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    • ISLAND BUCS

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      NHL players keep being tested for COVID-19, and they keep testing positive. This despite the fact the vast majority have been vaccinated and are asymptomatic.

      “So despite having 100% of NHL players covid vaccinated nearly 75% of all players tested positive this year already,” Clay tweeted. “This means mandatory vaccinations of players provided no benefit whatsoever since the players weren’t at risk from covid and they still got and spread it to others.”

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    • buccaneerNW

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      This means mandatory vaccinations of players provided no benefit whatsoever

      Incorrect. The vaccines are still protective from severe disease and death. Most Covid hospitalizations and deaths are occurring in unvaccinated people.

    • ISLAND BUCS

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      No doubt vaccines are quite helpful to prevent Covid, if you get it, from becoming more serious.

      The words you quoted are not my words but some guy in the NHL

      It seems his point is all NHL players had 2 shots plus booster and still 70% got covid.

      There was a time when we were told get 2 shots plus the booster and you wouldn’t
      get Covid and you wouldn’t give Covid to others.

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    • buccaneerNW

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      There was a time when we were told get 2 shots plus the booster and you wouldn’t
      get Covid and you wouldn’t give Covid to others.

      There was never 100% effectiveness expected. The clinical trials for the mRNA vaccines showed 95% protection from getting infected, which is amazing… but they did not know how durable that protection would be at the time, nor could they know what the future mutations look like. So, no credible expert on the matter said that the protection was perfect or enduring or that variants would not affect how much protection the vaccines offered. If you had that impression, it’s understandable, as that’s what we all were hoping for.

    • ISLAND BUCS

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      70% of the NHL players getting covid after 3 vaccines is not 95% effective.

      The tacit message was you get the 3 shots and your protected.

      Then there was a great deal of emphasis on wearing the mask.

      Now we know that the cloth mask is of little help.

      England will do away with all mask requirements next Thursday.

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    • Blayton Cigsby

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      MAN, THIS IS COVE gold

      The test of a vaccine”s EFFECTIVENESS is now HOCKEY . . INFECTIONS . . .- a very close contact, closed environment, winter sport . . . .during Omicron.

      and the best part is this embarrassing attempt to reconcile REALITY with the completely false notion posted here by many Trumpers that the “vaccine doesnt work” because it does not prevent ALL infections:

      The tacit message was you get the 3 shots and your protected.

      “TACIT”

      Island Buc — you have every reason to feel like a complete idiot for all your many stupid posts here on COVID, but maybe you should NOT so readily share your massive insecurity about that on the Cove? People will think you’re Runole. Or Buggsy. “-)

      The fascinating human nature lesson from COVID, at least here on the Cove, is that the posters who were MOST WRONG about Covid . . are STILL today the LOUDEST Covid disinformation voices on the Cove, some 850K deaths later.

      Kermit still posts the death certificate conspiracy theory and claims that CV19 has developed into the “flu” (winter virus). Buggsy backs him up on the death certificate thing with a story about a motorcycle death. Every Trumper here routinely compares FL to New York lol. Multiple Trumpers — including ANTI-VAXXERS – have shpwn in their posts they havent gotr a freaking clue about how ALL vaccines work, so much so that Kermit and Spartan just posted/commented on an article about HEMP with the scientist undercutting the entire notion that a vaccines doesnt work if it does not prevent infections (and NEITHER UNDERSTOOD IT OR ACKNOWLEDGED IT)

      It’s s like watching a bunch of football guys shout about how the Bucs should play another team, then watching the BUCS actually FOLLOW that advice and LOSE 85-0 . . . only to have all those same people then blame the ref, the ball, injuries, scoreboard etc.

      YOU GUYS WERE WRONG.

      YOURE STILL WRONG

      EVERYTIME YOU POST THOUGHTLESS SHIT LIKE THIS . . . . .

      YOU JUST REMIND EVERYONE

      Now, where’s my HYDRO?

    • Blayton Cigsby

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      Hemp article

      But, the funniest thing is that the study actually hits the ” COVID vaccine doesn’t work because no immunity” crowd by pointing out the medical process that makes that CV19 vaccine argument non-sensical:

      ““Any part of the infection and replication cycle is a potential target for antiviral intervention, and the connection of the spike protein’s receptor binding domain to the human cell surface receptor ACE2 is a critical step in that cycle,” he said. “That means cell entry inhibitors, like the acids from hemp, could be used to prevent SARS-CoV-2 infection and also to shorten infections by preventing virus particles from infecting human cells.”

      ““These compounds can be taken orally and have a long history of safe use in humans,” van Breemen said. “They have the potential to prevent as well as treat infection by SARS-CoV-2. CBDA and CBGA are produced by the hemp plant as precursors to CBD and CBG, which are familiar to many consumers. However, they are different from the acids and are not contained in hemp products.”

    • Blayton Cigsby

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      The fascinating human nature lesson from COVID, at least here on the Cove, is that the posters who were MOST WRONG about Covid . . are STILL today the LOUDEST Covid disinformation voices on the Cove, some 850K deaths later.

      Right on CUE

      Look at that, you’ve learned a few things in this thread. This has been good for you, comrade. You should keep coming back for more.

      Buggsy holding COVID Disinformation Classes

    • FireLicht2020

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      Cmon IB… stop being obtuse

      The vaccines were created 3 or 4 mutations ago.

      One of the MAIN REASONS there was a push to get everyone vaccinated quickly was because of the fear that mutations would render the vaccine less effective, both in terms of severity and catching it.

      For anti-vaxxers it will always come to a self-fulfilling prophecy full of anecdotal evidence that somehow trumps large number data.

      It’s super frustrating but at this point there is NOTHING you can do to get the last 30% vaccinated so I say fuck it.

      This is a fool’s errand… once omincron has peaked I’d say March first go completely back to normal.

      The war cannot be won with the conspiracy theory crowd or the “storm is coming crowd” or the “mah liberty crowd”…

      It is what it is

    • Blayton Cigsby

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      Cmon IB… stop being obtuse

      The vaccines were created 3 or 4 mutations ago.

      One of the MAIN REASONS there was a push to get everyone vaccinated quickly was because of the fear that mutations would render the vaccine less effective, both in terms of severity and catching it.

      For anti-vaxxers it will always come to a self-fulfilling prophecy full of anecdotal evidence that somehow trumps large number data.

      It’s super frustrating but at this point there is NOTHING you can do to get the last 30% vaccinated so I say fuck it.

      This is a fool’s errand… once omincron has peaked I’d say March first go completely back to normal.

      The war cannot be won with the conspiracy theory crowd or the “storm is coming crowd” or the “mah liberty crowd”…

      It is what it is

      actually, I think there is hope that Biden can convince Spartan to vaccinate. . just by “talking nice” . . maybe JBear can help.

    • FireLicht2020

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      Can’t play nice. Can’t play hard. Can’t do anything.

      Won’t do it for themselves

      Won’t do it for others

      Won’t do it for their community

      Won’t do it for their country

      To most, it is the act of defiance that gives the greatest joy…

    • buccaneerNW

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      To most, it is the act of defiance that gives the greatest joy…

      Willing to forgo vaccines to own the libz.
      #freedumb

    • Blayton Cigsby

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      Can’t play nice. Can’t play hard. Can’t do anything.

      Won’t do it for themselves

      Won’t do it for others

      Won’t do it for their community

      Won’t do it for their country

      To most, it is the act of defiance that gives the greatest joy…

      Owning the libs by dying

      Modern day natural selection.

      Terrible

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