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yada yada, jbear would probably go to jail for going on a murder spree

I find that offensive. Compared to you I’m practically a pacifist and wouldn’t murder or assault anyone unless I felt my life or the life of a family member was in danger. That’s what happens to you when you believe in individual liberty. When you believe in socialism you worship violence because you can’t have socialism without violence…. it’s all about conformity and that is achieved through force.