When Bucs quarterback Mike Glennon took over the starting job following Josh McCown’s thumb injury in Week 3, and went on the road and won at Pittsburgh the following week, many assumed it was Glennon’s job to keep for the remainder of the season. And while that may still ultimately be the case, if you listen to head coach Lovie Smith, nothing is guaranteed.
On Monday, during his day after press conference, Smith talked about the quarterback play of Glennon and the usual, “glass half full” coach was critical of Glennon’s game on Sunday at Cleveland.
“We had a lot of opportunities,” Smith said. “We had good matchups with both our wide receivers yesterday. Accuracy, some decisions we made with the turnovers – both of those turnovers should have been touchdowns, we feel like, instead of interceptions putting them in a favorable position. Starting off with that.”
Smith was asked if he and the staff contemplated making a switch back to McCown at halftime of Sunday’s loss to Cleveland.
“Yes, whenever any position is struggling during the course of the game, you look at is there a better option at the time,” Smith said. “I didn’t think that Mike played – I thought Mike would be able to come out of it.”
Glennon, who struggled in the previous three losses, but especially with accuracy on Sunday – 17-of-33 for 260 yards with two touchdowns and two interceptions – has opened the door for a possible return for McCown as the Buccaneers are desperate to get back in the win column.
“It’s always week-to-week with what we do,” Smith said. “We look at who we think gives us the best opportunity to win this week, last week. Mike [Glennon] would be the first guy to tell you he’s played a lot better than he played last week. Josh [McCown] is healthy and ready to go right now. That’s the strength of the quarterback position that we talked about. Right now, we’ll see who’s available – we have a couple of days and we’ll kind of go from there.”
Smith also gave the criteria for how he will make his decision on who starts next Sunday at home against the Falcons.
“How we match up, play in practice this week, history also – last time we played, everything comes into play with that,” Smith said. “And then it’s just a feel at the end on who we think gives us the best chance. I know that’s coach talk, but that’s what it always comes down to – who we think gives us the best chance based on who we’re playing, what type of game, what type of gameplan we think we’re going with. That’s something we’re just not talking about the quarterback position – we’re talking about all positions.”
Mark Cook currently is the director of editorial content and Bucs beat writer and has written for PewterReport.com since 2011. Cook has followed the Buccaneers since 1977 when he first began watching football with his Dad and is fond of the 1979 Bucs team that came within 10 points of going to a Super Bowl. His favorite Bucs game is still the 1979 divisional playoff win 24-17 over the Eagles. In his spare time Cook enjoys playing guitar, fishing, surfing and family time at the beach. In addition, Cook can be found in front of a television or in Doak Campbell any time the FSU Seminoles are playing. Cook is a native of Pinecrest in Eastern Hillsborough County and has written for numerous publications including the Tampa Tribune, In the Field and Ya'll Magazine. Cook can be reached at [email protected]
At 10:30pm PewterReport tweeted this!
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I know some #Bucs fans would rather the team tank for a high draft pick, but the players and staff aren’t thinking about next year yet.
If the Bucs go back to McCown, it won’t matter what some fans want, they will assure that they get the first pick in the draft!
After reading my post, I need to clarify. To be clear PR tweeted the first paragraph.
I responded with the following smart alecky paragraph “If the Bucs go back to McCown, it won’t matter what some fans want, they will assure that they get the first pick in the draft!”
Don’t want the PR guys going “We never said that!”. lol
Lovie is just looking to put McCown in as soon as he can
Since Lovie and Licht’s original plan was for McCown to be the starter after evaluating Glennon in the off season; coupled with the fact that Glennon has shown little to make anyone think he is a budding star; I thought McCown might actually get the start the Cleveland game. We know Lovie won’t make an announcement, but I think we’ll be going back to Plan A. Maybe we can improve from the 32nd ranked offense achieved by Plan B.
McCown stinks period. Glennon marginally better. Really doesn’t matter which one plays anymore we can’t win and beat even other bad teams. Glennon is not starter material, but would be a better than average backup. McCown is terrible with any pressure on him. Just throws it up for grabs. Crazy. Lovie should just cut him now, and admit mcCown was one of many free agent blunders, let glennon finish this cluster F-ck of a season so he can be sure he saw enough of him and then draft us a real starter and begin building an O line around him and we might actually have something.
This story broke on NFl mobile before broke here too by the way.
McCown sucks. This is Lovie trying to find cover. It’s not Glennon’s fault our team sucks. He needs to play better but for goodness sake, look at the disaster regimes he has played under, coming in as a backup in both cases. As an aside, would the team be playing better or worse if Schiano had stayed? Clearly better, at least so far, to me. McCown will be out of football in 1-2 yrs, let’s not waste another snap on him. So far Lovie and Licht have been a huge disappointment, if they compound their mistakes in 2h of the season and next offseason, I may have to give up and wait for the (next) new regime.
I actually wouldn’t mind seeing what McCown can do, now that expectations are low again. I think we now know what Glennon brings to the table – ie being a serviceable backup. Either way, none of this changes the fact that we will be searching for a franchise QB in the next draft.
It doesn’t matter who starts, but I think they will give Glennon one more week to show something based on the fact that Lovie brought up “history”. The last time McCown played the Falcons it resulted in our worst loss ever. Also, I’ve heard both PR and posters claim that Schiano would have the team playing better, or at least the defense playing better. Let’s be clear, Schiano was in over his head as an NFL HC. The defense played better last year because we had Revis, plain and simple. About 90% of experienced NFL coaches pretty much run the team the same way. The wins and losses ultimately come down to the players. We saw first hand how bad John Fox’s teams performed in his later years in Carolina, now look at him. It sure helps to have P. Manning and an eye for talent like Elway picking players, doesn’t it? Licht has looked pretty good so far as a drafter. Let’s give him a chance to draft a QB before we run another head coach out the door.
Bucs beat Viking and Browns if McCown started either of those games. Bam! I said it! AND will beat the Falcons if he starts this week. If not each PR reader can pluck a beard hair one by one! Seriously though, Glennon is painfully immobile. I was in Cleveland and he literally looked like he was running with cement boots in quicksand. I honestly believe McCown picks up at least three first downs in the Browns game with his feet alone. Just my opinion though. And Mac I was the one who tweeted that last night. My point was this staff and most importantly the players want to win this week, the last seven weeks, and the rest of the games on the schedule. Of course they know McCown isn’t the long term solution, but after the last three games, the 13 last season, I don’t see Glennon as that either though. So why not go back to someone who can at least help you win now, if that’s what the believe to be the case. I do appreciate the feedback.
I knew it was you Mark. Love your late night tweets. Keep up the good work!
I sympathize with Lovie Smith. He is on the horns of a dilemma. He doesn’t want to be a 1-15 coach in his first season and he doesn’t want to lose out on perhaps the only two franchise QB candidates in the 2015 draft.
You can be sure that if the Jets and the Titans pick before the Bucs, both Mariota and Winston will be gone. Or he spends a fortune in draft picks to move up when he needs every draft pick he has now and a few more based on overall team needs. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
I would not go back to McCown now. Let it play out. Glennon hasn’t been terrible, he’s simply shown that he is not the long-term solution at QB. The Bucs had their worst game against the Falcons with McCown at QB. Lovie is going to be criticized anyway, playing McCown now is inviting unnecessary criticism. Remember the old commercial “Let Mikey try it!” – that would be my strategy.
Let sleeping dogs lie. Let things play out and let the chips fall where they may! Lovie is somewhere between a rock and a hard place. Honor the rule of holes. When you’re in a hole, stop digging! (sorry about the metaphors, just the kinda guy I am)
Thanks Mac and I love your opinions and posts. Good stuff. you are dead on about Lovie. Being a 1-15 coach at the very least invites the Glazers to reconsider the hire. But are they willing to eat $20 million they would owe him, plus the $6 million still owed Schiano. but we have seen teams move up to get their QB if they think one of them is the answer. I don’t think you approach the rest of the season worrying about draft position. If you go 1-15 it very well could end up being someone else’s decision to make!
Melman has been terrible though, terrible on 3rd downs, terrible in the red zone, terrible in the 4th quarter (except one game, where he was terrible, then got a lucky extra series and scored). I hope the Bucs win and draft the best QB available when they do draft. I just don’t know that they will use a #1 pick on a QB with Lovie at the helm.
re 4th quarter – when not a blowout, he did fine against prevent defense in blow outs.
Glennon is not the long term answer. We’ve seen enough over 2 years to understand that. He IS a very solid backup. The goal is to win games and McCown gives us the best chance. If a team really needs a franchise QB, then you find the right ammunition and move up in the draft. It IS that simple.
Mark there isnt a difference maker at the QB position on our roster. You can say that McCown would’ve ran for a few more first downs and I say he would’ve thrown another pick or fumbled one of those plays trying to pick up the 1st. Just the way our season has gone and more importantly its how he has played this year. Lovie can flip a coin for who starts and somehow I dont see the results changing with this bunch. McCown was a training camp wonder but looking at our defense so far thats not saying much.
No excuses for his early play. Although I would say objectively, the offensive line played much better in Pittsburgh, New Orleans and in Cleveland than they did did in McCown’s 10 quarters of starts this year. And even against this defense in OTAs and camp, Glennon never looked any different than he has so far in the regular season. But Josh knows and the organization knows those picks he threw were awful. I am just not convinced he got a fair shake with the early play of the line. And add in Arroyo’s play calling early, and I would like to see him get one more shot. If he stinks so be it, keep him around to mentor Mariota or Winston next year.
I want to see McCown play sans the turnstile Oline as well.
Mark..I didn’t realize Arroyo’s play calling has improved. What ever happened to our new and top secret offense that no one could see in the preseason? The secret was we had no offense that was any different then the ones in the past,poor.
I mentioned this the other day somewhere, but I had a prominent offensive player tell me off the record that the loss of Tedford can’t be understated. It threw everything off. Arroyo continues to make questionable calls, but I think just the fact that it is 8 games into the season he is better based at the least just as on experience and understanding the flow of the game. I also think the game plan at Cleveland was really good except for that last series which was as bad as it gets.
IF McCown comes back and starts you can kiss Evans progress to goodbye. McCown doesn’t have the arm to throw to Evans or Jackson deep. I agree that Glennon is an adequate backup. Let’s pretend our starting quarterback went down for the season and now Glennon has to play out the rest of the season. Mark, I don’t get it why you are supporting McCown? He’s the reason we lost the first two games. Now you are thinking we can beat the Falcons with him as our quarterback? That doesn’t sound logical to me.
He’s the reason they lost? He plays defense too? He certainly contributed with his errors. But QBs throw INTS. Andrew Luck has thrown the fourth most, Drew Brees has the fifth most.If you use that logic then Glennon lost last week’s game. As far as arm strength that is just completely false. He had no problem throwing deep balls all camp. If anything Glennon is king of the underthrow on deep balls. If McCown plays and stinks up the joint I will be the first to admit I was wrong, but if he wins and this team gets on a roll then I expect the same thing! He is a much better athlete. Not even close. And you can’t ignore the fact he played well last year in 8 starts going 5-3 with 13 TDs and one INT. I don’t understand how people can just brush that off. I went back and watched four of those eight games. He played well, it wasn’t by accident. Yep, he didn’t play up to that level in his first two and a half games but there is a big difference between Chicago’s OC and this one this year. Plus Evans is playing better than he was earlier in the season. I can assure you Glennon is not making Evans look better, it is the other way around Horse. But it is all in good fun and debate. Thanks for the feedback, even if I am right lol. Just kidding. Maybe we find out this weekend man.
Yeah, “the cannon” is more of a pop gun. If you took some chicken bullion and boiled his arm with it, you’d end up with Ramen noodles.
I’m with you Horse, McCown is horrible. The defenses know exactly how to play the weak arm QB now. 13 years in the NFL, are you kidding me? Oh, Glennon comes in TWICE in adverse conditions and everyone knows he is no good. I see good and bad in Glennon and nothing in McCown. I hope we don’t pick another QB in round 1…I think it will be another wasted pick. Let’s build up both our lines!
I am in complete agreement with Mark Cook. The play calling, offensive line play and Evans improved play are all reasons enough to go beck to McCown and sit Glennon. Lovie Smith has an obligation to the players and fans alike to do everything possible to win every game THIS YEAR and let the draft play itself out NEXT YEAR. Clearly, Mike Glennon is not the answer for the future so play for today!!!
mark I hear you I hope you’re right. I’d rather be wrong and have a win. my main concern is how do we stop Ryan?
The only way is pressure. The Falcons line is in bad shape so the opportunity will be there. But we have seen this line play bad against some other banged up lines. But you can bet Atlanta will take a page from the Ravens offense and use a ton of three step drops.
Very good point Mark. I was thinking the same thing when Cleveland was doing it. I believe most 3rd and long Cleveland used the 3 step successfully. I wonder why they didn’t continue? I think they would have scored at least 2 more TD’s if they had. 3 step slant across the middle will get you at least 20 yards on this Lovie Defense.
If you put McCown back in perhaps it helps the trade value for Glennon.
Look Glennon is what he is, he’s a game manager (at best) and while he’s a good backup, he’s a below average starter.
Well no more suspense. Glennon has confirmed that he has been told that McCown will start. Lovie gets credit for having the stones to playi the guy that he thinks has the best chance to win.
But it was not the politically expedient thing to do. If Glennon had played, Glennon would have been on front street. By making this decision, Lovie has placed himself squarely on front street.
If Glennon had won, lovie could take credit for staying the course and not making a knee jerk response. If Glennon had lost, he would be lauded for making a wise and timely change going forward because Glennon left him no alternative.
Now McCown must win or Lovie will be accused of favoritism and derided for going back to a confirmed loser – a chance that did not need to be taken by a coach and a team that is going nowhere this season.
Good luck because we’re going to need it!
focus should be on how do we stop Ryan.
Whether it’s McCown or Glennon I don’t think makes much difference. Go Bucs!
It doesn’t seem to matter who the QB is. We have conclusively indicated the Bucs have no one qualified to be an NFL starter. What a shame….
A lot of nice debate. Who would you least like to date; Rossie O’Donnel or Roseanne Barr? That’s the type of option we have here.
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