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    • GoldsonAges

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      http://fanspeak.com/footballfantasy/2014/05/19/2014-fantasy-rankings-rookie-wide-receivers/Top 10 from fanspeak.com article. Good read. Very surprised that he completely left Cooks off of the list. I am not a huge fan but jeez. 10. Latimer9. Lee8. ARobinson jr.7. Bryant6. Mathews5. Landry4. OBJ3. Benjamin2. Watkins1. Evans

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      How I got it – 10. Martavis Bryant Steelers9.  Donte Moncrief Colts8. Kelvin Benjamin Panthers7. Cody Latimer Broncos6. Davante Adams Packers5. Jordan Matthews Eagles4. OBJ Giants3. Mike Evans Buc's2. Bradin Cooks Saints1. Sammy Watkins Bills

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      Sleepers Jeff Janis GB, Josh Brown ARZ,  Campanaro BAL and Herron TB.  Not draftable but think they can end up being a waiver wire gem.

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      a fantasy ranking for rookie WRs that goes to 10 is way to deep/. No way in hell there will be close to 10 relevant rookie WRs for fantasy. Evans should be #1, Watkins #2, then just maybe 2 more guys you can draft late. After 4 or 5 the rest are waiver wire pick ups

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      a fantasy ranking for rookie WRs that goes to 10 is way to deep/. No way in hell there will be close to 10 relevant rookie WRs for fantasy. Evans should be #1, Watkins #2, then just maybe 2 more guys you can draft late. After 4 or 5 the rest are waiver wire pick ups

      Agreed.  WR's take a season to get warmed up - this was a great WR class but only a few will produce.  My money is on Landry being the most productive WR his rookie season.

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      a fantasy ranking for rookie WRs that goes to 10 is way to deep/. No way in hell there will be close to 10 relevant rookie WRs for fantasy. Evans should be #1, Watkins #2, then just maybe 2 more guys you can draft late. After 4 or 5 the rest are waiver wire pick ups

      Agreed.  WR's take a season to get warmed up - this was a great WR class but only a few will produce.  My money is on Landry being the most productive WR his rookie season.

      If I had to put money on one, I would take Cooks.

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      My top 5:1. Evans. No brainer with McCown at QB.2. Benjamin. CAR has nothing at WR. This kid will produce by default.3. Bryant. Big Ben is going to make him look like Randy Moss on crack. 4. Matthews. Outside of Cooper the Eagles have nothing but injury prone midgets.5. Cooks. Speaking of midgets, Cooks is a Super Midget. Maybe he is that 1 in 1,000 midget who actually can contribute in the NFL.

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      Cooks? Great talent but everyone knows there is no such thing as a consistent weekly start in the Saints WR corps. Graham and Brees are the only no doubt starters in that offense. Sammy? Who is the QB again? I think Evans leads the group. OBJ, Moncrief, and Adams will follow.

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      Cooks? Great talent but everyone knows there is no such thing as a consistent weekly start in the Saints WR corps. Graham and Brees are the only no doubt starters in that offense. Sammy? Who is the QB again? I think Evans leads the group. OBJ, Moncrief, and Adams will follow.

      This. Cooks will not and should not get a ton of fantasy fans but it is more of a result of what the Saints do on offense as opposed to any talent deficiencies.

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      Brees spreads the ball around nicely. Really dont play fantasy football but Im guessing only the top 2-3 are draftable.

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      Brees spreads the ball around nicely. Really dont play fantasy football but Im guessing only the top 2-3 are draftable.

      He does.  Typically the only Saints I would ever take on my team was Brees, Graham, and Sproles.  I think with Sproles going to Philly...they are going to find a lot of ways to get Cooks the ball and let him make plays in a similar way.

    • gobucs123

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      Brees spreads the ball around nicely. Really dont play fantasy football but Im guessing only the top 2-3 are draftable.

      He does.  Typically the only Saints I would ever take on my team was Brees, Graham, and Sproles.  I think with Sproles going to Philly...they are going to find a lot of ways to get Cooks the ball and let him make plays in a similar way.

      He's no Sproles . You can throw Cooks some bubble screens , but you can't  line him up in the backfield and run a successful draw up the middle with him.

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      Brees spreads the ball around nicely. Really dont play fantasy football but Im guessing only the top 2-3 are draftable.

      He does.  Typically the only Saints I would ever take on my team was Brees, Graham, and Sproles.  I think with Sproles going to Philly...they are going to find a lot of ways to get Cooks the ball and let him make plays in a similar way.

      He's no Sproles . You can throw Cooks some bubble screens , but you can't  line him up in the backfield and run a successful draw up the middle with him.

      Not saying he is...just saying all those touches he got have to go somewhere.  I would take a late round flier on him.

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      Cooks will be used in a Sproles type role. That being said I would look for him to make a huge impact as i’m sure he’s not Darren Sproles, just yet, and NO has plenty of other options. I would take Evans #1 because i’m not sold on the guy throwing the ball to Watkins.

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      I think Cooks will do quite well, actually. I think he belongs in the top 10. I agree with Evans being #1 because I’m a homer and because of the situation he’s in. I want to rank Sammy higher but I just don’t see him having a great rookie year because of his QB situation. It’s too big of a question mark. I think Matthews, Bryant and Davante Adams all have a good shot at producing well for rookie WRs simply because of the situations they’re in.

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      I think Cooks will do quite well, actually. I think he belongs in the top 10. I agree with Evans being #1 because I'm a homer and because of the situation he's in. I want to rank Sammy higher but I just don't see him having a great rookie year because of his QB situation. It's too big of a question mark. I think Matthews, Bryant and Davante Adams all have a good shot at producing well for rookie WRs simply because of the situations they're in.

      Really like what the Bills did to help out Manuel. Bring in Mike Williams and draft Sammy Watkins to go along with Woods, CJ Spiller and Fred Jackson. Chandler is a servicable TE.  Adding three OL guys that have 1st round talent in Cyrus Kouandjio, Cyril Richardson and Sentrel Henderson. I can see the Bills being a suprise team this year.

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      I think Cooks will do quite well, actually. I think he belongs in the top 10. I agree with Evans being #1 because I'm a homer and because of the situation he's in. I want to rank Sammy higher but I just don't see him having a great rookie year because of his QB situation. It's too big of a question mark. I think Matthews, Bryant and Davante Adams all have a good shot at producing well for rookie WRs simply because of the situations they're in.

      Really like what the Bills did to help out Manuel. Bring in Mike Williams and draft Sammy Watkins to go along with Woods, CJ Spiller and Fred Jackson. Chandler is a servicable TE.  Adding three OL guys that have 1st round talent in Cyrus Kouandjio, Cyril Richardson and Sentrel Henderson. I can see the Bills being a suprise team this year.

      Completely agree.  I love Manuel and Watkins and see them as a contender in the AFC. 

    • gobucs123

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      Bills will find a way to screw it up. Don’t worry.

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      I can see Evans or Watkins ending up first with the other being a close second.

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      I think Cooks will do quite well, actually. I think he belongs in the top 10. I agree with Evans being #1 because I'm a homer and because of the situation he's in. I want to rank Sammy higher but I just don't see him having a great rookie year because of his QB situation. It's too big of a question mark. I think Matthews, Bryant and Davante Adams all have a good shot at producing well for rookie WRs simply because of the situations they're in.

      Really like what the Bills did to help out Manuel. Bring in Mike Williams and draft Sammy Watkins to go along with Woods, CJ Spiller and Fred Jackson. Chandler is a servicable TE.  Adding three OL guys that have 1st round talent in Cyrus Kouandjio, Cyril Richardson and Sentrel Henderson. I can see the Bills being a suprise team this year.

      I dont think they upgraded the OL too much. I like Kujo but he may need some time. Richardson was undraftable in my boook. If Seantrel Henderson can get his head right, he could be a great pickup. But I dont expect any of these guys to light up the league, or even be above average starters this year. IMO if any of them work out the benefit will be seen in 2015 and beyond. Not sure how much they upgraded their skill positions either. Lost Stevie Johnson and picked up MW. Watkins being a midget rookie WR may struggle with the pro game his first year. They are a 5-6 win team IMO.

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      Watkins has a legit chance to hit 1100 yards and 7-8 TD’s as a rookie. The only knock on his production with be the garbage QB throwing him the ball.

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      Watkins has a legit chance to hit 1100 yards and 7-8 TD's as a rookie. The only knock on his production with be the garbage QB throwing him the ball.

      Would be cool if you used English when posting. 

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      Watkins has a legit chance to hit 1100 yards and 7-8 TD's as a rookie. The only knock on his production with be the garbage QB throwing him the ball.

      Would be cool if you used English when posting.

      * would beMy apologies officer. I didn't realize the grammar police were on patrol this evening.

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      Watkins has a legit chance to hit 1100 yards and 7-8 TD's as a rookie. The only knock on his production with be the garbage QB throwing him the ball.

      Sammy Watkins has a legit chance to hit 1100 yards? Which would be a top-5 all-time rookie performance ... let me get this straight ... with a garbage QB, and a bad OL?Surely, you have made a grave miscalculation bro. Sammy Watkins: 55 catches 700 yards 3 td's would be phenomenal on that team for a rookie WR.

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      Watkins has a legit chance to hit 1100 yards and 7-8 TD's as a rookie. The only knock on his production with be the garbage QB throwing him the ball.

      Sammy Watkins has a legit chance to hit 1100 yards? Which would be a top-5 all-time rookie performance ... let me get this straight ... with a garbage QB, and a bad OL?Surely, you have made a grave miscalculation bro. Sammy Watkins: 55 catches 700 yards 3 td's would be phenomenal on that team for a rookie WR.

      :o :oI was talking numbers with a co-worker and typing at the same time. My apologies. I think 850-900 yards and 7-8 TD's is possible. And, yes, I do think that their offense could surprise some. But, in the end, EJ will be his biggest downfall.

    • gobucs123

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      All those Bill lineman have huge bust potential. Good chance two of those three flame out and never  contribute a thing.

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      Bad QB’s don’t affect good WR’s all that much. Look at VJax last year or Andre Johnson or Josh Gordon.WR's don't create yards they affect distribution of yards if you have a stud WR with a bad or young QB's they will often lock in on that guy because they trust him. Moss always had big games when it was time for his backups to come in.

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      I think Cooks will do quite well, actually. I think he belongs in the top 10. I agree with Evans being #1 because I'm a homer and because of the situation he's in. I want to rank Sammy higher but I just don't see him having a great rookie year because of his QB situation. It's too big of a question mark. I think Matthews, Bryant and Davante Adams all have a good shot at producing well for rookie WRs simply because of the situations they're in.

      Really like what the Bills did to help out Manuel. Bring in Mike Williams and draft Sammy Watkins to go along with Woods, CJ Spiller and Fred Jackson. Chandler is a servicable TE.  Adding three OL guys that have 1st round talent in Cyrus Kouandjio, Cyril Richardson and Sentrel Henderson. I can see the Bills being a suprise team this year.

      Completely agree.  I love Manuel and Watkins and see them as a contender in the AFC.

      Just looking at the sportsbook and you can get 13 to 1 odds on Buffalo winning their division. They are 26 to 1 to win the AFC. 67 to 1 they win the Superbowl. The Bills play at Chicago in week one, who were dreadful on defense last year. 3.5 to 1 odds on that game. I would wait though it will go up more than likely. Man, if you are ready to make that leap you could really clean up this year.

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      Bad QB's don't affect good WR's all that much. Look at VJax last year or Andre Johnson or Josh Gordon.WR's don't create yards they affect distribution of yards if you have a stud WR with a bad or young QB's they will often lock in on that guy because they trust him. Moss always had big games when it was time for his backups to come in.

      Tell that to Larry Fitzgerald.

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      Bad QB's don't affect good WR's all that much. Look at VJax last year or Andre Johnson or Josh Gordon.WR's don't create yards they affect distribution of yards if you have a stud WR with a bad or young QB's they will often lock in on that guy because they trust him. Moss always had big games when it was time for his backups to come in.

      Tell that to Larry Fitzgerald.

      Yay, one guy a couple of years ago and he had a level of QB'ing that was historically incompetent. When he had Kolb who isn't really good but at least not Lindley or Skelton awful he was fine.Manuel, who I do not like much, isn't THAT bad. He's gonna be a Jake Locker competent and replaceable but not Gabbertian awful player.

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      Bad QB's don't affect good WR's all that much. Look at VJax last year or Andre Johnson or Josh Gordon.WR's don't create yards they affect distribution of yards if you have a stud WR with a bad or young QB's they will often lock in on that guy because they trust him. Moss always had big games when it was time for his backups to come in.

      Tell that to Larry Fitzgerald.

      Yay, one guy a couple of years ago and he had a level of QB'ing that was historically incompetent. When he had Kolb who isn't really good but at least not Lindley or Skelton awful he was fine.Manuel, who I do not like much, isn't THAT bad. He's gonna be a Jake Locker competent and replaceable but not Gabbertian awful player.

      Its not just one guy though. TO left SF because of the QB. He was never satisfied with his QB..Andre Johnson right now wants out of Houston ... because of bad QBing. Marvin Harrison threatened to leave Indianapolis if they didnt bring in another great WR to take the pressure off of him ... and they won a Superbowl after. I could go on and on and give examples. This is the reason why the elite WR's are labelled divas, because they dont want to spend their careers playing with a bad QB. The truth is that it is very rare for elite WR's to play with elite QB's. Usually when that happens the result is very good. Lots of examples of this. So my thoery is that if you think you can get one then you get them and hope to add the other piece of the puzzle soon after.

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      Sure they want a good QB...so they can win. If they did what people think they did they'd make their QB's good.

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      Dal is right. #1 receivers put up yards with any QB who isn’t completely awful. It’s #2 and #3 receivers who get killed by mediocre QB play.

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      Sure they want a good QB...so they can win. If they did what people think they did they'd make their QB's good.

      I gotta hear this one. How does a WR make a bad QB good.

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      I think Cooks will do quite well, actually. I think he belongs in the top 10. I agree with Evans being #1 because I'm a homer and because of the situation he's in. I want to rank Sammy higher but I just don't see him having a great rookie year because of his QB situation. It's too big of a question mark. I think Matthews, Bryant and Davante Adams all have a good shot at producing well for rookie WRs simply because of the situations they're in.

      Really like what the Bills did to help out Manuel. Bring in Mike Williams and draft Sammy Watkins to go along with Woods, CJ Spiller and Fred Jackson. Chandler is a servicable TE.  Adding three OL guys that have 1st round talent in Cyrus Kouandjio, Cyril Richardson and Sentrel Henderson. I can see the Bills being a suprise team this year.

      Completely agree.  I love Manuel and Watkins and see them as a contender in the AFC.

      Just looking at the sportsbook and you can get 13 to 1 odds on Buffalo winning their division. They are 26 to 1 to win the AFC. 67 to 1 they win the Superbowl. The Bills play at Chicago in week one, who were dreadful on defense last year. 3.5 to 1 odds on that game. I would wait though it will go up more than likely. Man, if you are ready to make that leap you could really clean up this year.

      I always get bets in early.  Example, I knew when the Falcons picked up that geriatric RB Jackson last off season that they weren't going to amount to much.  I bet $550 at 110 that they would lose more than 6 games. Their over under win total was 10 last year.  Free money.  I like the Bills roster and know that Sammy won't take a year to gel with EJ.  When I say contend though I really should say make the playoffs, which gets you in contention.  I think they are probably the 5th or 6th best team in the AFC depending on what kind of move up the Steelers and Ravens make.  I will make a lot of money this season gambling, most of it will be on futures.

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      I think Cooks will do quite well, actually. I think he belongs in the top 10. I agree with Evans being #1 because I'm a homer and because of the situation he's in. I want to rank Sammy higher but I just don't see him having a great rookie year because of his QB situation. It's too big of a question mark. I think Matthews, Bryant and Davante Adams all have a good shot at producing well for rookie WRs simply because of the situations they're in.

      Really like what the Bills did to help out Manuel. Bring in Mike Williams and draft Sammy Watkins to go along with Woods, CJ Spiller and Fred Jackson. Chandler is a servicable TE.  Adding three OL guys that have 1st round talent in Cyrus Kouandjio, Cyril Richardson and Sentrel Henderson. I can see the Bills being a suprise team this year.

      I dont think they upgraded the OL too much. I like Kujo but he may need some time. Richardson was undraftable in my boook. If Seantrel Henderson can get his head right, he could be a great pickup. But I dont expect any of these guys to light up the league, or even be above average starters this year. IMO if any of them work out the benefit will be seen in 2015 and beyond. Not sure how much they upgraded their skill positions either. Lost Stevie Johnson and picked up MW. Watkins being a midget rookie WR may struggle with the pro game his first year. They are a 5-6 win team IMO.

      It's kind of crazy how far Richardson dropped. He was considered a late 1st early 2nd, had some bad practices at the Senior bowl and his stock plummeted. That was an absolute steal by the Bills imo.  They really upgraded their skill positions by adding Mike Williams and Watkins while getting rid of Johnson, you disagree we will see..

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      I think Cooks will do quite well, actually. I think he belongs in the top 10. I agree with Evans being #1 because I'm a homer and because of the situation he's in. I want to rank Sammy higher but I just don't see him having a great rookie year because of his QB situation. It's too big of a question mark. I think Matthews, Bryant and Davante Adams all have a good shot at producing well for rookie WRs simply because of the situations they're in.

      Really like what the Bills did to help out Manuel. Bring in Mike Williams and draft Sammy Watkins to go along with Woods, CJ Spiller and Fred Jackson. Chandler is a servicable TE.  Adding three OL guys that have 1st round talent in Cyrus Kouandjio, Cyril Richardson and Sentrel Henderson. I can see the Bills being a suprise team this year.

      Completely agree.  I love Manuel and Watkins and see them as a contender in the AFC.

      Just looking at the sportsbook and you can get 13 to 1 odds on Buffalo winning their division. They are 26 to 1 to win the AFC. 67 to 1 they win the Superbowl. The Bills play at Chicago in week one, who were dreadful on defense last year. 3.5 to 1 odds on that game. I would wait though it will go up more than likely. Man, if you are ready to make that leap you could really clean up this year.

      I always get bets in early.  Example, I knew when the Falcons picked up that geriatric RB Jackson last off season that they weren't going to amount to much.  I bet $550 at 110 that they would lose more than 6 games. Their over under win total was 10 last year.  Free money.  I like the Bills roster and know that Sammy won't take a year to gel with EJ.  When I say contend though I really should say make the playoffs, which gets you in contention.  I think they are probably the 5th or 6th best team in the AFC depending on what kind of move up the Steelers and Ravens make.  I will make a lot of money this season gambling, most of it will be on futures.

      That is where the easy money is but you wont see it until December. Thats 7 months that they are holding your cash if you bet right now. I just bet for fun and so I never make those bets. Carolina to win the division with about 4 or 5 weeks remaining was almost 4 to 1 last year and I passed that one up. The most they are holding my cash is a few days and then Im cashing out on a weekly basis. It's just a little extra spending cash. The key for me is to watch the lines early and look for the value bets. Sometimes they have like 50 different betting options per game and they dont always set those lines correctly. I'm more of a value bettor and love me some parlays too. Also had to learn to cash out weekly. If you always let it ride you will never win it. lol.

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