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April 17, 2013 @ 8:46 pm
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24 Reasons Why The Bucs Need To Trade For Revis

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Will Tampa Bay wind up pulling the trigger on a trade for New York's Pro Bowl cornerback Darrelle Revis? PewterReport.com's Scott Reynolds lists 24 reasons why the Bucs need to trade for No. 24 from the Jets.
With increased speculation that a trade between Tampa Bay and New York involving Pro Bowl cornerback Darrelle Revis could happen in the week leading up to the 2013 NFL Draft, PewterReport.com’s Scott Reynolds examines 24 reasons why the Buccaneers should pull the trigger and acquire No. 24 from the Jets.

1. The Bucs know the Jets have to trade Revis. Because of a contract stipulation, the Jets cannot franchise him past the 2013 season, and there has been no indication that Jets owner Woody Johnson wants to pay Revis anywhere close to his asking price of $15 million per year. First-year New York general manager John Idzik can’t risk losing Revis after the 2013 season and getting only a compensatory pick in 2014 in return. That’s a fireable offense for losing a Pro Bowler that is considered to be the NFL's top cornerback.

2. The Jets can’t afford to have the Revis situation become a distraction this offseason. Between Tim Tebow and Mark Sanchez, the Jets already have enough distractions for the New York media to write about. The fact that head coach Rex Ryan is on the hot seat this year is a clear indication that the Jets need to become a focused team in 2013.

3. The Buccaneers have a desperate need at the cornerback position. The team traded away last year’s starter, Aqib Talib, and was disappointed in fellow starter Eric Wright, who only got the chance to stay at a reduced price. The Bucs need a major talent infusion at cornerback and Revis, a five-time Pro Bowler, is considered to be the best in the NFL.

4. There isn’t a single cornerback in the draft better than Revis in terms of talent. There won’t be a better cornerback available with the 13th overall pick – not even Alabama’s Dee Milliner. Is a first- and second-round pick too much of an investment in a Pro Bowl cornerback? Absolutely not.

5. Revis brings experience and his addition would not force the Bucs to start a rookie at cornerback. Acquiring Revis would give Tampa Bay two veteran cornerbacks, and possibly three if Ronde Barber returns to play nickel cornerback in 2013.

6. The Bucs have the salary cap room (north of $32 million) to pay Revis top dollar – even if that means $15 million per year. That’s why the Bucs are the only team interested in Revis and negotiating with the Jets to acquire him. Not many teams have the cap room to take on a huge contract, which is why Revis is not in huge demand.

7. Revis’ agents are the same as those who represent Pro Bowl wide receiver Vincent Jackson. Bucs general manager Mark Dominik has a good rapport with Neil Schwartz and Jonathan Feinsod and can ably negotiate a big, fair deal for Revis that will as cap-friendly as possible while meeting the Pro Bowlers’ demands.

8. With a big contract, which Revis has been wanting for years in New York, the Pro Bowler won’t complain about money while making between $10-$15 million per year. A big money contract should keep Revis happy and in training camp without holdouts for years to come, which should give head coach Greg Schiano some peace of mind.

9. Tampa Bay plays a lot of press coverage with their cornerbacks, and Revis is one of the most gifted defenders well versed in press technique. Revis is physical for his size and would give defensive coordinator Bill Sheridan and assistant Bob Fraser the ability to be more flexible and take more chances with safeties Dashon Goldson and Mark Barron.

10. Not only is Revis a cornerback, he is a shutdown cornerback. He has the ability to simply take away star wide receivers in the division, such as Atlanta’s Julio Jones or Carolina’s Steve Smith, whom the Bucs face twice a year in the NFC South.

11. The NFC South is a quarterback-rich division with the likes of Drew Brees, Matt Ryan and Cam Newton. The NFC South teams, especially New Orleans and Atlanta, are pass-heavy in terms of their offense. The Bucs can expect to see 40-plus passes every time they play the Saints and Falcons, and possibly the Panthers, too. That puts a premium on having talented cornerbacks on Tampa Bay’s roster.

12. Barber, Tampa Bay’s legendary defensive back, would love to play alongside Revis and has gone on record supporting the idea of a trade. Revis could learn a lot from being around Barber, and if the Bucs acquired the Jets Pro Bowler, it could help sway Barber’s decision to return for another year.

13. Acquiring Revis makes starting cornerback Eric Wright better. With Revis drawing the opposing team’s best receiver, it allows Wright to match up better with opponents’ No. 2 receivers. Wright could benefit from the addition of Revis the way Mike Williams benefited from Tampa Bay signing Jackson in free agency last year.

14. Trading for Revis makes Tampa Bay’s secondary a team strength instead of a team weakness. A secondary that features two Pro Bowlers in Revis and free safety Dashon Goldson, in addition to former first-round pick Mark Barron, who should be better with a year’s worth of experience under his belt, Wright and another corner – possibly Barber or a high 2013 draft pick – is suddenly a formidable lineup.

15. Revis would improve Tampa Bay’s receiving corps in practice. Having a stellar cornerback such as Revis cover the likes of Jackson, Mike Williams and the other Bucs receivers on a daily basis will only make the team’s receivers better and battle-tested for the 2013 regular season.

16. Not only would Revis help Tampa Bay’s receivers in practice, he would also help quarterback Josh Freeman, who is entering a big contract year. By challenging Freeman with tight coverage in practice, he can help the team’s fifth-year quarterback learn to throw into tighter windows to avoid interceptions.

17. There is nothing like stellar cornerback play that can help out a team’s pass rush. The Bucs defense ranked near the bottom of the NFL in sacks and Tampa Bay’s defensive line could use the opportunity to get more coverage sacks with Revis taking away one half of the field. Coverage sacks were few and far between in Tampa Bay in 2012.

18. Revis should fit into Tampa Bay’s locker room quite well as he has familiarity with new special teams coach Dave Wannstedt and safeties coach Jeff Hafley. Wannstedt was his head coach at Pittsburgh and Hafley was the Panthers’ secondary coach.

19. Revis was a team captain in New York, and Dominik and the Bucs love acquiring team captains and put a premium on leadership. With Barber possibly not returning in 2013, the Bucs – especially at the cornerback position – could use another leader in the defensive backs room to go along with Goldson.

20. Former Jets general manager Mike Tannenbaum recently praised Revis for taking an interest in helping New York’s practice squad players. Revis is a person of high character, who has been mislabeled as arrogant and greedy. He could be an excellent role model for young Buccaneers if he were to continue that practice in Tampa Bay.

21. Revis has a couple of years worth of playoff experience, which is something the Bucs locker room lacks. Only a handful of Tampa Bay players have played in the postseason, and most of them are newcomers from the past year or two, such as Jackson, Goldson and Pro Bowl left guard Carl Nicks. Revis adds to that list of playoff-tested Buccaneers.

22. Revis has something to prove, and it’s always smart to acquire driven, motivated players. Revis would come to Tampa Bay wanting to prove to the Bucs, the Jets and the rest of the NFL that he is worth the amount of money Dominik would bestow on him. The player nicknamed “Revis Island” is also coming off a torn ACL that cost him most of the 2012 season. After seeing a star player like Minnesota running back Adrian Peterson bounce back with a 2,000-yard rushing season, the competitive Revis would want to come back strong, too.

23. The Bucs need help selling season tickets, and nothing helps drive ticket sales like star power. Trading for Revis would generate a real positive buzz among Bucs fans for all of the reasons mentioned in this article. It’s doubtful that his presence alone would create sellouts at Raymond James Stadium, but adding Revis will undoubtedly help sell some tickets.

24. If Dominik is successful in orchestrating a trade for Revis this year, it’s another feather in his cap in terms of acquiring Pro Bowl talent. Dominik, who is on the hot seat in Tampa Bay this year, will have successfully brought three Pro Bowlers to the Bucs in Revis, Jackson and Nicks over the past two offseasons, in addition to drafting a Pro Bowler in running back Doug Martin, and future stars in Barron and linebacker Lavonte David. Dominik has all the motivation to work with Idzik, his former Tampa Bay colleague, and make this trade happen.


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    Three reasons not to - he's too old, he's too expensive, and he's human, so if we don't have a better pash rush this season his performance will suffer. And this of course assumes the ACL, despite the demands of playing DB and at his age, isn't a problem. You only do this deal if you are reacting to pressure to win this season instead of building for the next 5+ yrs. Unfortunately both Dom and the Glazers may be feeling just that. Hope not.
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    I'm in favor of a deal that doesn't include this year's 1st round pick. Give them next year's 1 and this year's 3 if that has to be the price...but not the 2013 1st round pick which is way better than what Seattle ponied up for Harvin. Hopefully the 2014 pick isn't in the top 20. Now, that said, some of these reasons are severe reaches. For example, 15 & 16, which suggest the Buc passing game will improve facing Revis in practice. Just look what that has done for the Jet's passing game!
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    1st this year and 3rd round pic NEXT year. The reason this deal hasn't happened is that it's all about price at this point and he's not worth 3 draft pics. I'd go 1st and 3rd in different years at the absolute most at this point. We don't know that he isn't going to complain at 15 million a year. We don't know that he's worth that big a contract. I think the only reason the pick compensation is even as high as it is is due to the Percy Harvin trade... Who I still say is a bigger impact player than Revis. Not for any other reason than the nature of the position.
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    For some reason I didn't catch this article when it was posted. Nice to read a lot of comments respectful of others' opinions. I'm in favor of a trade for Revis if the compensation is from our position of strength in the negotiations. (what else are the Jets to do?) The maximum I would be able to offer would be our first round pick this year and nothing more. I'm going to assume the medical questions will be answered as best they can at this stage of rehabilitation. I am also going to assume that the future salary cap implications have also been well calculated. That said, if I were sitting on Mark Dominik's "warm seat" I would sit tight and hold onto our first pick next Thursday evening and select the best player available or (you'll love this Horse) trade down. Dominik would then be able to negotiate with Idzik from an even stronger position. Fun huh?
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    Revis is a great player and if healthy he would undoubtedly help the team. My concern is the high salary and how it will affect the cap down the road. We do have some players up for contract renewal. The other concern is giving up a lot of draft picks for a team that is in the rebuilding mode unless some are next year. Giving up a one, three and five this year is alot. I really do not care what the Harvin trade did for market value.This is a completely different scenario. The jury is still out on the Revis injury despite the fact that recent reports say that he is making progress ahead of schedule. It is still a big risk. I just still believe it is too much to give up for any player even if they are a super star. This has just as much chance to be a setback as it is does to be a success. I like Revis but I wonder if he is worth all that.
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    tjbucsman just wait until Harvin misses 2 or 3 games with migranes. Then this won't be seen as such a coup for the Seahawks. I hope when we go out to Seattle it is a Harvin migrane day !!!
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    Note: It is incorrect to assume that the Jets will even get a 3rd round compensatory selection. The Chargers received ZERO compensation for losing Vincent Jackson to Bucs as the Chargers signed so many other free agents which offset the V Jax signing. The Jets might do the same next season as they look to improve the roster. THIS GIVES DOMINICK EVEN MORE LEVERAGE IN TRADE TALKS. If I were Dominick, I would: 1.) INSIST on allowing the Buc's doctors evaluate Revis' knee before the draft 2.) THEN Balk at whatever compensation the Jets ask for if it includes our #13 pick in Round 1 3) and then WAIT UNTIL DRAFT DAY. Trade down in 1st round (team like Cowboys will look to move up for Safety Kenny Vaccaro or one of the stud Guards, Chance Warmack or Jonathan Cooper), pick up extra picks and then trade the lower 1st round pick to the Jets and a 3rd or 4th (4th would be better as we have 2 4th rounders) and maybe an extra 6th that we got from Benn trade. This way we get Revis and pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd round pick. If we trade with the Cowboys, the difference in 13th pick and 18th pick (http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php) is 250 points which is equivalent to the Cowboys 3rd round pick (190 points) and their 4th round pick (66 points) and we could throw in a 7th round pick next year (3-14 points) or maybe our 2nd 6th this year (13 points). This trade with Jets would allow them to save face by getting a 1st round pick and also enable us to pick up an extra 3rd and 4th, of which we could use atleast 1 of those in trade for Revis.
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    I'm glad the BUCS are not giving in to the JETS unrealistic demands. The JETS cannot risk losing Revis after this season and get NOTHING (except a 3rd rd compensatory pick). The BUCS should play hardball and offer a couple of 2nd rounders (this year and next year) plus a fourth. If, in the unlikely event, Revis stays with the JETS, the BUCS may still be the only team willing and able to sign him. And then we give up nothing. Stay focused DOM and don't blink.
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    Scott, these articles are nice and everything but please please please write one that addresses the CAP issues in relation to signing our young players that will need extensions (McCoy, Williams, Freeman, Foster...)
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    All I have to say is the Bucs plus Revis equals Bevis and that would make Dom the Butthead! Don't do it!
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    buctebow Bevis and Butthead is a great one...LOL....Maybe we should have them throw Tebow into the deal if he'll agree to play only TE/Hback.
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    Well Buc Fans this will be the last time you're hear from the #1 Tampa bay Fan in Texas.Is Because I grewup in Tampa.And Texas Is My Home People up here in Texas are all Cowboys,Texans and some Saints Fans. Tomorrow I will be flying down to Tampa My Home town where I grewup and went to schoole at PLANT High School. I will be looking to hear that Tampa got their CB. And In the Draft Tampa picks up a big DE or DT and a BIG OT/G and a few CB that will learn from the best. I have my picks who Tampa should go after. I say give Jets the #1 this year along with a 4 &6, and Maybe a No#3 or #4 next year. But regardless of what Tampa does. This could be a change in Command in the NFC South Division.I TRUELY BELIEVE THAT TAMPA WITH REVIS & BARBER ARE PLAYOFF BOUND. GO BUCS SEE YOU AFTER THE DRAFT.AND TAMPA FINALLY GETS RESPECT.GLHICKS US ARMY MEDIC VETERAN + 23 years.
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    stbucsfan- I have to say your OPINIONS (that's all they are) are well thought out and may be true. The truth is you have no idea as do any of us until some point in the future. I am glad that you retracted your statement about "belittle" the bucs fan. I STRONGLY disagree with your opinion and Scotts as well for that matter. We probably will end up giving up a first this year and a 3rd as well. Scott, yourself, and some others will be happy about it. We are going to find out soon enough but I truly hope my hunch is wrong and no deal is done. I truly want to build through the draft and stay on the course that has made the Bucs ascend from where they were 2 years ago. Many successful teams that are consistently winners and making the playoffs build through the draft. I have yet to see Baltimore, San Fran, Pittsburgh, Seattle, and yes New England take the approach you take.(QB excluded) IMO even if New England could afford Revis they would not pay him that kind of money. Baltimore dumped many good FA this year and I bet they still make the playoffs. One player does not define a team. Revis will not make the Bucs get to the playoffs. What to do next year for McCoy and Freeman (if he does well this year). DOM was given a good scenario from Bruce Allen and then from the Glazers not spending for anyone for 2 years. I am not going to say DOM is this great cap guy just because he has influences from working with former GM's that were accomplished. (Washington has the cap under control and made the playoffs thanks to Bruce). The jury is still out with DOM. Without Revis who is to say we can't make the playoffs. I STILL think we have the upper hand and can trade for this year's second but only right before or after the draft. The Jets cannot spend that kind of money on Revis after this year with so many holes to fill...sound familiar?? Isn't that what got the Jets in trouble, they spent a boat load of money in FA with all these elite corners..how did that work out??
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    1sparkybuc: I agree with your take on things here. Besides, maybe I'm just trapped back in the glory days of the tampa-two but, I prefer playing zone to having to pay prima donna corners to chase WRs all over the field anyway. I like the idea of our DBs being able to look back into the opponents backfield, watching the QB's eyes, waiting to grab an INT, or able to come up quickly in run support as needed. And you don't need CBs who think they should be paid like QBs for that. You just need good, solid, bring their lunch bucket, football players and hitters like, say maybe, Ronde Barber. Whether we're predominately playing zone or playing man behind, it's real important to be putting big pressure on the opposing QB. Preferably with just our front four, which is why I keep trying to sell the idea that our biggest need in the upcoming draft is at nose tackle.
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    After McCoy who made it the entire season for the first time,who do we got at D tackle? Exactly why we can't give up #13. Had Price worked out we wouldn't be having this conversation. So while ya'll are worried about corners, D tackle should be a higher priority. Without help there, Revis will be stranded on that island. We've added Goldson, and whatever you think of him Wright's coming back with something to prove. Maybe Ronde, Barron in his second year, and at least two more corners in the draft. Look at the names at D tackle, still think we need Revis more then we need help there?
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    suferdudes, I right with you.
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    surferdudes I couldn't agree more about getting a stout DT at 13. I don't think Lotuleile will be there because the doctors said his high bp and irregular heartbeat were due to an infection he had at the combine and not a permanent condition. So Star is a top 5 talent and we won't have the option of taking him at 13 anyway. I think we could go for Sylvester Williams or Kawann Short or maybe Jon Jenkins, Johnathan Hankins or Jessie Williams a little later say in round 2 or maybe 3. But I am in love with what Tavon Austin could do for our offense. I think this kid is the most electric player in the draft. He could make the Bucs offense lethal. I'm glad someone else is making the decision because I would be in a quandry if Lotuleile and Austin were both on the board when we pick at 13. I would have to take Austin at 13 and get a DT in the second. We need a NT not a 3 tech, so I say go for the DT in round 2. I would think Jenkins, Hankins and Jesse Williams would be there in round 2. I think Sylvester Williams and Short have a good chance of going in round 1.
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    As much as the Jets want this year's #1, do they really have a choice if we only offer them next year's #1? Is there any other team that is even offering that much? If so why is everybody at ESPN saying that the Bucs are the only team interested? I hope we get Revis, but I also hope we use this year's #1 on the Bucs and not on the Jets. Imagine Wright, Revis & (Rhodes, Austin, Star, Trufant, Eifert, etc....)
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    GET IT DONE ALREADY ! WE WANT HIM , WE NEED HIM ,THEY ARE WILLING TO TRADE HIM. THE END! LISTEN THATS THE WHOLE POINT OF THE DRAFT TO FILL IN AREAS OF NEED .WHAT BIGGER NEED DO WE HAVE?SOME TIMES IN LIFE YOU SPEND A LITTLE MORE TO GET SOMETHING YOU REALLY WANT OR NEED .WE ALL HAVE DONE IT.THIS IS DEFINETLY ONE OF THE TIMES.GET IT OVER WITH SO WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE DRAFT WITH THE PICKS WE DO HAVE LEFT AND FILL SOME OTHER NEEDS .REVIS IS A NO BRAINER. DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Unless there is some catastrophic meltdown in the details of this deal, the trade IS GOING to happen. I wonder what # Revis will wear since i highly doubt Barron will want to give up 24.....?
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    Okay - one more thing from me....to all of those who have such great faith in Dom as a financial contract manager, I can't help but wonder where that faith comes from...I could see it if he came to the Bucs from Wall Street or a top law firm, but he has an undergraduate degree in sports management (and not from Harvard) and has spent his career scouting football talent. Why you think he is some sort of financial contract genius is beyond me...he is susceptible to the same mistakes that his counterparts have made when they signed non-QBs to major contracts...front loading aside, when your star(s) holds out because the crappy deal he signed with you isn't paying him enough (or his contract has just come due), all the frontloading in the world won't matter....you need to have real cap space available and/or real (non-guaranteed) contracts to cut. That's the flexibility you need...frontloaded deals are just short-term delays - like a bandaid, they can help for a little while but you just may need surgery. That's not to say I think we shouldn't get Revis - in fact I think that's irrelevant because we are getting Revis...I'm just tired of the man-crushes on Dom for his amazing financial contract management skills....how about we let that game play out a bit first....
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    Against the fowlgoons we adjusted the scheme. The players we have gained experience and we upgraded the coaching staff. We will upgrade the talent at CB in the draft and likely get several years more production from them than we would get from Revis. IMO, the cost in picks and in cap space is just too much. We are not one player away from a SB.
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    Honestly I hear some of you talk about Revis' knee, our draft picks and our cap space like you're afraid we're going to lose something. When you add all that up you have the Bucs which is a losing football team. We haven't won a playoff game in over 10 years! In our normal lives we may all be successful business men, fathers, policemen, electricians or part-time teachers, but as a Bucs fan you a loser. All of us are. The owners, GM, coaches, players and fans are all losers. I'm telling you that we may have something to lose by giving up our draft picks and cap space for Revis, but if you look at this at a macro level the only thing we truly have to lose is LOSING!
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    I don't want to belittle Bucs fans but rather let them know that we are not as bad as some of you think. We won 7 games last year with an awful secondary, an inconsistent Josh Freeman and a make shift secondary. If the secondary is upgraded and adding 2 Pro Bowl players does constitute as a makeover, then why are we not a playoff team? Nobody thought the Ravens would win the Super Bowl last year but they made the playoffs, got hot and we saw the rest. Adding a DT with a heart issue or Xavier Rhodes whose tape doesnt match the hype makes no sense. We have enough youth all over the field its time to add proven talent, force the youth we have drafted to step up and get to the playoffs. If we are faced with Freeman having a phenomenal season and McCoy needing to be re-up'ed bc of continued success then thats a good thing not a bad thing. Im not willing to sacrifice a golden opportunity to win on the account of potential cap issues years from now. All of Doms contracts are front loaded anyway so after year 1 and 2 most of the money has been paid. I think we are having a long drawn out debate about an issue that has been handled if we took the time to see the types of contracts he has handed out to big name players. As a Bucs fan my primary focus is fielding the best possible team for 2013 and leaving the complex issues to the man paid to do it Mark Dominick. So I apologize if I come across as belittling bc my point is that if our biggest offseason problem is that our GM is trying to sign the best corner in football then as fans we should be excited. Go Bucs!
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    There is no certainty that Revis will be any better than Dee Milliner. IMO Milliner is the best available
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    Half of those reasons also could go the way of why NOT to trade for Revis. This trade should be done AFTER the draft. If we wait until after the draft , we might as well wait till the trade deadline in OCT.
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    Why does everyone bring up AP when talking about ACL recovery like that's the only case where it happened? Revis tore his ACL at the beginning of the season. Wes Welker tore his in week 16 or 17 a few years ago and was ready week 1 and he had the same great season he always does. Welker makes his living making quick cuts just like Revis. Guys I'm telling you 90% of everybody who tears an ACL is ready to play and play well week 1 next season.
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    the difference between an running back or wide receiver tearing his ACL is not the same as a corner back tearing his ACL. The offensive player knows when the change of direction is going to happen. The defensive player does not know when to cut. That puts a lot more stress on the ACL.
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    good read. I can buy all of it, just dont give up the 13th pick to do it. next years one and a 4th this years.
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    My problem with the deal is we are basically dealing a 1st and more for one year of a recovering Revis. Yes, I am sure we won't make the deal without a longterm deal in place, but the Jets have 1 year with Revis, and then he is gone. They can't offer all that much. And what if Freeman becomes the QB we hope he can be? Elite QB's are getting 20 mill a year, that would be 35 mill in 2 players. I wouldn't mind the money without the compensation, and I wouldn't mind the compensation without the money, but when you put them together I would rather get the best DT in the first round at a fraction of the price for Revis.
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    That soudns good to me too artpac...but I think macabee is right...Dom is in his last year and needs to take a gamble....let's hope this one pays off!
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    This trade is going to happen! You're looking too closely at the Revis deal. You should be looking at what else the Jets are doing. The Jets have many needs especially QB and D-Line. CBS Sports is reporting they are bringing in Tavon Austin and is high on what he can add to their offense. The Jets are already planning how to use their 2nd 1st round pick. Expect some 3rd or 4th round conditional pick in 2014 also. Go ahead and adjust your mocks without a Buc 1st round pick. This is all over but the shower!
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    I think you're right macabee - this is all-in for 2013....let's hope the gamble pays off...and I am preparing to do my part (I guess that means cheer extra hard for Revis island)....GO BUCS!
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    All 24 reasons could be voided if Revis' ACL doesn't hold up. That's the one thing I'm thinking about that could make this a boom or bust trade. Seeing AP nearly rush for 2100 yds and capturing MVP honors after tearing his ACL the season was nothing short of a miracle.
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    I want to see the guy play post injury. Wait till next year and get him in free agency. One player does not make a whole team contrary to your 12 thru 17 analysis. To give up so much now in the draft and allocate so much salary and cap space to one still questionable player not to mention his tendency to hold out for more , is an unacceptable risk IMO. Build the team through the draft, see what you have going into 2014, then if you are satisfied with his play and still feel a need to bring him on board, go after him next year. Finally, please don't cave to the Jets. Small market or not we still have pride in our Bucs.
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    So Scot when do you take the job as editor and chief of Jets Report ? Is facilitating the Revis trade a prerequisite for being hired ? Revis has been great, but there's the matter of the knee and 15 M a year. It doesn't take but one screw up of this magnitude to coast Dominik his job as well as put the Bucs in Cap Hell for the foreseeable future. Stlbucsfan can belittle us ignorant Bucs fans all day long but when Revis came out of Pitt seven years ago, he was the first CB taken and 14th pick in the draft. However S Laron Landry out of LSU was taken at # 5 by the Skins. Revis hit the ground running and never looked back. Landry has floundered somewhat in comparison. Dashon Goldson went to the 49ers that year at in the 4th round. Who would you rather have Goldson (4-141) or Landry (1-5) ? There were 30 CBs drafted in 2007, which was seen as a bad year for CBs. For example 2013 has 30 CBs rated to be capable of starting at some point during their career. The game has changed since 2007 and because of the increased role of the forward pass, DBs and especially CBs are in higher demand. My point is there may be several CBs in this draft that arec sleepers and will perform like experienced pros from day one like Revis did. Maybe not at the same level as Revis, but good enough to blend into and improve the Bucs secondary greatly. I'll tell you something else, I wouldn't mind taking Tavon Austin and letting every other team in the NFL play catch up with our offense. I'd also take Austin to make sure the Panthers didn't. Austin would make the Panthers leathal with Newton and their RBs. He would do the same for the Bucs with Freeman, Jackson, Williams and Martin. The draft is an inexact science but I think the presense of Schiano and Butch Davis may be greatly under rated when it comes to the draft.
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    if the trade happens, what happens to Freeman's confidence when Revis covers Jackson in practice and bats down/ints quite a few of his passes?
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    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=9185626&categoryid=2378529 Adam Schefter saying the pressure is not on the Bucs to trade, but the pressure is on the Jets. If you know how to play poker and you know that you have the best hand then you shove all-in against your opponent. You don't start peeing your panties that you are not going to get all the chips.
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    Scott, Where you wrong in this article is when you said 'Revis IS a shut down corner'. The accurate statement would be 'Revis WAS a shut down corner'. Major ACL surgery for a 28 year old corner back is very serious. You do not know if Revis IS still the same player that he WAS. Also, how can you possibly say that Dee Milliner is not going to be the same type of player Revis is? He is expected to go in the top 5. Any player selected that high is expected to be a pro bowl level player. If you had done your homework and looked up a draft chart, http://walterfootball.com/draftchart.php, it would tell you that we only need to include this year's #2 to move up to get Dee Milliner. Which is a lot less expensive than what the Jets are asking for.
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    There aren't 24 good reasons. This column doesn't address the core issue, which is the compensation to the Jets. Sure, we'd love to have Revis on the team, but not if the compensation to the Jets is unreasonable.
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    Again, what about trading the entire 2013 set of draft picks to the Jets for Revis and their number nine overall pick? The Jets are wanting a 1,3,5 or something for Revis which is way too much. But if they got 1(13), 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 for Revis and 1(9). Would that be enough? Or too much? What do you Buc fans think? Number 9 which might be a stud OL (Jonathan Cooper or maybe Lane Johnson) and Revis for all our picks? Go ahead Flame on!
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    Hey arizonejoe - appreciate the creativity but it rings a little too close to the Ditka-Saints-Ricky Williams fiasco for me....having said that, we have a terrible draft history past round 3 (Mike Williams is about it) and so I would happily give up everything past the 3rd.
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    Are you serious or just stupid?
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    Great article SR. It must have been challenging coming up with 24 reasons. My favorite is #13. As a reminder to everyone Revis has shutdown both Megatron and Randy Moss the season after he scored 25 TD's. He can certainly shutdown Julio Jones. Hell, Talib shut down J. Jones his rookie season so it's not impossible.
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    At this time in our development we need draft picks. This is reaching when you have to give up a high 1st round draft pick for a 28 year old playercome off a knee injury when we have blaring needs at DT, DE, TE, LB, RB, besides the CB need. If we don't have to trade for any 1st round pick then I am okay with it. Your 24 reasons really comes down to one reason Scott? He's a very good player that would fill one of our weak positions. The question I have is it worth it? Not for a 1st rounder it is not.
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    Nice review Scott. I can't disagree with the reasons for getting Revis that are talent related - yes he will be better (even off his ACL) than any CB in this draft, yes he will make all of our secondary players better, and yes he will help neutralize some very good WRs in our division. The issue you are missing - the issue that I think exists behind most of the "no-Revis" block is that your point #6 (while factually correct - the Bucs have $30+ m in cap room now) misses the point....that being, that it is highly questionable that the Bucs have the cap room next year, or the year after, or the year after. The "no-Revis" block (and for the record I am really on the fence with this one) has consistently raised the point that signing a CB to $15m per yr is a very high risk move because 1) it will limit what existing players can stay for the medium-term (think Freeman, McCoy, Williams, Joseph, our 3 rookies from last year - all of whom could be looking for more money in new contracts soon), 2) it will eliminate the ability of the team to sign more FAs of consequence in the future to fix emerging holes (could we sign anyone next year - unlikely), 3) with no FAs it would be the high draft pick players thet we relied on as an alternative next year, but those players seem to be the ones we're about to give away to get Revis, and 4) ask teams like the Raiders or Panthers or Jets what happens when you get the cap wrong. In other words, the "no-Revis" block are not concerned about how good Revis is, they are concerned that by doing this trade we are giving up our ability to keep our other players and make our team better in the medium-term with new FAs....it's an all-in gamble and I am not sure we're 1 player away from the SB just yet? Having said that, if we get Revis - which looks very likely - my (and I expect most fans) expectations for the team go way way up...from playoff team to SB contender (because it's going to be 2013 or bust), so the front office better realize that!
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    I totally agree with you. We're not one player away and I'm not sure even Revis is worth that kind of money - especially after the injury. What is kind of sad is that we've put all of our cornerback eggs in this one basket when there were plenty of ways to go.
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    Give the Jets this years 2nd and 3rd rounder and next years 3rd for Revis. Take the 13th over all pick and trade it to Atlanta for their 1st, 2nd and 3rd. We have Revis and enough picks to get 2 additional CB's, a DT, a TE and a 3/4 rotational DE.
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    Small correction. I forget who posted it in the forums but it is a 2015 compensation pick, not a 2014 pick. If Revis plays for the Jets in 2013, then departs prior to the 2014 season, compensation picks, if any will be awarded for the following years draft, 2015.
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    Scott you wont sway the contrary Bucs fan who is always content with second best and the dreams of tomorrow but the realistic fans realize how good this trade would be and this article was a fine illustration of that. Great Read!
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    Okay, look at it like this; With the sub-par performance we got from our defensive backfield last year we lost 6 games by one score. But, in the process Leonard Johnson, Gorer, Black and the other young guys out there gained valuable experience. That was evident in the win against the Falcons in the season finale. If we didn't add anyone else, we would still be alright. All of the talk is about the poor play of the corner backs but if you watched games we got beat repeatedly with the deep ball. And in my book, that is a result of poor safety play. I hope we do go out and get Revis. I don't care if it's with the 1, 2, and 3; this year! If we add Revis with our high powered offense, we are super bowl bound. Period!
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    #8, Revis has held out twice,and was going to hold out this year, until the injury, and trade talk. That's a hold out for halve his time in the league, so good luck with that. #10, no one can shut down J Jones forever, surely not Revis coming off a torn ACL, and even if you get the better of him halve the time, without a pass rush as you mentioned Ryan,or Drew will find someone open. Lets look at Revis's shut down ability. Watch the tape, Revis gets away with a lot of holding. His reputation, and playing for the high profile Jets let him get away with more then most other corners. Will the refs continue to turn a blind eye when he's playing for small market Tampa Bay? #25 if Revis goes down, where's our depth now that we traded halve our draft,and 10 percent of our salary cap? #26 get him as a free agent next year.
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    about 10 of these 24 significant....think a bib is needed for all this "Revis drool" Still hope Dominik doesn't give up our 1st rd !
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