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September 25, 2013 @ 8:20 am
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Bucs To Sit Freeman, Glennon To Start Against Cardinals

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The Buccaneers have moved on from quarterback Josh Freeman according to multiple reports on Wednesday, just two days after head coach Greg Schiano told the media that Freeman was his starter. Tampa Bay plans to start rookie Mike Glennon on Sunday against the Arizona Cardinals.
The Josh Freeman era in Tampa Bay is almost certainly over.

Per multiple published reports, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have made the switch at quarterback and will sit Freeman in favor of rookie Mike Glennon for Sunday’s home game against the Arizona Cardinals.

Since last April when the Buccaneers selected Glennon in the third round from North Carolina State, speculation has been that at some point Glennon would unseat the inconsistent Freeman during the 2013 season, but few expected it to come so soon in the season. However, few expected the Buccaneers to be 0-3 at this point.

The Buccaneers offense is ranked 31st in the NFL – just ahead the Jacksonville Jaguars – averaging only 282 yards per game so far in 2013.

Freeman was selected as the 17th-overall pick in the 2009 NFL Draft and had his best season in 2010, leading the Buccaneers to 10 wins while throwing for 3,451 yards and 25 touchdowns with just six interceptions. In 2011 Freeman saw his numbers dip and the former Kansas State star threw a career-high 22 interceptions and just 16 touchdowns. The Buccaneers suffered a 10-game losing streak to finish out the season and then head coach Raheem Morris was fired.

2012 saw Freeman set personal and franchise records with 4,065 yards passing to go along with 27 touchdowns. But the Buccaneers suffered another losing streak late in the season, knocking them from playoff contention after at one point being 6-4. During the late season collapse Freeman had back-to-back four interception games. In his last 10 starts Freeman and the Buccaneers are just 1-9.

So far in 2013 Freeman is 43 of 94 for 571 yards, two touchdowns, three interceptions while being sacked eight times. For his career Freeman has thrown for 13,534 yards with 80 touchdowns and 66 interceptions while completing 58.2 percent of his passes to go along with a 78.8 QB rating.

Earlier this month a report came out that Freeman may ask for a trade before the October deadline and with the latest development that very well could be in the works.


Last modified on Wednesday, 25 September 2013 11:07
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    Freeman’s body language looked to me like he lost the desire to play. I am not sure if he is lacking the desire to play football or to play for the Bucs. If it is the latter a change may be the answer. I wish him well but I think the right decision has been made. We should know by the end of the season if Mike has the intangibles to be our future; if not we need to get a QB high in the first round.
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    Freeman’s body language looked to me like he lost the desire to play. I am not sure if he is lacking the desire to play football or to play for the Bucs. If it is the latter a change may be the answer. I wish him well but I think the right decision has been made. We should know by the end of the season if Mike has the intangibles to be our future; if not we need to get a QB high in the first round.
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    Don't normally comment on these things, but quite frankly, I"m tired of the proverbial elephant in the room. I've lived in South Tampa for all 7 years that I'v lived in Tampa, it is COMMON KNOWLEDGE, that Josh Freeman is not only an alcoholic and cokehead, but is also gay. I'm actually gay and I know this to be a fact, Josh lives with his openly gay brother, Caleb Freeman and was close to coming out last year. Everyone in the locker room knows this and has known for awhile. It's not a big deal in most professions, but this is an NFL locker room.
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    Look, I hope I am wrong about this, but I really do feel like Josh was hamstrung by these coaches. He gave us 1 and a half really good years, then half a year last year, and then the wheels fell off. What do I think it is? I think it's the coach. I do wonder how Raheem would do with a Vincent Jackson, a Doug Martin, a Lavonte David, and certainly a Darrelle Revis. We bottomed out with Raheem, but what would he have done with players? As far as Glennon goes, I hope I am wrong, but I can't imagine this working out. We might beat Arizona, because the team comes together, and they aren't very good. But I can't imagine putting up 35 points against an Atlanta, against a New Orleans, or against any decent team. I had high hopes for this season, but now what do I hope for? 3 wins? Can we get there? I don't know.
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    I hope you are wrong too. I think you are wrong too. Freeman took out his revolver and pointed it squarely at his foot and pulled the trigger. This is on Freeman....I agree that management didn't give Morris a whole lot to work with butthe team clearly gave up on him. I think you are wrong about the prospects for this season...Our DEF is good enough, with Glennon, to win us 6-8 games.
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    Sweet relief. The final sack and turnover of Freeman's playoff-less Buccaneer career. Let the Glennon era begin!
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    Travis Jackson tore it up in Seattle this preseason... if we're feeling desperate.
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    Jon Gruden does a great job evaluating new QBs for ESPN and shows brilliance during the draft on TV. I am glad he gave his professional opinion of young Glennon to PR. As I have said elsewhere today prepare for a loss this Sunday. I have zero confidence in Schiano's ability now. He has made way too many serious mistakes and wasted opportunities for the Bucs by his bull headed his way or the highway hijenks. If he really had a clue what he was doing I could live with it. But he is clueless. He also has no credibility either saying one thing and two days later making a liar out of his earlier statement by doing just the opposite and on top of it all he plays favorites in his decision making over keeping productive proven talent--just look at 19 and Overstreet! Quick, Glazers bring out the hook and whisk him and Sherman both away! Sherman lost two games this season and more last season with his prevent defenses at the end of ball games, but he never learns from his repetitious mistakes. Schiano will ride Doogie into the ground and kill the goose that laid the golden egg! The benefits of multiple backs to keep fresh legs in a game don't ever penetrate his thick scull.
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    spot on
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    Buc fans,be careful what you wish for.......
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    I'm so glad the coach had the courage to make this move sooner rather than later....After so adamantly declaring Freeman his starter on MON, I just have to wonder what Freeman might have done or not done to provoke this decision.... I wish Freeman no ill but he doesn't seem totally committed to the game.
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    Where is everyone getting there sources from about Free going to Minnesotta?
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    BREAKING NEWS: Bucs trade Freeman to Minnesota for a late-round pick
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    Just heard Free was traded to the Vikings for a late round pick
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    SOURCE SOURCE SOURCE????
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    I think Freeman will do well some where else where there is a good coach! This coach is terrible! I hope the new quarterback is not going to be on the hot seat! He too will be playing with a terrible head coach! I wish him luck! Of course we will not see him on TV for awhile! The Bucs biggest problem is not the players but the Head coach! He is terrible!
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    hesson, I have heard the same from my S. Tampa bar owner/bartender buddies (sans the coke comment; cannot verify). Lord knows I take down my share of wine but damn what a waste of a good kid with talent. I wish him the best elsewhere.
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    Freeman may very well go on to success somewhere else but the Bucs can't worry about forecasting something like that. Here in Tampa he's still wildly inaccurate throwing short to intermediate passes, still taking far too many coverage sacks, still slow through his progressions, still locking onto his primary targets, still doing too many things that should be out of the way in year five. I wish him all the best in the future as he always carried himself with tremendous poise and showed great character, but I don't understand the point of prolonging this anymore. He is what he is in a Buccaneer uniform. See what you have in Glennon and make an informed evaluation of the position in the off-season.
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    I knew the Bucs would be fun to follow this year!
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    Ok guys, here's the scoop on the Freeman situation... And I promise this info is accurate (a close friend of mine is close friends with a guy on the team, not to be named out of respect, and she was informed by that buc player this morning).... The scoop is that Josh Freeman is an alcoholic party animal, and he recently started doing cocaine regularly. In light of this sad new info, it is totally understandable that he couldn't be relied upon to lead this organization. So sad. I really hope he turns his life around and gets clean... Time to move on and focus on the guys who are trying to do things the right way.
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    When I started reading this post, I thought ok, another "my friend's best friend's neighbor has a cousin who once shook hands with a player that knows Josh Freeman" kind of post, but if this were true, it does seem plausible. If you were an alcoholic-coke abuser, then he'd definitely would be coming in late to meetings, on the team photo thing-I can see if a player was up all night doing coke, blitzed out of his mind, knowing that he can't face ANYBODY in that state of mind.....no show. Let us not forget the most important thing is the results on the field, so all things considered, Boomer Isiasson might've been right about Josh this whole time, with reports about him being a party animal that is not taking the game seriously. I mean I never wanted to believe that, Josh seems like a well grounded "good boy"......and now in retrospect, I do remember him giving an interview on the Ron and Ian show, and he did display traits of being under the influence of something like cocaine. Anyway, I hope you are wrong about this info, I really do.........but I can't debunk any of this, perhaps the truth will come out at some point.
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    I too can't stand schiano! I was hesitant to fire rah and actually wanted him to get another job so that tells you how much I feel Rutgers is out of his depth. Please glazers keep Dom and hire a PRO coach who knows how to scheme and call plays and great nfl players. Rutgers is a complete joke and I honestly feel like this season is over. Anyone want my season tix?
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    I don't understand the piling on of Schiano and staff. FREEMAN did this, not the coach, the offensive coordinator, and not the GM. FREEMAN was his own worst enemy!! His lackadaisical carefree demeanor, his inability to lead this offense, his inaccuracy, and most of all TUROVERS!!! That's the long an short of all of this. Get use to it Buccaroos, Schiano isn't going anywhere. This move is more of a sink or swim with Glennon to see if he has what it takes because if you're playing for next year you need to know what you have.
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    I hope to GOD Freeman is traded to someone like the jags or oakland or even minnesota. Where he can probably be himself and i hope he shines and improves a team and everyone would be like it was Schiano who blew his torch on Freeman. This guy is an @S$H0(&!
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    Doug Williams, Steve Young, Vinny T., Trent Dilfer - all QB's the Bucs gave up on that went on to have great success after leaving the team. Now after setting franchise records for TD's and yards, we'll be adding Josh Freeman to this list. No question Josh has been inconsistent, but he's had many dropped passes (some for TDs) and stupid drive killing penalties that have made him look a lot worse than he is. Despite all the negative media attention, Josh has remained positive and hasn't point fingers at anyone. I hope we give him a second chance. Mike Glennon may be a good QB someday, but after watching the preseason games he looks like a baby giraffe on an ice pond. He will no doubt have some growing pains. I hope his teammates, coaches, fans, and media are patient with him.
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    I've posted many times the GM, coach, & QB need to go. This is the first step. I wish Freeman good luck wherever he ends up, I believe he is a really nice guy. Looking at it from his standpoint, this is exactly what he wanted. It was evident he didn't want to be here...maybe that's really why he missed the team photo. In the future, folks will look back at the team photo, and Freeman can deny he was ever on this terrible team! :-) Seriously, he now can start anew elsewhere...although, I'm not sure which team might be potential trade partner with Freeman to be a FA after the season...maybe Schiano's buddy Bilicheck can give us a late-round pick. :-)
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    One more thing...adding to my list of reasons to fire Schiano asap...on top of all of the game-day blunders (which I can list again for anyone who wants), and the abusive relationship with the QB....let me add that not 2 days ago this guy was telling us "Freeman is our starting QB because he gives us the best chance to win"....not 2 days ago....you sir are full of !@#$% and that's yet one more reason for you to not pass GO but exit the building immediately!
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    Freeman is a scapegoat. More of Schiano having to do it his way. Well his way has been terrible the last 10 games. The OC has to go as well. He has no idea what he is doing. No team the is trying to run the power run game deep pass attack is doing well right now. Even the Vikings are 0-3 and they have Adrian Peterson. We need to clean house at the end of the season. Schiano has been a DISASTER since he attacked the Giants QB in the victory formation.
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    Unless this somehow works out (doubtful at best) FIRE schiano immediately after this season. He's bungled the whole thing! Go back to stupid Rutgers moron
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    Agree with this move 100%. The team lost the first two games because of other factors than Freeman himself but he didn't do anything to give them a better chance at winning either of those games or last weeks game. He isn't a leader and it sure is tough to win games when your QB looks like he could care less, with missing photo shoots, can't even be elected captain of the offensive team and other supposedly missed meetings. He shows no sense of urgency while on the field and I believe (in my opinion) that he has lost players backing also. Watching Jackson's body language after some of Freemans bad throws even though he caught them tells me they aren't happy with his inaccurate throws. Martin would have had 2 touchdowns last week if Freeman could have put the ball where most qb's do. I believe they will trade him before the deadline and get whatever they can and see what Glennon can do the rest of the year. Then, they will have to decide to go with him if he shows promise, draft another supposedly franchise qb or look in free agency for another qb . Not saying Schiano doesn't have a lot of blame, but this is the first step that needed to be done.
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    Unfortunately Freeman is UNTRADEABLE. Who is going to give up a good draft pick for a guy who is going to be a free agent in March and needs to learn your playbook? Oh, and who is makeing 8 million dollars this year... most teams don't have the cap space because over half of them are within 3 million of the cap right now.
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    If you've been paying attention you could see this coming from across the room. Schiano now has the bright light of scrutiny focused directly on him. And that's the way it should be. If he thinks that Glennon gives the team the best chance to win, he has every right to make this change, but it is fraught with danger. He absolutely has to show right away that this change makes sense or he runs the risk of losing a veteran locker room. I'm already on record questioning Schiano's skills as an NFL-caliber coach, but you can be sure come Sunday, I will be pulling for Glennon and the Bucs just as hard as I ever did. Here is something to watch - Footballlocks, the Vegas latest line has the Bucs as 3 point favorites over Arizona, see if that remains and it will tell you how betting folks are affected by this change. Until Sunday, Go Bucs!
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    Take AZ and the points NO Way Bucs when this with Glennon he is horrible
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    Well this just got worse, I just went back in time to watch the 1985 Bucs
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    College is college and the pros are the pros! EJ Manuel wasn't a particularly good QB in college, but is doing ok in the pros. Give the kid a shot and some support. Freeman is gone, in fact he will probably be traded before season's end. Has to happen. He wants to leave and I believe that Coach wants to help him do so. Freeman is a good guy... average QB. 5 years is about enough of a chance. He is/was not the long term solution. Buc's squeak by the Cards with some defensive help, a couple of FGs actually made, with a final score of 23-17! A win is a win guys! A man can hope can't he...
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    Even Freeman or Glennon can produce against a very weak and injured Cardinal defense, so it tells me that Schiano knows he has to win at least 6-7 games with Glennon at the helm to keep his job. I don't see how that can happen with Glennon. It's way to early to bring in Glennon and all that will happen after the Cardinal game is a lot of Ugh's. Either way, this season is lost and now Schiano has to convince Dominik and the Glazers to give him one more year to right the ship. If I was the Glazers I woud give that year and I would lower my ticket prices for one year big time to help encourage the beginning of something, whatever that may be. I would buy a season ticket again if the prices were significantly reduced.
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    I like this move! The offense has been offensive. Freeman has lost his mojo and I believe some of his teammates? I know that none of them would say so, but this change must be made. other teams start rookie QBs and have had some success. Glennon needs to be fully evaluated so that we may better address our needs at QB. Maybe he is better, can't be much worse. Freeman does not want to be here!!! It shows. Actions speak louder than words. If OL can give Glennon some time, I believe that he might be an upgrade??? Anyway, just doing something is better than watching this horrible Offense! If there are no drops and better protection, perhaps this will speak volumes. This Buc fan likes the move. Next man up...
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    Ridiculous. Anyone looking at the 2013 schedule before the year figured we would be 1-2 leading up to this game vs ARZ. We lost the Jets game (Freeman comeback) due to a defensive blunder and the Saints game (another Freeman clinching drive for naught) on special teams. Freeman gives us the best chance to win now and to save the season. Starting Glennon this early is throwing in the towel for the year, and I don't want to go back to the days of waiting for a rook QB to develop. Get ready for defences to stack the box with 9 players, thus shutting Martin down, and the passing game going down yet another notch. The media got what it wanted - QB controversy to sell their stories - and the rest of us have to suffer through the resulting QB carousel. Very disappointing.
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    side note: time to call PR writers out! they dont seem to get it either. All offseason they raved about the revamped defense and praised the offense for last season.. The holes on this team were obvious! What do you have to say about that, huh? Does anyone think Glennon, who didnt throw his targets open in college much, will suddenly change in the NFL? He is better than Freeman in reading defenses (not hard), but he will need a lot of help from his peers, because if plays breaks down.. damn, he is mobile like a whale on a highway.. if not worse
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    I am at a loss for words. What is going on is not all Freeman's fault. Do I believe he is the long term answer? NO, but he still gives us the best chance to win this year. Freeman just needs to say F**K it, and play the way he used to. Dont worry about getting yelled at by the coaching. Yes he makes bonehead throws, but he did throw for over 4000 yards and 27 touchdowns last year. He is just so scared of the Coaches. I was a Schiano supporter when he came in, because he did bring discipline something we lacked with R. Morris, but he has taken it a little to far. We need to go trade for a QB that could help us win now(K. Cousins, M. Flynn, or dare a say it V. Young) but Glennon is Not the answer. Start D. Orlsovsky if you dont want bench freeman, at least he has played in several NFL games.
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    No need to win too much games this year - there simply is not enough talent on this team to go a long way in the playoffs. Its better to see Glennon and getting a good draft pick^^
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    Throwing in the towel for a high draft pick is not the answer. Say we get a top 3 pick and draft a QB, I am not sold on any QB coming out next year. The risk of choosing the wrong guy and setting this franchise back another 5 to 10 years, is not worth it. When you reach for a guy, there is a high chance it will not work out. This team has talent all over and with a decent QB, we could contend for a wildcard spot.
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    @pinkstop: most of the time, i tend to agree with your comments - not this time. This could turn out to be one hell of a move, because its all about getting that ship right again. For the future of this team, the most important thing is to check out if GM/HC have got what it takes and Draft position. Benching QB was first step in the right direction - no doubt (if Freeman succeeds in this league, its by the Rex Grossman way, when he was with the bears). With a rookie QB at the helm, there shouldn´t be too much blame on Shiano if we loose to Arizona (draft position is more important than a win anyway, because despite what some fans might think: the Bucs clearly dont have enough talent for the SuperBowl title anyway). If Shiano shows signs of good coaching and improved personal (players) decisions, then he might be worth keeping. But so far he failed misserable (Ogletree, Lindell). I said it so often and will keep doing it: like many said, the season was lost before it started, all offseason long.. "win now" instead of finishing the re-building. Only good thing: we just have to fine tune the next couple season (1-3 years have to be enough). A little patients Bucs fans.. I am just not sure if it was realy GM/HC combo to go win-now, or if the Glazers had a hand in that, because they wanted to sell ticket and maybe they thought it was a good idea to get fans into the stadium. Our GM wanted to go for Chip Kelly and got us that scout from the Hawks - that shows Dom the Don at least knows sth. about football. I like the most coaches on our staff also - but i am not confinced.. i could imagine, all these bad decisions of Shiano were by desing, to get rid of a bad QB (who was well liked by too many Bucs fans). Let´s wait and see. GoBucs; what do you fellow fans think?
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    Ok now lets get on with the firing of Shiano the inflexable coach that cant play to his teams strengths.Go BUCS
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    I apologize in advance for the doom and gloom, but imo this seals the deal. We will be drafting 1st-3rd next year, Glennon will be shell shocked with shattered confidence and we will have our pick of Bridgewater/Mariota/etc. Hopefully this also translates into Schiano being fired. And I'm one of the most optimistic sports/fans you'll ever meet... Hopefully they prove me wrong and Glennon and Schiano will someday be in Canton.
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    This is a clear sign that Schiano wants to go down his way which I cant be upset with. Unfortunately nothing that I saw from Glennon in preseason would indicate that he's ready to start in the NFL but I guess he will be thrown into the fire and see where he stands. Lets see a rookie QB with a big arm, limited mobility and accuracy issues starting too early in his career....I think we just ended a chapter that started like this. Im praying for the best but history has shown us this may be another career ruined bc hes forced to play too early. Good Luck Glennon and Go Bucs!
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    On a side note, I see we're going the same thing as last year. Dropping the player instead of the assistant coach that's causing all the trouble, McNulty. Last year it was Cooper with the DB's. Freeman has never had a completion percentage anywhere near this low until McNulty showed up. The WR coach Garrett sucks too.
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    i want to say something positve, so "finally Freeman isn´t the Bucs starting QB anymore, that´s great stuff and nice!" @pinkstop: thats what i´m talkin about. You are right, but was it maybe by design, to convince those who stood behind Free, that he isn´t what they think he is? Shiano and staff will now be able to open up the playbook (simple example: what about stop routes? we go deep a lot, so it could work. So, now they can have good playcalling and still loose, because Glennon isn´t ready. Loosing isn´t bad, as we need a high draft pick anyway, but by good play design and personal desicions, the coach can at least show he is capable of handling the NFL and saving his job)
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    Well, this is the beginning of a new era. Whether new translates to good or bad, we'll see. The only rational I could see to doing this a week early is that Schiano and Dominik don't want to be 0-4 and have everyone give up on the season. I guess they figure Glennon gives them a better shot to win against Arizona. That and they don't think Arizona is a very tough opponent. This should go without saying but if this doesn't work out with Glennon this year and if we don't make the playoffs, Schiano you're fired!
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    In my opinion Freeman benched himself. He has never been consistent, and his completion percentage is a joke. Let's see what the rookie can do.
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