Buc Bauce

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One thing about Jameis, he is doing more with less…. You won’t find a worse WR group 2-8 as you will with the Bucs. He also doesn’t have an elite OL or even a good OL.. He also doesn’t have an Elite RB only an average stable of backs. If Jameis had around him what Big Ben has around him, the Bucs would have the best offense in the league (or at least top 3).

Ugh, this is a terrible argument. He has a top 5 WR at his disposal and a pretty average cast beyond that, but he was just that average. It’s not like he overcame those weaknesses and was a top 5 QB himself. He had average talent and provided average results. Most QBs would kill just to have one talent like Mike Evans on the team. He performed how he performed, and it’s not elite (yet). Hopefully he gets there, but saying he doesn’t have the talent around him to succeed is a cop-out because outside of maybe 2-3 rosters in the league everyone has the same problems. Rodgers offensive talent is a joke, yet he’s winning. Brady always gets it done with a stable of who’s that? type offensive cast. The one year he had a Mike Evans type talent he broke all the records. Making the team better with better offensive weapons is needed, but to justify Winston’s performance and try to frame it as ‘not his fault’ is nonsense. In the salary cap/free agency era you’re not likely to ever have a stacked team and if you do, you won’t have it for long, so he needs to step up and be a difference maker in his own right and not have to rely on superior talent to have success.

I think the toughest obstacle for Jameis to overcome this year was the fact that we had absolutely zero running game. That makes a YUUUGE difference, especially in Koetter’s offense.

Also, there were 3 games with Cherilus as the RT – both Saints games and the Cowboys game. Yes we won one of those (the 1st Saints game), but that was a major factor in those 2 losses.

Down the stretch, our run game was stopped with 7 defenders and our passing attack was largely subdued with an extra safety on Evans.

The tone of your post says to me that you blame our offensive woes mostly on Jameis, which I find so severely hypercritical, I have a hard time taking you seriously. You are expecting him to be Brady and Rogers in his second year?

Did Jameis play average in the first game against ATL, what about the KC game, what about the first half against SEA? There were other glimpses of Jameis’ brilliance as well even looking at last year. To say that Jameis is just average is very lazy and misguided. Now if you were to say that he is inconsistent, needs to control his emotions better and needs fix his footwork and accuracy, then we can have a conversation, but otherwise, your expectations for a 22 yo kid (who has almost singlehandedly turned a 2 win team into a 9 win team in 2 years) are asinine.

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