Bruce Arian's Arizona draft History- Not Great!

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    LIBucsFan93
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    Bruce Arians’ First Round Picks In Arizona

    I came across this article at JoeBucsFan and thought it worthy of sharing. Now there is a huge difference picking at #5 and picking in the 20’s in the first round. I don’t think there is a issue with the talent at the top end of this draft as there are at least 8-9 quality players that could help the Bucs. 3-4 of those players will be gone by #5 if AZ selects a QB #1 overall.

    So how did Arians and friends perform with first-round picks? It’s not pretty. Here’s a summary:

    2013 Jonathan Cooper, No. 7 overall, Guard – BUST
    2014 Deone Bucannon, No. 27 overall, Safety/Linebacker – Didn’t perform to draft level, now with Bucs.
    2015 D.J. Humphries, No. 24 overall, Left Tackle – Has played in just 27 games through four seasons.
    2016 Robert Nkemdiche, No. 29, Defensive Tackle – After two rough seasons, he finally was having a breakout season last year but blew his knee out in November.
    2017 Haason Reddick, No. 13 overall, Linebacker – Lost starting job to begin the 2018 season, came on strong in second half of the year. A work in progress.

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    #1175824
    Anonymous
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    Negative posts about Savior Arians won’t be well appreciated  by PR tribe……

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    #1175827
    JC5100
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    If you watch the Amazon show about the Cardinals, they lucked into get David Johnson. They were all set to draft Ameer Abdullah at #55, were on the phone with him. Detroit took him at pick #54. So they took Johnson in the 3rd round.

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    #1175832
    Ja’crispy
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    You know what is good about Arian’s drafting? 3 years in a row he was picking in the 20’s. 27, 24, and 29.  Wouldnt that be nice?

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    #1175834
    Havok904
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    So comparatively speaking, how this match up with the rest of the league?

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    #1175835
    Ramonb
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    I like him as a coach….not so much his personnel decisions.

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    #1175837
    BucFanFromATL
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    Uh. This doesn’t paint the full picture. It’s just a case study on “first round selections” and doesn’t say anything about his ability to build a team, deconstruct a roster and rebuild it, and turn a team into a contender.

    What you can deduce from the draft positioning is Arians was successful for a majority of the seasons he was there.

    Also it doesn’t speak to the quality talent he was able to find in the later rounds. For example the 2013 draft he was able to Kevin Minter in the 2nd (who he was able to develop into a starting level LB after a couple years), Tyrann Mathieu in the 3rd, Andre Ellington in the 6th…

    Plus that was just the draft… The Cardinals keep a detailed breakdown of their franchise transactions by year and date here:

    https://www.azcardinals.com/team/transactions/2013

    If you go back to January 17 2013 when they hired Bruce and look at how he came in, evaluated the roster, and scrapped it down… then started building it up (arguably from scratch) you start to see what he and his team of coaches can do when it comes to evaluation, coaching, training, and building a team/roster.

    They immediately turned that dumpster fire around.

    The article in the OP is a good case study piece on the hit or miss nature of the draft and college prospects/projecting into the NFL level… but is not an indictment on his “personnel decisions”

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    #1175839
    Havok904
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    ^^^
    Well put

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    #1175841
    Pennywise
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    Team was bad  but lets not forget they were in the superbowl 2008

    Airans has a true dumpster fire now,10 wins last 2 years ,have not seen playoffs in a long time

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    #1175842
    Anonymous
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    ruce Arian’s Arizona draft History- Not Great!

    thanks goodness for you guys you have Licht there to correct him when he’s off on his picks……

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    #1175849
    Havok904
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    Morgan
    LIBucsFan93 wrote:
    RUCE ARIAN’S ARIZONA DRAFT HISTORY- NOT GREAT!

    thanks goodness for you guys you have Licht there to correct him when he’s off on his picks
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    That’s it.

    I’m writing your folks to complain about their failure to use effective birth control .

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    #1175866
    tampaspicer
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    Morgan you are consistent. Like a fly that that won’t go away.

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    #1175869
    LIBucsFan93
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    o the downside to that it was his poor drafting that led the Cardinals to be picking 1st overall this year. #DoubleEdgedSword

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    #1175870
    LIBucsFan93
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    Very true but it was also his decisions that led the Cardinals to where they are today. Hoping he’s more of the former than the latter.

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    #1175877
    CollinP
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    ruce Arian’s Arizona draft History- Not Great!

    thanks goodness for you guys you have Licht there to correct him when he’s off on his picks……

    Can anyone decipher this for me?

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