All-22 Film Review: Bucs QB Jameis Winston’s 30 INTs

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  • #1253323
    Havok904
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    So just how many of Winston’s 30 interceptions happened because of poor decisions by Tampa Bay’s controversial quarterback? Let’s go to the league’s All-22 film to breakdown all 30 INTs in great detail, examining as much context as we possibly can to find an answer as close to the truth as we can get.

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    #1253332
    Pepsi
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    Pasting Nobody’s breakdown here for quick reference incase anyone wants to compare. Their numbers on Winston faulted ints are pretty different..

     

    2019 – How Many Interceptions Were Not Jameis’ Fault?

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    #1253334
    LIBucsFan93
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    Anyone that has watched Winston for any length of time knows that he’s doesn’t throw the touch pass well at all. He’s great a zipping the ball in there. On the shorter routes that require timing and touch his receivers have trouble controlling the ball.

    You can say that the WR should’ve caught the ball but Winston isn’t absolved of blame either. Receivers try to make plays on poorly thrown (High or behind) all the time. This article is simply trying to deflect blame away from Winston. 30 interceptions isn’t an anomaly. Winston’s gunslinger mentality is the primary concern and that is never going to change IMO.

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    #1253346
    Nobody
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    I didn’t read the whole breakdown.  I just looked at our first different determination and then scrolled to the bottom.

    The Screen wasn’t his fault because…the Offensive Line…and 15.5 were not his fault overall?

    That is unfortunate.  Oftentimes I like Trevor’s work.  This is not one of those times.

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    #1253349
    Pennywise
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    I’ll put my stock in nobody ,unbias opinion.

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    #1253350
    kenntak
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    Give me Nobody’s analysis any day. Someone should analyze how many interceptions Winston should have had but were dropped by the defender and include those too. Those could have been his fault too.

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    #1253354
    Nobody
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    The only one where I could see real disagreement is on the Watson Option route Week 17 vs Houston.

    If someone were to say “the option that Watson didn’t run was a Dig route, not a Post route”, then we could have some conversation about that (because, I stated in my analysis, the Dig route works against that coverage, while the Post route is in big trouble because its naturally bracketed by the boundary CB technique and the Single High Safety who is sitting in the kitchen of the Post).

    However, the way the play works out doesn’t remotely look like Dig was the option.  The ball would have been an entirely different trajectory.  If Jameis was throwing the Dig there, the ball would have been hugely airmailed.  It was definitely a Post that he threw.

    And all of that is besides the point, the real culprit of that pick isn’t about the Option route.  The real culprit of that play is that you’ve got a pair of Verts against two entirely different CB techniques (Off, outside leverage, Bail and Press, outside leverage, Bump-and-run in-phase) w/ a Single High Safety in between.

    The QB play here is look off the Safety toward Watson and then go back to the Bump-and-Run CB on the other side which ultimately loses to the Go route.

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    #1253364
    buc_boi
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    I find topics like these to be quite interesting, you know these forums are an outlet for us fans to discuss any topic related to our bucs. Such as topics like this very one,  but I feel like this topic shreds more light onto the authors intentions more so than the actual content of the the thread.

    I say this because I don’t remember too many topics excusing Mike Glennons poor play, PR is a know Winston apologist so I’m not surprised they believe half of Winston interceptions are due to the “team around him”… reality suggests differently.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    #1253366
    FireLicht2020
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    PR no longer stand for Pewter Report. It stands for public relations – for Winston.

     

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    #1253372
    Havok904
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    I say this because I don’t remember too many topics excusing Mike Glennons poor play, PR is a know Winston apologist so I’m not surprised they believe half of Winston interceptions are due to the “team around him”… reality suggests differently.
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    Try reading the article.

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    #1253373
    Havok904
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    FireLicht2020
    PR no longer stand for Pewter Report. It stands for public relations – for Winston.
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    LoL
    You must have stopped reading after the title.

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    #1253374
    seekpar
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    I didn’t look at the report. I already invested a bunch of time reviewing Nobody’s excellent analysis. He gotta go. Aimless Jameis is not worth $10m let alone $25-$30m. He and his reps are only looking at the 5k+ yards and 33 TDs, not the 30 INTS. The money the Bucs would have to pay Aimless Jameis is much better spent elsewhere. My concern is the Bucs ownership and management do not have the guts to admit they screwed up royally and let Aimless Jameis go.

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    #1253376
    Badtimes
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    Trevor Sikkema is a reporter whose income depends on access to players. Reporters who lose access to players find themselves on the outside.

    Nobody’s analysis of Winston’s interceptions was more accurate.

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    #1253379
    buc_boi
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    I say this because I don’t remember too many topics excusing Mike Glennons poor play, PR is a know Winston apologist so I’m not surprised they believe half of Winston interceptions are due to the “team around him”… reality suggests differently.

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    Try reading the article.

    I did

     

     

    edit: “If Winston’s teammates had not had balls bounce off their hands or run the wrong routes would that have led to fewer turnovers and meant more wins for Tampa Bay in 2019? Yes“

     

     

     

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    #1253392
    GoldsonAges
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    I agree with the majority of these.

    On No.2 anyone with knowledge of route running can literally see Barber butchered that route. It’s obvious.

    I would give Dare 1/2 of No.3 as he HAD to cross Buckners face in order for the play to be successful.

    Overall a very good unbiased breakdown.

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