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The reason no one would give picks is because its essentially a ONE YEAR deal. Good for the team that Revis could be cut, but not worth giving up picks because the only way you keep him is to pay well over the market. The scenario you are describing is a team giving up a (high)4th or higher for paying Revis $14.5 million in 2014 and the $16 million in 2015 and so on. The Patriots only gave the guy $12 million FOR ONE YEAR  and gave up NO PICKS for the honor and privilege of paying the guy $12 million . ..  Talib got $12 million guaranteed (again, no picks). .  that tells you a little bit about the maket. . . .  nobody was giving up any picks up for Revis (or any of these guys) because they are all essentially on ONE YEAR deals

Vin, I admit I'm ignorant on many things cap-wise. Keep that in mind,but I just don't get these were "one year deals".  Sure, maybe, 2, 3, or even 4 million more than the market this season, but I don't believe for a minute that the contract called for Revis to be released.  I believe as SR stated, he was here to be a pro-bowl player for 3 or 4 years.  And it wasn't Mark D.'s job to write a contract that enabled Revis to be traded by a successive regime. 

To the first part in bold:  $4million more this season and ANY season Revis played for us. The contract did not call for Revis to be released (obviously),  but a release was the ONLY way to get out of the deal if the team wanted. As I explained before, and touch on below, there were scenarios where the Bucs UNDER DOMINIK might want to get out of the deal.To the second part in bold: It was Dominik's job to sign the best contract he could for the Bucs. In this instance, he signed one that tied the hands of HIS regime and any "successive regime" because the deal called for giving up premium picks for a guy that would be untradeable (i.e., to recover picks)  I highlighted this part of your quote - "he was here to be a pro-bowl player for 3 or 4 years" - because it illustrates the point. The contract was drafted based solely on the assumption that Revis would be a "pro-bowl player for 3 or 4 years." The contract was NOT drafted to account for anything less than Revis being a "pro-bowl player for 3 or 4 years".  Keeping in mind that WE GAVE UP PICKS (that is the key point) . . . if Revis did not perform then there was no way in this contract for the Bucs to recover anything.  Let's say, for example, that last year Revis played 100% healthy but even then he was only now an average CB.  In that scenario, the Bucs had NO WAY to recoup any of their investment because no team would trade for his contract and so the only thing the Bucs could do was cut him. Do you see the point?I am okay with saying Dom was aware of that risk and accepted it . . BUT . . . you cant say that and then not hold him accountable when the accepted risk blows up in the teams face. Te new GM and coach did not think REvis was worth the above market deal, particularly in the context of building a new team.  Their hands were completely tied by the contract that Dom signed.  Dom's hands would have bene completely tied too if he was still here and, say, he realized that Revis was a shell of himself (just an example).  Everyone's hands were tied in terms of getting anything back for Revis and that was because of the deal.Last thing, just another way to think of things.  Revis is a great player but he was injured and in a bad situation with the Jets.  In the scenario, the Bucs have at least some leverage and the NORMAL result would be that both the team AND the player get a contract that is less than ideal, each ends up getting something that is a little less than they would want. For example, Revis might typically get a little less than he is worth if healthy, but the contract would probably be incentive laden to account for that. Now look at this deal and ask yourself what di the Bucs get in return for paying Revis way OVER market(not even under market with incentives) If you wonder why Revis would do this deal even when the Bucs were awful and had issues, ask yourself what did Revis give up in entering this deal? Stated differently, what did the Bucs actually get for paying him ABOVE MARKET? The answer is very, very, very little. Revis made a fortune to rhab for a season and he held all the cards because the only way the Bucs keep him is to keep overpaying. .  and if they don't . . .he gets to the open market . . .  beautiful . . for Revis . .  not for the team giving up picks

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