large head with a full beard and he’ll be the one on crutches. Now I’m really getting nervous! Oh another guy just got off and they say he’s going to the Eagles. He doesn’t look happy. There is a big guy standing in the door with a scowl on his face, looks like a RB, anyway Schiano has his leg raised as if this is the next guy to be shoved off the bus. We’ve started to slow down to pick up someone, he’s waving his hand as if to get us to stop. Everybody is shouting EJ,EJ,EJ. I want us to speed up! I’m so nervous now that I go up to the front and ask “are we there yet”? I was told to get back to my seat or I would be outta here at the next stop. I’ll let you decide who told me that. He kept mumbling something like “toes on the line, toes on the line”. Well, here I am and I intend to stay on the bus until we get there. While I’m nervous, the guys in the front don’t seem to be. And if they know where they’re going that’s good enough for me. I’ll just be glad when we get there! They’re starting to pump up the Play60 music, heads are bobbing up and down, so I’m just going to sit back and enjoy the ride!
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    It is quite apparent that Mark Dominik and the Buccaneers' front office do not know how to build a legitimate contender. This team has been floundering for far too long and I refuse to purchase season tickets until I feel like they can have even an 8-8 season. After a 7-9 dud of a season and one of the worst passing defenses in NFL history, the Buccaneers are now actually worse; not just on paper, but in fact. Never has the addition of a safety (Goldson) been able to compensate for the loss of two contributing defensive linemen (Miller and Bennett). The depth at defensive line was already thin, now it is nonexistent. 2013 Season Prediction: Although I have saved up 5 seasons worth of season ticket funds waiting to buy season tickets on a Buccaneers team that doesn't make me want to vomit, I am going to blow ALL OF IT at a Las Vegas blackjack table. This franchise is pathetic!
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    It is easy to get frustrated when you see the Patriots build a juggernaut and not be spending as much, as they are just smart, with their roster. Bennett was a loss because we saw how injuries can cut a team apart. He was worth 5M as a backup. Get the lead out Dom.
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    Surferdude I am with you on the Draft Strategy, but we need more than one Corner. We need at least two. The Truth is we need several Defensive players.
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    First off no hurry on Revis. With all these F.A. corners signing else where, less teams will be interested in Revis, and more corners will slip down the draft poll. All you whinner's really want every body elses garbage? Dom see's a draft loaded with corners,who have more up side,and will come cheaper then the crap heap in free agency. Rather then give the Jets draft choices for Revis, why not use them to move up for Milliner? The Bama product would look good in our secondary playing with his old team mate Barron. He'd come at the rookie wage scale, and could be the leagues next Revis. I'd rather use draft choices for a future star, then give away the farm for a fading star. This draft is also loaded with D lineman. You saw Bennett get a show me contract, so Dom was right not to give him a long term deal. Also remember our corners were put in a bad spot last year having to step in for Wright, and Talib without the benefit of reps in OTA's, and camp. Coaching was also a problem, our secondary coach was crap, and let go. Using this years draft, Dom will build our secondary for the long haul. It's way to early to jump ship.
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    Scubog...nice little story...but one little twist....let's make the gift new wheels for his bike...which in recent years consistently crashes in the ditch. Bobbi sees a document at town hall showing Santa has a great deal of money left to greatly improve Bobbi's bike wheel situation... more than most other kids. He sees his currently broken bike and knows he will in all likelihood end up in the ditch again this year without new wheels. And he sees the kids around him getting improvements to their bikes. When Bobbi doesn't get those improved wheels, though he does get a new tire and light, he says...fine....when Santa brings the bike wheels, I will buy into Santa and the ability of my bike to be competitive. But until that, will sit on my hands at home on Sunday afternoon, eat popcorn, and drink soda until I see that Santa delivers something of competitive value to my homes and not just others. Just don't bad mouth me Santa, and expect me to enter the race on a bike with a bad wheels, which will in all likelihood crash in the ditch, and give me embarrassment, frustration, and injury.
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    As my buddy Jonnyg would say, "hysterical". Every year when free agency begins little Bobbie Bucfan acts like a kid sitting around a Christmas tree with his 31 (other teams) siblings and cousins waiting for Santa (Mark Dominik) to arrive with gifts. But Mom and Dad ( Joel & Bryan Glazer) are busy cleaning out Bobbie's toy box ridding themselves of toys they don't like anymore even though Bobbie says they still work just fine. Worse yet, Mom and Dad and are allowing his less fortunate cousins (with the really good parents) to take Bobbie's old toys. The cousins jump for joy as they play with Bobbie's GI Joe (Bennett) and Hulk (Miller) action figures. Bobbie is left to pout as toy after toy is removed from his closet. But every once in a while one of Bobbie's aunts gives Bobbie an old toy that his cousins don't play with anyway (Crabtree, Ogletree). This makes Bobbie all the more angry as he thinks the cousins are getting the better of him and will pick on him later. Finally Santa (Mark Dominik) arrives. He gives a really nice Power Ranger (Goldson) to Bobbie. But now is passing out toy after toy to Bobbie's cousins. Bobbie starts to throw a tantrum because he thinks he is being left out and he really needs this one good toy (Cornerback) because all of his are too old (Ronde) or don't work well enough (Biggers). To keep Bobbie from putting his finger down his throat or holding his breath, Santa (Mark Dominik) tells little Bobbie that this very special toy that had to get repaired first (Revis) might soon be in his stocking. But that might mean Bobbie doesn't get any new toys next Draft (Christmas). Bobbie doesn't know what else to do but stick his tongue out at Santa for being mean and his parents for being cheap. He wants all of the new toys and wants to keep his old toys too. Doesn't it just suck being Bobbie?
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    scubog, funny and right on!
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    Meanwhile, all Bobbie's friends toy boxes are getting bigger - while Bobbie gets to try to make due with broken down junk. Isn't that fun? Let's all put our money down to watch Bobbie play with broken junk again!
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    I heard on the radio that even though the Bronco's would've resigned Dumerville at a lower price, they were prepared to move on and are not at all broken up about it. The discussion revolved around his run defense being quite poor & not even that special as a pass rusher. Could he help us? Maybe, but he might be a downgrade from MB and want much more than he's worth.
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    I have complete faith in Dominik and Schiano . They are geniuses . We are in great hands, be proud of them .
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    I'm in the minority, but I don't get a lot of you. Nobody remembers the Eagles? You can't piece together a 2ndary. Goldson is a monster signing and that guy is going to wear a C for the 2ndary. He makes Barron & that D better. Worst case, there are still some solid vets who can come in and shore up the CB spots before TC--but that is worst case. Miller? Bennet? Just as run defense flows out to the CB's these days, pass defense flows up to the DL. DE's must have good feet and be able to fall into coverage on passing downs. What's a passing down? 1&10, 2&6, 3rd and ANYTHING. Why would you want to suck against any team that runs a hurry up style offense that is geared to keep your situational players standing on the sideline? Sorry Roy, but engaging Dbl teams is different than dominating the nose position. Everybody Donna Summer. I'm pretty sure Dom knows he must win now. It's a long off season.
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    You tell em Raheem33, thats right. Ole Drew Brees and Matt Ryan would rather have a good bait of the shingles or hooping cough than to have to deal with Revis , twice a year .
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    If THE BUCS really neglect the CB & DL spots this year in FA and draft, I will have no choice but to abandon ship. I won't be able to conciously justify spending my extremely hard earned money on a consistently sub par team. It will be very apparent that the team isn't serious about winning anything anytime soon. I am sure Bennett wanted to start but, he might have been rotating him with Bowers anyway. MB disappearing for long stretches was a real thing too. Perhaps that's what the team saw on tape as well. We need someone that is relentless and never stops and plays the run as good as him. IMO, DL are like RBs you can never have too many of them.
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    I love the Bucs as much as anyone but you all are smoking dope if you think that this Revis trade is going to happen. Even if by some miracle it happens I do not see him signing for more than one year. I usually trust Dominik but I think he really blew it this time. After last year I fully expected him to be proactive in FA. There were a few FA's that were worth trying to sign but as usual the Bucs are standing pat just like they used to do prior to last year. If you think attendance was bad last year you ain't seen nothing yet if Dominik does not come through. It is even more imperative now that they have lost so many defensive players in the last week. If Revis is a no show Dominik better have the greatest draft of all time or he definitely will be history. It seems the Bucs always stop here. Dom should have tried to sign at least one CB and DE.
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    This article is really too funny. Fans are impatient with the pace of signings. Well la te frickin' da. Please tell me when fans had more information than the people who do this day in, day out. Mark Dominik is doing things exactly as he should. A liitle patience is what is required here. The typical group of chicken littles always seem to come out of the woodwork.
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    What survey have you conducted to suggest fans are frustrated with what Dominik has accomplished in free agency thus far? Who did the Ravens go out and acquire last year that was so special? The free agency winners are pretty much never Super Bowl winners. Best for the deteriorating insight at Pewter Report to take a rest and wait for the offseason to end before declaring the Bucs losers. The Falcons replaced one over-the-hill RB for another and the Panthers have done nothing. Still early Buc fans. Let's sit back and watch before prematurely judging.
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    Will the Bucs be contenders for the playoffs this year? No - and I'm just talking contender. Even if they could get there they aren't going anywhere. The front office of this team have absolutely no clue how to win. Malcolm - we really miss you.
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    R Barber is done a CB. He does not have the speed thats why they moved him to safety and he got burned there. It's time to move on. The Buc's are saying they want him back for PR reasons and to let him down easy. If Dominik has a plan it sure MUST BE A WHOPPER. If Dominik thinks he is going to get Wright on the cheap he might, but does a team want an unhappy player playing for them ? To bring any of our CB's back as starters is a huge error. To trade for Revis and to give up a 1st in any year and pay him the money he wants is another huge error ! I can't wait to SEE THIS WHOPPER !
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    Best case senario is we get Revis. Which I'm confident we will, Jets would be stupid to keep him and get nothing when he comes to the Bucs in FA next year. We are the only team with the cap space and desire to get him. Worst case we keep Wright and Ronde probably gives us one more year. We draft DT in the first round and CB in 2nd and 3rd. I would like to see us grab a veteran DE in FA though. I'm not worried, some Bucs fans jump on just as quickly as they jump off. Grimes is still out there and I imagine he is going to wait till he's healthier to try and maximize his value a bit more. Additionally wouldn't you all like to have Revis running before we trade for him I know it would mske me feel better. Patience my friends.
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    I agree with Bensez, except the part about keeping Wright. He isn't much better than Biggers so I don't care how cheap we could keep him. Trade for Revis, then draft a DT and a CB with the first two picks in the draft (whatever rounds they end up being in). Finally if they can't afford Grimes even after cutting Wright then pick up a RT like A. Smith or Vollimer.
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    Teams much better than us have gotten even better. We've done nothing. We have no pass rush and no coverage. Disappointment. I'm so down on the Bucs now. Listen, we dont make the playoffs this year, then Dom needs to go and freeman needs to go. That would be six years of no playoffs. In today's NFL that's a frickin generation.
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    this might be the plan...pair up goldson with barron as the safetys...i think dom might believe barron will develop in year 2 and playing with goldson can only help and increase his progress...bump ronde back to corner and pair him with either revis or grimes...so possibly steal grimes away from atlanta...in fact if they can land both revis and grimes, and get ronde back for another year to play as like a floater between the 2 positions....either safety or corner as needed...maybe sign biggers as a backup and leonard johnson should be kept for developmental purposes...gorrer should not be on the squad....if we can get these guys and draft a corner early in the draft we are good...as ronde definitely wont be here after this season, and it's questionable if he even comes back this year...revis might bolt too after a year if we aquire him...leaving us with grimes and a top rookie who hopefully develops for more playing time in year 2...and as said earlier, keep leonard johnson or biggers or both as back ups...and maybe cody grimm can play like he did a couple years back as a backup safety if he is even still in the mix.....if somehow this far fetched senario can come to fruition we are all set...otherwise the team is left blowing in the wind....adam from ny
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    Bucism1, this has nothing to do with your post (although I think you suggest a very good plan), I just wanted to say that I love your avatar.
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    My Revis backup plan: RD 1 - X Rhodes (hope he makes it past Miami), RD 2 - D.Slay or L.Ryan, RD 3 or 4 (whichever necessary) T. Mathieu. Who cares if they are all rookies!! Opposing wideouts will only want to run comebacks and 10 yard outs to stay away from the hardest hitting safety tandem in the league!!
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    Also I have to disagree on picking up Dumervill, I dont think he fits a need with the bucs at all and will command a much higher price than we want to allocate for a backup. Denver had him coming back at 8 million down from 12. He will never accept in the 4-6 range which is more than we could hope for (see Bennett, Mike) Maybe PR can shed some light on any upcoming visits at the team facility, or maybe some that have occurred and not been reported??? I am shocked we are not on Grimes list as he begins to tour teams facilities.
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    Clearwater - I also feel like the bucs should push hard for Grimes, I initially thought he would not come to Tampa after leaving a contender like Atlanta. However, after his visits with the dolphins and now the browns this may not be a hindrance. The fact that those two teams have been among the highest spenders thus far on defensive free agents suggest to me Grimes is chasing some greenbacks and is less about a SB. GG720 - You would bet on an ACL rather than an Achilles? This logic blows me away, ever since MVPeterson made his miraculous run people think an ACL is no big deal. The reality is many players take a full season and subsequent offseason to fully recover their speed and agility, crucial for a CB. I would also argue the bucs might disagree with you. By letting Bennett walk they are putting all their eggs in the Bowers basket, though he is similarly coming off an Achilles tear. Both are serious injuries, i honestly think Grimes is less risk in that dept. people forget before his ACL, Revis suffered a concussion, this has been largely neglected in the media to my surprise.
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    We go through these same discussions every year at this time. Anyone remember - why don't we trade for Anquan Boldin? Who is the QB going to throw to? Last year was similar, but then they made the big FA splash. Oh, and then they drafted a bunch of good players. The same will happen this year. They will draft good players where needed (likely DL & C) and will supplement with decent free agents. And if Revis comes without giving away the farm (ie a #1 pick) via trade, then our secondary looks pretty good again, huh? They play no games until August, and mark my words, the Bucs will have enough quality players to field a full team when that time comes. Thanks for the balanced article this time, PR.
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    How have the BUCS faired in "Free Agency" to date: 1. LOST: Bennett and Miller...our best defensive linemen last year. 2. SIGNED: Goldson, Crabtree, Ogletree, Casillas, Blount, Irvin and Te'o-Nesheim. Other than Goldson, all are "reserve" players. 3. TRADE: A. Benn to the Eagles. Good move, he wouldn't have made the roster this year anyway! 4. SALARY DISPUTE: The Bucs prevailed on the Eric Wright salary dispute and his future with the Bucs is up to the Bucs. The Bucs began with $40 million to work with this year and have chosen to focus on second tier players, with the exception on Goldson. The result to date is that the Bucs are less talented today than ten days ago and if anyone believes that the draft will fix the Bucs problems......you must be smoking something funny!!! The stadium is going to be empty this fall and only the Bucs are to blame, even if the Revis trade materializes. These are sad times!!!
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    Billbyrne - exactly bill, exactly. Very disappointing times.
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    While everyone is griping about Bennett remember this, he was left one on one all season, ALL 16 games and while 9 sacks seem like good deal, it should have been way more... Bennett went sometimes 3 and 4 games without a sack, I am sorry but when your getting left one on one all the time you have to produce more than 9 sacks. could you imagine if a Von Miller, or A. Smith was left one on one all game for 16 games? So yes on paper his 9 sacks seems great but when you think about the situation he was left in game after game its really not all that impressive....
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    Their is a plan. But not every year can be spent on free agency. There are certain players are being targeted here. Our secondary is already better with goldston, and if we can land Revis that will be even better. We're trying to get as much cap room as possible so that we can sign Revis once we trade for him. That's what I feel we're doing. We were very active last year. Got two of the best fa on the market. Even this yr getting goldston was huge. Another solid player on the defensive side of the ball. This is a big yr for the organization. I doubt that they are oblivious to what they need...
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    Count me as frustrated and confused. Pewter report says the Bucs didn't value corners as much as others. I understand that, but how about playing a little poker? So far every free agent corner has been ignored by Dominick. Smith, Talib, Allen, Cason, Grimes, Winfield, DRC, non have even made a visit to One Buc Place. My eight year old knows the Bucs need a corner, you think that the Jets aren't going to hold out for top dollar? We have put all our attention on Revis and everyday another CB goes off the market the price gets higher. I've read that Revis is on vacation in Paris and isn't available to take a physical. Why not bring someone in for a look see and at least give the impression we have options? Have we even had any other PLAYERS in for visits, regardless of position. Say we don't get Revis, how about spending money on Vollmer or Andre Smith? Everyone also knows we need DE depth, but Abraham, Freeney, and Dumerville are all headed to the "contenders". I really am hoping for Revis, but now I'm guessing the cost will be this years first and a second next season, which seems way to much too pay, but we have no choice. Very very frustrating.
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    Every NFL front office has a "plan." However despite the rhetoric coming from One Buc they haven't executed one and look completely oblivious to their own roster. Actions speak louder than words, ladies. History appears to show that Dominik is not a fan of getting moderately priced free agents to compete with his current roster. He either goes for the top guy at a position or scrubs. I don't agree with that strategy and if the complete lack of depth at certain positions over the years indicates, neither does history.
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    Some fans treat free agency like they're kids whose grandparents gave them $50 and turned them loose in the toy store. And they buy every pretty and shiny thing they see, only to realize they're out of money when they find the thing they really want.
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    Just leave Dominick alone/ He is doing a fine job. Last years draft of Martin/Barron/David- Free agents Jackson/Nicks are as good a job of aquiring talent as any team in the league. Plus the cap is in good order. People have to remember Mccoy and Freeman are up next year and we need money to sign them also. Plus we got the best safety by far in Goldson . I dont understand why people are even questioning him right now.
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    Well Hello !! ya just let go your third round draft pick after four years for 2.2 mil , there isn't a starting nose tackle ,third round pick that is going to resign for any less.So either you are in cap hell , didn't draft good or just plain confused and are doing a terrible job building through the draft. The fans aren't the ones that said they are building through the Draft. NOT POSSIBLE not enough picks to ever have a finished product when you don't resign your own your guys at great prices.We will see if we replace Millers and Bennets production over the next three years for 7mil a year, it can still be done but not through the draft.Freeney? 4 mil?
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    We are frustrated because we want to WIN. We aren't looking to be in good cap order, I'm not looking to make sure we have money IF Freeman has a good year, I want to watch him have a good season and then worry about getting him signed. We are always building for "next year". Next year is now.
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    Thx Raheem. I quite frankly don't give a damn how you look at it...if we don't make the playoffs this year it will be 6 years. That tells a franchises success, not where our salary cap is or if rookies are playing rookie honors. What a year this is gonna be. We are relying on so many question marks. Can freeman be more consistent? Will bowers and Claiborne stay healthy and play up to their potential? Who is going to cover WRs from the corner spot? Will Barron prove that he can play in space? Big season! If we don't answer most of those questions with a yes, we may see many more than 6 straight years of no playoffs.
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    Dominick is waiting for other teams to sign current FA CB's before releasing Wright or restructuring his contract so we can get him cheap as he wont be able to sign elsewhere. Regardless if Bennett was hot/cold all season; he was worth 5mill for 1 year. Great against the run, hard worker and good attitude. Bowers is good, but has alot of negatives off the field and injuries, cant rely on him for 16 games like we could bennett. Teo'Neisham is a one trick pony- all hustle, not much technique or athleticism. Hopefully clayborn comes back 100% b/c hes our only hope at this point unless we can get Dion Jordan. Castillas for 3million? thats a joke. you dont pay 3million/year for backup LB's. I'm hoping to get Revis, even if he isnt as fluid/fast he still has the experience awareness and physicality to be in the top 5-10 CB's in the NFL. He's worth a 2nd and 3rd rounder + at this point IMO. Mike Jenkins (CB) is someone Monte Kiffin wanted when he came out of south florida, I wouldnt mind seeing him in pewter and red. Dumervil is a terrible person, i dont want him in Tampa. Maybe Margus Hunt is on our radar- 6'8" and 38x225 bench with 4.70 40 time, he has pass rush skills. Also Duke Williams (S, Nevada) looks like a diamond in the rough. Leon McFadden (CB, SD state) is another mid round option
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    Dominick has true grit...to maintain his position in the face of all the media and fan pressure. More so b/c he is on the Hotseat this season. He will get the Revis deal done (our 2nd rd pick plus whatever pick in 2014). Patience, however, he will not give up the 13th pick for it. He needs that to draft the best available DT on their board. (Lotulelei or Sheldon either is much better than Miller). The rest of the picks will vary amongst our needs. (Blount may be paired with our 3rd rd pick to move up a round). Furthermore, he is hanging on to Wright until the rest of the 31 NFL teams have their roster settled. Then he will renegotiate wrights contract. Wright will have to accept b/c their is no place else to go. Along the way, Dom will Pluck Practice Squad Gems for Depth
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    Facts are the facts some where around eight d lineman taken in the 2012 draft and only one has the numbers( less sacks) to match MBennets, that's eight first rounders ( not one with 9 sacks)or eight years for an individual team. Bennett was a FA which is a bigger bonus, not one of those eight can play both ends , tackle and rush tackle.I don't want to pay too much for Bennett ( 8) mil , but the fact is a rookie can't replace that at DL...... If a team is building through the draft they have to be willing to re up there good players, I will assure you that any of those eight number ones that have M Bennett type numbers in four years will command much more than a cap proportionate share of 5 mil.Its not necessarily Bennett per say but there is clearly something at one buc that is odd? A very well educated and respected nfl person was just talking the other day and was very professional in which how he spoke regarding the bucs, but in my opinion he felt the situation this year was laughable to this point.He sounded as frustrated as the fans and he has the credentials know so.
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    Let the Jets choke on Revis if they want a first rounder. I agree with Dominik on that. Get Dumervil no matter what.
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    Where is all this supposed Bucs interest about Revis coming from? It's not coming from PR fans, the last time I looked at PR's poll on the topic. They said stay away!!!
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    Sign Dumervil and Revis, like yesterday!!
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    Sign Dumervil and don't give up the farm if Reavis is still a possibility. I would rather take a chance with an ACL than a Achilles tendon like Grimes is getting over.
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    For everyone sitting on pins and needles waiting to see the plan, this is a very interesting article to read http://www.bucsnation.com/2013/3/15/4103976/the-revis-economy-why-tampa-should-hold-firm-on-their-offer/in/3860609
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    CanadianBucFan, I read that article yesterday. It was interesting and made some good points. I still wish we could land Revis, Grimes, and Dumervil, but at this point, I'm expecting none of the 3.
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    "Sources told PewterReport.com that the organization liked both players but believe it can upgrade the positions with more productive players. " I think for that plan to work you need to sign someone to do the replacing don't you?
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    Glad to see that PR understands and feels the same way as most fans instead of giving the typical, cliche, public-relations bull like other organizations.
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