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    • kenntak

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      The Bucs have run a 4-3 base defense for so many years. If I recall correctly, the 3-4 defense became popular in the 1980’s in response to the short passing game. Most teams run a 4-3 base defense today, but why has there not been more of a resurgence with the 3-4 since the passing game has become so dominant? I know the Bucs always have problems with the Steelers’ 3-4 defense. Of course, the base defense used should be based on personnel, but I wonder if a 3-4 defense could be doable, assuming of course there is the right personnel.

    • Anonymous

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      Right now? The linebacker depth is so bad they couldn’t even dream of running a 3-4.

    • tog

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      A lot of switchover between 3-4 and 4-3 defenses had to do with personnel. When you had a 4-3 defense as dominant, smaller 3-4 rush LBs became more plentiful and less valuable (thus it was easier to run a 3-4 defense) and vice versa.

      Another way to think of this is with the Tampa 2. Originally, the Bucs went against the grain by acquiring smart, slow, strong tackling CBs who excelled in zone. These were undervalued and thus a competitive advantage to acquire. But then numerous teams started emulating the Tampa 2 and it was harder to get personnel.

      There’s more going on (including adaptation to defensive schemes). But the reality now is that most teams are running hybrid schemes. There is no difference between Wade Phillips 3-4 and a 4-3 purely from the down lineman perspective. Where teams will vary is with over/under/eagle alignments, how many players are 1 or 2-gapping, etc.

      Not to mention that teams are at least 60% nickel. The real innovation now is with different pass defense formations (Big Nickel, Dime, etc.).

    • NotDeadYet

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      Having the right personnel is the key for whatever the D is. The advantage of a 3-4 is being more capable of blitzing with minimal compromise in coverage. Sometimes in a 4-3, a DE will drop into coverage to compensate for a blitzer, but that’s not ideal. The Patriots have the personnel to run either, depending on situations..

    • Anonymous

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      Carl Nassib disagrees.

      Having the right personnel is the key for whatever the D is. The advantage of a 3-4 is being more capable of blitzing with minimal compromise in coverage. Sometimes in a 4-3, a DE will drop into coverage to compensate for a blitzer, but that’s not ideal. The Patriots have the personnel to run either, depending on situations..

    • Buc on the Move

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      While Nassib was beaten by a better throw, that was an amazing play.  Nassib had a huge day.  If he can put a few more like that in the can, the Nassib/JPP bookend could be enough for me to give JLicht one more year.

    • kenntak

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      Thanks everyone, very informative.

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