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Posted by: @firebowles2023

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just didn't have the players.

Yet you quote games with Godwin and Evans out and playing with practice squad players.

You know who wasn’t out?

 

 
Posted : Jun. 15, 2025 6:56 pm
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I'd like you, or anyone else,  to comment on these without mentioning the defense

Would be happy to, once you FINALLY answer my question about where Tucker ranks in the NFL regarding rushing EPA among RB’s with at least 51 carries. 

Should be a simple question for someone who claimed to be an NFL GM. 

It’s almost as if…

 
Posted : Jun. 15, 2025 7:11 pm
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I'd like you, or anyone else,  to comment on these without mentioning the defense

Would be happy to, once you FINALLY answer my question about where Tucker ranks in the NFL regarding rushing EPA among RB’s with at least 51 carries. 

Should be a simple question for someone who claimed to be an NFL GM. 

It’s almost as if…

I didn’t answer it because it’s a dumb question. Tucker only had 50 carries so he doesn’t qualify. 

If he got a 51st carry in the playoffs we would have been going to Philly. Duval had to Duval though. 

 

 
Posted : Jun. 15, 2025 7:41 pm
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I didn’t answer it because it’s a dumb question. Tucker only had 50 carries so he doesn’t qualify. 

No, you didn't answer it because you're completely full of shit. 

There were EIGHTY EIGHT more players (88) that had more carries than Sean Tucker. 

But, you had to add some type of filter (a particular range of minimum carries), otherwise, he wouldn't have been #1. 

You cherry-picked the shit out of this stat and just OPENLY ADMITTED it. 

Fucking clown...

 

 
Posted : Jun. 15, 2025 8:27 pm
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vs 49ers- 1st and goal down 3 inside a minute. 2 White runs for 0 yards. 

Most people think of the 2021 offense as spectacular (as it should have been with that lineup).  I think the 2024 offense is better in the RZ (% and TDs) in part because it had a viable running game (as compared to 2021) BUT that one is classic JC, for so many reasons. 

Here a a few:

1. playing with no receivers

2. on the drive you reference, WHITE makes several BIG plays including a 4th and 7 PASS completion, a 6 yard run and  a 19 yard completion to get us into FG range (those pass completions have to sting given your outsized love for "Emmitt Smith")

3. White then runs for 3

white then runs for -3  . . . you combine these I guess, even though the 3 yard run, down 3 in FG range makes the run on 2nd and 5 more likely . . especially with no WRs (the next pass is to Jarrett?

4. the DEFENSE gives up the game losing FG (which is why, as usual, you had to narrow your post by saying "dont mention the defense" lol)

One reason the defense gives up a drive for a FG? Two of the passes are defended by Funderberk

 

I don't mind runs there. But they can't be with White. They can't .

 

 

 

Well, couple potential problems there

 

White is the reason they are down there to start with.  Definitely Could've been Irving too. I get that, but White is making plays all the way down, including the 3 yard run.  You grouped that run and the next together to form a ZERO (lol).  Thats always your giveaway, its the code to your deception.  In this case, you group those together BECAUSE:

"On second down, rookie center Graham Barton was spun like a top and White was dropped for a 3-yard loss."

 

Your argument is the coaching ("situational football), but sometimes it's just the failed EXECUTION.

 

 

Rachaad White apologists struggling with 3-3 = 0

 

 

JC5100 struggling to maintain his silly, one note trolling 

 

 
Posted : Jun. 15, 2025 9:02 pm
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just didn't have the players.

Yet you quote games with Godwin and Evans out and playing with practice squad players.

You know who wasn’t out?

 

The guy who scored a TD, and had a clutch 4th down reception to set up the game tying fg? Also added 70 yards.

 

 
Posted : Jun. 15, 2025 9:16 pm
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Tucker will have an increased role in Grizz's offense.  All indications are we will be running the ball more, particularly late in games.  Anyone who doesn't value Sean Tucker and what he means to this offense needs to learn the game.  There's a reason Liam is somewhere else.  He just didn't get it...

 
Posted : Jun. 17, 2025 1:32 pm
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Tucker will have an increased role in Grizz's offense.  All indications are we will be running the ball more, particularly late in games.  Anyone who doesn't value Sean Tucker and what he means to this offense needs to learn the game.  There's a reason Liam is somewhere else.  He just didn't get it...

Fun straw man... Nobody "doesn't value" Tucker 

 

 
Posted : Jun. 17, 2025 1:37 pm
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Posted by: @firebowles2023

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Tucker will have an increased role in Grizz's offense.  All indications are we will be running the ball more, particularly late in games.  Anyone who doesn't value Sean Tucker and what he means to this offense needs to learn the game.  There's a reason Liam is somewhere else.  He just didn't get it...

Fun straw man... Nobody "doesn't value" Tucker 

 

 

Yeah its really the opposite of that. I think it was only DH and Biggs who saw White as the surefire RB1 before last season and only JC5100 who somewhere along the line started claiming that Tucker was the next "Emmitt Smith." 

Everyone else is basically in between, right?  Tucker did a great job last season as primarily a late game back, but I think  most hope he's more than that this season and going forward. Hopefully he can handle the pass pro and receptions to be a complete back, in the eyes of the coaches who decide when players get on.

 

 
Posted : Jun. 17, 2025 2:09 pm
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Posted by: @theknees

Tucker will have an increased role in Grizz's offense.  All indications are we will be running the ball more, particularly late in games.  Anyone who doesn't value Sean Tucker and what he means to this offense needs to learn the game.  There's a reason Liam is somewhere else.  He just didn't get it...

ok now you are just saying outlandish shit for attention

the Bucs organization was about to make Liam the highest paid coordinator in NFL history and were butt hurt when he spurned them for a head coaching gig.  You comment makes it sound like he's somewhere else because we didnt want the guy that had us as a top 5 offense. 

Tucker is clearly third on this depth chart and will get limited snaps once again this season sans an injury to White or Irving.  Doesn't mean Tucker didn't have a great game against the Saints or isn't a good depth piece...but he's burred on the depth chart for a reason

 

 
Posted : Jun. 20, 2025 8:21 am
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Posted by: @theknees

Tucker will have an increased role in Grizz's offense.  All indications are we will be running the ball more, particularly late in games.  Anyone who doesn't value Sean Tucker and what he means to this offense needs to learn the game.  There's a reason Liam is somewhere else.  He just didn't get it...

ok now you are just saying outlandish shit for attention

the Bucs organization was about to make Liam the highest paid coordinator in NFL history and were butt hurt when he spurned them for a head coaching gig.  You comment makes it sound like he's somewhere else because we didnt want the guy that had us as a top 5 offense. 

Tucker is clearly third on this depth chart and will get limited snaps once again this season sans an injury to White or Irving.  Doesn't mean Tucker didn't have a great game against the Saints or isn't a good depth piece...but he's burred on the depth chart for a reason

 

So you don't think there will be any changes based on a change in the OC and a RB with a second year in this offense?  The line about Liam was a joke.  Sorry you don't have a sense of humor when it comes to the Bucs. 

 

Tucker will certainly play a bigger role in Grizz's offense.   I know this board only likes to discuss what has happened.  Speculation appears to be a no no.  But I see Tucker helping us close out games with the rest of our backfield.  Our average margin of victory was 5th in the league last season.  It's odd that we didn't have more wins than we did.  Healthy D and a better running game should change that in 2025.

 

 
Posted : Jun. 20, 2025 11:13 am
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The line about Liam was a joke.  Sorry you don't have a sense of humor when it comes to the Bucs. 

 

Tucker will certainly play a bigger role in Grizz's offense. 

Lol ok

 
Posted : Jun. 20, 2025 1:17 pm
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Posted by: @theknees

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Tucker will have an increased role in Grizz's offense.  All indications are we will be running the ball more, particularly late in games.  Anyone who doesn't value Sean Tucker and what he means to this offense needs to learn the game.  There's a reason Liam is somewhere else.  He just didn't get it...

ok now you are just saying outlandish shit for attention

the Bucs organization was about to make Liam the highest paid coordinator in NFL history and were butt hurt when he spurned them for a head coaching gig.  You comment makes it sound like he's somewhere else because we didnt want the guy that had us as a top 5 offense. 

Tucker is clearly third on this depth chart and will get limited snaps once again this season sans an injury to White or Irving.  Doesn't mean Tucker didn't have a great game against the Saints or isn't a good depth piece...but he's burred on the depth chart for a reason

 

So you don't think there will be any changes based on a change in the OC and a RB with a second year in this offense?  The line about Liam was a joke.  Sorry you don't have a sense of humor when it comes to the Bucs. 

 

Tucker will certainly play a bigger role in Grizz's offense.   I know this board only likes to discuss what has happened.  Speculation appears to be a no no.  But I see Tucker helping us close out games with the rest of our backfield.  Our average margin of victory was 5th in the league last season.  It's odd that we didn't have more wins than we did.  Healthy D and a better running game should change that in 2025.

 

hard to tell what is a joke or not.  You said in another thread that McMillan would be top 2 in receptions

but in any event...define bigger role for Tucker.  what does that mean?

We can agree he will clearly get the third most snaps of the 3 running backs, barring season ending injuries, right?

in 2023, he had 15 attempts for 23 yards

in 2024, he had 50 attempts for 308 yards

if you take out the Saints game 14 attempts for 136 yards, which we can agree was an anomaly, he'd have 36 attempts for 172 yards

so does he have more than 50 rushing attempts and beats last year's yardage total?

thats another nice "bet".  I am saying Tucker won't top last year's numbers

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
Posted : Jun. 20, 2025 4:49 pm
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Posted by: @badabingbucs

Posted by: @theknees

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Posted by: @theknees

Tucker will have an increased role in Grizz's offense.  All indications are we will be running the ball more, particularly late in games.  Anyone who doesn't value Sean Tucker and what he means to this offense needs to learn the game.  There's a reason Liam is somewhere else.  He just didn't get it...

ok now you are just saying outlandish shit for attention

the Bucs organization was about to make Liam the highest paid coordinator in NFL history and were butt hurt when he spurned them for a head coaching gig.  You comment makes it sound like he's somewhere else because we didnt want the guy that had us as a top 5 offense. 

Tucker is clearly third on this depth chart and will get limited snaps once again this season sans an injury to White or Irving.  Doesn't mean Tucker didn't have a great game against the Saints or isn't a good depth piece...but he's burred on the depth chart for a reason

 

So you don't think there will be any changes based on a change in the OC and a RB with a second year in this offense?  The line about Liam was a joke.  Sorry you don't have a sense of humor when it comes to the Bucs. 

 

Tucker will certainly play a bigger role in Grizz's offense.   I know this board only likes to discuss what has happened.  Speculation appears to be a no no.  But I see Tucker helping us close out games with the rest of our backfield.  Our average margin of victory was 5th in the league last season.  It's odd that we didn't have more wins than we did.  Healthy D and a better running game should change that in 2025.

 

hard to tell what is a joke or not.  You said in another thread that McMillan would be top 2 in receptions

but in any event...define bigger role for Tucker.  what does that mean?

We can agree he will clearly get the third most snaps of the 3 running backs, barring season ending injuries, right?

in 2023, he had 15 attempts for 23 yards

in 2024, he had 50 attempts for 308 yards

if you take out the Saints game 14 attempts for 136 yards, which we can agree was an anomaly, he'd have 36 attempts for 172 yards

so does he have more than 50 rushing attempts and beats last year's yardage total?

thats another nice "bet".  I am saying Tucker won't top last year's numbers

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Grizz likes Tucker. That’s well documented. Tucker will have a bigger role for us in 2025.

 

 
Posted : Jun. 20, 2025 10:20 pm
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Show me where it's well documented 

 
Posted : Jun. 22, 2025 11:27 am
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