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My opinion is it was an incomplete trade. Obviously not getting anything in return makes it bad for Tampa Bay now that it is over. But if they guy has stayed and the Bucs win a Super bowl then it becomes a good trade. The real deal will be how the players obtained with Revis' $16 million work out. If they don't pan out then it becomes a bad decision to release him.  I can't say there is anyone with the talent of Revis that the Bucs could have drafted last year. CERTAINLY not a CB (Milliner, Rhodes, Banks, Trufant). I can't say for sure, but is anyone from the 2013 draft class going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer like Revis will?The bad part to me was the fact he essentially was a one-year rental player that the Buccaneers spent 100's of hours rehabbing and protecting in the media (zone coverage questions daily). But if the Bucs went 8-8 last year and Dominik and Schiano were retained then no one would be saying it was a bad trade. To me how it turned out in the end was the bad part, but again I still say it wasn't good or bad, but incomplete because you never know how it may have turned out. It is almost like blaming Dominik or any GM for a first-round draft pick that blows a knee in camp. Is that a bad draft pick?Ultimately for the sake of the franchise it turned out to be a bad decision, but hard to say it was a bad trade.

Sorry but that really isn't true.There are a number of us that said the trade was bad the moment the details came out, the fact that it turned into a 1 year rental that didn't help the Bucs much in any way (oh no, we would have gone 3-13 without him) just makes it that much worse.Hell there were people saying before the trade that if we gave up anything near to what we ended up giving away it would be an awful trade.There is no good side to this trade.It's not an incomplete trade, we don't need to see what his replacements do because they have nothing to do with the trade, if we hadn't traded for Revis that money would be getting used in some way and would likely have gone to better use last year.What if Dom had actually been smart and done what many were begging for him to do with the Revis money? We'd have had 2 corners, Michael Bennett already locked up, whoever we took in that 1st round and wouldn't have needed to go looking for Verner & Johnson this year.

Better use last year? There was plenty of money left after signing Revis and it wasn't spent. Tampa Bay was not going to sign Grimes (who was also coming off an injury) and was not going to pay Smith $8 million a year. And you are assuming Dominik was the reason Bennett wasn't re-signed last year. And yes there were some saying it was a bad trade before it happened, but the majority of Bucs fans and media (locally and nationally) who applauded the trade at the time. 2013 was overall the worst draft class in at least 10 years according to every pundit, scout and front office. Ultimately part of the reason Dominik isn't here anymore was because the team failed to improve, and actually regressed record wise. His gamble that Revis would be a difference maker from 7-9 to 10-6 didn't pan out and not seeing the Freeman meltdown coming. but I respect your opinion, even if we don't agree on everything.

The problem Mark is the contract. While we had, and currently have, the cap space $16 million was, is, and will be unsustainable. If you look through the contracts for every other position in the NFl you don't anywhere close to the disparity between the top player(s) and the rest. Every single other position has a few elite players clustered at the top pay bracket - not one player  making 63% more than the next highest player. And coming off an ACL injury!?!?!?!?THAT is insane - and a lot of people on this board who were in favor of the Revis trade balked at that contract. And as I've said before - that cap space rapidly dwindles when you have to start re-signing players. Even if the Bucs kept Revis on the roster this year, next year they would have had to release/restructure the deal. I think that's a major reason why Revis was released now - one way or the other he wouldn't be on the team next year.And the most damning part Mark is that no team would take the contract. If Revis is as good as you suggest (he is) the fact that the Bucs couldn't even get a late-round pick for him is INSANE!  In summation:1) Why pay a player coming off ACL injury 12% of your cap and 63% more than the next highest paid CB?2) If they kept Revis, what would the Bucs do next year with McCoy, David, Barron, Martin (among others such as Clayborn, Bowers) all being FAs or in the last year of their deals?3) If the contract wasn't THAT bad, why wasn't it tradeable?

4) Even if you thought the contract was fantastic, why not wait a year and sign him as a free agent?  Why throw away the picks?

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