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    • WhiskeyBuc

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      I’m 23 years old and I work a dead end 3rd shift retail job that makes me want to hang myself. I’ve managed to save a little over 11 grand and I’m actively investing a majority of it in stocks/mutual funds.  I was in community  college for some time, but dropped out a few credit shy of a general Associates Degree.. school feels like a waste of time when you don’t have a strong inclination of a career path. Anyone else just kind of miserably drifting?

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    • Anonymous

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      If you’re just a few credits shy of your AA then finish it up and get it over with. That’ll give you some time to sort out your direction and you’ll be doing something worthwhile. You may never need the AA but it very well could help in the future. If enrolling back into school means that you need to tighten your belt, then do it. Make a budget and stick to it. If you’re a capable person you’ll make it work and you’ll feel better that you accomplished something beneficial. If you’re not a capable person then you’ll be grinding away at a crappy job anyway. If you read your own post from an objective stand point you can see yourself what you need to do.Give yourself a kick in the ass, get focused and always be prudent with your investments.

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    • vlagatta

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      do you have a passion?  what would you be doing to make a living if there were no boundaries?

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    • Anonymous

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      “do you have a passion? “Excellent question. If the answer is no, then see my post above. If the answer is yes, then tell us what it is.

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    • Anonymous

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      If you're just a few credits shy of your AA then finish it up and get it over with. That'll give you some time to sort out your direction and you'll be doing something worthwhile. You may never need the AA but it very well could help in the future. If enrolling back into school means that you need to tighten your belt, then do it. Make a budget and stick to it. If you're a capable person you'll make it work and you'll feel better that you accomplished something beneficial. If you're not a capable person then you'll be grinding away at a crappy job anyway. If you read your own post from an objective stand point you can see yourself what you need to do.Give yourself a kick in the ass, get focused and always be prudent with your investments.

      While I don't agree with Milich on certain things, this is one of the better posts I've seen in awhile. Great advice. Nicely done Milich.

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    • Anonymous

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      Email me at deuce3355@gmail.com with your phone number and we can talk…

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    • Anonymous

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      Just know it’s perfectly fine to be 23 and not know what the he’ll you’re doing with your life. He’ll, to be two credits shy of an AA degree and have 11 grand saved up, that’s pretty damn impressive. When I was 23 I didn’t know what the **CENSORED** I wanted to do with my life and I was married with a 2 yr old. I’m 35 now with 4.kids and am going on my fourth career. I’ve traveled(highly recommend) and experienced a lot an now I want to settle in for the long haul. Some ppl are just wired diff. Enjoy life, make some bad decisions and create some.memories cause in the bigger picture, your e a baby.lolP.s. whatever you do, just say no to marriage. At least until your 30+. It's so overrated

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    • Anonymous

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      If you're just a few credits shy of your AA then finish it up and get it over with. That'll give you some time to sort out your direction and you'll be doing something worthwhile. You may never need the AA but it very well could help in the future. If enrolling back into school means that you need to tighten your belt, then do it. Make a budget and stick to it. If you're a capable person you'll make it work and you'll feel better that you accomplished something beneficial. If you're not a capable person then you'll be grinding away at a crappy job anyway. If you read your own post from an objective stand point you can see yourself what you need to do.Give yourself a kick in the ass, get focused and always be prudent with your investments.

      well said

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    • dzejms

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      Vin is 50 and has no career or idea what to do, so listen to him. 

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    • Anonymous

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      Vin is 50 and has no career or idea what to do, so listen to him.

      The irony of that ^^ post by Java, a guy who is repeatedly banned from a free website and yet returns over and over and over again . . .  and when people point out that his name changes don't hide his conduct, he gets angry and post things like this . . lolkid, Java is a good example of where you do NOT want to be.  Follow Milich's advice, its good advice.

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    • brycen54

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      Looked to me like he was making a joke. You seem more like the angry one.

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    • Anonymous

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      Looked to me like he was making a joke. You seem more like the angry one.

      I am not angry, lol, and he wasn't making a joke . . . you'd have to look around the boards to figure that out

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    • Anonymous

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      I'm 23 years old and I work a dead end 3rd shift retail job that makes me want to hang myself. I've managed to save a little over 11 grand and I'm actively investing a majority of it in stocks/mutual funds.  I was in community  college for some time, but dropped out a few credit shy of a general Associates Degree.. school feels like a waste of time when you don't have a strong inclination of a career path. Anyone else just kind of miserably drifting?

      My recommendation would be get your AA and go to a four school, hopefully on a scholarship. At the same time, take advantage of interships to see what interests you. If school isn't your thing, do you know what interests you?

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    • Anonymous

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      You are only 23 years old.  Live and learn.  Sit down with a pad and write down jobs that you like and those you don’t.  Look at the list  and see what it takes to accomplish the jobs you are interested in.  Pursue them and in your pursuit you will identify things you are interested.  Also, once you have identified a path take your time and learn from your mistakes.  Do not be afraid to fail.  That is what makes life so amazing.  Each day you have another opportunity to learn something new.  Stay positive.  Do not let others define success for you.

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    • brycen54

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      “Do not let others define success for you.”The backbone of the advertising industry, and the heart of capitalism.It has been my experience that the most important thing in life after family is enjoying your job. Far more important than how much money you make. The trick is to make a living at something you like doing.

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    • Anonymous

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      It has been my experience that the most important thing in life after family is enjoying your job. Far more important than how much money you make. The trick is to make a living at something you like doing.

      More awesome advice

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    • Anonymous

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      Do what you love, the money will follow. * I agree entirely, but it doesn’t sound like the OP has discovered that. He may never, which is why I advised him to get something going now and  see if his passion would surface over time.

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    • vlagatta

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      He’s vanished.  Perhaps he has a job

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    • vlagatta

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      [kid, Java is a good example of where you do NOT want to be.  Follow Milich's advice, its good advice.

      This just gets better and better.  Now THAT guy is java?It's not me anymore?  not Milich anymore?Vin, I've seen people baker acted for less.

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    • Anonymous

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      [kid, Java is a good example of where you do NOT want to be.  Follow Milich's advice, its good advice.

      This just gets better and better.  Now THAT guy is java?It's not me anymore?  not Milich anymore?Vin, I've seen people baker acted for less.

      lol . . .  and yet here you are . . posting

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    • Anonymous

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      SBS is not Java.

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    • Anonymous

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      It’s hard to keep up with all his accounts. Lol.

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    • Anonymous

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      It's hard to keep up with all their accounts. Lol.

      fixed ;)

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    • brycen54

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      Pretty sure that everyone here besides you is Java.

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    • vlagatta

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      I like this place.  I think I’m going to stay.

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    • Anonymous

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      You’ll enjoy Java, dude is creative as hell. Watching him work his magic, getting other people all worked up. He plays them like a piano.

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    • vlagatta

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      I honestly don’t know who this java guy is.  I’ve even wondered if it was an ongoing joke and there is no guy named that.  feel free to message me.

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    • Anonymous

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      I was in a similar predicament when I was 16. All I knew was that I did not want to go back to school, but did not know what else I wanted so I joined the Army. There was family history there, Dad, Mum,  Grandad, Great Grandad etc so there was some reasoning.While I was in the Army I grew up,  learnt a lot about self discipline, motivation, skills and a received reasonable pay check for a single guy. I enjoyed doing some of the stuff I had to do and it gave me direction. When I left the Army I went back to school and the rest as they say, is history.

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    • Anonymous

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      I'm 23 years old and I work a dead end 3rd shift retail job that makes me want to hang myself. I've managed to save a little over 11 grand and I'm actively investing a majority of it in stocks/mutual funds.  I was in community  college for some time, but dropped out a few credit shy of a general Associates Degree.. school feels like a waste of time when you don't have a strong inclination of a career path. Anyone else just kind of miserably drifting?

      I am not much older than you, so I am not qualified to give advice to anyone.  But I think the best advice in this thread is pursue what you love. And if you don't know what that is, the military is a good option to buy some time. And after 3-4 years of that, you will have a better idea of what direction you want to go. And you will have earned benefits. Although that is not very enticing after the recent news about the VA.Sports is a good area, and it looks like you are a sports fan if your visiting this message board. Most of the pro leagues are rolling in cash so the pay is great. But its really hard to get your foot in the door, unless you are willing to start out as an unpaid intern. Former players get the first shot for any job opportunities that come up around the league. My dad played in the NFL and is a sports agent now, making big bucks. But even that profession could be in trouble going forward. The way the top picks in the draft are already slotted, who needs an agent?  A rookie player needs a financial adviser and money manager, more so than an agent.  So, agents in todays NFL are aware of that, and are concentrating more on those 2 areas.I am employed at a huge company that is a sub contractor for the NFL. Good pay, good benefits, good hours. But not the easiest job to get your foot in the door.  Unless you know somebody.Good luck to you and I hope you land somewhere that is satisfying to you, and you stay there, and climb the ladder for the next 30-40 years.

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    • Anonymous

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      I was at that exact same point. BUT I opened my own store and kept it going for 6 + years.

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    • Anonymous

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      My advice will be different. I’m not much older than you (33) but I’m old enough to have a different perspective than you, at least when I compare my perspective now to what it was in my early 20’s, night and day. My advice is to determine what’s important to you, separate your wants from your needs, and attempt to create a career around that in terms of the hours you’re looking to work and the pay you expect to receive. For example, is it important to you to own a big home, drive a new or newer car, and have the ability to consistently buy wants such as electronics, more clothes than you really need etc? Or, would you be content living in a smaller home, driving a reliable but older car, and investing your spare money into your retirement instead of spending it on material items? I'm single and I have no kids, but most of my friends are married with kids. I've known many of these guys my entire life and I've seen changes in them that aren't for the better. Some of them work jobs that require insane hours, they don't spend as much time with their kids as they would like, and because of their heavy schedules the time they do get to spend with their families they are almost too worn out to enjoy it. When you're young you think about money, especially in America. We're conditioned to go after status and money, we're conditioned to believe that trumps everything. When you go through school the emphasis is on your career and the pay you'll get from that career, it's not on the stress that will come from that, or the toll any specific career will have on your family. These kinds of things are good to think about BEFORE you settle on a career, not when you're 10 years in to it wondering what the hell you were thinking in choosing it to begin with. I read an article recently about a woman who worked for hospice, she was asked what regrets are most common among the patients she treats as they lay there on their deathbed. She listed several things, but one stood out to me most. She said many women under her care say this, but ALL men say it. They wish they didn't work as much as they did. She said EVERY SINGLE man says this on their death bed. That should really open your eyes. It reminds me of the saying "youth is wasted on the young". In the same sense, it's sad to say that many, or even most, people don't realize that the thing they strive for their entire life, status/money, doesn't even matter. It's not until it's too late, and you're laying there waiting to die, that you finally realize you never cared for those things to begin with. I look at it this way, there's the proverbial carrot on the end of a stick that everyone chases the moment they're old enough to know what "success" is in America. They think that if they can just get into that college they want to get in to, or get that promotion, get that raise, buy that house or that car, they will FINALLY be content. Wrong. I always point to the Walton (Wal-Mart) family. There are four or five of them I believe, and from what I've read they are each worth north of 25 billion dollars. I watched a documentary about Wal-Mart once, it showed some of the conditions their factory workers work in over seas. It talked about how Wal-Mart has small apartments (I saw them, you can call them closets) built into the factories so that workers can live and work right on site. The kicker is that even if the worker decides to live elsewhere, Wal-Mart deducts the rent payment from their check anyway. The Walton's have more money than they'll ever know what to do with and they still can't stop themselves from charging rent to people who have literally nothing. The point is, very few people ever get their hands on that carrot. Very few people ever become content with what they have and where they are in life. It's always "if only I had that", that's the thought that drives them. This is what happens when you make your entire life about things that don't matter. The moment you capture something, you immediately want more. It's no way to live. This is why Americans have so much debt, nobody ever learns.There's no shame in living in a smaller home or driving a used car. Determine what's important to you and go from there, I'm positive you will be far more happy living well within your means, spending more time with your family, and possibly retiring early because you didn't waste your money on crap that you'll ultimately never care about anyway, than you would with the alternative. You'll never find a more honest answer to what's important in life than from someone who is laying on their death bed, it would be wise for you and everyone else to pay attention to what some of these people say.

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    • vlagatta

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      Stop wasting font.  The OP never came back.  I think I see why he’s having so much trouble with life choices…he’s lazy.

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    • Anonymous

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      Stop wasting font.  The OP never came back.  I think I see why he's having so much trouble with life choices...he's lazy.

      Sorry guys. I work graveyard so I'm not very active on the internet. My life tends to be sleeping, family, and trying to get some sun lol. I sincerely appreciate all the advice. I've signed up for classes next semester at the local community college to finish my general AA (still feel this is useless and a waste of money). I've applied to several internships ranging from the Bucs training camp intern to a startup brewing company. I also was studying ASVAB for a time, but was told by my brother-in-law (navy seal) that they wouldn't take me because I have a medical history of depression and anxiety.Escobar06: I agree with not striving just for wealth and materialism. I'm just striving to be able to live comfortably without worrying about bills and loans lol. The Anti-Java: I love football and brewing. Applied to Bucs internship and got this e-mail "Dear Applicant,Thank you for applying for the 2014 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Training Camp Assistant position. We appreciate your interest in our organization.Although we were impressed with your qualifications, we have decided not to move your application forward. However, we greatly appreciate your interest in working with us and we wish you the best in your future job search.Sincerely,The Tampa Bay Buccaneers"I think I'm going to try and form some kind of business now that I have 12K and a decent credit score. Anything to quit working retail lol

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    • Anonymous

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      The Anti-Java: I love football and brewing. Applied to Bucs internship and got this e-mail "Dear Applicant,Thank you for applying for the 2014 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Training Camp Assistant position. We appreciate your interest in our organization.Although we were impressed with your qualifications, we have decided not to move your application forward. However, we greatly appreciate your interest in working with us and we wish you the best in your future job search.Sincerely,The Tampa Bay Buccaneers"

      Interesting.  But at least you gave it a shot. That is more than a lot of people would do.

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    • Anonymous

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      Though I almost skipped by this thread, I found it to be a good read, minus the Java stuff.  You really did get some great advice from a few posters.  Escobar’s post was a bit of a surprise.  If you don’t think about those things up front, you’ll be much more prone to learning the hard way, which is often very avoidable.  I’ll add this:  1)  Finish the degree despite how you feel about it.  It will matter in terms of opportunity, and opportunity is really all we can ask for.  If nothing else, the degree will show that you have it in you to finish something, and that’s very significant.  2)  The fact that you’ve saved as you have is something to be proud of and is key to financial independence.  Look at a chart showing how your money can grow with compounded interest.  Getting started early is huge.  You’re also young enough to take financial risks, but try to make sure risks are well calculated, that there is a good market for what you’re offering and that you’re willing to make the sacrifices necessary to get the business going and maintain it.

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    • Anonymous

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      I had a lot of fun when I was 23 but even still I didn’t appreciate being THAT young enough.There is a lot of good advice within this thread.  Find something you love to do and do that.  Good luck and enjoy the discovery!

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    • Anonymous

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      Just do what Lord Beavis does. Get an entry level job cleaning off tables at McDonald’s and then tell the government you deserve to be as paid as much as a doctor does.

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