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April 29, 2013 @ 11:27 am
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Bucs 2013 Draft Recap: Analysis, Info And Grades

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The Bucs added six new players over the course of the three-day NFL Draft and unlike in season's past the six new Bucs will not be pressured into having to become instant impact starters. Below is a recap and analysis of each player, along with a comment by management and grade from PewterReport.com.
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers added six new players in the 2013 NFL Draft and while some picks left some fans scratching their heads, the organization feels that have filled some needs with the latest crop of April acquisitions.

General manager Mark Dominik spoke on the Monday prior to the draft and noted that the Buccaneers feel like their starting talent is good enough to win – now.

“I feel that way,” Dominik said. “I think that’s what I talked about when I said that there isn’t a glaring hole on the roster right now. Certainly you can improve the talent on the team, that’s the whole point of the draft. But I think we’re in that position now where we do have enough starters across the board that we can continue to add depth to the team. We want them to be productive players and get out on the football field and start to earn their stripes.”

Below is a recap of the players that the Buccaneers added along with comments from management on each one. Mark Cook also hands out an early grades on each pick, of course with the understanding that it is impossible to evaluate how the selection will pan out, something that can take a number of years to truly determine.

Scott Reynolds will soon have an analysis ranking the picks from top to bottom based on how PewterReport.com feels they fit in and will contribute.

Round 1. CB Darrelle Revis (Trade with Jets)
While Revis wasn’t a draft pick, you have to include him as part of the draft since the Buccaneers gave up the No. 13 pick to acquire the services of Revis from the New York Jets, who selected Missouri defensive tackle Sheldon Richardson.

Revis is coming off an ACL injury that occurred in Week 3 of the 2012 season but by all accounts the former Pitt Panther is well ahead of schedule and the Buccaneers see no reason why Revis will not be 100 percent when the season kicks off, ironically in New York against the Jets.

Prior to the injury Revis was the best cornerback in all of football and if healthy should pay huge dividends for Tampa Bay, as they play in one of, if not the premiere passing divisions in the entire NFL. With Cam Newton, Drew Brees and Matt Ryan on the schedule twice a year, and the Buccaneers having a historically bad secondary in 2012, the move to bring Revis to Tampa Bay was a no-brainer.

“It certainly has a big effect. Any time you can have a player that you can matchup on a team’s best receiver, you can do some different things schematically. So we’ve already begun our preparation and when best to utilize him and a lot of that will come in conversations with Darrelle. What he’s comfortable doing, what he doest best. This isn’t a rookie out of college. This is s guy who’s played and been very successful in this league. So we’re going to play to his strengths within our scheme.” – Schiano
GRADE = A+
 
Round 2. CB Johnthan Banks
The Buccaneers upgraded their secondary with Dashon Goldson and Revis prior to the draft but adding Banks only solidifies the worst unit from a year ago into – on paper at least – a strength of the team now.

Prior to the NFL Combine in February Banks was thought to be possibly the second corner to come off the board after Alabama’s Dee Milliner. But a slower than expected 40-time plummeted Bank’s stock, so far in fact he wasn’t even the first cornerback from his team to be drafted, as teammate Darius Slay took that honor. But the Buccaneers feel like they stole Banks and have big plans for the Mississippi State star.

During his career at Mississippi State Banks recorded 221 tackles (139 solo), four sacks, 11.5 tackles for loss and four fumbles. In addition to his 16 interceptions, Banks had 26 pass deflections in his career.

“He’s really, really diverse in what he does in their scheme. And we ask our corners to do a lot, everything from press to bail, to bait and being off and rotating and he’s done all that and he’s shown he can do that. I really like the way he plays the game. As Mark said, he’s the captain and he was the guy who made their defense go. And you love that, especially in a corner. That doesn’t happen very often.” – Schiano
GRADE = A

Round 3. QB Mike Glennon
The Glennon selection probably created the most debate among the media and fans of any of Tampa Bay’s six draft picks. Having what seemed more glaring needs, to take a QB, that deep down management must hope never sees the field in Tampa Bay, was a bit puzzling.

Glennon certainly has some appealing attributes. Tall, an above average arm, and one of the smartest players in the draft, there is a lot to like about Glennon. However, as noted above, some are questioning how crucial of a need quarterback was at that point in the draft.

Glennon’s accuracy fell during his senior season from 62.5 percent to 58.5 percent, while he threw for 4,031 yards in 2012 after passing for 3,054 as a junior. Glennon threw 31 touchdowns in each of the last two seasons, but saw his interceptions climb from 12 in 2011 to 17 last year.

"If you sit back and look, this is a quarterback-driven league. Anytime you have a chance to add a guy into your organization you feel like you can develop, but also has a talent that fits your system and fits what you believe in terms of the character. . . as a player, that’s the reason we took him in the position that we did." – Dominik
GRADE = C

Round 4. DT Akeem Spence
The Buccaneers certainly saw something in Spence that many draft experts and media members didn’t. From the limited game film and highlight tapes, there was little to get excited about. Spence has the size and strength to plug up the middle but at times in college was easily moved. Spence appears to be a hustle player and has a great attitude and may really blossom under good NFL coaching.

Spence, who was a junior entry, was named to the Freshman All-American team after compiling 45 tackles, four tackles for loss and a sack in 2010. The next year, Spence became a full-time starter and started all 13 games at defensive tackle. He posted 69 tackles, 5.5 tackles for loss and 1.5 sacks. As a junior, Spence started all 12 games and recorded 72 tackles, seven tackles for loss and one sack en route to being named an All-Big Ten honorable mention.



The Bucs like Spence’s ability to play both the three-technique tackle and nose tackle positions at Illinois. He has the ability to back up Pro Bowl defensive tackle Gerald McCoy and line up next to him.

“We felt like he is a very powerful, very strong, tilt nose for the Buccaneers. He produced a high level. I thought he was performing at his best at the end of the season but played consistent throughout. Really a force inside and that is such an important aspect to make sure we didn’t miss or lose him before we were going to make our original pick in the fourth round.” – Dominik
GRADE = C-

Round 4. DT William Gholston
Gholston had an up and down career in East Lansing. With all the attributes to be a first-round talent, the former Spartan fairly or not, earned a reputation as a player who’s motor wasn't revving at 100 percent at all times.

In 2010 as a true freshman, Gholston notched 13 tackles and half a sack before tearing his left labrum against Minnesota. As a sophomore, Gholston started 12 games and earned second-team All-Big Ten honors with 70 tackles, 16 tackles for loss and five sacks.

In 2012, Gholston was a second-team All-Big Ten selection by the media, but just honorable mention by the coaches. He played in 36 games and notched just 30 tackles for loss and 10 sacks.

The Bucs most likely feel they can coach the big man up and hopes he matures into a great edge rusher who can spell Da’Quan Bowers and Adrian Clayborn, and in the event of a significant injury, step right in as a starter.

“Will Gholston was a big, long, powerful defensive lineman from Michigan State. Again, length and power and strength. We visited him as one of our 30 visits so we could really get to know him better and learn more about him. I felt that pick in terms of quality and quantity in terms of where you’re taking him, for a player of that level is very exciting for our entire staff. The scouting staff as well as the coaching staff is very excited about continuing to develop him because of what her brings and the traits he has.” – Dominik
GRADE = B-

Round 5. DE Steven Means
Means earned the “Who is Steven Means” gasp by the media at One Buc Place when his name was called late Saturday afternoon. Outside of upstate New York most were also asking the same question. And while Means was far from a household name, the Buccaneers feel they have scored a diamond in the rough that will give them additional depth at the very least, and a potential double-digit sacker in the future.

Means recorded 186 tackles, 30.5 tackles for loss, 19.5 sacks, nine pass breakups, five blocked kicks, three forced fumbles and two interceptions, one of which was returned 42 for a touchdown against Bowling Green in 2011.

“He’s a guy who may have been a little bit off your radar but he wasn’t off of ours. He was a guy who we put a lot of time into as we do with all the draft choices. We use all the resources we can, whether that’s through the coaching community the scouting community, we did a private workout with him. So we spent a lot of time with him and we’re really excited about him being a developing pass rusher. We think he’s got tremendous traits at that ability and that’s why we’re excited to bring him in. Anytime you can draft a pass rusher you don’t want to pass him up. We thought he was one of those guys for us and so we’re really excited about him.” – Dominik
GRADE = C+

Round 6. RB Mike James
James is an interesting prospect and while he doesn’t excel in any one particular area, he does everything really well. James has already been compared by some to former Bucs running back/fullback Earnest Graham, including Dominik.

James split time in the backfield as a senior with freshmen Duke Johnson and is an unselfish player willing to lineup at a number of positions.

As a senior James (5-11, 222 pounds), started all 12 games at running back while also seeing time on special teams and fullback. In 2012 James ran for a career-best 621 yards and six touchdowns, while adding 344 yards and three TDs as a receiver.

James is a local product who played is high school in Polk County and grew up a Bucs fan, another trait he shares with Graham. Tampa Bay also liked his character and leadership, something that under Schiano has been a focal point with several draft choices over the last two seasons.

“(James) is a big back out of Miami. Again, another powerful player a big back. He ran in the 4.5s. He can do everything. I think what makes Mike so special is that he can play on first, second, third and fourth down. He’s very dependable, very trustworthy and out of all the respect in the world for him an Earnest Graham type of player. We loved Earnest Graham and what he did for this organization. Mike is bigger and taller than Earnest but he’s selfless like Earnest and really can do a lot of different things.” –Dominik
GRADE = C+

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    This year, the pass rush will be fine! The additions of Revis, Goldson, and Banks, along with Barron with a year of experience and Wright playing for his contract life will mean opposing receivers not open; QB throws ball away, gets intercepted, or gets sacked. I agree Bowers and Clayborn have ?????? b/c of injury and if healthy will be much better than we had last year. If not healthy, even our backups will be as good as what we had last year except with a dramatically improved secondary.... It is great Schiano goes after guys who were captains on their team. It shows they are leaders, self-motivated, focused (head-in-the-game kind of players), command respect from their peers, football smart, less likely to have problems off the field. I think Banks completes the secondary and will be highly effective, especially in the red zone. Glennon provides insurance this year and leverage next year (if Freeman decides to ask too much). With the run on QBs in the 4th rd, who knows if some other team had their eye on him also. If Glennon was the QB we really wanted, I'm glad we got him. What I hear is he has all the attributes in a quality QB, especially neck up.... I firmly believe Schiano and staff will get the most out of the defensive players they drafted rounds 4-5. I agree with Schiano that Defense is mostly effort and it showed last year with #1 run defense and #1 in tackles for loss. The DEF will be better and will get many more coverage sacks and /or INTs. As long as the OFF continues to mature in the system, I see no reason the BUCS cannot win 10 games. Just my opinion, but DB is a SKILL position. Defensive Lineman and Linebackers are EFFORT positions. A D Lineman or Linebacker's HEART can make up for lack of skill more than a DB's effort make up for his lack of skill. With REVIS, Banks, Goldson, Barron and Wright, the BUCS are much more SKILLED in the secondary. The Front seven will be alright. Schiano will make sure of that.
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    Well Buc fans Tampa got an A+ in CB Revis got on board. I think some of these players may not make it. But a few will.Can't wait until the first game of the season against NY Jets-GO BUCS
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    Thank you PR for telling it like it is and not sugar coating it for those who just want to see the draft with rose colored glasses. Now if your grades are the same as Lindy's gives the Bucs when their NFL Magazine comes out, and the grades for all our foes in our Division are much better than ours, then perhaps some of your readers will begin to see what Horse and I have been saying along with others. This draft could have been a lot better! Yes, in time our new DT may end up as good at the one we let go, and I think he does have the potential to push the offense back more than his predecessor did, and our new DE was described by one draft magazine as "looks like a first rounder but plays like a fifth rounder". His stamina has also been questioned and nobody says he has a high motor, but, granted he made some splash plays in college. Hopefully all he will be called on to do this year will be to spell Bowers for a breather. If that happens stamina will not be a problem, and if he makes splash plays at the NFL level while he is in the game, that would be a real plus. He has the strength and the burst to be a lot better player than he showed at Michigan State. He should be able to bull rush some tackles and be a factor in stopping the run game on his side of the field. Now I do like our SLB/DE who has proven he can get sacks. If he can master the rest of the SLB he may end up the starter there. So it not all gloom and doom.
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    While the D Line may not be great, they were close many times last year. The upgrade in the secondary throughout should by them an extra second or so which is plenty of time to get that sack or enough pressure to disrupt the play.
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    aroth1, I think you have it reversed. I watched the DL many times when it was something and long and the pass was completed, even if we were rushing 4 or 5 guys. That's a pass rush problem not a DB problem, because the WR knows where he is going and the DB doesn't. Believe it or not, the edge in the first 5 yards is the DB, if he is covering the WR on the line. The longer the play goes on, the more the pass completion rate goes up in a press defense, which we use s lot with our CB's. That press defense is counting on the DL to put major pressure on the QB quickly. We can't say that we almost got to the QB when it was thrown more than 20 yards; it just means that the QB had plenty of time.
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    This year, the pass rush will be fine! The additions of Revis, Goldson, and Banks, along with Barron with a year of experience and Wright playing for his contract life will mean opposing receivers not open; QB throws ball away, gets intercepted, or gets sacked. I agree Bowers and Clayborn have ?????? b/c of injury and if healthy will be much better than we had last year. If not healthy, even our backups will be as good as what we had last year (with a dramatically improved secondary).
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    @charlesescott1.... I think getting Revis will make the Buc's a better team . I was more for wait till after the draft and we could have had our 1st and Revis. IMO the Jets needed to get rid of Revis before Oct. so we could have had our cake and eat it too. It it was is, so I guess we have to be happy with it and see how it turns out. Anything less the a playoff spot thiis year then getting Revis was a mistake this year.
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    KINDERRT: I appreciate your mindset wait til after the draft to get Revis. I was hoping the same thing. But if the BUCS did not give the JETS at least a first round pick this year, the JETS might have held on to REVIS for spite and/or try to deal him to someone else midyear. At least now the situation is resolved before training camp, before the draft. If we did not have Revis, we would have had to draft at least two CBs. Thus, it would have impacted the way we draft. The BUCS also have pressure to win THIS YEAR. So pissing off the JETS trying to play hardball might have backfired. Having Revis on board before the draft, learning the system, the coaches, his teammates was the best scenario to give us the best chance for success THIS YEAR.....And who is to say next year's 1st rd pick in a stronger draft class won't be more valuable (even if it is 12 or so picks later).
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    @louden... About the playoffs was more about wishful thinking than beleif. Just trying to stay positive.
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    As I read through the responses to the article I must say I have yet to read any that have attacked anyone personally about their opinions. I have occasionally responded with some snide remarks but that has to do with people that are consistently negative. First many complain about Josh Freeman and say that his inconsistencies are what is holding the Bucs back. Then you bash the Bucs for drafting Glennon as a capable backup potential predecessor if things dont work out. Then some complained when we even mentioned acquiring Revis like the league's worst pass defense couldnt use an upgrade. Most bashed Dom over compensation long before a deal was ever reached. There were arguments about paying too much money when it actuality he has a non guaranteed contract that can be voided at any point if he doesnt live up to it which is great for a player of his caliber. Now the sights have been set on the draft and players that havent even put on jerseys. Its one thing to say the picks are questionable but to say its an awful draft makes no sense considering we didn't conduct any interviews or workouts. The pick (Means) that seems to boil the blood of some, most of us have never heard of the kid so how can you judge a player you have done no research on. So you are correct this is a soundoff and if you entitled to bash every move the Bucs make in the offseason the fans that are sick of hearing it are entitled to respond accordingly. I personally don't dislike anyone based off of this message board but this is hardly the time for some of you to play victim when we all have pointed opinions about certain things, thats what makes for a great fanbase.
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    Thnak you, stlbucfan. Well said. I'm not sure i've read any personal attacks and that is not what posting messages should be about. Nevertheless, many who are upset with this draft will completely change their tune when they discover how good these players turn out to be
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    @Roland:great post, fully agree from top to bottom. i´m still thinking the cowboys just leapfrogged us, stealing Mo Claiborn, but still good pick up with Barron. @Kinderrt: Playoffs? (Jim Morra Voice). The d-line is one injury away from being average (if at all). The LB core also. Playoff teams usually got some kind of rush. Against teams, with a good defense, we lack (IMO) a good SLot WR outlet and/or TE (Stocker is okay, but we needed a recieving threat, someone who can run a little faster, not just having above average hands), because our QB isn´t someone who throws his Receivers open. I cry about not getting Ertz and loosing another season (shiano wants to get rid of Free, like he wanted blount out)
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    Good point about respecting others' opinions Horse. I must admit it takes some will power when reading some of the ones that are so baseless and juvenile. I think some people are tending to disregard Revis as our 1st Round choice so they start their Draft evaluation in Round 2 with the selection of Banks and go from there. Our list of draftees is missing Sheldon Richardson who the Jets chose with our 13th pick and who Pewter Report predicted some months ago. The same thing happened a few years ago when we traded away our 1st Round pick. All of the focus fell to the second rounder who theoretically didn't measure up to the higher rated members of his draft class. I'll never forget the 'C' grade the 1995 Draft garnered. You remember, the one with Sapp and Brooks. One of the worst drafts for me was 2004 (the Michael Clayton draft) and it got a C+. Best player then turned out to be safety Will Allen who excelled and had a nice career after going to the Steelers in free agency. ESPN gave us a 'B'. Fun huh?
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    :-) Go Bucs.
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    I would like to finally chime in on this draft class and simply say this, "BLAAHHHH". Couldn't be more bland imo. And I think many of us draftnik-type-fans who were quick to recognize what a hit last years class was are simply and completely unimpressed with this class. Besides Revis (and thats a big complicated besides) this Bucs/Dominik draft lacks pizzazz. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2) Banks: He's a zone corner and we just got the best man to man cover guy since Deion. It's not that many of us feel he's bad, it's that he isn't the best fit. At all. 3) Glennon: I read somewhere, "Big, strong armed QB's never go out of style." Well the problem is Glennon's scouting report and Josh current scouting report are a carbon copy with the same strengths and weaknesses... Injury insurance for sure but if Sciano or Dom thinks if Josh fails they will still have a job because of this guy, they're smokin' something lol. 4) Spence: Great he can bench press a lot... But seriously, Dominik got us another bust at NT. Spence has 25% body fat and he's undersized. How many starting NT in the NFL match those 2 important criteria; I'll tell you how many starting NFL NTs match that while doing Zero Research... NONE. After that, all those late round guys were worth a flyer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ But this draft was deep at NT, DE and OT... Both areas we could use an upgrade and we got mostly squat. A far cry from the aggressive need filling Talent we grabbed last year. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------In summary I'll quote a great draftnik speaking on this Bucs class who's opinion I trust, "BLAAHHHH".
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    Steven Means had 186 tackles and and 19.5 sacks against Bowling Green? Thats incredible!
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    I think a lot of poeple are down on this draft because we did not have a 1ST RD pick, myself included. There were a lot of pro's and con's on getting Revis and I was against picking up Revis for many reasons. Not having a 1st we missed out on some top players mainly DT. We could have had the top DT in the class. With that being said you look at who we picked and when and you have to have trust in the GM and scout Dept. After TEN years and only being to the playoffs once it is very hard to have faith that they did the right thing. Many of the people that were in on this draft are the same ones that have been in on the drafts the last ten years like Dominik, Hickey and scouts. So I hope this is the draft that puts us in the playoffs this year.
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    KINDERT: "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush." Revis is a proven elite player. Anyone we draft in the 1st rd is unproven; many don't pan out. The Revis trade was genius and elevates our defense so much more than any DT in round 1 (13). Just my opinion, but DB is a skill position. Defensive Lineman and Linebackers are EFFORT positions. A D Lineman or Linebacker's HEART can make up for lack of skill more than a DB's lack of skill. With REVIS, Banks, Goldson, Barron and Wright, the BUCS are much more skilled in the secondary. The Front seven will be alright. Schiano will make sure of that.
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    I'm frustrated too! We have gad way too long of a playoff drought over the last decade. I think Schiano has brought a different culture to One BUC Place and is driving the train on player selection and Free Agency. I think Schiano more than any coach since Dungy knows the kind of player he wants and is very selective. The BUCS are not the same organization they were 16 months ago.
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    It is great Schiano goes after guys who were captains on their team. It shows they are leaders, self-motivated, focused (head-in-the-game kind of players), football smart, less likely to have problems off the field. I think Banks completes the secondary and will be highly effective, especially in the red zone. Glennon provides insurance this year and leverage next year (if Freeman decides to ask too much). With the run on QBs in the 4th rd, who knows if some other team had their eye on him also. If Glennon was the QB we really wanted, I'm glad we got him. What I hear is he has all the attributes in a quality QB, especially neck up. I firmly believe Schiano and staff will get the most out of the defensive players they drafted rounds 4-5. I agree with Schiano that Defense is mostly effort and it showed last year with #1 run defense and #1 in tackles for loss. The DEF will be better and will get many more coverage sacks and /or INTs. As long as the OFF continues to mature in the system, I see no reason the BUCS cannot win 10 games.
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    chandlerglover, good points and observations. It makes sense to me; good opinion.
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    MarcArrouet - Not sure anyone was really bashing the L. David pick. He was a fast good tackling linebacker that was called the best coverage linebacker in the draft by many analysts. Horse - Your river boat gambler made me think again about the Seahawks draft and I also remember alot of "wow, they really picked that guy?" reactions to their draft classes, going all the way back to them selecting those two safety's. Maybe then we should be optimistic that we fans among others had that same reaction, maybe they do know something we don't about these players. I was encouraged that DE Gholson has similar height/weight/strength as M Hunt. Maybe similar prospects?
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    No idea why fans are folding in after this draft before they can even been introduced to our coaches and players. I like the banks pick. Besides that I really am not sure about any of these prospects. The theme is definitely to go for big/strong body type, this does smell of a 'stokes' influence. However, seeing how the trades went down in the draft I would sooner have packaged our picks and taken M. Hunt, then banks, then T. Mathieu. Bigger impact on our team then the ones we got. But looking at the past drafts, this evaluating unit just places such a high premium on players being team team captains/good character players. I just cant help but think we may have just passed up on the next JJ Watt and Rhonde Barber. This personal opinion I have makes it difficult to get excited about... mike glennon... at the top of the third round!! Is tampa really seeing something the many QB-starved teams didn't?? After this draft my fingers are crossed that the DT is an improvement over Roy Miller. That and Banks + Revis this draft is a A- for me. A "diamond in the rough" would sure be nice though.
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    CanadianBucFan, The Head Coach for Settle has always been a River Boat Gambler; Stokes appears to be the same. Lets hope he has a Royal Straight Flush in his hand.
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    Man I hope I'm wrong but this drat just feels like a Bruce Allen / Jon Gruden special. I was ecstatic after last yrs draft! This time just seems like such a let down after the brilliant free agency this offseason. For a draft so deep in tackles we didn't get a RT and I really hope spence is an upgrade over miller (medically I guess he is already). I was pissed when bennet was let go so gholston I hope you blow us away! I really thought means would have been our new Sam but guess not. Taking glennon with all that dline talent there just irks me. Sorry to be negative guys, I'm usually not, I just love this team and it sucks feeling like this after a promising offseason and last years killer draft
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    @buc1932: Bruce Allen / Gruden special :) yes it realy is (although Banks is not a bad player, they should have attacked the draft differently, that´s for sure). @CanadianBucFan: don´t expect the DT´s to be real replacements for Miller (maybe the FA are). The picks need at least 1-2 years.
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    Overall its just a bad draft. I think Schiano fell in love with some of these guys and stats show that if they werent good in college, they will only be worse in the NFL...
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    It would be cool to see a history of 'day after draft' grades from Pewter Report for the last 5 years to see how well they played out . . . I was wondering what people had to say about Lavonte David last year, or Myron Lewis a few years back
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    Good job PR for nailing the Glennon pick in the exact round!!!
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    I actually am excited about the draft picks, (especially DE Steven Means), in 4 months we went from having Ronde Barber as our best secondary defender to him being 3rd or 4th string. My take on our draft. Johnthan Banks= A more focused Aquib Talib without the off field issues. Some experts compare him to B. Flowers. Mike Glennon= Joe Flacco, no not the 2013 Superbowl Champion version but the NFL bound collegiate version. Their stats and measurables are very similar, Glennon threw 12 more int's but almost as many more TD's. Akeem Spence= Is Roy Miller with more upside. So whomever is crying that we let Miller go we went and got a cheaper version with a higher ceiling. William Gholston= Total WIF!!! I think this guys is a dud. Think Styles White 2.0. Steven Means= Bye, Bye Dakota Watson this guy will be a special teams demon AND be the pass rush specialist they've been trying to get Watson to become. Mike James= Allen Bradford 2.0. I think he only makes the team if he can beat C. Grimm on Special teams. Practice squad guy. Again I'm not an expert just my own projections.
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    chandlerglover, good points and observations. It's hard to disagree with a lot i as it makes sense to me..
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    The reason there is a SOUNDOFF is to throw opinions out there. Of course we are no experts. It's a debate! I throw out my opinion and you throw out your opinion. Nobody is dumb, stupid, doesn't see the sun and lives in darkness. This is suppose to be a soundoff. I am still a Buc Fan, I will still go to practices, spend money for football tickets, and pay those high prices for food and drink at the games. Allow me or anyone to throw out my opinions and not be slamed personally.
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    Couldn't have said it better Horse....
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    my only concern is that he throws it to DBs too often...
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    This whole draft has Stokes written all over it. I think the whole team, managment included, is delegating rank and position on duties that last season were micro-managed and scrutinized heavily by Schiano and Dominick. Just as McCoy says the players are taking on things that last year were structured. Stokes came in as the guy who takes chances on players other teams write off, see Glennons predecessor and the Seahawks 3rd round, starting quarterback Russel Wilson. Also see Seahawks stud diamond-in-the-rough CB Richard Sherman. Stokes is all for the boom/bust guys which hopefully for us Bucs fans turns out positive but without a doubt some of these guys outside of the second round wont contribute one bit in the NFL which isn't all that uncommon. I, like most of us am left feeling unsatisfied with these guys but same goes for them as any name that we would have slated for these picks. There's only one way to find out if they can make it in the League, these men need to prove it.
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    Truth is you can't grade a draft the next day. The whole thing is silly. All of us can only guess, it'll take this whole year to see who pans out, and sometimes a lot longer. Glennon is a perfect example. Let's say Josh goes down mid season, and Mike comes in plays great we go to the playoffs. That C becomes a big A. He comes in plays horrible, don't make the playoffs, that C goes to D,F. I admit I was taken by surprise by some of the picks, but I'll defer judgement until they at least play a game.
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    When we first drafted Glennon my initial reaction wasn't good. But once I DID the research on the kid he is actually very impressive. He played on a team where he didn't have a lot of talent around him. His receivers CONSTANTLY dropped passes. He led his team to MANY comeback victory's and NEVER QUIT! He has a lot of potential and I think if hes able to sit a year and learn he will be a good QB. Plus, all those fans that hated this pick are the same people that would be CRYING if freeman got injured and we didn't have a good backup. Overall I applaud Mark Dominick for the Mike Glennon pick.
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    I agree WS. Did not know too much about Glennon, but after checking him out I kinda like the pick. But I'll tell you this, Free is still the man. Also never even heard of Means, but I think this dude is going to light it up. Just a hunch.
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    It's funny how none of these kids have even touch the field yet, but they still suck. Some are grading this picks off of what you think. I'm pretty sure you weren't at the private workouts or interviews, and I am sure Brian Cox and Butch Davis had some influence on the picks also. If they can make Roy Miller a guy some were predicting wouldn't even make the team look like a decent DT, then I have confidence that they know what they are doing. It's funny how some people become internet GM and scout teams when they have no idea what the team is doing.
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    while nobody asked for it, here's my take anyway...1) Dom is proving pretty good at some things (I like his move to get Revis on no-guarantees)...but one thing is abundantly clear after more than a decade of his voice in the draft room: after round 3 you can turn off the TV on his picks...we have exactly 1 pick in over 50 made in the mid and late rounds under his guidance as GM or Head of Scouting that has amounted to anything (Mike Will for those counting). There is no gem in the rough here....but it doesn't matter.....what we did was to improve our secondary from the worst to one of the best in one offseason...miraculous really. I agree with those who think our DL is looking very thin...2 unproven DEs coming off serious injuries and our star DT who has missed more than he's played....that makes me nervous. Nevertheless, we'll have a great offense and great secondary to combine with whatever our DL turns out to be..and Lavonte the man roaming around too...I think we're better than last year, I think CAR is too (but not hard to be), I think ATL and NO are worse....that should bode well for us...GO BUCS!
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    The Bucs draft Buccaneer men.Maybe not the most talented player on the board at the time or the player all the pundits say is better.There is a million things to consider besides talent like past history,attitude,work ethic,skill,scheme,prior injuries,team player or a "me " guy,future potential,is the player football smart and many more.Any fans trying to say we had a bad draft or dont like certain players we drafted right now instead of waiting 3 years to find out the truth is just not worth listening to or reading because they really dont know. GO BUCS!!!
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    Reading these posts is, if nothing else, entertaining. The National Football Post had some good things to say about Akeem Spence. http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/college_player_scouting_report.html&player=42218 For goodness sake, Schiano/Dom had a spectacular draft last year. Why not wait and see how these guys look on the field before jumping to conclusions and jumping off the ledge. For one, I am glad to see competition at QB. It should send a message to Freeman. If you like a certain QB, I like the idea of getting him before the run on QBs and risk losing out. Right on Bucko40! I couldn't agree more. Means is hungry and something to prove. We get a solid, versatile RB to backup Martin. And we get the rights to Demps who I would love to see on the field (in whatever creative way we might use him). He was pretty good at UF wasn't he? Go BUCS!
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    Based on the value on these picks Mark is being very gracious and kind to the Buccaneers, I would give Banks an A and everything else a D and an F.
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    I don't have a problem with the Glennon pick. Having a developmental QB with lots of upside is a smart move. If Spence is such a high motor guy and he's as strong as they say, why didn't he play better ? Gholston is either going to be boom or bust. Sounds like lots of talent with mediocre effort. Hoping that these two guys are going to be better in the NFL than they were in college is wishful thinking. We should be looking for starters on the D line. I think we got a couple of projects.
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    Banks over Mangus Hunt is one we will regret. Banks maybe a solid #2 cb in a few years. We are sooo thin at DE.
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    Good God. Some fans are never ever happy. I guess that's why fans aren't NFL Front office professionals. The only player I had no knowledge of was Steven Means. I'm guessing that Eric Stokes name is all over that selection. Everyone pretty much knew the Bucs were going to draft a QB. I figured it was going to be in the 4th or 5th round. Give the Bucs some credit. They identified the guy they wanted and took Glennon before anyone else could. it would have been a crap shoot if Glennon would still be there when all the QB's started coming off the board in the 4th. There has to be a failsafe in place in case Freeman gets hurt or fails to rise to the challenge this year. My only question is at LB. The rest of the names aren't flashy but they fit what the Bucs do on Offense and Defense.
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    The defensive line is not fixed with these picks. We still have no pass rush. They better get Abraham and a veteran DT in the next wave of free agency, or that wonderful new backfield will be severely tested every game and they will have to change the name of the team from Bucs to Toast.
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    You can't grade the Bucs draft and exclude Revis he was essentially our 13th overall pick and filled our most glaring weakness on the roster. Banks will compete with Wright for the 2nd corner spot and that will only make them both better. That makes us incredibly solid in the secondary considering the "loser" of that battle will be our nickel back. At worse Spence and Miller will be a wash in terms of production since Miller only occupied blockers and seldon made it in the backfield to make TFL. The pass rush will be much better if you consider the amount of pressure we will be able to apply with solid corners on the backend. Using Means and Goldston to spell Clay and Bowers will be fine as our pass rush depends on those two stepping up more than any player we would have selected in rounds 3-7. The sky isnt always falling Bucs fans but as usual our youtube scouts know more than the scouts inside One Buc Place. I think some of you would complain if we brough Jesus in to coach the team and say "but he has no experience!" Go Bucs lol
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    Mark, I have to disagree about Banks rating. There was a reason that he dropped from being the 2nd best DB besides his speed? Mississippi State got beat and sometimes smeared by the upper the half SEC teams. Banks didn't look so hot against those receivers. I would have graded Banks a B. So Mark, on the radio today you talked a lot more positive about Spence and I see you have come to your senses. I don't believe we resolved our pass rush problems like we did with the DB's. I thought we had the worse pass rush in the NFL? I am not sure if Spence is even as good as Miller and Gholston & Means can't shine Bennetts shoes; so how did we get better? If you leave Revis out of it; I give this draft as one of the worse drafts we have had in many a year.
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    After reading through these picks again, I still feel that I woke up XMAS morning with a lot of broken toys under the tree.
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    Mark that was a thoughtful analysis. I think the choice of Glennon in the 3rd was a long overdo "bite the bullet" type pick. John Gruden rates his upside very high and Gruden knows QBs. He says Glennon has a howitzer for an arm and can make all the throws. The biggest thing to make Josh better is to have some honest competition in camp with him. Glennon is a little raw and won't be a challenge to Josh this year, but he should move ahead of Orlovsky. Glennon will be brought along slow and develop soundly. His arm alone will get Josh's attention. I expect Josh to have a big year this year anyway with the return of Nicks and Joseph. I guess any pick from round 3 on is a gamble. While not household names, the athleticism of Spence (37 x 225), Gholston and Means is freakish. If your going to gamble at least gamble on a big upside. Mike James was Miami's number one back going into the 2012 season, but freshman phenom Duke Johnson took that role over. James did a very good job as a complimentary back. That's a team player not a distraction. I think James could fit a role for the Bucs in 2013. If Demps decides to come aboard that could really provide some excitement in the return game. I see why slot receiver Ryan Swope (Texas A&M) fell so far in the draft, he had 4 concusions last year. The Bucs scouting dept looked at so much film on these players, I'm giving them the edge. This Dominik-Schiano-Davis team hasn't let us down yet and until they do, I'm sticking with them.
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    Over the years I have seen teams find gems in the later rounds (Brady for example), and I am fairly confident in how Dominick has been scouting these pics. I truly believe that these pics will have a productive career as Buccaneers! I do hope though that Clark comes back for another year, we need a second TE.
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    only pick i had a problem with was Akeem Spence & where they took him probably could've gotten him as an undrafted free agent... LOL
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    I trust in Dominic but i sure as heck hope he knows something about these people that the rest of us don't. It doesn't make allot of sense on paper after round 2. I'm thrilled with Revis and i think Banks is going to be very productive. The rest of these guys...who knows.
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    I don't see why people are complaining. If you told everyone that the Bucs would select two DB's, two DE's, a RB and a QB, I think there would be no issues. Sure, I thought they might grab a TE in there, but what do I know, as they have a roster full of them already? Not sure why Glennon is so controversial. If/when Freeman goes out due to injury or ineffectiveness, isn't it better to have the next QB of the future already in tow? If not, I can hear the cries to the contrary already. It was rather astute with long term thinking to grab a top QB rather than waiting for the scraps in rounds 4 -7.
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