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    • KarmaPolice

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      maybe he chose his world really poorly, but when all your other FauxNewsers moan . .

    • KarmaPolice

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    • jbear

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      Sounds reasonable to me. Maxine and Joe should have kept their mouths shut until after the verdict. There was plenty enough hysteria around this case without them giving ammo to the defense.

    • spartan

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      I’m sure there is some logic behind it, but I’m still trying to figure out how you can be guilty of killing the same person 3 different ways.

    • KarmaPolice

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      I’m sure there is some logic behind it, but I’m still trying to figure out how you can be guilty of killing the same person 3 different ways.

      Not 3 different ways, 3 different crimes

      You and a buddy rob a store. While doing so you strike the clerk with a Coke can. Your buddy later kills the clerk

      Your charges

      Robbery
      Assault
      Felony murder

    • KarmaPolice

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    • Donkey_Hunter

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      Sounds reasonable to me

      Or, maybe, the jury watched someone murder another on film and that was enough for them to conclude a guilty verdict?

      • jbear

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        I meant that it was reasonable for a pundit, in this environment, after Maxine and Joe weighed in on how the jury “should” rule.

        I’m glad he was convicted on all counts.

    • KarmaPolice

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      I’ve posted this before but Obama had two separate shooting incidents with white cops killing black man THE SAME DAY. those events wer followed by the tragic retaliation killing of Dallas police officers (plural) BY A BLACK MAN

      No nationwide rioting

      Why?

      Maybe because he didn’t take a “looting starts shooting starts” approach that immediately sided with the cops. He didn’t immediately seek to divide for political benefit

      If you are one of the people (mostly white) who try to suggest there is no racism or you try to downplay the racism issue in policing ….the jury just told you CLEARLY that you were wrong

      Trump was 100000% wrong and his approach led to worldwide rioting just as his approach to policing led to Floyd’s death and others

      Watching mostly white peoples now discredit the verdict in a variety of ways ONLY SEALS THE POINT. Racism doesn’t end easily.

      • jbear

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        This entire post is pretty much 100000 percent unreasonable.

        There are a lot of places where you could make a point but you go bananas instead.

        I agree that the way we are policing is wrong. I even agree that biases and prejudices effect decision making but I reject the ideas that you spout off about that “white” people are the problem, that the answer is some kind of issue only for blacks or other minorities. I’ve mentioned before about my mothers white drunk asshole uncle who was beaten to death by the cops in the MO in the late 60’s. Nobody ever went to jail for that. Call it the exception sure whatever… when you address these problems the way the left does you are creating more of a divide and are not making anything any better.

        Systematic racism in police forces…. yeah more like systematic bias inherent in the human race. Good luck with that one benevolent left.

    • KarmaPolice

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      Sounds reasonable to me

      Or, maybe, the jury watched someone murder another on film and that was enough for them to conclude a guilty verdict?

      A small child was a witness. Supposedly, As she watched Floyd die, she told her cousin “call the cops”

      Intuitively a small child knew she was watching something wrong. Anyone watching that video would have to conclude it was a murder if for no other reason than his disregard even after he’s motionless

    • FireLicht2020

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      Funny watching the desperate attempts to find a scandal with Biden… it’s like Obama with a tan suit all over again.

      Thank you Biden for bringing respectability back to the white house and sending that orange windbag back to making wedding appearances for $2k.

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    • harrybucman

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      This entire post is pretty much 100000 percent unreasonable.

      There are a lot of places where you could make a point but you go bananas instead.

      I agree that the way we are policing is wrong. I even agree that biases and prejudices effect decision making but I reject the ideas that you spout off about that “white” people are the problem, that the answer is some kind of issue only for blacks or other minorities. I’ve mentioned before about my mothers white drunk asshole uncle who was beaten to death by the cops in the MO in the late 60’s. Nobody ever went to jail for that. Call it the exception sure whatever… when you address these problems the way the left does you are creating more of a divide and are not making anything any better.

      Systematic racism in police forces…. yeah more like systematic bias inherent in the human race. Good luck with that one benevolent left.

      Mr. Bear you say you’re are glad he got convicted. And the overwhelming evidence clearly proves his guilt. But there is a large percentages of American’s that did not want him to be found guilty. Can you please help me understand why?

      • jbear

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        I can’t speak for anyone who wanted him to be found not guilty since I’m not one of those people. I can say that some people wanted to be sure that he got a fair trial which I think he mostly did except for the nonsense at the end that may or may not prove to be enough to win an appeal.

        I want police reform. I’ve been talking about it for years… even before Donald Trump was elected President. Look up Rand Paul and his police reform initiatives that called to an end of the militarization of police, an end to the war on drugs in large part because of the racial outcomes where even though white kids do drugs at a roughly equivalent rate as black and brown kids they get charged with drug crimes at a far less frequent rate. My issue with police reform is only when/if we make it all about race instead of reforming the entire way that we police in a free society. It’s far to easy for police to kill citizens and chalk it up to self defense.

    • KarmaPolice

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      except for the nonsense at the end that may or may not prove to be enough to win an appeal.

      LOL

    • KarmaPolice

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      make it all about race instead of reforming the entire way that we police in a free society.

      so you want to “defund the police”

      Nice

    • KarmaPolice

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      Ladies and Gentlemen of The Cove, I give you @JBear as Obama’s spokesperson on police reform:

      reforming the entire way that we police in a free society.

      Or you can just read it on Oama’s website:

      REIMAGINE POLICING

      “The Reimagining Policing Pledge is a call for mayors and local officials to review and reform use of force policies, redefine public safety, and combat systemic racism within law enforcement.”

      So that’s THREE (3) . . . initiatives:

      1. “review and reform use of force policies”

      2. “redefine public safety”

      AND

      3. “combat systemic racism within law enforcement”



      @JBear
      . . you voted for the guy who said “when the looting starts the shooting starts” so what changed?

      (Kidding aside . . you realize that TRUMP dismantled these reforms, right?????????????)

    • KarmaPolice

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      Look forward to seeing you ALL donate (at the bottom of Obama’s website)

    • FireLicht2020

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      Jbear I appreciate you finding common ground, but also actions speak louder than words.

      This is a perfect example were a reasonably neutral candidate in Biden is the right choice over Trump… Biden was never some socialist puppet.

      Yet you voted for the fascist.

      This isn’t be rubbing your nose in it but rather HOPING that you learned a lesson from this…

      The Dems are run on a centrist platform. Obama and Biden are more liberal than conservative, but the way BOTH were painted, I would hope, will make you think twice about the socialist narrative.

      Because that narrative ain’t going away… the GOP is running out of legs to stand on so they either need to also move toward the center OR they will continue to paint moderate leftist as far left loons.

    • FireLicht2020

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      And that is why I also respectfully disagree with DH when he says both sides are bad… sure, Biden will not be perfect but he’s done a damn good job thus far getting the vaccine under control etc.

      Biden also plans to recognize the Armenian genocide, something that no other president has been willing to do…

      He still needs to DO all these things but I’d hope that you, or anyone sees that the narrative painted on Biden’s back was absolutely ridiculous…

      A socialist puppet hiding in a basement, 2 minutes away from death

    • KarmaPolice

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      now now . . dont get cynical

    • jbear

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      REIMAGINE POLICING

      “The Reimagining Policing Pledge is a call for mayors and local officials to review and reform use of force policies, redefine public safety, and combat systemic racism within law enforcement.”

      So that’s THREE (3) . . . initiatives:

      1. “review and reform use of force policies”

      2. “redefine public safety”

      AND

      3. “combat systemic racism within law enforcement”

      But I completely disagree with number 3. I agree with everyone on something.

    • KarmaPolice

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      REIMAGINE POLICING

      “The Reimagining Policing Pledge is a call for mayors and local officials to review and reform use of force policies, redefine public safety, and combat systemic racism within law enforcement.”

      So that’s THREE (3) . . . initiatives:

      1. “review and reform use of force policies”

      2. “redefine public safety”

      AND

      3. “combat systemic racism within law enforcement”

      But I completely disagree with number 3. I agree with everyone on something.

      yes but that means you’re in 66.6% agreement with Obama and BLM and the people who say “defund the police” because 1 and 2 are huge issues

      Youre Trumper Card may be in jeopardy

    • KarmaPolice

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      oops your

    • jbear

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      yes but that means you’re in 66.6% agreement with Obama and BLM and the people who say “defund the police” because 1 and 2 are huge issues

      Youre Trumper Card may be in jeopardy

      I’m not with anyone who uses the phrase “defund the police” Because that’s just dumb.

    • KarmaPolice

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      yes but that means you’re in 66.6% agreement with Obama and BLM and the people who say “defund the police” because 1 and 2 are huge issues

      Youre Trumper Card may be in jeopardy

      I’m not with anyone who uses the phrase “defund the police” Because that’s just dumb.

      dumb phrase but mostly means 1 & 2 so you’re on board with the product, but not the brand

      :-)

    • spartan

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      So that’s THREE (3) . . . initiatives:

      1. “review and reform use of force policies”

      2. “redefine public safety

      AND

      3. “combat systemic racism within law enforcement”

      1. This should be under perpetual review. I don’t see it as a need as a reform per se. Perhaps mandating that police review incidents of force on a regular basis. For example mandate that the Police review 2 out of every 10 incidents to insure policy was followed and undue force was not used. With body cams this should be easier than before.

      2 and 3. Depends what you mean. It’s like “re-imagining policing”. It’s the buzzword of the moment but nobody will put forward any concrete ideas or measurable policies. Sounds great but says nothing.

    • KarmaPolice

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      nobody will put forward any concrete ideas or measurable policies. Sounds great but says nothing.

      As usual wrong answer from the cocoon

    • KarmaPolice

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      The world is full of wonder. All one has to do is look around

      https://www.npr.org/2020/06/12/875548066/examples-of-re-imagining-police-departments-that-show-promise

      Citations over arrest
      Mental health first responder
      Civilian oversight

      (Discussed in this specific article)

      More

      Community policing
      De-escalation training
      Community responsibilities

    • KarmaPolice

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      More

      https://www.socialworkers.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=GjXJr6rDzss%3D&portalid=0

      “ Reimagining Policing: Strategies
      for Community Reinvestment
      Pre-Arrest Diversion; and Innovative
      Approaches to 911 Emergency Responses”

    • spartan

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      The world is full of wonder. All one has to do is look around

      https://www.npr.org/2020/06/12/875548066/examples-of-re-imagining-police-departments-that-show-promise

      Citations over arrest
      Mental health first responder
      Civilian oversight

      (Discussed in this specific article)

      More

      Community policing
      De-escalation training
      Community responsibilities

      Dude, please.

      Floyd George was arrested on suspicion of passing forged currency. That is a felony and is an immediate arrestable offence. The Police have no latitude and there is no citation (that I know of) that can be issued.

      The guy that was shot last week was being arrested on an arrest warrant for FAILING TO APPEAR. There is no leeway or citation that can be issued for that.

      On the mental health side of things I totally agree that the Police are not trained to deal with that kind of scenario, but like many other scenarios where the Police are probably not the best first responder, they are expected to respond and to deal with it.

    • spartan

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      More

      https://www.socialworkers.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=GjXJr6rDzss%3D&portalid=0

      “ Reimagining Policing: Strategies
      for Community Reinvestment
      Pre-Arrest Diversion; and Innovative
      Approaches to 911 Emergency Responses”

      I’ve seen this particular ” months ago. Like most of them, they say a lot and propose nothing concrete.

      “Raise awareness of implicit bias among police leaders and officers.”

      When someone is resisting arrest how the f*ck is that going to help?

      3. “Put policies in place to limit the impact of bias.”

      The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department evaluated their use-of-force data and identified a specific interaction that was resulting in excessive force: foot pursuits, especially with young men of color. They made a simple policy tweak that proved to be enormously effective: if you are the pursuing officer, you are not the same officer that puts the handcuffs on the suspect. In making this
      policy change, the department reduced use of force incidents that occurred following a pursuit by 23 percent.

      Any details on why this was? No. But knowing a little about the subject I’m going to take a guess. Most “foot pursuits” are engaged in by the first officer on the scene and he is invariably alone. Knowing that if he catches the offender he cannot cuff him, he is probably going to be in a 5 minute fight until backup arrives, that is if he can a message off on his radio that he needs help. So he/she thinks f*ck it.

      The number of times I have heard “back up required, backup required” by a cop screaming his head off for help but can’t get back to his radio to say where he is because he needs both hands to defend himself ….

      There have been many times where we have found a cops car but not the cop, and then we hear a panting officer stating suspect detained and gives his location …

    • KarmaPolice

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      Floyd George was arrested on suspicion of passing forged currency. That is a felony and is an immediate arrestable offence. The Police have no latitude and there is no citation (that I know of) that can be issued.

      Man you’re a piece of work. It’s that kind of ignorance (particularly with LEOs) that’s gets people killed

      People pass fake money all the time, often unknowingly, particularly in neighborhoods like that one. The felony is for KNOWINGLY passing fake money. If a white woman in a suburban neighborhood in Minnesota passed a fake $20 you’re saying 4 cops should have arrested her, guns drawn?

      And OF COURSE POLICE HAVE LATITUDE … Discretion

      Lastly .. dumbass … the very article you say offers “nothing concrete” offers the very real and very concrete example of citations for crime just like this one. Precisely so as to avoid what happened here. My point: take a flipping moment and read – especially when someone provides the material to you.

    • KarmaPolice

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      Had to look. It’s a misdemeanor @Spartan

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