Just prior to the trading deadline, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have dealt 2012 first-round pick Mark Barron to the St. Louis Rams for fourth- and sixth-round picks in the 2015 draft pick, and reserve linebacker Jonathan Casillas to New England Patriots for a 2015 draft pick.
Bucs general manager Jason Licht commented on the trades soon after they were completed.
“We have a lot of respect for Jonathan (Casillas) and Mark (Barron) as players,” Licht said. “We appreciate their hard work and what they did for us here. In some of these cases with trades, we find a partner where they feel that their (players) services are needed more there than they are here. That’s the case here. We wish them the best and nothing but the best. They’ve been great program guys here for Lovie and myself. I hope nothing but the best for them in the future.”
Rumors surfaced last week that the team was fielding offers for wide receiver Vincent Jackson, running back Doug Martin and Barron, but the team never had plans to deal Jackson, unless it was for a second-round pick. The Bucs were looking to deal Martin, but didn’t find the right trading partner that would give up adequate compensation, which was believed to be at least a fourth-round pick.
While Jackson is 31-years old and in the back end of his career, Mark Barron is just 25, still playing in a favorable rookie contract.
But given Barron’s lack of progress, especially in 2014, this trade starts to make more sense. While Barron has shown promise in the run game, he’s lacked good coverage skills ever dating back to his rookie campaign. In a Tampa 2 system, safeties are involved in coverage just as much as cornerbacks. Combine this with the fact that head coach Lovie Smith and general manager Jason Licht did not draft the former Crimson Tide star, and it becomes clear that the Buccaneers’ future would not include Mark Barron.
In his 37-game Buccaneers career, Barron has recorded 225 tackles, three interceptions and two sacks.
Barron was the No. 7 overall pick in the 2012 NFL Draft ahead of players like linebacker Luke Kuechly, wide receiver Michael Floyd, and defensive ends Bruce Irvin and Chandler Jones.
While Barron’s career in Tampa Bay wasn’t extremely disappointing, most Bucs fans would agree the Mobile, Ala. native hasn’t lived up to his Top 10 draft status and seems to have regressed under Smith and Leslie Frazier’s scheme.
Tampa Bay is expected to start Dashon Goldson and Major Wright at safety and have Bradley McDougald and Keith Tandy as reserves.
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Well we didn’t need two strong safeties, so it’s good we got something for him, it is unfortunately just another 1st round bust for the Bucs. That has to change. Casillas….he didn’t play anyway, so not much of a loss there.
Don’t like it at all. Did he live up to expectations, No. But was he a serviceable safety. Yes. Now we hope to find another serviceable player with a 4th round pick. Well we know the track record of those. Blah….
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Liked this draft selection at the time, but he was a liability in coverage, another blown 1st round draft pick by the Bucs but thats the norm around Tampa.
I think LiLo did great stuff in the draft last year, give them a few seasons and they will have a team. Getting rid of dead-weight is important. Barron was exactly that, too bad Martin did not get traded. Probably will just end up getting cut like Revis in the off season. Have not been like Wright’s play at safety at all. Maybe McDougald can step up, and Tandy can make plays. Good day overall.
This Barron trade is garbage. I just looked up our previous 4th and 6th round picks from the last 6/7 years, the only 2 noteworthy names are Mike Williams and Will Gholston. The rest are either not on the roster, not in the league, or are marginal filler players. And we plan to replace Barron using those picks? He may not have lived up to the billing of a 7th overall pick, but (A) he’s only 25, (B) he’s learning a new system, and (C) he’s better than what we will get back for those picks. Trading away young talent for mid / late round picks is not the way to build a winning franchise. This combined with the Mankins trade (how’s that working out for our O-Line btw?) is making me lose confidence in this regime’s roster management abilities. If you can’t get back the value of what a player is worth in a trade, you don’t just take whatever you can get, you don’t make the trade.
Agree completely. With that said, we need draft picks that count. If they are as bad as in the past then both this GM and coach can hit the road.
Not going to over analyze this one. Draft FS Cody Prewitt/Ole Miss in the 2nd round and never look back!
No way should we take a safety in the 2nd. Need OL and DE in first and 2nd.
It became obvious this season that Barron didn’t meet our expectations. I really thought he would be another John Lynch, but by the end of last season I lowered my expectations. At least we got something for him. Go Bucs!
Another case of Dominicitis. Malaise and dyspepsia. Another disastrous first round pick. NO Luke Kuechly. Any wonder we are a rotten football team!
Give Doug Martin a decent offensive line and see how he does. Demarco Murray would have trouble running behind ours.. They can’t block an aisle at Publix.
Deep down I really had wished that we could of traded Dashon Goldson just because Mark Barron still had time to grow, but I do understand that no team wanted to give up a good draft pick and pick up his contract. Both safeties have been killing us on the deep ball so it had to be one of them gone. Of course I do believe Goldson will be gone by the end of the season. Mark Barron was a great tackler and always had a highlight tackle, but so many times I watched touchdown passes been thrown his way. We all saw the frustration came with Revis when Barron didn’t help with coverage due to our scheme. At the end of the day you have to look at it like does he fit the scheme of a Lovie Defense and sadly he does not. The big hitters of safeties are a dying breed now with all the new penalty rules. I wish Mark Barron the best of luck and hope this works out well for the Bucs.
This is an awful move…Effectively we traded T.Wright, M.Barron, J.Casillas for a 6th round pick and L.Mankins (who we wouldnt have needed if we kept D.Joseph). Barron may not have been the best in coverage, but he could play the curl/flat zone and drop some bone jarring hits. Welcome to the laughing stock of the NFL, we are battling the raiders for the rights to #1 overall pick
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Although I was very surprised to see this move the more I thought about it the more sense it makes. When I first heard we got Lovie I cringed at the idea of two strong safeties and Foster being our deep pass defenders. I would rather have just seen Goldson go this season or next, but I guess Barron was the only one with trade value. I think the compensation was fair and we can just move Goldson to SS. Next year we have to find a real FS. Goldson may be released next year but we’ll see.
I wasn’t aware that Lovie and Frazier had a defensive scheme. They can blame the old regime for a while, but shedding good O-linemen for inferior O-linemen is another Bucs “cheap, cheap” moves. I think Barron may thrive in a different system. The Bucs need to use high drat picks for O-linemen and D-linemen. That’s what the good teams do. The whole thing (alienating Bucs fans systematically) looks like a plot to facilitate a move to LA. This team is a joke.
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Another starter traded for picks that we never are successful with. And we all thought Jackson or Martin was getting traded. This Organization is moving in the wrong direction.
Another sad day in Tampa Bay. People want to look at who we might have drafted instead of Barron like that “I could have had a V8” revelation. Sure is easy to pick the winning number when the Draft roulette wheel stops spinning. As I recall, at the time it was CB Morris Claiborne who most thought we should draft. Jerry “Facelift” Jones made that blunder. For the Buccaneers frequency of Draft and free agent disasters, I attribute it to the Curse of the Scubog Player Jersey phenomenon. # 80 Michael Clayton, #24 Darelle Revis, original #24 Mark Barron obsolete with change to #23, #19 Mike Williams. There’s no doubt in my mind that the next players to be released will be #22 Doug Martin and #94 Adrian Clayborn. I also have #54 Lavonte David and #93 Gerald McCoy so their careers may now be doomed by the curse. Maybe I’ll just wear the Pewter Report tee shirt I won. Better get your finances in order Scott.
Please wear a Melman jersey!
(hint it’s #8)
I guess it’s time to audition players for next year. I hope they try Kieth Tandy back there instead of Major Wright. Tandy used to be a corner, so he has coverage skills that the Tampa 2 covets at safety. He also has more upside due to his age. I’d also like to see the Bucs experiment with the MLB position. I’d like to get a look at Foster on the strong side, and see if someone on our roster has the ability to play middle. Since David,and Foster can both call the defense, whoever we try only has to worry about their own assignments. I wouldn’t be opposed to shaking up the O line either. Try flipping Dot, and Collins, and since Mankins isn’t in the long term plans sit him down, and see if anyone can save us from using a high pick on a guard. At this point it’s time to see who’s worth keeping, and who won’t be here 2015. I’d tweak what we do some also. Maybe we get off the field if we blitz instead of rushing just four on third down? How many times do the Buc LB’s show blitz, then back out? Always in the A, and B cap, how bout bringing David off the edge? With his speed he’d force the offense to account for him. Haven’t seen any corner blitzes either that Ronde made a living at. Come on Lovie, show us something. Replace Arroyo as O.C. also, he hasn’t shown me any reason to believe he’ll ever be any good at calling plays. Might as well fire Warhop too, his line plays worse every week.
With Barron playing better in the box I wonder if anyone gave any thought to trying him out at MLB given their responsibilities in our system. Put a few pounds on him and I think it would’ve been interesting. Overall I’m not a fan on this deal as he was the better of our 2 safeties, younger and cheaper. Lovie earned his stripes on defense so i’ll trust he knows what he’s doing but this one on the surface is a head scratcher.
domindork does the bucs in again another first round waste, this team is going nowhere fast. they better draft Winston because mm from Oregon is not as good as Winston, forget the off field problems he is better qb on the field, but this regime has made one bad decision after another from free agency to draft to trades, evans made be good but he is a plodder speed kills in the nfl, both are wideouts are plodders really there is no team speed on offense
Not only is this season a waste, but I honestly don’t see this team making a playoff run for several years. Fire sale on the defense is as bad of a sign as it gets. Yes McCoy is a great player, but a defensive tackle is nothing without a support cast. Honestly I would have traded McCoy because at least he had some trade value
Bad drafts have handicapped this team. Choosing Barron ahead of Kuechly was a monumental blunder. Not only was Kuechly head and shoulders above Barron but he was drafted in our division and now we have to face him twice a year. The dearth of talent of this team means we are at least 2 years away from being competitive and that’s if the new regime can do better in the draft. This year’s draft looks good, however, the free agend picks look to be busts.
I’m not ready to concede the next game; I think we should play our best players. If we lose this game then I too believe it’s time to see who will be here next year.
We traded down to take Barron, they other player we looked at was Claibourn and he is a bust at Dallas. Scouting needs to get better.
I really don’t understand why its so hard to scout good players, draft them, and put a winning team on the field. Im literally fed up with this organization. year after year they disappoint me and I try hard to support them but im over it. When they decide they want to actually compete and show that they care about winning football games then I will show support. until then, I have better things to do with my life then worry about a football team that continues to show me that they could care less about the fans that bleed their colors. just pathetic. lovie has been a massive disappointment and its BS that our defense has looked this poor. what a joke.
It is very difficult to scout players because there is little difference between NFL Players except for their positions they play. Some of it is just plain luck. Most are coached by their agents what to say in interviews and what type of pre draft training program they should be on. There’s a whole lot of charting and film analysis and back ground to check. The small things like heart, passion, scheme adjustments, and how they handle losing is where the risk is tough to score consistently.
Being able to perform well against a whole team of top notch players is different that doing it in college against a handful at most. Beating up on weak competition gets some players a great rep and a high draft position, but then when they play against real men, they suck. Look at Bowers, he dropped to the 2nd round because he was hurt, but supposedly was a 1st round DE. We know now that he can’t play well on the NFL level, but didn’t then. I thought it was a good pick at the time, but have felt for a couple years that the experiment had gone on too long and he was a waste of a roster spot.
I just read some of Mark Barron’s parting remarks regarding the Bucs.
Barron on Bucs defense: “It is passive. That’s kind of the only thing I didn’t like about it. I had to sit back, couldn’t be as aggressive.”
More Mark Barron on Bucs: “Did I think that we could have been using me more? Yeah, I do. … It’s just the way the system was run.”
I’m beginning to think the Bucs traded a disgruntled employee!
Now what good are more picks when a team and it’s coaches are incompetent and unable to make wise picks? The Bucs will likely trade both of those picks to move up in the first round to sign the years biggest bust! this team- top to bottom can be turned into a manual called ‘ How NOT to build a successful NFL franchise’…it’s not getting better and won’t anytime that I can see…if we do end up with a decent player we will likely ship him to the patriots….
I am not happy with this regime…you get rid of a young player like Barron, who still can be productive…but you hold on to a garbage player like Bowers???!!!! Makes no sense!!!!!
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