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September 25, 2013 @ 1:05 pm
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Bucs Will Look To Trade Freeman In October

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With Josh Freeman out as the Bucs starting quarterback, and Mike Glennon in, Freeman's reign in Tampa Bay is all but over. Can the Bucs manage to get compensation by trading Freeman before the October deadline? What teams might be interested in bringing Freeman aboard?
The benching of starting quarterback Josh Freeman likely means his tenure in Tampa Bay will be quickly coming to an end. With rookie Mike Glennon, the team’s third-round pick this year, starting against Arizona on Sunday due to Freeman’s performance and the team’s 1-8 record dating back to 2012, look for general manager Mark Dominik to trade Freeman prior to the NFL trade deadline on October 29.

Dominik has to attempt to trade Freeman prior to Week 9 or risk getting nothing in return from the player he invested a first- and a fourth-round pick in back in 2009 during his first draft as Tampa Bay’s general manager. Freeman, who is in his fifth NFL season, is scheduled to be an unrestricted free agent after the 2013 season.

Sources have told PewterReport.com that the team will not be making attempts at trading Freeman this week. Instead, the Bucs will wait until injuries or ineffectiveness happen within other teams at the quarterback position. Dominik has four more weeks to deal Freeman prior to the trade deadline and a lot can happen between now and then.

The problem with trading Freeman is his salary and the remaining salary cap room of interested teams. He’s still owed close to $7 million of the $8.43 million base salary he’s due in 2013. If the Bucs wait three weeks to trade him that will bring down Freeman’s remaining salary by approximately $1.6 million. That might help a team with tight salary cap space be able to acquire Freeman at around $5 million for the rest of the season.

The Bucs would love to get at least second-round pick for Freeman, but the guess is here that Dominik would pull the trigger for a third-rounder – unless he has multiple teams interested in a quarterback that just came off a 4,000-yard, 27-touchdown season.

Here is a look at some possible trading partners Tampa Bay might have for the 25-year old Freeman:

JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS
Jacksonville is ready to move on from former first-round pick Blaine Gabbert, and Chad Henne isn’t much better. New head coach Gus Bradley left Tampa Bay shortly before Freeman arrived in 2009, but he and former Bucs head coach Raheem Morris, who drafted Freeman, are close and he could be given a strong referral from Morris.

The Jaguars are desperate for better play from the quarterback position and acquiring Freeman would create some positive buzz for the league’s worst and most apathetic franchise. The fact that Jacksonville will likely have a top 10 – or perhaps even a top 5 – pick again would make the Jaguars a very intriguing draft partner for Tampa Bay.

CLEVELAND BROWNS
Due to a multitude of trades, including dealing running back Trent Richardson for a first-round pick last week, the Browns have a plethora of draft picks in 2014, including a pair of picks in the first, second and third rounds. Brandon Weeden, a first-round pick in 2012 by the former regime, is not the answer at quarterback, and has been benched due to performance and an injured thumb. Brian Hoyer, who led the Browns to a win over Minnesota last week, will start again on Sunday.

While the Browns will use a high pick on a quarterback in 2014, they may need a serviceable quarterback in the interim to step in and bridge the gap early next year and even at the end of this season. Don’t be surprised if the Browns clean house next year and look to pair a veteran quarterback with a rookie. Freeman could be that guy and Cleveland has plenty of draft picks to spare in 2014.

OAKLAND RAIDERS
Freeman could get the chance to be reunited with former offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach Greg Olson, who knows Freeman’s strengths and weaknesses as well as anyone. Under Olson, who is Oakland’s offensive coordinator, Freeman had his best statistical season in 2010 in leading Tampa Bay to a 10-6 record with 22 touchdowns and just six interceptions.

Freeman has struggled with accuracy since Olson left, completing 54.8 percent of his passes in 2012 and just 45.7 percent of his throws this season. Freeman completed 61.4 percent of his passes in 2010 and had a career-high 62.8 percent completion percentage in 2011.

The Raiders have Terrelle Pryor, who will miss Sunday’s game with a concussion, as the starter, and traded for Matt Flynn in the offseason. Freeman could come in and compete for the starting job later in the 2013 season or in 2014.

KANSAS CITY CHIEFS
New Chiefs coach Andy Reid has a highly-paid starter in Alex Smith, but is known for acquiring quarterbacks, evidenced by drafting Nick Foles in Philadelphia even though he had Michael Vick as the starter, and also dealing former second-round pick Kevin Kolb to Arizona for a second-round pick and cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie.

The Chiefs only have unproven Chase Daniel and rookie Tyler Bray to back up Smith, and having a more experienced veteran like Freeman may bolster Kansas City’s roster as it looks to make a playoff run. Plus, Freeman has experience playing in a West Coast Offense in Tampa Bay under Olson.

Because Freeman is from Kansas City and went to school at Kansas State University, this would be his agent’s preferred destination for the quarterback. Freeman’s family still resides in Kansas City and staying closer to his roots may help his career blossom.

MINNESOTA VIKINGS
Vikings starter Christian Ponder has been as frustrating to Vikings as Freeman was to Bucs fans. Ponder however was able to do something that Freeman never did –lead his team to the playoffs. But with the Vikings having one of, if not the best running back in the league in Adrian Peterson and adding wide receiver Greg Jennings in the offseason, expectations were high in Minneapolis this season and an 0-3 start has led to a target placed on Ponder’s head by the media and fans in Minnesota.

Vikings general manager Rick Spielman was responsible for drafting Ponder and may be hesitant to wave the white flag admitting his error. However the Vikings window is shrinking and the Vikings could be tempted to bring Freeman aboard. Spielman and head coach Leslie Frazier’s rationalization to add Freeman could be to help push Ponder to greatness or push Ponder to the bench.

ARIZONA CARDINALS
Dominik may have a chance to talk to Arizona general manager Steve Keim face-to-face at Sunday’s game about dealing Freeman to the Cardinals. Freeman, who would be an ideal fit for Bruce Arians’ offense, may flourish on the bench, learning from a seasoned veteran like Carson Palmer for a year or two and then emerge as his successor in Arizona.

Palmer, 33, was signed as a stopgap in Arizona, and like Kurt Warner, the Cardinals hope that they can catch lightning in a bottle twice and reach the postseason with a savvy veteran. However after Warner retired, the Cardinals were a revolving door at the quarterback and that ultimately cost Ken Wisenhunt his job. Freeman, just 25, could fit that bill as the transition guy when Palmer is done.

Dominik has been successful in the NFL trading arena before, acquiring cornerback Darrelle Revis in April from the New York Jets for a first-round pick in 2013 and a third-round pick in 2014. Last year, he traded defensive tackle Brian Price to Chicago for a seventh-round pick, and also dealt tight end Kellen Winslow to Seattle for a seventh-round pick, although the compensation was nullified when Winslow didn’t make the Seahawks’ 53-man roster. In 2009, Dominik also traded defensive end Gaines Adams, a former first-round pick, to Chicago for a second-round pick in 2010.

–Mark Cook contributed to this report


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    To be clear, this isn't true: "Brandon Weeden, a first-round pick in 2012 by the former regime, is not the answer at quarterback, and has been benched due to performance and an injured thumb." Weeden's thumb is still injured and that's the only reason he isn't playing. I don't understand why people can't see Weeden is a good QB with absolutely nothing around him. Hoyer gets weapons back and people think Weeden would not have performed just as well and better with those weapons. Shoot, trade Freeman for Weeden. Weeden is a smart QB with a strong arm, doesn't stare down WRs like Freeman and doesn't party and miss events due to whatever excuse Freeman wants to give.
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    Owlykat: Please stop pimping Tim Tebo...W. And for goodness sakes, learn how to spell his name!. Also, get yourself a roster. # 19 is Mike Williams. # 81 is Rutgers TE Tim Wright. Photo reminds me of former faith healer Oral Roberts. Never understood why he didn't just go to the hospital and clear them out.
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    I have looked at the QB's coming out in 2014. If Tampa can get a2jnd or even a 3rd round pick for freeman. Then Tampa could get another high price QB in May with the draft moved back for better evucation. GO BUCS Look at 2014 schedule.Tampa has a bad schedule next year. a good backup qb will help down the road-GO BUCS
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    Don't worry Josh, if things don't get better Schiano will be right behind you in a year or so!
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    I know Freeman isn't an elite QB. However, I also believe the bucs could have made the playoffs last year if the pass defense had been better.. I know Freeman had the team in position to win the first two games this year, both blown by the defense , too many penalties, dropped passes and the kicker. Sure, he made mistakes, but poor coaching is the biggest problem with this team! Glennon was Schianos lust back at Rutgers. But do you think he will blossom under the boneheaded play calling, zone defense ,communication issues and constant penalties, drop passes,poor blocking, and a kicker who can't put it thru the uprights. No quarterback can thrive under those conditions.
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    I have absolutely no idea how this season will play out, but do expect we will learn a lot in the coming months about both QB's and the coaching staff. This season is going to be interesting to say the least. I think it prudent to sit back and see how the Offense looks and performs with Glennon. Predictions vs results will be what keeps this thing interesting. This was certainly not how I wanted things to work out, but I'd be lying if I said I wanted to watch any more of the same. And, as for focusing on Martin and openly challenging our QB to beat teams - if you haven't noticed already, it's already been happening plenty.
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    @BucWild02.. Gruden also had 3-4 yrs left on his contract but was let go anyway and the Buc's still had to pay him. IMO, Glennon needs to win Six games before Schiano will have a chance of staying. If Glennon bombs out there is no doubt that Schiano will be on his way back to college.
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    If I were advising Josh, I would tell him to relax, stay in shape, hire a good sports psychologist and work on off-field personal development. There will be no trades and Josh has a cool 8mil coming his way. I would tell him to stay positive and professional and bide his time. If the Bucs grow tired of him and cut him, he should sign on with another team as a back-up preferably with the Vikings or the Chiefs for 100 dollars and let the Bucs pay the offset portion of the 8mil. If he remains with the team for the remainder of the season and is called on to relieve Glennon, he should go in and play one play and get the worst hamstring pull of his career to the extent that he has to be carted off the field. Then give the thumbs up that he’s OK as he’s carted off and spend the rest of the season in Luke Stocker’s old tub. At the end of the season he should target 3 teams – the KC Chiefs his home town, the Vikings where he has a chance to start and Frazier will let him play his game, and the Steelers where he can sit behind Rothelisberger and learn where his style of football is already played. Then I would tell him to never look back!
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    Sound Advice Mac
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    Captions for the photo.Schiano to Freeman." Before the cock crows three times I will deny you", Schiano to Freeman."Don't worry Josh you are our starter at least until Wednesday" Freeman to Schano "Yeah right, I know I have your full support"
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    Freeman took his final sack(ing). Rejoice Bucs fans - a Freeman turnover worth cheering.
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    I think we should get at least a 2nd/3rd rounder because Freeman can be a efficient QB and if Palmer was worth a 1st+3rd..Although i like Shianos´straight ways; he said it himself the best: its a performance based league. He simply failed. QB gone - checked. Next one gotta be the HC, it is just the GM Dom the Don i am not sure about, because he almost got us ChipKelly - a real new age Football coach with great mind. And Dom got us this Hawks Scout. Seems to understand player evaluation... Keeping Dom or not??? GoGlazers + Dom, good decision on Freeman, get rid of the HC demon, GoBucs!! @horse: yeeeah, looking forward to Sunday!
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    The words "Dominick" and "successful" should never be in the same sentence.
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    "BucWild - what will u say when Glennon looses the next 2 and looks like the rookie he his. You don't know any more than the rest of us. Quit the pompous jerk routine. Good luck Mr. Freeman. What a long strange trip it has been for u. Like Trent Dilfer I wish u all the success possible when you clear the airspace of the zoo that is one buc place. I will say that it's going to be fascinating to see what Freeman's market value is. I don't have a clue how that will turn out.
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    @Mr Inc...-Trent Dilfer was so bad as a Raven, he was the only QB in NFL history to be cut after leading his team to the Superbowl. His ineptitude is a contributing factor as to why many NFL analysts believe that Raven defense was better than the 85 Bears!
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    @Mr INCREDIBLE - Trent was horrible and the Ravens won in spite of him. With such a short memory you may have the makeup to be our new QB or a Cornerback in this league. Coach Billick coined a phrase with Dilfer that stuck and is still used often around the league. Do you recall it ? The emphasis was "not to lose the game" and, at the time, it was stated - not implied.
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    @bucwild2 Guess you are better in evaluating Glennon's talent than Jon Gruden--NOT. Expect 0-4 Sunday even with the Cardinal's beat up defense. But the proof is in the pudding. We will see for sure pretty soon.
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    @owlykat-I think Gruden is awesome but he only likes vets. He never drafted a decent QB at any of his stops. But he brought us the ultimate joy and that is a superbowl team, so...nothing but love for that guy. Glennon was rated the best QB in the class by a few draft experts. Check out Greg Cossell of the NFL Films assessment of Glennon : http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000157833/article/greg-cosell-mike-glennon-better-than-geno-smith His video and point are great...Glennon will stand in there and fire strikes decisively and accurately.
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    This may end up being a good move and glennon may indeed be a better option than freeman for us going forward, but it is unfortunate that freeman has to wear the blame for all the bucs problems the past 9 games...he is not the sole reason the bucs lost 8 of the last 9....and how many of those did he have the bucs ahead in the 4th only to still lose on bad defense execution and play calling? Schiano should be the next head to roll IMO...we'll know soon enough because you no longer have freeman to blame...
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    @bucwild...Glennon can probably squeak out some wins if Schiano stops getting in everyone's way (e.g., calling that awful prevent D; playing Revis in zone; running into 8-man boxes; trying to run out quarters of football; substituting players for no apparent reason to be called for too many men; and so on)...and that would be the worst situation of all...8-8 or 7-9 with Schiano claiming he's turining things around and Glennon just needs a little more experience....NO!!...this has to be the end of Schiano's era and we have to go draft a real QB! The cost of getting rid of Schiano and crew (all 25 or so of them - the largest staff in the NFL) with 3 years left on his contract after 2013, won't be significantly different from hiring a new, respectable coach with a reasonable sized staff....so while the Glazers have been tight with cash, the equation should work fine as the posse exits the building. I'm not wishing Glennon harm, but if we don't get a real QB in the next draft we could actually go into rebuilding mode...again.
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    @ EastEndBoy- Agree that Coach Schiano hasn't been perfect. I like his attention to detail and how fired up the defense has been in the first few weeks. I admire his decision, even though it was made with the GM and Ownership also. In a perfect world, I think you give Glennon more time to develop and bring him in next year, but the defense was assembled to win now and Freeman didn't uphold his end of the bargain with regard to leadership and preparation. Time to make a change.
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    Good Luck JF5!!!! You deserve better!!!!!!!
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    Thank god Shiano benched this goon.Guess coach S isn't as dumb as we all thought.
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    Hooray!!! Finally Freeman is on the bench. He stunk. So now to all you haters who think the coach ruined Freeman, what will you do if and when Glennon wins 3 out of the next 4? Perhaps you'll say you knew all along Coach was right. I will look forward to you all eating some well deserved crow.
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    The good thing here is Schiano is tied to Glennon. If Glennon fails this year Schiano is out the door for sure. Dominik should be let go at the end of this season as he was tied to Freeman. Just another first round BUST. When is this organization ever going to get it RIGHT!
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    @KINDERRT-Schiano has 2 years minimum with the new QB taking the helm, but 4 years remaining on his agreement-which is guaranteed. You do the math.
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    People forget that Freeman's mediocrity is not a 2013 development. The guy has looked like a good QB for less than 1/3 of his starts - and usually only for the 4th quarter in those starts. His amazing season in 2010 came in a year we went 4-0 vs a division that sent a LOSING team to the playoffs as its champ. And I don't think he has ever had a game where he played well without his RB going absolutely bonkers. I just can't see any GM endorsing him by giving up a high round pick and a multi-year deal based on what he has put on tape in his career
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    So Schiano's pet QB will get the start against Arizona. We got to see his Preseason Start against Washington throwing against 3rd string DBs. So I am sure Glennon will be just great against first string DBs--NOT. But Shiano always thinks he knows best. Expect a worse disaster than if Freeman started this week. You know Arizona has watched the film on the Red Skin game and how easily rattled rookie Glennon will be and they will be blitzing all night to shake him up and get turnovers. The Glazers need to have their plan set to fire Schiano and Sherman right after the game. They need to remember that it was DOM who wisely decided not to give Freeman a juicy long term contract at the end of last season when he broke the Bucs yardage record. They need to keep DOM, but tell him to get Dimke, Hillis, and Goode back--all foolish cuts by Schiano, and they can cut his pets such as 19 and Overstreet, and put Glennon and Means on the practice squad, and get the best Veteran QB off waivers to learn over the break--TEBO! If the Glazers want to trade Freeman to save money, I hope they can get a bidding war going and end up with a second round pick. I think Glennon with more experience can be a backup but he does not strike me as a potential elite QB in the NFL. What galls me is that with Glennon's 3rd round pick we could have gotten TE Escobar that is already showing great promise for the Cowboys. We could have used him right now.
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    @owlycat-Freeman gave the Bucs a yardage record? How has his win/loss record? Glennon will have the full offense and offensive line. The kid has swagger and that's a heck of a start. About Dominik-Coach Schiano works with the GM and the GM makes the moves. Dom is at the same games and practices and sees what coach sees. Duh.
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    Nobody in their right mind would give up more than a 5th rounder, and even that is questionable. After freeman has looked as lost as he has, what playoff GM would think he could be an in-season upgrade? What non-playoff team gains long term benefit by giving up a pick and $5 mil of cap space (as Dom has proven, cap rollover is a valuable asset) to impede their chances of rebuilding? And what GM anywhere commits to freeman long term at this juncture when they can offer him the same deal with no compensation this offseason? I just don't see a trade happening unless it's a conditional late round pick.
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    The perception on the outside is that on paper Freeman had everything he needed to succeed except a TE. Sometimes perception trumps reality. The only team I could see giving up anything for Freeman would be the Vikings and the only thing I could see them giving up is a 5th rounder in 2019.
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    @pinkstob- Freeman had weapons. The reality is he was an inconsistent QB with a 24-35 record. Even with Rah and Dom in his corner emotionally early on, the kid couldn't win consistently or get better. The perception that he would get better met the reality that he just cant.
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    I would think a 5th round pick is the most we could get. Durring this past off season... maybe a 2nd and 4th.
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    I'm just looking forward and focusing on this game. It's exciting to have some hope now. Go Bucs!
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    @Horse- Hallelujah Brother! Go Bucs!
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    Have heard about Freemans possible D&A a month ago. Don't expect Dominik to get a great deal for Freeman as Dominik always GIVES his players away.
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    yeah KINDERRT you are right Dominik trades about as well as he drafts. Oakland gets a 1st and a 3rd for Carson Palmer an old guy on the downside of his career with shaky knees and PR is saying Dominik would be happy with a 2nd or a third for a 25 year old QB with a cannon for an arm and some stats that don't look too bad. Whatever team gets Freeman will have their franchise QB if they have an NFL type offensive scheme and an OC that knows how to coach. I was disappointed with every QB trade this team ever made. So why should anything change? The reason the Bucs can't fill the stadium is they are a Mickey Mouse organization and they know nothing about football. I'm tired of being a fan for a team that is stupid and doesn't care about their fans. I hope they move to LA.
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    Assuming JF does not have D&A problems and is just a rich young guy having fun, how does he regress from a QB that threw for 22 TDs and 6 INTs in 2010 and 2& TDs and >4000 yards last year? What changed this year (asumming no D&A)? The QB coach and reciever's coach. Good hires Schiano! You got your boys in there.
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    It would also be nice to understand what happened between Monday when Schiano proclaimed "Freeman is our starter" and today when he switches to "Glennon is our starter"?...either Freeman went off the rails, or Schiano has totally lost it....which is it?
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    @EastEndBoy- Schiano doesn't owe you an explanation. Until they watched video, which the players also watch, and determine who was at fault on the play that was called and who didn't execute, Freeman was the starter. They watched and the Bucs press release said it all. Franchise QB's can't be as inconsistent as Freeman has been. Freeman has great measurables but doesn't show improvement or maturity. Finally glad that as a ticket purchaser, I will get to see Glennon spin it with the weapons and defense we have.
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    But when will we fire Schiano Scott? That's the more pertinent question....
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    @EastEndBoy- In the eventual future. Maybe 4 years or maybe 14 years. Time will tell. One thing is certain...Schiano has a guaranteed contract(15 mil) and with a QB change, ownership will be patient for the next 2 seasons guaranteed.
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    Too bad Al Davis isn't still alive. That nut would give the Bucs a first rounder for him.
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