The professional paths of Jason Licht and Jon Robinson have crossed enough that Thursday’s big-news trade between the Tennessee Titans and Los Angeles Rams didn’t totally surprise the Bucs’ general manager.
But he still didn’t foresee something quite like this. The Titans sent their No. 1 overall selection to the Rams, as well as their fourth- and sixth-round picks, in return for St. Louis’ first four slots in the draft (15th overall in the first, two in the second and one in the third) and the first- and third-round picks next year.
“That’s the way we grew up together, to be bold,” Licht said during his Thursday afternoon press conference at One Buccaneer Place, speaking of his and Robinson’s professional development over the years. The pair has spent eight years working for the same NFL organization, beginning with a three-year stint in New England and ending when Robinson left in January as the Bucs’ Director of Player Personnel to become the Titans’ general manager.
This trade, however, was exceptionally bold, Licht admitted.
“We’ve talked periodically the last couple months,” he said. “I’ll keep those conversations private but it did shock me they did this. I was happy for him.”
When asked to assess the transaction, Licht said it was far too early to tell if one team outmaneuvered the other.
“It seems like both teams got what they wanted,” he said. “If somebody just asked me, ‘who do you think won on that trade?’ you can’t say the answer to that right now. You’ve got to let it play out. It’s great to have a bunch of picks. If you’re a team like Jon Robinson and the Titans it’s great to have a bunch of picks – for any team. But if you’re L.A. and you have a player that you want, you’ve got to pay for it, go up and if that player works out they’re going to think they won.
“So I thought right now on the surface both teams got what they wanted.”
Thursday’s trade now takes a team with a designated franchise quarterback (Tennessee and Marcus Mariota) and slots it behind Tampa Bay’s pick at No. 9 overall and swaps it with a team, St. Louis, searching for an answer at the position.
There are still eight organizations that will take players off the board before the Bucs. But if the Rams go after a quarterback, as expected, that leaves one more available non-QB.
Without getting into specifics, Licht spoke about the trade’s potential impact and if it’s a positive for the Bucs.
“Yeah, it could, but it’s all a bunch of ifs, ands and buts still at this point,” he said. “The draft never works out the exact way that you put it down. You’ve got to wait to see how the draft flows.
“It’s kind of like a play caller. You have your script during the game. Dirk has things that he wants to do but sometimes it doesn’t work out that way and you have to revise your plan a little bit and shoot from the hip for the lack of a better phrase. But every draft is different.”
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I believe the Rams just got took big time, but they made the offer. If I’m the Titans, I am doing back flips. This is nothing more than a marketing splash for the LA area. I see no player worthy of this type of trade in the draft.
Horse, I agree with you about it being a “marketing splash” deal for the Rams. Those type of trades usually don’t work out. I guess we have to wait and see. I’m glad the Bucs aren’t in the AFC South. Go Bucs!!!!
Definitely has the feel of marketing splash. I feel like maybe theyre getting some karma coming back their way as to the RG3 trade too when they hosed the Skins….Either way, If they get the guy that changes it all for them, will they have gotten hosed? Hindsight obviously being 20/20, but as of now, would you have made that trade from 15 to 1 to get Winston last year? I probly wouldve but he was the guy I wanted from week 3 on when I knew it was gonna be a long year.
Well Horse Tenn got there picks they needed.Maybe Tampa could swing some magic also.Go Bucs
I agree Horse sure Seems on surface Rams got hosed, but who knows. Better for Bucs for sure. Be nice if Dallas took a QB too. Be another non QB talent for us!
I heard Hershel Walker was involved as well.
you mean RG3 wasn’t worth all the picks the Redskins gave up ??
1. I was concerned when I saw Paxton Lynch not invited to the NFL Draft that the Rams & Jets would not be interested in trading up for our pick.
2. Now I could see Tenn trading up to our pick to get Stanley or Conklin. That is Tenn BIGGEST need.
3. We may need to play chicken with Tenn and select Stanley or Conklin and force their hand. We could do a lot worse than getting someone to protect the Buc’s prized asset. Not a sexy pick but very little downside.
4. I hope people see how expensive it would be to trade up to get Ramsey.
Your telling me an unproven, unheralded college QB is worth all those draft picks and Glennon is not worth a 2nd (or Denver’s 1st)?
YES…..Maybe a third. Could be a second if all QB’s are gone early in draft. Time will tell.
I am reminded of the trade the Bucs made to get Gruden. A lot of people thought the Bucs got suckered. But, it was one of the difference makers that brought them a Super Bowl championship. Many after that concluded it was worth it. If this brings the Rams a championship, it was worth it.
1. The Bucs were close to a championship. The Rams are not.
2. When was the last time a rookie QB lead a team to the Super Bowl?
3. Remember the Buc’s years after mortgaging their future for 1 Super Bowl
Bottom Line: Looks like Fisher is throwing a hail mary just to save his job.
Carson Wentz to the Rams? Interesting. That would leave Cleveland high and dry at #2. Do they go Goff at that point? So, the Rams would be out of the Glennon sweepstakes, but Cleveland might become very interesting trade partner for the Bucs…
That’s a good point. We give them Glennon and we swap Spot 2 and 9; we select Ramsey! Of course I base the value of Glennon based on the value pewter report promotes. Go Bucs!
This would be great for us. The rumor in the clubhouse is that the Rams and Cleveland want the same guy. This is why the Rams did their deal. So maybe the browns might start looking at the other QB’s and see that Glennon would be a far wiser choice. This could get interesting…
The Rams might of made a good trade. If the Bucs were at 15 last year, what would you gave up to get Winston? I would of fave that up and more.
Been a PR subscriber since back when we received the print edition in the mail (the good ol’ days). Used to comment here for a short time a few years ago but saw it as a waste of time as at that time there were a few posters who were always negative and argumentative. But I’ve been reading the posts daily this whole time and it seems the climate here is much more respectful these days. I figure maybe it’s time to comment again here and there since I haven’t felt this excited about the Bucs’ direction since the year after the Super Bowl and it looks like things are pointing up for this team.
Anyway, back on topic, I don’t think anything has changed for the Bucs as a result of this trade. Wentz and Goff were always going to be picked in front of us. The only thing that’s different now is instead of Wentz going #2 to Cleveland he goes #1 to the Rams. Cleveland now likely takes Goff at #2. Lynch was never considered a top 10 QB anyway, so there are still going to be 6 non-QB’s taken in front of the Bucs just like before. Yes, I’m sure Philly and Dallas might be PO’d that they’ve been leapfrogged and now they have no shot at a top-10 worthy QB but I’m pretty sure the Bucs are still in the same situation they’ve been in all along. Just my take.
Welcome back, FLBoyinDallas! I am also a veteran from the “Buccaneer Magazine” print days. Hope to read more from you. Go Bucs!!!!
I go all the way back to the grandfather of Pewter report, It’s Sports Magazine.
Always enjoyed your posts FLBoy. We still have a few so-called Bucs fans who seem to enjoy casting a shadow on anything the team does; but for the most part, the juvenile name-calling and insults that often were too common a few years back have waned.
I agree FLBoyInDallas. I don’t think this trade affects who falls down to the Bucs at all. Wentz and Goff were going to be drafted ahead of us on Wednesday and they’ll be drafted ahead of us on draft day.
Glad to hear from you again. This is the start of many exciting years to come as I believe we are on our way to the playoffs.
I enjoyed reading your thoughts FLBoy. I don’t write much because my knowledge is limited, but I sure do enjoy what you all write. I live in California, but lived in Tampa for 3 years while in the Air Force at MacDill…I think that if the Rams get a good QB out of the deal; it was a good trade. BTW, I am happy that the Rams came to LA, because we will see better football on TV. Not a big fan of the Raiders. Go Bucs.
I was stationed at MacDill during the late 1960’s to mid 1970’s. It’s a lot different now without the F-4’s.
Use to go to McDill in the early 1960’s while in high school and play some pick up basketball games with the Air Force Officers. I loved watching those F-4’s take off. Who knew a few years later I would be watching some of those air force officers come in for their bombing runs and saving our butts from being over run along the DMZ in Viet Nam. I even got to go out one time and help rescue two F-4 Pilots that got shot down just inside North Viet Nam. Obviously they were happy to see us Army guys in the summer of 1970.
As for the draft, it’s crazy all the possibilities that the Bucs could be involved in this year. I could see Bosa dropping, Hargreaves or Apple being the pick, Stanley or Conklin being there and the Bucs trading down with a team that needs a franchise LT, taking a DT like Rankins or surprising everyone and taking A’Shaun Robinson whose upside is almost unlimited, or even pulling a fast one and selecting someone like Myles Jack to play SAM on running downs and as an extra safety on passing downs. Haven’t seen a draft in a long time with this many unknowns and scenarios. I’m confident, though, that Licht will do a heck of a job again.
Exciting isn’t it? it’s a flashback to the late 1990’s, but this time it’s the offense instead of the defense which will lead us.
I’ve thought of that Miles Jack scenario too.
Scu; i don’t know, past memories of Keith McCants knees.
Before we lambaste the Rams for this trade, let’s juts look at exactly what the last blockbuster resulted in:
Redskins = Robert Griffin III
St. Louis = Greg Robinson (staring bust in the face), Alec Ogletree (average LB), Stedman Bailey (who? WR), Zac Stacy (who? RB), Michael Brockers (average DT), Janoris Jenkins (NYG), Isaiah Pead (who? RB) and Rokevious Watkins (who???).
So yes RGIII was a bust, but trading away a bunch picks that could just as easily all be busts for a shot at a guy that could be your franchise is not necessarily a terrible idea.
Not that I would do it, but let’s just not be too hard on the Rams….yet.
EEB, the chances of any QB in this year’s draft hitting like Jameis or Marcus is really a roll of the dice. If the Rams miss with this pick, they will have done horrible damage to their franchise.
Now, coming from St. Louis and seeing how the Rams owner threw the city under the proverbial bus to relocate the team, I really love them sticking their neck out. Just hope it gets lopped off!
I thought the main point for the Bucs is that Stanley will probably be available at #9
Spot on horse…ND State? John Robinson fleeced the Rams! And Coach Fish!
The posters above saying this deal really changes nothing are right on point. Licht still has to be ready to deal with anything on a moment’s notice and I think he is up to it. To me, since McCoy is getting older and too often injured we need to grab his future replacement now who in tandem with McCoy can disrupt any Offense from the inside and help our outside DEs get more sacks. The new DT has to also be able to play NT on third down and use our speed rushers as OLBs and keep our DEs in there who can stop the run. Get a 280 pound DE in the second round who has proven he can stop the run and to develop in case one of our starting DEs goes down. I see no need to trade down.
I believe that Tampa sistutation will be better sistutation on Thursday April 28. I see anything is possible. I Glennon and Tampa No#9 to get Ramsley is maybe a better seniaro at this date. Maybe Ramsley is a smoke screen. Maybe trading down with Titans and get the #15 selection and get CB Eli Apple from Ohio State. Plus get other choices maybe a 2nd and a 3rd and then Trading Qb Mike Glennon for NyJets #20 pick. So We Will See.Go Bucs
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