Chron is trolling a lot with this line about selfies … FWIW I DO think people should be imprisoned for taking selfies. So it’s not this great defense — we’d lose nothing by locking up every single person who ever took a selfie. SCUM!
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I want Trump gone now. He deserves to be gone now. But that may not be the best thing.
It will give ammunition to the Trumpies to call this a takeover and claim that this is because Trump was somehow going to be able to maintain his power. If it was going to reduce the chance of Insurrection Part 2, I would be in favor of that. But it won’t. It will only fan the flames more and make it worse. If Trump is in a position to call out the military or set off nuclear bombs, OK cut him off with the 25th Amendment. But short of Trump trying to declare martial law or calling out the Proud Boys to attack Washington (which I’m not saying those things are impossible) I don’t see the benefit of getting rid of him with 8 days to go. And why make Pence look more presidential for 2024?
I think they should take their time on this impeachment, wait past Bidens first 100 days and then press forward with the impeachment. A comprehensive investigation and a thorough impeachment process in the House will make it tougher for the Republicans in the Senate to sweep this aside which they are already trying to do, and it shouldn’t be swept aside. Not now or ever.
NBC News: Legal experts are divided into three camps of opinion, however, on what happens if the president leaves office.
One group says a president can be impeached only while in office. “I tend to believe it is only for current office holders,” said Harvard law professor Cass Sunstein, author of “Impeachment: A Citizen’s Guide.”
According to a second group of scholars, if the House votes to impeach while the president is in office, the Senate can proceed to a trial even after the president has left office.
“Once an impeachment begins in the House, it may continue to a Senate trial. I don’t see any constitutional problem with the Senate acting fast or slowly,” said Michael Gerhardt, a law professor at the University North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
And a third view is that the entire process can begin even after the president is out of office.
“The constitutional case for late impeachment has more strengths and fewer flaws than the case against it,” wrote Brian Kalt, a professor at the Michigan State University College of Law in a widely cited law review article on the subject.
No president has ever been impeached after leaving office, but there is one legal precedent that may be important.
In 1876, Secretary of War William Belknap was investigated by the House for corruption. Just minutes before the House was set to vote on his impeachment, he raced to the White House and handed his resignation to President Ulysses Grant.
The House went ahead and impeached him anyway, and the Senate proceeded to have a trial. A majority voted to convict, but not the two-thirds required, so he was acquitted. The scholars in the second camp point to this example to bolster their argument that even after leaving office, a president could be convicted and barred from holding future federal office.