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    • Mark Cook

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      Which Tampa Bay units graded out the highest in 2013? What is the outlook for next season at every position? Find out as PewterReport.com dishes out the season-ending grades for Tampa Bay’s offense, defense and special teams and and an early preview of 2014.https://www.pewterreport.com/index.php?option=com_k2&Itemid=20&view=item&layout=item&id=9571

    • Anonymous

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      This is an under discussed issue on these boards:"including if Williams rebounds from a poor 2013 season and if his head is in the right place to excel. Williams' off-field shenanigans were something that was extremely concerning to the previous staff, and it will be interesting to see how Smith and new general manager Jason Licht will handle it"Many seem to expect pre-injury, pre-contract performance from Williams as a given, but if you add a "fitness" injury to the guy's tweets since he went down, Williams could end up being the classic "I got my deal" guy, a guy who never performs to the same level after he got paid.  I hope I am wrong about that, but all of his tweets are about partying and only a few weeks ago he tweeted something about spending $30K on dinner because he could. mike williams sr ?@Mikebuc19  Jan 14  You ever see 30 grand go by in three hours ????? Watch me tonight!!!.... 5k tip now. >>> just cause I can! Don't believe me just watchNot sure about him

    • Anonymous

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      Yeah, that’s scary. I'd be careful with calling a hamstring a "fitness" injury. They can be the result of a lot of things.

    • Anonymous

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      Yeah, that's scary. I'd be careful with calling a hamstring a "fitness" injury. They can be the result of a lot of things.

      agree on the injury, that is why I put it in quotes.  Definitely other causes but I wonder what the stats say about injuries after a big deal? j/k

    • Anonymous

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      I followed Mike Williams for a while on Twitter and was amazed at his immaturity. It got so ridiculous I “unfollowed” him. I hope Lovie gets wind and looks at these posts. He may well have to take an action there.

    • Anonymous

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      BTW I was at One Buc today and saw Mike Glennon. The players cannot be coached at all now but they can work out with trainers. We heard Carl Nicks was there as well. Although it’s an extremely quiet time of year as far as player activity there it was good to know some players were around.

    • Anonymous

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      MC – Not sure how QB, WR, TE and RB all grade out as “C’s” especially considering that Martin’s injury was not to his legs – if anything if both Martin, James, Smith and Demps are all going to be available for part or nearly all of the OTA’s the RB unit should be much higher than a “C” if not the highest ranked unit on the offensive side of the football – depth alone garners a “B” when you add Rainey to the picture. The biggest problem with the receiver position is quality depth – especially after Jackson and Williams – there is none. The TE unit is abysmal with most if not all of them being a mere afterthought in the previous offensive system – the only promising player in the bunch is Wright and he is limited as strictly a one denominational threat as he offers the team nothing in the form of blocking so with him on the field its makes the team that much more predictable offensively. For me the TE unit is clearly a “D” and based on what was put on tape the O-Line should get a big fat “F” when you consider the amount of cap space being eaten up by subpar players the amount of free agents and injury concerns.Of course those are just my quick thoughts...

    • Anonymous

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      MC - Not sure how QB, WR, TE and RB all grade out as "C's" especially considering that Martin's injury was not to his legs - if anything if both Martin, James, Smith and Demps are all going to be available for part or nearly all of the OTA's the RB unit should be much higher than a "C" if not the highest ranked unit on the offensive side of the football - depth alone garners a "B" when you add Rainey to the picture. The biggest problem with the receiver position is quality depth - especially after Jackson and Williams - there is none. The TE unit is abysmal with most if not all of them being a mere afterthought in the previous offensive system - the only promising player in the bunch is Wright and he is limited as strictly a one denominational threat as he offers the team nothing in the form of blocking so with him on the field its makes the team that much more predictable offensively. For me the TE unit is clearly a "D" and based on what was put on tape the O-Line should get a big fat "F" when you consider the amount of cap space being eaten up by subpar players the amount of free agents and injury concerns.Of course those are just my quick thoughts...

      Sorry Yucc, the grades were for 2013, sorry if the title was misleading.

    • Anonymous

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      MC – No problem…

    • Anonymous

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      I followed Mike Williams for a while on Twitter and was amazed at his immaturity. It got so ridiculous I "unfollowed" him. I hope Lovie gets wind and looks at these posts. He may well have to take an action there.

      To me he seems very expendable as a player. He's gonna be a guy who has a career in that Mario Manningham category. Just doesn't have the fundamental skills to be a good down in and down out WR but can make some plays periodically. For now, I'd love to see him move from being our #2 to being a #3 type WR. We're grossly overpaying for what he does at that point but still think it is better overall for the team.

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