While the football world awaits Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariota’s decision on declaring for the 2015 NFL Draft,  the debate on who will be the better pro prospect rages on. From a Bucs fan perspective it appears Mariota would be the preferred choice, but from a number of national writers and draft services it appears Winston has a slight edge.

NFL.com analyst Bucky Brooks graded Winston higher than Mariota recently. In his breakdown Brooks wrote, Winston remains the most pro-ready passer in college football. He is an exceptional pocket passer with big-time talent and valuable experience in a pro system. Winston plays the game in a style that translates easily to the next level; coaches can project how he will play in their system and quickly craft plans to get him on the field quickly as a pro. Although his character issues will raise red flags in most meeting rooms, there is no doubt in my mind that he is the better prospect right now.”

Former PewterReport.com editor Charlie Campbell now with Walterfootball.com also has Winston rated as the top quarterback in the draft saying, “As a prospect from a pure football perspective and ignoring the off-the-field issues, Winston is elite and in Andrew Luck’s ballpark as a quarterback prospect. Winston is a potential franchise quarterback who can lead his team to championships. Numerous sources from multiple teams agree that Winston is just a little bit behind Luck, but is a better prospect than Cam Newton, Sam Bradford or Matthew Stafford were when they came out and went No. 1 overall. The off-the-field issues are the things that could derail Winston from reaching his potential. However, one can be sure that some team is going to look past the off-the-field issues and take Winston early in the 2015 NFL Draft.”

Campbell was also very complimentary of Mariota, and said the team that ends up with Mariota is getting a special athlete. Campbell continued by saying, WalterFootball.com knows some general managers who are skeptical of Mariota as a passer and his developing into a passer who can function out of the pocket. However, even those skeptics say that Mariota is tremendous off the field and love his humility. Across the league, some team officials who aren’t completely sold on Mariota feel he is worth developing and could turn into a great player. They say that Mariota has great upside. Mariota will be drafted early in the first round, and he is a worthy pick to become a potential special quarterback. However Mariota needs development, so it may not benefit him to start immediately.”

Rob Rang who writes for CBSSports.com said Mariota isn’t as good as his numbers suggested from the Rose Bowl and Winston isn’t as bad.

Other than a few overthrows early (including an uncharacteristic interception), Mariota was brilliant, accounting for exactly 400 yards of total offense and three touchdowns, including completing 26 of 36 passes for 338 yards. Of course, Mariota shouldn’t be faulted for the fact that his production is inflated by Oregon’s scheme. When plays broke down, for example, he showed off the combination of mobility, poise and vision that are critical for success in the NFL. His success in this attack, however, does make his projection to a more traditional NFL offense more difficult. 

“Winston, on the other hand, consistently attempted (and made) NFL throws, showing terrific anticipation, ball placement and velocity on in- and out-breaking routes, alike. Just as important, he also showed leadership in consoling freshman running back Dalvin Cook (who lost two fumbles) and by attempting to rally his teammates as the game slid out of control. Given that this was the first game Winston lost at the collegiate level, scouts were curious to see how he would handle the disappointment. As it turns out, he handled it better than most of his teammates, at least shaking hands and congratulating Oregon players (including Mariota) after the game, rather than running off the field without the traditional postgame handshake as most of the Seminoles did.

Ultimately it doesn’t matter what Brooks, Campbell, or Rang think, as it the decision will come down to who general manager Jason Licht and head coach Lovie Smith feel is the best choice to lead their franchise moving forward. And other options remain on the table such as trading the pick to another team (the media in Philadelphia feel Chip Kelly could make a push for the pick and Mariota). And of course both players have yet to declare for the draft and have until January 15 to make their decisions known to the NFL.

 

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About the Author: Mark Cook

Mark Cook currently is the director of editorial content and Bucs beat writer and has written for PewterReport.com since 2011. Cook has followed the Buccaneers since 1977 when he first began watching football with his Dad and is fond of the 1979 Bucs team that came within 10 points of going to a Super Bowl. His favorite Bucs game is still the 1979 divisional playoff win 24-17 over the Eagles. In his spare time Cook enjoys playing guitar, fishing, the beach and family time.Cook is a native of Pinecrest in Eastern Hillsborough County and has written for numerous publications including the Tampa Tribune, In the Field and Ya'll Magazine. Cook can be reached at mark@pewterreport.com
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devasher
devasher
6 years ago

Winston is the easier guy to translate to pro offenses and success based on his natural ability and playing style.

Mariota is a safer off-the-field choice but is going to take some tweaking and scheme protection in order to survive and thrive in the NFL. He has the work ethic and natural tools and he’s going to have to use all of it in order to become a great NFL QB.

westsidekidx
westsidekidx
Reply to  devasher
6 years ago

yes it would be easier for mannings,luck,russel wilson but not at all for a kid with winstons immature mentality/ hes just not going to translate well because of that..he has talent and potential but thats all that is if he cant grow up

jongruden
jongruden
6 years ago

Mark Cook is a huge Fla St Fan, how do I know this? Its obvious in this Winston Propaganda of an article, finding 3 writers who say Winston is a better pro talent than Mariota. Wait till February when the combine starts and guys like Charles Davis, Mike Mayock, Charlie Casserly etc weigh in on this debate esp if Mariota runs the 40 yd dash cause if he does he will run in the 4.4-4.5 range and with his size and speed and heisman and national championship pedigree, not to mention his high football iq and articulate speaking will blow… Read more »

jongruden
jongruden
Reply to  jongruden
6 years ago

analysts

cgmaster27
cgmaster27
Reply to  jongruden
6 years ago

I live your argument for a qb based on how good they speak and how fast they run. Thank gosh you’re not our gm. How did speed work out for Michael Vick? How about rg3? Speed means nothing in the nfl for a qb. As for his high football iq, mariotta has nothing close to the football ow of Winston just based on playbook alone. Mariotta never checks at the line without looking at his coach, doesn’t have to dissect a defense while dropping back from under center, and Oregon runs a much simpler playbook than fsu. These are facts,… Read more »

jongruden
jongruden
Reply to  cgmaster27
6 years ago

cgmaster27- Get a clue, Mariota will be rated higher than Winston by 90% of nfl scouts and gm’s around the league. Winston this yr threw 17 int’s in 3 yrs Mariota has 12 int’s. Winston looked like a fumbling idiot in the game vs Oregon. Winston has countless off the field issues, Winston yells at at his head coach and was told to calm down or be replaced in the line up by Fisher. He is a immature knuckelhead and to say that Mariota has an easier playbook is hilarious like you know his playbook, lol I was talking about… Read more »

seat26
seat26
Reply to  jongruden
6 years ago

I think your right. Unless someone offers the farm to the Bucs I cannot see them taking anyone else but Mariota. If another team gives them two #1’s and 2 2nds, maybe. But this guy could be our QB for the next 10 yrs or so. Imagine him and Evans growing up together on this team. It could be amazing.

cgmaster27
cgmaster27
Reply to  jongruden
6 years ago

You get a clue Jon, Winston will be rated higher by just about all scouts. The fact that you haven’t even heard of rob rang shows you know nothing of scouting. But I’ll take your couch scoutin over the professionals any day. Get used to seeing Winston in a bucs uniform. Or you can just jump ship, I won’t miss you. But don’t worry mariotta speaks so well, that’ll get him real far in the nfl.

cgmaster27
cgmaster27
Reply to  cgmaster27
6 years ago

And im not attacking you Jon, if you think I am get thicker skin. im passionate about the bucs and don’t feel like waiting 4 more years for a gimmick qb to get an nfl system.

jongruden
jongruden
Reply to  cgmaster27
6 years ago

YOu didn’t answer my question ctgmaster are you a Noles Fan? your either going to answer yes and join the pack of loyal Noles Fans who will supoort thier guy till the end, or denounce your loyalty to the Noles to show subjectivity in wanting Winston

wnb0395
wnb0395
Reply to  cgmaster27
6 years ago

cgmaster27, ESPN’s Scouts Inc already has rankings of the top 32 draft prospects. Guess whos #2 Mariota. Guess whos not #1 Winston. Winston is graded out as the 6th ranked prospect at 93 and Mariota is the 2nd ranked prospect at 95.
Check it out for yourself. http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft

devasher
devasher
Reply to  jongruden
6 years ago

Oh look, you took one statistic to make the case for a prospect being better than another. Then you took one play to say that the prospect isn’t good. You’re quote the scout Jon.

jongruden
jongruden
Reply to  cgmaster27
6 years ago

BTW CGmaster27- I live in AZ and a die hard Arizona State Fan I hate the Ducks, but I bet the your a hypocrite in your accusation and would bet your a die hard FSU Fan am I right so now who is being bias?

funkdoc19
funkdoc19
Reply to  jongruden
6 years ago

Jongruden, That’s a pretty biased view you wrote there regarding winston. Country ghetto, he’s from alabama, what do you expect? Also he’s 20 yrs old, give him time to mature. Charlie Campbell is a well respected journalist. On a pure talent level in accordance to what the bucs need, winston offers the best chance of us winning immediately, being that he plays in a pro system. MM may carry himself well, which has tremendous upside for a community and franchise, but in the immediate future he’s not going to help lovie. remember, coaches come and go more readily than players… Read more »

jongruden
jongruden
Reply to  funkdoc19
6 years ago

funkdoc- Thx for your opinion and for not attacking me like “cgmaster” succombed to, but you said ” if you put aside off field concerns” first off they will never disregard off the field concerns, esp when you are a face of the franchise and they have tried ridding themselves of problem children in the past. I can see the headlines now “Winston was arrested last night in Ybor City after stealing lobster from a restaurant and yelling obscenities at fellow patrons at restaurant, then then he proceeded to take out his bb gun and started shooting out the windows”… Read more »

jongruden
jongruden
Reply to  Mark Cook
6 years ago

Actually Mark, You are wrong again, Bucky said “Winston was better”, Campbell said “he is the best qb in the draft” and the third said ” Winston played better in Rose Bowl and Mariota wasn’t as good as his numbers suggested”. So how can you say this isn’t a pro Winston article?

EastEndBoy
EastEndBoy
6 years ago

First, whichever QB we take (and we had better take one of these guys) will become my instant new favorite player. Second, I hope we take Mariota. Third, while Winston may make “tough” throws and “NFL” throws (most of which don’t get intercepted), those become “forced” throws in the NFL with even more INTs (and with a ratio of .7 picks for every TD in college, I would not be happy to see that blossom into 1 for 1). Fourth, Winston may be a leader in the lockeroom of sorts, but when chooses to chew out his coach on the… Read more »

jongruden
jongruden
6 years ago

Who is Rob Rang? never heard of him, how about more respected writers around the league like Don Banks, Peter King?

Iabucfan
Iabucfan
6 years ago

I always respected Charlie Campbells’ analyst and was sad when he left PR. It looks like a team can win with either one of these quarterbacks. I am very concerned about Winston’s off the field behavior. Some of that stuff means a suspension in the NFL. What good is he to the team if he’s not on the field?

pinkstob
pinkstob
6 years ago

The problem with this debate is the debating is all being done by football analysts. Football is not a problem for any of these guys. How about getting some feedback from people who handle the business side of football. First of all (and should be last of all because nothing else really matters), the Glazers are not going to use the top overall pick on a player who would be the face of the franchise that has questionable off the field behavior. They booted or traded players that had off the field issues that weren’t even the face of the… Read more »

WeAretheChamps2002
WeAretheChamps2002
Reply to  pinkstob
6 years ago

You articulated the same concerns and thoughts I have. What rings especially true is that “this debate is the debating is all being done by football analysts. Football is not a problem for any of these guys.” Because their jobs aren’t on the line. They’re free to speculate and project as they please. GM and coaching jobs are on the line with such a critical decision such as this. By looking at this franchise’s history, I agree that they have started to use character as the determining factor over talent. I remember they took issue with a lack of accountability… Read more »

scubog
scubog
Reply to  pinkstob
6 years ago

That is exactly what I think Pinkstob. Regardless of Winston’s immaturity issues being relatively minor in nature; the perception of the young ‘Nole nationally (especially in Arizona)is much worse than reality. And for that reason, unless #55 does a great sell job, I think the Bucs will draft Mariota and hope he can become an NFL style QB over time.

jongruden
jongruden
Reply to  scubog
6 years ago

Scubog- If you weren’t a die hard “Noles” Fan you wouldn’t be making excuses for him plain and simple

scubog
scubog
Reply to  jongruden
6 years ago

News Flash: I’m not any more a ‘Noles fan than any other college. I watch, but really don’t have any emotional ties to any school since the University of Tampa (my alma mater) dropped football in 1975. And where did I say anything except state the perception people have (me included) is a source of concern for the Bucs possibly selecting him? You need to take a reading comprehension class.

tjhuth
tjhuth
Reply to  scubog
6 years ago

“relatively minor” issues? A relatively minor issue is spray painting on a wallo, joy riding with your butt hanging out the window, or getting caught smoking the wacky weed. Theft, possible multiple rapes, allegations of possible point shaving ARE NOT MINOR. They show a total lack of morals. Give this kid 22 million and he will self-destruct.

I can’t wait until we are three years down the road from this draft. I wonder which side of the debate will prove to be right (maybe both, maybe neither).

pinkstob
pinkstob
6 years ago

Also, FSU is my favorite college team so I have no bias against Winston but I also believe his “leadership” skills will not translate well to the NFL. The first part of being a leader is walking the walk, which he doesn’t. Leaders don’t behave the way he does off the field and grown men in the NFL will be more sensitive to that. The second part is the techniques he uses on the sidelines for verbally trying to inspire his teammates works better coming from a LB, not a QB. He has a lot of energy coming from him… Read more »

jaybuc88
jaybuc88
6 years ago

Winston is a statue also, has awful footwork…to say he is “pro” ready is a joke…dude will get killed unless he changes out of his concrete shoes

Buctebow
Buctebow
6 years ago

and the Bucs trade first round picks with the Jets….there may be too much at risk for a conservative minded coach to make a #1 pick, when faced with these two particular choices. After trading down, if they snagged one of these two, then it would be safer to do.

Horse
Horse
6 years ago

Pinkstob; well said. No way I am picking Winston at No. 1 spot. If we must chose a QB at that spot then I’d go with Mariota because no matter what he will be a decent to good QB. Winston will be a great QB or a bust. I’m not willing to take that chance. I’m back to my original thought back months ago: trade down as we have many needs. We’re no where near playoff contention so picking a QB next season may be the wiser move. Go Bucs!

Buctebow
Buctebow
6 years ago

Yeah, I don’t think Lovie is looking for a Manning, or Brady, I think he will be satisfied with a steady eddy hard working Flacco type. You don’t need the best QB in the league to win an SB, just a good one that manages the offense, gets some points and doesn’t turn the ball over much…here comes Mariota., bye bye Winston, who likely will try to become a baseball player anyway.

stlbucsfan
stlbucsfan
6 years ago

The first order of business needs to be finding who will be running our offense. Then based off the scheme we can see who fits best. Winston is clearly the more pro ready player unless we are committed to running a spread scheme and judging by the lack of speed on the offense I think that would be a disaster. Winston reminds me of Big Ben, from his ability to extend plays with his legs while beating you with his arms to the off the field issues. Winston is a winner, not saying that Marriotta isnt but this team lacks… Read more »

surferdudes
surferdudes
6 years ago

The Glazers aren’t idiots, but they would be if they leave this decision to L, and L. If you owned the team, wouldn’t you want the final say as to what to do with the first pick? Ownership should have that perk. It’ll be Mariota, it’s just a smart business decision, and football is a business. Trading the pick won’t be an option for the Glazers either. They’ll talk to Tony, who already has talked to Lovie about how special a Q.B. Marc is and it’s over. Turn in the card already. I’m saying it now. Wait till the combine,… Read more »

KINDERRT
KINDERRT
6 years ago

I have given up on this debate until we see who declares. Could be there will be no choice as it’s possible both stay in school. That IMO is the way things always turns out for the Bucs.

Buc-Up
Buc-Up
6 years ago

I’m shocked and disappointed that the Bucks turned down the offer to coach in the Senior Bowl. HUGE MISTAKE!

Buc-Up
Buc-Up
Reply to  Buc-Up
6 years ago

Stupid spell check changed it from Bucs and I didn’t catch it before I posted from my smartphone.

seat26
seat26
6 years ago

Did Rob Rang actually watch the game ? Because his comments about Winston’s behavior at the game seem to be confused from another game I am guessing. Winston looked very upset throughout most of the game and the coach actually had to take him aside and counsel him and his words were heard on TV. He was going to bench him. The Stereotypes of both players came true. Mariotta was masterful and his calm demeanor could not be more obvious. Winston on the other hand looked like he a little too immature for the next level. He made critical mistakes… Read more »

cbrady2k
cbrady2k
6 years ago

If you watched the Rose Bowl and watched the NFL for any length of time it was clear who the better NFL pro style QB was. Winston did not have a bad game and he made some great passes. Mariota meanwhile had perhaps 2 NFL throws the entire game and a lot of misfires early. With that said Mariota would be the more interesting and exciting pick – IF the Bucs were committed to running an offense built around his abilities. Personally I was ready to get season tickets again for the first time since the Dungy era when they… Read more »

e
e
6 years ago

Just a few thoughts: How many running QBs end up having success in the NFL? Name a QB that came from a spread offense in college and successfully converted to the NFL game? What is the QB makeup of this year’s mostly same old playoff teams… Pocket passers or hybrids? e

pinkstob
pinkstob
Reply to  e
6 years ago

To answer your first question, not many. But my retort would be how many pocket passers end up having success in the NFL? The answer is the same…not many. All the guys that have done it are over 30, which means not a single pocket pure pocket passer over the last 7 or 8 years have become successful NFL QB’s. Luck runs, Rodgers runs, Wilson runs, etc. To answer your second question: Cam Newton and Colin Kaepernick. Both came from a spread offense and both have won a playoff game which is considered a successful conversion to the NFL game.… Read more »

cgmaster27
cgmaster27
Reply to  pinkstob
6 years ago

The thing is Pinkstob, and I’m not attacking you. Do Lovie and licht really want to wait half a year? I don’t its a win now league and I’m not saying Winston will do that but thisbteam isn’t even remotely built like a team that mariottas could be successful on. As for the running qbs, Rogers and luck can run but are not running qbs. Both also come from pro offenses in college, with Rogers having the ability to sit for four or 5 years behind farve. We don’t have that kind of time.

EastEndBoy
EastEndBoy
Reply to  cgmaster27
6 years ago

@pinkstob…you took the words right out of mouth…nicely analyzed. @cgmaster27…Mariota can run but is not a running QB either (Oregon is not Georgie Tech or something); the kid threw for more yards than almost anyone in college, and as I watched most of Oregon’s games this year, he throws from the pocket, he throws on the run, he throws deep, he throws short, he throws bullet passes (like the first TD in the Rose Bowl) and he throws touch passes (like the 2nd TD in the Rose Bowl)…and, I don’t think Lovie is waiting more than a game or two… Read more »

bucism1
bucism1
6 years ago

if not fully sold on mariota and building a complete system that he thrives in, forget him and trade the pic away for a boat load…he is no dan marino…winston is a bust in the works…go mariota and buld the system he will succeed in or trade the pic to philly and get nick f and some pics…lovie might wanna try to bring cutler in – who knows…adam from ny

bucism1
bucism1
6 years ago

also sounds slightly psychotic – but bring freeman back into camo if his well hidden drug issues are in his past…he has a lot of career possibly still ahead of him…schiano is gone…maybe lovie can show him some love…he has had success at times…and proved to be clutch down the stretch of games when not fiending for his next hit of meth…adam from ny

scubog
scubog
6 years ago

Looks like the same things being said about the two QB prospects who may be available in the 2015 Draft. I’ve only seen Mariota in the recent Rose Bowl and frankly didn’t see enough to make a determination if he can become an NFL QB. Looking forward to the Championship game. Seen Winston many times and anyone can easily see the type of throws the great NFL QB’s make and the Big Ben type pocket presence. There are two big “What if” questions that need to be answered when making the choice if they both enter the Draft. 1.) What… Read more »

EastEndBoy
EastEndBoy
Reply to  scubog
6 years ago

@scubog…can you elaborate on your “too sensitive” concern? He is undeniably the leader of the Ducks according to his teammates. He is unflappable (see the Stanford game), and plays big in big games (see the Rose Bowl). He is fantastically accurate in both the short and long game (see his WRs YAC, in addition to his completion %, and his TD:INT ratio). He runs the ball and challenges defenders when he needs the extra yard (but is smart enough to slide when he doesn’t need that yard). I really struggle to understand this concern people are raising about his transferability… Read more »

scubog
scubog
Reply to  EastEndBoy
6 years ago

I’ve only seen him in the Rose Bowl game and need to see more. Just a concern that he may go into a funk when things go bad. (See Cam Newton) His sideline demeanor seemed a little emotionless to me. That observation along with some of the things I’ve read is what I was referencing. I do think the Bucs will draft Mariota which means his initial experience losing in the NFL might not be as good as what he’s experienced winning in Oregon. How he reacts will be important.

mjmoody
mjmoody
Reply to  macabee
6 years ago

Thanks macabee, that article pretty much addressed my concerns. I have zero faith in Lovie’s ability to develop on the offensive side of the football. I’m quietly watching our OC search with fear & scrutiny. I am very familiar with Lovie’s career in Chicago, his poor record vs Green Bay, and his extremely poor game-planning in his Super Bowl loss. Did I mention his stubbornness & unyielding adherence to outdated methods? In the end, the pick is just a part of the equation. We must have the ability to develop the talent we select.

a-bomb
a-bomb
6 years ago

Everyone agrees that Mariotta is a project. Why would Lovie/Licht draft Mariotta? If they do so they will likely be unemployed this time next year when we again have the first pick in the draft. Reaching for a quarterback is what dumb/desperate organizations do.

EastEndBoy
EastEndBoy
Reply to  a-bomb
6 years ago

I don’t agree that Mariota is a project…and I certainly don’t agree that he is a reach.

pinkstob
pinkstob
6 years ago

Let’s be clear, very few people are calling Mariotta a project. Projects are guys like J. Russell who are drafted just on physical skillset and very little production. Just because Winston is ready to step into a “pro-style” offense (no one can even agree what that is) from Week 1 does not by default make Mariota a project. Mariota has the best attempts vs. INT ratio in NCAA history. It’s just a matter of what offense you place him in Week 1. If you put Winston in the offense Seattle or Carolina runs then Winston would be considered a “project”… Read more »

kram0789
kram0789
6 years ago

The first thing the Bucs have to do is hire an OC. Trestman would be a good fit for either and given his success with McCown, we could give Mariota time to develop. I have consistently said I think Winston grades better as a football player. What troubles me about Winston is will he be able to stay out of jail?

jrwilson85
jrwilson85
6 years ago

The only NFL GM that I knew more about football than was Mark Dominik. I really liked Winston a lot as a true freshman. He was a phenom. Then came the allegation of sexual assault. Winston stole the crab legs from publix, got up on the table and shouted sexual obscenities (after the sexual assault charges no less) and was shooting a BB gun on campus. These things show bad judgment at best and surely show a bad moral compass at least. The only thing is the Bucs can’t afford a Jamarcus Russell faux pas. I think the Raider’s free… Read more »

buclover1988
buclover1988
6 years ago

Lol it’s just funny how many of you are talking like mariota has no talent and wouldn’t be able to learn an nfl system. I mean are you all for real??? Many of you assume he can’t be this or that. Mariota is a very cerebral individual and can learn and adapt. He’s got a solid arm strength and can definitely make plays with his legs. All you scouts out there need to look past your Florida state Seminole glasses, including you Mark Cook, and realize how special mariota is.

SOXX
SOXX
6 years ago

Now that we get Mariota I am so happy that we will win the Super Bowl again.

cremdonado
cremdonado
6 years ago

I was leaning toward Mariota before the Rose Bowl,attended the game and walked away more interested in Winston…The big knock on him is maturity- not his ability…I don’t remember too many guys at 20 who weren’t still a bit immature in some way or another-they mostly grow out of it…It is said he is a decent student in the classroom and the ability to excel at two sports shows he has drive and understands discipline. Doesnt he deserve a better look? We have been given a very one sided view of this kid by media sources which is pretty screwed… Read more »

georgehicks
georgehicks
6 years ago

Well Guys I have seen alot of QB’s coming thru bucs place since Tampa came into the league. But I WOULD TRADE DOWN WITH EXAMPLE THE NY JETS. I WOULD EXPECT THIS MOVE DOWN TAMPA SHOULD DEMAND AT LEASE THEIR NO#1 & NO#2 WITH A NO#4 OR A NO#5 WITH JETS NO#2 PICK NEXT YEAR. i WOULD SELECT QB BRETT HUNDLEY AT NO#6 THEN IN RD 2 I WOULD SELECT BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE WITH THOSE TWO 2ND ROUND PICKS. WE WOULD GET A GOOD QB, A OFFENSE AND DEFENSIVE PLAYERS IN RD-2 AND SOMEONE THEY WAS NOT EXPECTING IN RD-3.… Read more »

jrwilson85
jrwilson85
6 years ago

crendonado if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck…..it’s a duck !! No reference to Mariota’s Ducks of course. I’m speaking of Winston. Sexual assault is a serious problem nationwide on college campuses. I find it hard to believe this girl pressed these charges against Winston out of a clear blue sky. She has even gone as far as to sue FSU over the incident. I think the kid did it and without dna, it’s “He said-She said”. Wherever Winston goes, police departments are going to watch him like a hawk. Immaturity is one thing and criminal… Read more »

bucism1
bucism1
6 years ago

go mariota or trade the pic away…give glennon a full year including 1st team reps in camp…and beef up that ol for him so he can have a moment back there…or transition from glennon to mariota…no winston for this team…and let mccown go…if you give winston “hit the lotto” money, watch a mofo go down the tubes in tampa and get all cheeky at the strip clubs etc, every night…the dude is a foo…go mariota or trade the darn pic…if this plugged glennon into say the ravens offense, he would be ok…glennon is not give a fair shake here…and he… Read more »

bucism1
bucism1
6 years ago

given*

bucism1
bucism1
6 years ago

also like i mentioned before….unless freebird was a complete junky, get him in camp…he had some decent times under raheem…if the relationship with shianno ruined him so be it…or if drugs ruined him so be it…get that extra body back into camp if he’s available…why not – if he revitalized his career it would be a long shot. but he has some tools and the new oc might re-energize the foo…if he’s a junky he will fizzle out in camp…bring the punk in for the hell of it…i know they won’t, but maybe lovie can reach the kid…the kid who… Read more »