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    • Runole

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      Take a break from OCD.

      Impeccable vocals and instruments. Foxes and Fossils.
      They have a ton of videos .

      beach boys? csny? Live or studio etc etc NO PROBLEM!

    • Runole

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      How about CSNY?

    • TheChronicHotAir

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      …you “may” be interrupting
      LoserfgtDem Takes
      Part 73,153

      .

    • Donkey_Hunter

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      …you “may” be interrupting
      LoserfgtDem Takes
      Part 73,153

      .

      KKKron still crying.

      Those QPublican tears smell like loser.

    • Donkey_Hunter

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      That band has good range and harmony.

      They do their genres pretty well.

    • Runole

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      How about a live cover of the BEATLES ” Day in the life” without the girls?

    • FireLicht2020

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      I’m not trying to throw shade, but what is with boomers and liking cover bands?

      Not that they aren’t talented, but cover bands are nice for events… but generally pretty lame. A few good ones out there… and playing some covers is great if you do it differently or unique.

      But being a cover band for one band I just find to be lame (I see this band isn’t that but all the same)… like the band at my wedding was great, they did some great covers…

      But outside of that, or a beer garden, or whatever… I’m pretty meh on cover bands.

      Would rather see some original music with a couple covers sprinkled in…

      The band does sound solid tho

    • Runole

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      False premise there Licht. Not a fan of cover bands but when one is so special they have over 50 million views they are worth noting. When their covers are better than the original they deserve praise.

      How about this classic from the mid 50’s with the oldest sister (Rachel)sitting in?

    • FireLicht2020

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      It’s good, crisp… they are talented cover artists

      But it’s the exact same as the original so it doesn’t do much for me.

      The best covers are from bands that already have their own style, and apply that style to the cover.

      Obviously this is all just opinion, and I’m not trying to hate on this band…

      Also keep in mind the skill in the studio engineer mixing/mastering. I’m learning how to do much of that and it is crazy hard

    • Donkey_Hunter

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      Also keep in mind the skill in the studio engineer mixing/mastering. I’m learning how to do much of that and it is crazy hard

      It’s way more difficult than one would think.

      I’ve recorded a number of Def Leppard, Motley, and EVH guitar tracks.

      Recorded the rhythm and leads, with a good friend laying down bass.

      Only imported vocals and drums.

      Took us days just using ProLogic and that’s not factoring in the time spent using Final Cut, since we visually recorded it as well.

      The professionals are artists themselves.

    • Runole

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      Also keep in mind the skill in the studio engineer mixing/mastering. I’m learning how to do much of that and it is crazy hard

      It’s way more difficult than one would think.

      I’ve recorded a number of Def Leppard, Motley, and EVH guitar tracks.

      Recorded the rhythm and leads, with a good friend laying down bass.

      Only imported vocals and drums.

      Took us days just using ProLogic and that’s not factoring in the time spent using Final Cut, since we visually recorded it as well.

      The professionals are artists themselves.

      Correct Both recording in and out of the studio are superb as is the guy that takes care the video. They have requests from all over the world to perform and have escaped
      the corporate leeches and grifters of the industry. Oh the founder Tim does have original music which can be found at their site.

      How about a live rendition of newer stuff…

    • FireLicht2020

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      I’m using Reaper. Learning about all sorts of important techniques that I just never knew existed.

      I have kids so I plug direct in, and I use ezdrummer to make my drum track.

      It’s a lot of a fun but it is absolutely maddening, trail and error, and steep learning curve.

      I think I have a good sound but then I listen to Zepplin IV or Nirvana Nermind and the contrast is crazy.

      Obviously having expensive instruments, mics, and equipment helps but the mixing/mastering is an art form for sure!

      I saw a great analogy that the artist is like a RB, and the studio engineer is like the offensive line. Thought that was great

    • Donkey_Hunter

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      Correct Both recording in and out of the studio are superb as is the guy that takes care the video.

      Absolutely.

      I saw a great analogy that the artist is like a RB, and the studio engineer is like the offensive line. Thought that was great

      Great comparison.

      And, yes, having expensive equipment helps.

      Personally, when recording, I mainly run everything through a Line 6 Helix direct into a MacBook Pro (non-recording, I’ll run the Helix through QSC monitor).

      I think ProLogic/Final Cut are worth every dollar and not super expensive by any means. The Helix wasn’t cheap, but it’s allowed me to sell off my pedals and amps.

      I know the traditionalist would slam me for not having any authenticity, but my setup is more practical.

      Honestly, the bulk of my money is in my guitars. And, the bulk of that is really on two.

      And, that’s both of my Jackson PC1’s. I have one set to standard tuning and the other a half-step down.

      Greatest guitar I’ve ever played. I’m actually selling everything else with the exception of a Les Paul I’m keeping, because I literally don’t touch anything else.

      Hoping to get one of them signed by the man himself!

    • FireLicht2020

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      I use virtual amps and virtual pedals direct in recording because I do it at night when the kids are asleep. The sound is rad… you can imitate almost anything virtually these days. I’m investing in a ton of plugins and loving it… I used to be a purest, and now I’m a pragmatist.

      I still use my boss metalzone pedal and my RAT for some crunch before it hits my interface.

      Guitar wise I’m using a 70s telecaster that I love… one humbuck and one single coil give me that blended sound I love.

      My first ever guitar from 25 years ago was Les Paul Epiphone. Still have it and I’m going to give it to one of my kids.

      Also playing a Heritage from the 60s, ESP LTD with a Floyd rose tree tuned down a whole step (super crunchy metal riffs for long sustain chugging – Metallica). My dad gave me his Yamaha AE1200S, this electric/acoustic monste. Got a Fender Jazzmaster bass, and then a bunch of acoustic guitars… I mainly play my Taylor.

      I think I have 14 guitars in all plus a uke, mandolin…

      Thinking of consolidating into a Les Paul but I can’t stand the thought of trading in guitars and losing value.

      Lastly, I invested in Shur SM7B for vox and acoustic mic production and the difference is incredible. Treated my walls with acoustic foam… and I almost got divorced for spending all that money (kidding)

    • Runole

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      “I’m not trying to throw shade, but what is with boomers and liking cover bands?”

      I believe the appeal is due to anyone raised in the era of R&R 1954- 1990 appreciates the quality of both the vocals and music created. It is very refreshing to see those of GEN Z keeping it alive and still relevant. This is not to say good music hasn’t been produced 1990-2021 but on top 100 airwaves it is rare. Far too much simplistic crap void of melody, harmony, and virtuosity.

    • FireLicht2020

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      New music is shit and has been for almost a decade. A few diamonds in the rough but rock is mostly dead.

      The best eras of music (imo obviously)
      60s
      90s
      70s
      50s
      2000s
      80s
      2010s
      2020s

      Obviously DH and I don’t see eye to eye on 80s music. I like some bands: Cars, G&R, Metallica, Talking Heads… others that are escaping me… but I can’t get into glam/hair metal

    • Donkey_Hunter

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      but I can’t get into glam/hair metal

      That’s because you suck.

      (I kid, I kid)

    • Kermit56

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      Far too much simplistic crap void of melody, harmony, and virtuosity.

      And instruments :)

    • Runole

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      Far too much simplistic crap void of melody, harmony, and virtuosity.

      And instruments :)

      That was what I was referring to with virtuosity. Should have included excellent audio and videography both live and in the studio. Only criticism is the blasé crowd response. JMO but they have to be told what is good or bad. They lack discernment for musical talent. I can remember going to a concert at the old Tampa stadium where ZZTop was one of the opening acts. Crowd was indifferent to the performance. I was shocked. Of course they might have been too stoned to notice. lol

    • Runole

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      New music is shit and has been for almost a decade. A few diamonds in the rough but rock is mostly dead.

      The best eras of music (imo obviously)
      60s
      90s
      70s
      50s
      2000s
      80s
      2010s
      2020s

      Obviously DH and I don’t see eye to eye on 80s music. I like some bands: Cars, G&R, Metallica, Talking Heads… others that are escaping me… but I can’t get into glam/hair metal

      My choices would have been 60’s 70’s and 80’S excluding the Glam ones. Also, appreciate the doo wop era late 50’s EARLY R&R etc. The 90’s belonged to women vocalists IMO. Classic rock peaked in the 70’s

    • FireLicht2020

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      Fucking love 90s but 60s are the best… can’t argue with that.

      50s have some good stuff

      I also enjoy old school country/blues/folk from Denver to Dylan to Cline to Elvis to Prine to Dement to Cash

    • Runole

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      Fucking love 90s but 60s are the best… can’t argue with that.

      50s have some good stuff

      I also enjoy old school country/blues/folk from Denver to Dylan to Cline to Elvis to Prine to Dement to Cash

      Speaking of the 90’s this device gets my vote for the best use of keyboard arpeggiator
      in a hit song

    • Donkey_Hunter

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      Bring the hate for the glam rock!!!

      I love the haters!!!

      Lol.

    • Runole

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      Bring the hate for the glam rock!!!

      I love the haters!!!

      Lol.

      Well I do like Billy Idol does that count?

    • Donkey_Hunter

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      Personally, I wouldn’t put him in that category.

      But, I definitely like him.

    • Runole

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      Personally, I wouldn’t put him in that category.

      But, I definitely like him.

      Tend to agree. Wonder if Grunge was a response to Glam rock?

    • Donkey_Hunter

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      Wonder if Grunge was a response to Glam rock?

      It’s a plausible theory for sure.

      I mean, the timelines mesh perfectly.

    • Runole

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      Wonder if Grunge was a response to Glam rock?

      It’s a plausible theory for sure.

      I mean, the timelines mesh perfectly.

      Just like punk devolved from the brilliant classic rock of the seventies.
      Same with disco which emphasized dancing.

    • FireLicht2020

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      Grunge 100% ended glam rock…

      I really don’t “hate” the 80s… just a handful of bands:

      Poison
      White Snake
      Ratt
      Twisted Sister
      Motley Crew

      Those bands are just cringy to me, but I’d imagine some of the bands I like others would feel the same.

      But the glam crap, with caked on makeup and pyrotechnics are just awful to me sonically and visually.

      Plenty of 80s bands I like when I look at a list, so it’s really just that STYLE of music

    • Donkey_Hunter

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      Poison
      White Snake
      Ratt
      Twisted Sister
      Motley Crew

      Couple of incredible guitarists in that group.

      Mars, DeMartini, Crosby (RIP), Sykes.

      • FireLicht2020

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        Christina Aguilera is an incredible singer, but her music is trash.

        Def some good guitar players, but I just don’t care for that sound…

        Van Halen is another meh band for me with an incredible guitarist

    • Runole

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      Grunge 100% ended glam rock…

      I really don’t “hate” the 80s… just a handful of bands:

      Poison
      White Snake
      Ratt
      Twisted Sister
      Motley Crew

      Those bands are just cringy to me, but I’d imagine some of the bands I like others would feel the same.

      But the glam crap, with caked on makeup and pyrotechnics are just awful to me sonically and visually.

      Plenty of 80s bands I like when I look at a list, so it’s really just that STYLE of music

      agree One of the many reasons I never cared for KISS.

    • Runole

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      Speaking of the 60’s it appears GEN Z likes dancing “shuffle” to this old Elvis classic remix.

    • Donkey_Hunter

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      Van Halen is another meh band for me with an incredible guitarist

      I’ll give you credit I don’t even have a response to this blasphemy.

      • FireLicht2020

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        I recognize they have hits that aren’t my taste… and even a few classics like running with the devil, are hard not to love

        Just not my sound

    • Runole

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      I recognize they have hits that aren’t my taste… and even a few classics like running with the devil, are hard not to love

      Just not my sound

      Vocally Van Halen was weak. Obviously, Eddie was an excellent guitarist and combine that with DLR stage presence that sold the classic rock group. Not a big fan after all doing a “cover” the Kinks “You really got me” was their ticket to stardom. An argument could be made that it was better than the original due to EV’s guitar work.

      On the subject of covers being equal or better than the original..

    • Col. Klink

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      Grunge 100% ended glam rock…

      I really don’t “hate” the 80s… just a handful of bands:

      Poison
      White Snake
      Ratt
      Twisted Sister
      Motley Crew

      Those bands are just cringy to me, but I’d imagine some of the bands I like others would feel the same.

      But the glam crap, with caked on makeup and pyrotechnics are just awful to me sonically and visually.

      Plenty of 80s bands I like when I look at a list, so it’s really just that STYLE of music

      agree One of the many reasons I never cared for KISS.

      Yeah, I wondered if he had inadvertently left them off his hate list of the 80’s …. but I guess it was because they were probably more late 70’s but did spawn those 80’s abominations.

    • Runole

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      Grunge 100% ended glam rock…

      I really don’t “hate” the 80s… just a handful of bands:

      Poison
      White Snake
      Ratt
      Twisted Sister
      Motley Crew

      Those bands are just cringy to me, but I’d imagine some of the bands I like others would feel the same.

      But the glam crap, with caked on makeup and pyrotechnics are just awful to me sonically and visually.

      Plenty of 80s bands I like when I look at a list, so it’s really just that STYLE of music

      agree One of the many reasons I never cared for KISS.

      Yeah, I wondered if he had inadvertently left them off his hate list of the 80’s …. but I guess it was because they were probably more late 70’s but did spawn those 80’s abominations.

      The ultimate gimmick band of all time

    • Donkey_Hunter

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      While some were definitely “gimmicky”, there were some extremely talented guitarists in a few of those groups (as I mentioned).

      Agreed with @runole regarding VH vocal ineptitude, but that got much better with the Red Rocker.

    • Runole

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      While some were definitely “gimmicky”, there were some extremely talented guitarists in a few of those groups (as I mentioned).

      Agreed with @runole regarding VH vocal ineptitude, but that got much better with the Red Rocker.

      agree on both declarations

      Another contemporary last decade cover superbly done by F&F

    • FireLicht2020

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      I just didn’t think of Kiss… they suck, although I did love the movie “Detroit Rock City”

      I thought they started in the 70s so I lump them in there…

    • Shelby T Mitchell

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      The Beatles Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Heart Clubs Band

    • Runole

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      The Beatles Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Heart Clubs Band

      ???? What is your point? not following?

    • FireLicht2020

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      Are we just naming albums, haha…

      Uhhhh…

      Down on the Upside

    • Runole

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      Are we just naming albums, haha…

      Uhhhh…

      Down on the Upside

      Must have not followed the thread? Hmmm? In my opening title I did state “Cover”
      band! lol

    • Runole

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      Speaking of contemporary groups. One of the best “ORIGINAL” hard rock groups today IMO.

    • Runole

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      Time for another break from resident coves OCD’er

      These gals are real head bangers

      No Asian hate

    • Runole

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      FOXES AND FOSSILS DO MOTOWN

    • Runole

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      SOME MORE CSNY BY F+F?

    • Runole

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      Think I like this version better! From Ireland I believe

      Center girl: Pain in the eyes.
      Right girl: Happiness in the eyes.
      Left girl: Understanding in the eyes. (from the comment section I agree!)

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