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.... If he continues to show improvement then why gamble on a supposed "elite" QB in the draft when we have so many other holes to fill?

Because if you have an average but improving QB, then you have to fill every other hole to compensate. If you have an elite QB, then that QB can cover up a lot of those holes.  An elite QB makes the O-line better, makes RB better and makes WR's better. They also help the defense by increasing Tampa's time of possession. Even if Glennon keeps improving like he has so far, do you really think he will be elite?

Again we have the fallacy of needing to have an Elite QB from the get go. If you do find your rookie  "elite" QB you still have to have a semblance of a team around him for him to succeed. If not, you possibly ruin your "elite" QB or declare him useless only to see him get picked up by a better talent equipped team and rip up the record books. This team has a history of mucking up at the Qb position. So, for the first time in ages we have a decent prospect that is showing promising signs and we immediately want to replace him.Is it because of who selected him, his draft status, his school or what? Greatness isn't restricted to the 1st round, sometimes the guys who get selected a bit lower down just need a perfect situation (See Brady and Wilson) or need to have the chance to develop. I just don't get the fan base sometimes, last time I looked this was still a team sport and it takes more than one person to make a successful team.

Les review some things:1) The team has a history of mucking up a LOT of positions. Does that means we should never draft them again either?  2) If you go with just an average QB, you need much more than "a semblance of a team around him for him to succeed".3) Teams don't ruin QB's, coaches do.  If you are afraid a coach, through bad decision making (like drafting and FA) will ruin your shiny new QB, then how can you turn around and say its safer to have a less talented QB under the same coach and expect better overall results? If the coach can't fix the OLine for Mariota or Cook or Winston, then how will he fix it for Glennon? Is one pick (whoever you take instead of the QB) going to fix all the holes?  OK so we take a LT (who turns ou to be HoF material) and shore up the left side of the line.  The center and RG are still horrible. The defense is still a sieve. ST still stink. The point is, 99% of your arguments against selecting an elite QB should also be applied to Glennon. It is a team sport and it does take more than one person to win it. But that is true if Glennon is the QB or if Mariota is.

1. We have a coach who's reputation is defense, he's getting lambasted for putting a craptastic product on the field. Do you think the Bucs first pick goes to qb? 2. We have a coach who still believes in ground and pound, his rb, Sims, will need help on the oline. If Lovie doesn't go dline with the first pick, I think oline will be the pick.

Will the coach use the players correctly is not the same as what player we fans think the team should draft.  Again, if the coach is screwing it up, then he shouldn't be the coach plain and simple. I believe the team should select a QB if they have a top 3 pick.  Will Lovie do it however is a separate thread.

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